You could season a steak with Magic talking about that ROY vote with Bird.

[Kblaze8855]

Pure salt.


https://youtu.be/MJ2upKZWQQU


63-3 is pretty wild though.


On a mostly unrelated note….

I suspect the following posters make a shitty steak:



Tontoz. Strikes me as a well done type.
3ball(though he thinks he makes a great one)
Full court
Rrr3(would also believe his steak is amazing)


But I believe the following posters may make a good one


Highway
Fultz/starface/arakszolie/whatever it is right now. I think he’d be one of those “A good steak doesn’t need much” types who would buy good meat and probably not do much to improve or hurt it which limits how bad it could possibly be.



I have no evidence of course I just….feel like that’s how it would go. Has nothing to do with my opinion of them as people or posters. I just feel like I’d get a good steak from those two and a bad one from the others. Can’t really explain it.

I bet RMWG does a medium well trending towards well with some kinda steak sauce slathered on it to cover the fact it wasn’t that seasoned also. Type to throw a thick ass choice strip steak on a charcoal grill till it’s perfect….but not account for carryover and serve it somewhat overcooked with the aforementioned sauce. Probably A1. Not even 57.

Id eat it and be grateful. I’d eat all the steaks prepared by the above. I’d just be internally critical of most.

[1987_Lakers]

Tontoz. Strikes me as a well done type.
3ball(though he thinks he makes a great one)
Full court
Rrr3(would also believe his steak is amazing)

Dude would confuse salt with sugar on his steak and be adamant that it's really salt.

[tontoz]

The Celtics went from 29 wins to 61 in bird's rookie year. Bird wasn't the only reason for that but he got the bulk of the credit.

The Lakers won 47 games the year before drafting Magic.

[Kblaze8855]

You’re only gonna get so much credit for a team with the mvp being good. I’m sure somewhere deep down Magic knows that. It was a close vote between Kareem, Doc, and Bird but still. You aren’t getting the credit for a team that has one of those guys on it.

[ArbitraryWater]

Dude would confuse salt with sugar on his steak and be adamant that it's really salt.


:roll::roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

the cringiest salt thrower

https://brobible.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/messi-giving-shade-to-salt-bae-world-cup-final.jpg

https://www.narcity.com/media-library/salt-bae-at-the-world-cup-with-argentina-s-angel-di-maria-middle-salt-bae-with-lisandro-martinez-right-salt-bae-with-cristia.jpg?id=32363390&width=1245&height=700&coordinates=0%2C0%2C6%2C0

https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/5ba60cbd6afd8875b3cb7a12b8b87c67

https://e3.365dm.com/22/12/2048x1152/skynews-salt-bae-world-cup_6004184.jpg

https://static.mothership.sg/1/2022/12/fifa-investigating-salt-bae.jpg

[ArbitraryWater]

https://prosoccerwire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/107/2022/12/Screen-Shot-2022-12-20-at-1.46.59-PM.png?w=1000&h=600&crop=1

[Real Men Wear Green]

I live in Boston. Almost never smoke anything in the winter. I cook the steak for a half hour in the oven at 250 and then flash fry it on the stove. I do use sauces but if you season with grain spices and then fry you get a lot of burnt crispy that isn't pleasant.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Also you don't season red meat with salt, period. That makes the meat tough.

[RRR3]

I don’t eat meat kblaze. But when I did I was never a steak guy anyways. More of a burger guy.

[Kblaze8855]

So unseasoned and slathered in sauce for rmwg and rrr3 is a vegetarian who favored burgers before conversation. I’m 2-0 it looks like.

Not that a baked then reverse seared steak can’t be good but that…plus being anti salt and seasoning doesn’t give me high hopes.

And being a burger guy over steak is just…unsettling. Nothing wrong with a burger but…preferred over steak?

Im not ready to say we need a live tail to keep up with your actions but maybe a tracking device would be appropriate. Just to have a good idea where you are at any given moment.

[Real Men Wear Green]

It isn't unseasoned. Marinate it in the sauces. But i don't fry it with a ton of spices that's how you get burnt crumbly crap all over it.

[1987_Lakers]

How can you guys not season a steak with some salt at least?

Every perfect steak requires it IMO.

[Kblaze8855]

There’s something unsettling about marinating, and then baking a steak to me, but maybe there wouldn’t be had I spent my prime cooking years in Chicago instead of my childhood. A marinated steak needs to go on the grill. I’m with you in that frying it will create problems with both a sugary marinade or a lot of spices but an indirect grilling eliminates both of those problems.

[1987_Lakers]

Olive oil
Salt
Black pepper

Baste with butter while cooking steak.

Simple.

[Real Men Wear Green]

How can you guys not season a steak with some salt at least?

Every perfect steak requires it IMO.

