+++Players Drafted 2003 & After Peak NBA Draft+++

[1987_Lakers]

1st round

1. 1987_Lakers
2. SaltyMeatballs
3. Post
4. SouBeachTalents
5. Dankok
6. AlternativeAcc.
7. ArbitraryWater

2nd Round
8. ArbitraryWater
9. AlternativeAcc.
10. Dankok
11. SouBeachTalents
12. Post
13. SaltyMeatballs
14. 1987_Lakers

Let's get it rolling. Will be making my pick soon.

[1987_Lakers]

LeBron James

[AlternativeAcc.]

LeBron James

You bastard!

[Wally450]

LeBron James

Shut it down. It’s over.

[SouBeachTalents]

Shut it down. It’s over.
You want in? We need one more player.

[SaltyMeatballs]

With LeBron off the board, give me Steph Curry

[post]

boy team nikola jokic

https://i.ibb.co/RP3f0MS/E3k-Wv-G5-VUAY3-GDl-1.jpg

girl team elena delle donne

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BrightSeparateBarbet-size_restricted.gif

[ArbitraryWater]

Wally, participate you nugget

[SouBeachTalents]

Giannis

[dankok8]

Durantula

[ArbitraryWater]

Can you pick someone whos peak years (2 minimum) are years apart? Not in succession? Or shoud it be (minimum) 2 years straight?

[ArbitraryWater]

If the player missed the postseason due to injury or was hurt in said peak year, do we account for that?

[AlternativeAcc.]

Can you pick someone whos peak years (2 minimum) are years apart? Not in succession? Or shoud it be (minimum) 2 years straight?

I said 2 years just to account for guys who may have an extreme outlier year. 2 years of peak play is just an arbitrary line in the sand to say they sustained it for a long enough time to judge them at that level. I think we all kinda know how good these guys are at their peaks so picking years isn't too necessary, but I'm open to whatever



I'll take Wade

[AlternativeAcc.]

If the player missed the postseason due to injury or was hurt in said peak year, do we account for that?

It assumes everyone is healthy and at their best. Don't worry about that

But injuries have affected guys ability to put together a sustained peak so keep that in mind

[ArbitraryWater]

Taking AD & Harden :rolleyes:

Tough not to take Luka, but peak Harden had a slighty better first step/burst and would be more adamant at throwing lobs to AD and making the PnR work.

[ArbitraryWater]

Embiid is as good as AD, but I think in the eyes of most AD is more proven and I think his game and bounce/lift works better with peak Harden.

[ArbitraryWater]

@alternative gotcha, makes sense that way

[AlternativeAcc.]

I'll take Kawhi

[SaltyMeatballs]

1st round recap:

1. 1987_Lakers - LeBron James
2. SaltyMeatballs - Steph Curry
3. Post - Nikola Jokic
4. SouBeachTalents - Giannis
5. Dankok - Kevin Durant
6. AlternativeAcc. - Dwyane Wade
7. ArbitraryWater - Anthony Davis

2nd round:
AW - Harden
AltAcc - Kawhi
Dankok -
SouBeach -
Post -
SaltyMeatballs -
1987_Lakers -

[BurningHammer]

Picking Jokic before Giannis or KD, really?

I mean, Jok is great and I like the guy. But he hasn't won the 'chip yet.

[SouBeachTalents]

Picking Jokic before Giannis or KD, really?

I mean, Jok is great and I like the guy. But he hasn't won the 'chip yet.
Jokic probably wins on the Warriors :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

jesus I had Kawhi in mind and then my brain skipped him

fck

[SouBeachTalents]

jesus I had Kawhi in mind and then my brain skipped him

fck
Yeah, I was gonna say, I was pretty shocked you took Harden over Kawhi :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Yeah, I was gonna say, I was pretty shocked you took Harden over Kawhi :lol

its gonna cost me.

im now the only one leaving round 1 without a guy thats led a tite team except jokic. but i think if i build it smart enough, i can make up for it. not like some of these guys are far behind or couldnt have done better in other circumstances.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Harden at 35ppg on >60% TS is a nice piece though.

All these teams will be stacked so it'll come down to fit more than anything I think

[dankok8]

Embiid

[SouBeachTalents]

Tatum

[post]

boy team chris paul

https://i.ibb.co/n6fhx1Y/Web-Product-POINTGOD-Black-600x-crop-center-1.jpg

girl team candace parker

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/TallExaltedAmericanalligator-size_restricted.gif

[SaltyMeatballs]

Give me Luka

[1987_Lakers]

Sorry guys. Super busy. I'll be home very soon and make my selections

[Wally450]

You want in? We need one more player.