Salt toughens the meat. I guess it's not as much of an issue if you like your meat rare but being a well done guy that's important for me. There are other ways to season food beyond salt.

[Real Men Wear Green]

There’s something unsettling about marinating, and then baking a steak to me, but maybe there wouldn’t be had I spent my prime cooking years in Chicago instead of my childhood. A marinated steak needs to go on the grill. I’m with you in that frying it will create problems with both a sugary marinade or a lot of spices but an indirect grilling eliminates both of those problems.

The grill is the best way but it's 18 degrees outside right now.

[1987_Lakers]

Salt toughens the meat. I guess it's not as much of an issue if you like your meat rare but being a well done guy that's important for me. There are other ways to season food beyond salt.

Well done?

I'm out of here. :lol

[hateraid]

I marinate it in beer overnight. Then pan cook in butter. Cooked medium rare. The last 2 flips is where I season with Montreal steak spice.

[hateraid]

There’s something unsettling about marinating, and then baking a steak to me, but maybe there wouldn’t be had I spent my prime cooking years in Chicago instead of my childhood. A marinated steak needs to go on the grill. I’m with you in that frying it will create problems with both a sugary marinade or a lot of spices but an indirect grilling eliminates both of those problems.

Marinate in beer overnight. It makes the meat buttery soft

[hateraid]

Dude would confuse salt with sugar on his steak and be adamant that it's really salt.

Lol. He'd ook it over and over again regardless of how burnt it is and insist it's rare

[Kblaze8855]

See? I know when somebody’s about to hand me a brown ass steak.

And I hear you on the 18. It’s 56 here and I’m not happy about it. We routinely just get up and escape to Florida or Texas for no reason but seeing a cold front coming. I’m not doing shit outside at 18.

That doesn’t excuse you bringing me a well-done steak, but I will be polite and eat it as I am from a culture led by grandmas who cooked everything well done because they’re old enough to remember when it wasn’t safe not to. So I’m used to it as I’m sure you are. But I don’t do it to others without an explicit request.

[1987_Lakers]

I marinate it in beer overnight. Then pan cook in butter. Cooked medium rare. The last 2 flips is where I season with Montreal steak spice.

https://www.amazon.com/Bolners-Fiesta-Gourmet-Seasoning-20-Ounce/dp/B004H4R0LW/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=bolner%27s+fiesta&qid=1677354076&sr=8-3

I never tried their steak seasoning, but their french fry seasoning was on point.

[Kblaze8855]

I marinate it in beer overnight. Then pan cook in butter. Cooked medium rare. The last 2 flips is where I season with Montreal steak spice.


yeah, you can fry a steak on a really high temperature with either nothing or just a bit of salt because salt doesn’t burn and then add whatever seasoning you want for the last few seconds with a couple flips, but I chose not to call attention to it, if he was just going to rep unseasoned steak. In the end I won’t judge a man for what he likes. I will judge one for assuming his guests will without being asked though.

[tontoz]

Finally watched the vid. Magic was right they couldn't have scripted it any better, Magic to the Lakers and Bird to the Celtics the same year.

I seriously doubt he was really that upset about the ROY vote after winning a ring and FMVP.

[Kblaze8855]

Finally watched the vid. Magic was right they couldn't have scripted it any better, Magic to the Lakers and Bird to the Celtics the same year.

I seriously doubt he was really that upset about the ROY vote after winning a ring and FMVP.


Im pretty sure he was. He wouldn’t remember the vote tally 40 years later if he didn’t care.

Ive heard him mention other times that he was really bothered when the vote came out. How he won the title in college then in the nba and still didn’t get the love Larry did. I don’t even know when the vote was done so I assume the voters couldn’t take the playoffs into account I’m just talking about what I’ve heard him say. He wasn’t winning that anyway. He just wasn’t considered as good as Larry. You look at old articles people legit had Larry as the GOAT in the early 80s. Jerry Sloan thought so in the 81 playoffs before Larry even made a finals.

[Real Men Wear Green]

See? I know when somebody’s about to hand me a brown ass steak.

And I hear you on the 18. It’s 56 here and I’m not happy about it. We routinely just get up and escape to Florida or Texas for no reason but seeing a cold front coming. I’m not doing shit outside at 18.

That doesn’t excuse you bringing me a well-done steak, but I will be polite and eat it as I am from a culture lead by grandmas who cooked everything will done because they’re old enough to remember when it wasn’t safe not to. So I’m used to it as I’m sure you are. But I don’t do it to others without an explicit request.

I could give you a rate syeak if that's what you want. Heck it doesn't even need to be cooked I suppose. We can just give you a pineapple and a cow.

[hateraid]

https://www.amazon.com/Bolners-Fiesta-Gourmet-Seasoning-20-Ounce/dp/B004H4R0LW/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=bolner%27s+fiesta&qid=1677354076&sr=8-3

I never tried their steak seasoning, but their french fry seasoning was on point.

I love it. It's got a good mix of spice and smoke. I haven't heard of the one you linked. I could give it a go

[Kblaze8855]

Like I said I’d take whatever I’m given. I’m a dick in friendly ways to people I hope would know I don’t mean I’m but I’m not disrespecting free food from my host. Especially not for giving me a fully cooked steak which a huge percentage of people in the world want.

If I give someone a medium steak there’s a good chance they will be downright disgusted and not eat it. A well done steak to someone who would want it medium or medium rare isn’t gonna just…ruin their meal. For the most part.

Ive eaten many well done steaks in life. My grandma cooked hers in an electric skillet with a drop of vinegar and water for what seemed like eternity then just put a little salt and Worcestershire and that’s what I thought steak was for a good 15-18 years.

Come up being fed by old black people you eat well done meat. So it’s cool.

Id just do it different if I cooked it for me. But well done or maybe medium well is probably safest for a big group of the kinda people I’d have a cookout for.

[mr4speed]

Im pretty sure he was. He wouldn’t remember the vote tally 40 years later if he didn’t care.

Ive heard him mention other times that he was really bothered when the vote came out. How he won the title in college then in the nba and still didn’t get the love Larry did. I don’t even know when the vote was done so I assume the voters couldn’t take the playoffs into account I’m just talking about what I’ve heard him say. He wasn’t winning that anyway. He just wasn’t considered as good as Larry. You look at old articles people legit had Larry as the GOAT in the early 80s. Jerry Sloan thought so in the 81 playoffs before Larry even made a finals.

I could be wrong but I thought the ROY voting results came out 1 or 2 days before the 6th game of the 1980 Finals and that result was one of the motivating factors that led Magic to show everyone that he could score more if needed.

[Pointguard]

Im pretty sure he was. He wouldn’t remember the vote tally 40 years later if he didn’t care.

Ive heard him mention other times that he was really bothered when the vote came out. How he won the title in college then in the nba and still didn’t get the love Larry did. I don’t even know when the vote was done so I assume the voters couldn’t take the playoffs into account I’m just talking about what I’ve heard him say. He wasn’t winning that anyway. He just wasn’t considered as good as Larry. You look at old articles people legit had Larry as the GOAT in the early 80s. Jerry Sloan thought so in the 81 playoffs before Larry even made a finals.

Magic did say that at first: And why not? He had a dream first year while playing out of position. Bird was his nemisis. Magic was never a salty guy as Kareem, Karl Malone and Isiah gave him GREAT reason to be salty and he spared them. If anything he big upped Bird a bit too much: There is no shortage of that in books, articles, specials and interviews. Magic had won three finals MVP titles before Bird (no MVPs) had a a very solid post season - Magic finished a finals with one of the best finals games ever and won the college title against Bird. It wouldn't fly today that Bird would be called better, much less legit GOAT. They wanted to annoint Bird that even before his first very good post season run. And its hard to say that his '84 run made up all that ground mentioned above to Magic. Bird's first 4 years he barely averaged 20ppg on bad shooting percentage in the playoffs. Yeah, and that's correct.

[Kblaze8855]

. It wouldn't fly today that Bird would be called better, much less legit GOAT.


It probably wouldn’t. The people 40 years ago were much less casual. The game was less popular. The fans were more likely to be hardcore fans. The media wasn’t there to yell on tv. The coaches making those observations were just talking about basketball not narratives and legacy. I’d be surprised if Jerry Sloan even knew his numbers when he said:



''I don't think I've ever seen a better player in this league,'' Chicago Coach Jerry Sloan said. ''He puts all of the pressure on a team and does so many things.''


And that was before he’d even played a finals game.

Players today aren’t judged by basketball. They’re judged by numbers and stories.

[Pointguard]

It probably wouldn’t. The people 40 years ago were much less casual. The game was less popular. The fans were more likely to be hardcore fans. The media wasn’t there to yell on tv. The coaches making those observations were just talking about basketball not narratives and legacy. I’d be surprised if Jerry Sloan even knew his numbers when he said:

And that was before he’d even played a finals game.

Players today aren’t judged by basketball. They’re judged by numbers and stories.

But it took Bird a minute to get Playoff ball. He didn't have Magic's superior judgement with the rock and know how in the playoffs. 4 years, 44 games deep, in the playoffs where Bird had other players definitely looking better than him and he was 23 years old when he played his first playoff game. Magic didn't have great numbers either so I feel what you are saying to a point. Bird and Magic were only one basket separated in ppg. in the playoffs the first 4 years. Magic was definitively that one player who you couldn't say Bird was just smarter than or had intangibles that were obviously better. It was three MVPs to none.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Also you don't season red meat with salt, period. That makes the meat tough.

:facepalm