I wish but I’m tied up the next week, and can’t be active enough to partake unfortunately.

[1987_Lakers]

Dwight Howard and Klay Thompson

[1987_Lakers]

1st round recap:

1. 1987_Lakers - LeBron James
2. SaltyMeatballs - Steph Curry
3. Post - Nikola Jokic
4. SouBeachTalents - Giannis
5. Dankok - Kevin Durant
6. AlternativeAcc. - Dwyane Wade
7. ArbitraryWater - Anthony Davis

2nd round:
AW - Harden
AltAcc - Kawhi
Dankok - Embiid
SouBeach - Tatum
Post - CP3
SaltyMeatballs - Luka
1987_Lakers - Dwight Howard

Round 3

1. 1987_Lakers - Klay Thompson
2. SaltyMeatballs -
3. Post -
4. SouBeachTalents -
5. Dankok -
6. AlternativeAcc. -
7. ArbitraryWater -

[SaltyMeatballs]

Carmelo Anthony

[SaltyMeatballs]

Players off the board so far:

LeBron, Steph, Jokic, Giannis, KD, Wade, AD, Harden, Kawhi, Embiid, Tatum, CP3, Luka, Dwight, Klay, Carmelo

[post]

boy team draymond green

https://i.ibb.co/nBV8VjX/maxresdefault-1-1.jpg

girl team maya moore

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SomeLividDormouse-size_restricted.gif

[SouBeachTalents]

Paul George

[1987_Lakers]

Morning yall

[dankok8]

Jimmy Buckets for me

[Charlie Sheen]

Giannis and Tatum is the most interesting pair to me so far because i cant come to a solid conclusion how that one is gonna play out. I could see myself ranking that pair anywhere from first to the lower half.
The sum of KD and Embiid appears greater than Lebron and Dwight
Wade and Kawhi is the one I'd have the most confidence in starting with.

Cool thread! :cheers:

[AlternativeAcc.]

Initially was gonna have Wade as my PG, but ill take Lillard. He's too good of a shooter to pass up. Elite shooting paired with the elite slashing of Wade in the backcourt

[ArbitraryWater]

Devin Booker and Khris Middleton.

[AlternativeAcc.]

OG Anunoby. His skill set is too important in today's league. Perfect 3 and D guy. Monster on defense.

[1987_Lakers]

1st round recap:

1. 1987_Lakers - LeBron James
2. SaltyMeatballs - Steph Curry
3. Post - Nikola Jokic
4. SouBeachTalents - Giannis
5. Dankok - Kevin Durant
6. AlternativeAcc. - Dwyane Wade
7. ArbitraryWater - Anthony Davis

2nd round:
AW - Harden
AltAcc - Kawhi
Dankok - Embiid
SouBeach - Tatum
Post - CP3
SaltyMeatballs - Luka
1987_Lakers - Dwight Howard

Round 3

1987_Lakers - Klay Thompson
SaltyMeatballs - Carmelo Anthony
Post - Draymond Green
SouBeachTalents - Paul George
dankok - Jimmy Butler
AlternativeAcc. - Damian Lillard
ArbitraryWater - Devin Booker

Round 4
ArbitraryWater - Kris Middleton
AlternativeAcc - OG Anunoby
Dankok
SouBeachTalents
Post
SaltyMeatBalls
1987_Lakers

[ArbitraryWater]

OG Anunoby. His skill set is too important in today's league. Perfect 3 and D guy. Monster on defense.

Interesting but you could have gotten him much later. Dont you think some further starpower could have been expoited first?

[AlternativeAcc.]

Interesting but you could have gotten him much later. Dont you think some further starpower could have been expoited first?

I thought about that, but I'd rather have the perfect starting lineup. There's diminishing returns with star power imo. Shallow draft too so I can still land some bench stars

OG is also a guy highly coveted in today's league, gotta prioritize that

[dankok8]

Jrue Holiday

[ArbitraryWater]

Jrue Holiday

Good one. Thought about him for my next picks.

[SouBeachTalents]

Kyle Lowry

[1987_Lakers]

1st round recap:

1. 1987_Lakers - LeBron James
2. SaltyMeatballs - Steph Curry
3. Post - Nikola Jokic
4. SouBeachTalents - Giannis
5. Dankok - Kevin Durant
6. AlternativeAcc. - Dwyane Wade
7. ArbitraryWater - Anthony Davis

2nd round:
AW - Harden
AltAcc - Kawhi
Dankok - Embiid
SouBeach - Tatum
Post - CP3
SaltyMeatballs - Luka
1987_Lakers - Dwight Howard

Round 3

1987_Lakers - Klay Thompson
SaltyMeatballs - Carmelo Anthony
Post - Draymond Green
SouBeachTalents - Paul George
dankok - Jimmy Butler
AlternativeAcc. - Damian Lillard
ArbitraryWater - Devin Booker

Round 4
ArbitraryWater - Kris Middleton
AlternativeAcc - OG Anunoby
Dankok - Jrue Holiday
SouBeachTalents - Kyle Lowry
Post
SaltyMeatBalls
1987_Lakers

[post]

boy team victor oladipo

https://i.ibb.co/NrNpqHT/221204097-10159155252301071-4389125901981385875-n-2.jpg

girl team brittney griner

https://i.ibb.co/f1shwns/giphy.gif

[ArbitraryWater]

this dude going for a team that coud maybe get home court in the west today

[Pipes2.0]

Cool thread.

[1987_Lakers]

Salty balls hurry up. Lol

[1987_Lakers]

Should I make my picks?

[AlternativeAcc.]

Should I make my picks?

Go for it, 8 hours is usually the allotted time

[1987_Lakers]

Can't turn down these two HOF talents who are still on the board. Kyrie & Bosh.

Kyrie has shown he can play with LeBron, he's a great shooter and feel I need one more perimeter player who can create his own shot besides LeBron. Bosh can stretch the floor and gives me great versatile defense for a big, could go out and guard the perimeter.

C - Dwight
F - Bosh
F - LeBron
G - Klay
G - Kyrie

[1987_Lakers]

1st round recap:

1. 1987_Lakers - LeBron James
2. SaltyMeatballs - Steph Curry
3. Post - Nikola Jokic
4. SouBeachTalents - Giannis
5. Dankok - Kevin Durant
6. AlternativeAcc. - Dwyane Wade
7. ArbitraryWater - Anthony Davis

2nd round:
AW - Harden
AltAcc - Kawhi
Dankok - Embiid
SouBeach - Tatum
Post - CP3
SaltyMeatballs - Luka
1987_Lakers - Dwight Howard

Round 3

1987_Lakers - Klay Thompson
SaltyMeatballs - Carmelo Anthony
Post - Draymond Green
SouBeachTalents - Paul George
dankok - Jimmy Butler
AlternativeAcc. - Damian Lillard
ArbitraryWater - Devin Booker

Round 4
ArbitraryWater - Kris Middleton
AlternativeAcc - OG Anunoby
Dankok - Jrue Holiday
SouBeachTalents - Kyle Lowry
Post - Victor Oladipo
SaltyMeatBalls - Kevin Love
1987_Lakers - Kyrie Irving

Round 5
1. 1987_Lakers - Chris Bosh
SaltyMeatballs - Zach LaVine
Post -
SouBeachTalents -
dankok -
AlternativeAcc. -
ArbitraryWater -

[AlternativeAcc.]

Salty you have 2 picks

[SaltyMeatballs]

Sorry y’all. Had a busy day

I’ll pick Kevin Love and Zach LaVine

[John8204]

I actually wouldn't mind signing up for this late and putting together a five....based on who is left

[1987_Lakers]

post on the clock

[post]

boy team danny green

https://i.ibb.co/zZS7Pr9/bbc5cb1d98cb021cf6a695750cf93fb0-san-antonio-spurs-danny-odonoghue.jpg

girl team diana taurasi

https://i.ibb.co/Lx8zp7B/giphy.gif

[Spurs m8]

All I see is a list of virgin's

[SouBeachTalents]

Marc Gasol

[ArbitraryWater]

Marc Gasol

Asshole

[ArbitraryWater]

Go for it, 8 hours is usually the allotted time

Thats tuff what if someone sleeps lol

Should be a day even if it sucks to drag

[dankok8]

Karl-Anthony Towns

[1987_Lakers]

1. 1987_Lakers - LeBron James
2. SaltyMeatballs - Steph Curry
3. Post - Nikola Jokic
4. SouBeachTalents - Giannis
5. Dankok - Kevin Durant
6. AlternativeAcc. - Dwyane Wade
7. ArbitraryWater - Anthony Davis

2nd round:
AW - Harden
AltAcc - Kawhi
Dankok - Embiid
SouBeach - Tatum
Post - CP3
SaltyMeatballs - Luka
1987_Lakers - Dwight Howard

Round 3

1987_Lakers - Klay Thompson
SaltyMeatballs - Carmelo Anthony
Post - Draymond Green
SouBeachTalents - Paul George
dankok - Jimmy Butler
AlternativeAcc. - Damian Lillard
ArbitraryWater - Devin Booker

Round 4
ArbitraryWater - Kris Middleton
AlternativeAcc - OG Anunoby
Dankok - Jrue Holiday
SouBeachTalents - Kyle Lowry
Post - Victor Oladipo
SaltyMeatBalls - Kevin Love
1987_Lakers - Kyrie Irving

Round 5
1. 1987_Lakers - Chris Bosh
SaltyMeatballs - Zach LaVine
Post - Danny Green
SouBeachTalents - Marc Gasol
dankok - Karl-Anthony Towns
AlternativeAcc. -
ArbitraryWater -

[Wardell Curry]

Peak LeBron, peak Dwight, peak Klay? gg.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Well I need rim protection, screen setting, and someone to finish off lobs from lillard/Wade efficiently. Give me that boy Toody. He's probably the best at those trio of things in nba history

As a 5th option surrounded by highly switchable and elite perimeter defenders and elite offensive playmakers, I think I've found the perfect fit for Toody.

[1987_Lakers]

Peak LeBron, peak Dwight, peak Klay? gg.

:pimp:

[ArbitraryWater]

Who whe.. Lets close these teams out and have some independant panel of respected posters vote on them.

[ArbitraryWater]

Michael Porter Jr. (shortage of great players at the 3) and Pascal Siakam at PF.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Brandon Roy

[1987_Lakers]

Brandon Roy

Was wondering when he was gonna get drafted. Had a short prime and retired a long time ago, so I'm sure some people forgot about him.

[1987_Lakers]

1. 1987_Lakers - LeBron James
2. SaltyMeatballs - Steph Curry
3. Post - Nikola Jokic
4. SouBeachTalents - Giannis
5. Dankok - Kevin Durant
6. AlternativeAcc. - Dwyane Wade
7. ArbitraryWater - Anthony Davis

2nd round:
AW - Harden
AltAcc - Kawhi
Dankok - Embiid
SouBeach - Tatum
Post - CP3
SaltyMeatballs - Luka
1987_Lakers - Dwight Howard

Round 3

1987_Lakers - Klay Thompson
SaltyMeatballs - Carmelo Anthony
Post - Draymond Green
SouBeachTalents - Paul George
dankok - Jimmy Butler
AlternativeAcc. - Damian Lillard
ArbitraryWater - Devin Booker

Round 4
ArbitraryWater - Kris Middleton
AlternativeAcc - OG Anunoby
Dankok - Jrue Holiday
SouBeachTalents - Kyle Lowry
Post - Victor Oladipo
SaltyMeatBalls - Kevin Love
1987_Lakers - Kyrie Irving

Round 5
1. 1987_Lakers - Chris Bosh
SaltyMeatballs - Zach LaVine
Post - Danny Green
SouBeachTalents - Marc Gasol
dankok - Karl-Anthony Towns
AlternativeAcc. - Rudy Gobert
ArbitraryWater - Michael Porter Jr.

Round 6
ArbitraryWater - Pascal Siakam
AlternativeAcc - Brandon Roy
Dankok -
SouBeachTalents -
Post -
SaltyMeatBalls -
1987_Lakers -

[AlternativeAcc.]

Was wondering when he was gonna get drafted. Had a short prime and retired a long time ago, so I'm sure some people forgot about him.

Dude was incredibly well rounded and clutch. Great defender too. Similar arc to T-Mac... just couldn't stay healthy but was a monster when he was

[1987_Lakers]

Dude was incredibly well rounded and clutch. Great defender too. Similar arc to T-Mac... just couldn't stay healthy but was a monster when he was

Not so sure about that. :lol

But very well rounded offensively, not the most athletic guy, but very skilled and clutch.

[ArbitraryWater]

Brandon Roy


Slick pick

[dankok8]

Deron Williams

One of the great PG's of the last 20 years that's mostly forgotten these days.

[ArbitraryWater]

Good pick. Was thinking of him.

Id say Williams > Roy, by a little bit

[SouBeachTalents]

Iggy

[post]

boy team joakim noah

https://i.ibb.co/jfjmkKN/quote-they-won-t-choose-joakim-noah-as-the-mvp-but-i-think-it-s-great-that-he-s-in-the-conversation.jpg

hot girl team his wife

https://i.ibb.co/0JbK4RY/Lais-Ribeiro-1.jpg

girl team sylvia fowles

https://i.ibb.co/y8Hw9Qb/e4ddffd16400f3e14450df13feca1e81.gif

[1987_Lakers]

Damn, looks like it's gonna be another long wait to make my picks. :lol

[Wally450]

Deron Williams

One of the great PG's of the last 20 years that's mostly forgotten these days.

He really was great at his peak. Shame his prime didn't last too long. He was great on those Jazz teams.

[AussieSteve]

I shouldn't really inteject and potentially influence this draft, but how has no one picked Derrick Rose yet!?

[ArbitraryWater]

I shouldn't really inteject and potentially influence this draft, but how has no one picked Derrick Rose yet!?

2 year peak/stretch to consider required and even for his 1-year best 2011 its questionable if he adds any value to a superteam.

[1987_Lakers]

Mike Conley and Mikal Bridges.

[1987_Lakers]

1. 1987_Lakers - LeBron James
2. SaltyMeatballs - Steph Curry
3. Post - Nikola Jokic
4. SouBeachTalents - Giannis
5. Dankok - Kevin Durant
6. AlternativeAcc. - Dwyane Wade
7. ArbitraryWater - Anthony Davis

2nd round:
AW - Harden
AltAcc - Kawhi
Dankok - Embiid
SouBeach - Tatum
Post - CP3
SaltyMeatballs - Luka
1987_Lakers - Dwight Howard

Round 3

1987_Lakers - Klay Thompson
SaltyMeatballs - Carmelo Anthony
Post - Draymond Green
SouBeachTalents - Paul George
dankok - Jimmy Butler
AlternativeAcc. - Damian Lillard
ArbitraryWater - Devin Booker

Round 4
ArbitraryWater - Kris Middleton
AlternativeAcc - OG Anunoby
Dankok - Jrue Holiday
SouBeachTalents - Kyle Lowry
Post - Victor Oladipo
SaltyMeatBalls - Kevin Love
1987_Lakers - Kyrie Irving

Round 5
1. 1987_Lakers - Chris Bosh
SaltyMeatballs - Zach LaVine
Post - Danny Green
SouBeachTalents - Marc Gasol
dankok - Karl-Anthony Towns
AlternativeAcc. - Rudy Gobert
ArbitraryWater - Michael Porter Jr.

Round 6
ArbitraryWater - Pascal Siakam
AlternativeAcc - Brandon Roy
Dankok - Deron Williams
SouBeachTalents - Andre Iguodala
Post - Joakim Noah
SaltyMeatBalls - skipped
1987_Lakers - Mike Conley

Round 7
1987_Lakers - Mikal Bridges
SaltyMeatballs -
Post -
SouBeachTalents -
dankok -
AlternativeAcc. -
ArbitraryWater -

[1987_Lakers]

Depending on matchup, might have LeBron start at the 4 instead of Bosh.

C - Dwight
F - Lebron - Bosh
F - Bridges
F - Klay
G - Kyrie - Conley

Klay & Bridges give me great 3 & D. Drafted Conley because he gives me a more traditional PG, little weaknesses in his game, could shoot and defend.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Depending on matchup, might have LeBron start at the 4 instead of Bosh.

C - Dwight
F - Lebron - Bosh
F - Bridges
F - Klay
G - Kyrie - Conley

Klay & Bridges give me great 3 & D. Drafted Conley because he gives me a more traditional PG, little weaknesses in his game, could shoot and defend.

Excellent team. Having the 1st pick and being able to skip in line twice now is too big of an advantage for a drafter like you lol.

It's between u and southbeach talents at this point imo. Hasn't been my best draft. I think I'll wind up with the best defensive team but can't ignore you and south each offense and chemistry, well done

[1987_Lakers]

Excellent team. Having the 1st pick and being able to skip in line twice now is too big of an advantage for a drafter like you lol.

It's between u and southbeach talents at this point imo. Hasn't been my best draft. I think I'll wind up with the best defensive team but can't ignore you and south each offense and chemistry, well done

Was really tempted to take Bridges back in round 5, glad I waited.

BTW RIP SaltyMeatBalls :lol

[AlternativeAcc.]

Was really tempted to take Bridges back in round 5, glad I waited.

BTW RIP SaltyMeatBalls :lol

I contemplated Bridges over OG but I think OG is more versatile defensively and can guard the 4 and 5 a lot better than Mikal due to strength. He'd also shown to be a good 3 point shooter despite atrocious spacing in Toronto. My justification was that Wade, Lillard, and Kawhi can all create offense at an elite level, so it's better to value the defensive advantages... hence OG and Gobert..

Bridges makes sense on your squad tho because he can create offense a bit better. I definitely like the spacing he adds over Bosh in most cases

Looking at my team again I think I sold it short. It's still a really good team. Probably won't get the votes though lol

[AlternativeAcc.]

Salty balls you 2 picks

[ArbitraryWater]

Excellent team. Having the 1st pick and being able to skip in line twice now is too big of an advantage for a drafter like you lol.

It's between u and southbeach talents at this point imo. Hasn't been my best draft. I think I'll wind up with the best defensive team but can't ignore you and south each offense and chemistry, well done

yea 1st pick and Bron/Dwight/Klay is pretty OP.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Post go ahead and make your pick, lets get this rolling

[post]

boy team alex caruso

https://i.ibb.co/99W9QJM/FFsc-SL4ak-AEd-AA1-1.jpg

girl team nneka ogwumike

https://i.ibb.co/jWSfGX0/giphy.gif

[SouBeachTalents]

Jaylen Brown

[ArbitraryWater]

Jaylen Brown

are we skipping him entirely now or what? :lol

lets hold back on this one.


post can always go first cause hes about to pick monta ellis next or some shit

[AlternativeAcc.]

Dankok u are up

[AlternativeAcc.]

are we skipping him entirely now or what? :lol

lets hold back on this one.


post can always go first cause hes about to pick monta ellis next or some shit

8 hours per pick or this shit never gets finished and everybody loses interest lol

[dankok8]

Andrew Wiggins

[AlternativeAcc.]

Horford

[j3lademaster]

Excellent team. Having the 1st pick and being able to skip in line twice now is too big of an advantage for a drafter like you lol.

It's between u and southbeach talents at this point imo. Hasn't been my best draft. I think I'll wind up with the best defensive team but can't ignore you and south each offense and chemistry, well doneI wouldn't sell your team short, Wade and Kawhi are some of the best playoff performers. I would like your team more if you had a more versatile defensive pg like Jrue(but I guess you saw this and took Roy), but your team is up there. Kawhi isn't going to have the career of some of these other guys due to longevity, but if we're talking strictly peaks in a high stakes scenario like the playoffs, I think Giannis and Lebron are the only ones I'm taking over him. And even then he has a case, he's that good. 09 Wade will be even better defensively since he doesn't have to shoulder all the offensive responsibility here.

[ArbitraryWater]

Let me take the 5th-6th best PG of the draft so far, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.

On top of that, Andrew ****ing Bynum.


Some probably like to take Bam Adebayo for his all-around game and defense (Bynum was no slouch on defense at all), but when it comes down to it Bynum was a much bigger scoring factor and was more to be contained than Bam.

[1987_Lakers]

1. 1987_Lakers - LeBron James
2. SaltyMeatballs - Steph Curry
3. Post - Nikola Jokic
4. SouBeachTalents - Giannis
5. Dankok - Kevin Durant
6. AlternativeAcc. - Dwyane Wade
7. ArbitraryWater - Anthony Davis

2nd round:
AW - Harden
AltAcc - Kawhi
Dankok - Embiid
SouBeach - Tatum
Post - CP3
SaltyMeatballs - Luka
1987_Lakers - Dwight Howard

Round 3

1987_Lakers - Klay Thompson
SaltyMeatballs - Carmelo Anthony
Post - Draymond Green
SouBeachTalents - Paul George
dankok - Jimmy Butler
AlternativeAcc. - Damian Lillard
ArbitraryWater - Devin Booker

Round 4
ArbitraryWater - Kris Middleton
AlternativeAcc - OG Anunoby
Dankok - Jrue Holiday
SouBeachTalents - Kyle Lowry
Post - Victor Oladipo
SaltyMeatBalls - Kevin Love
1987_Lakers - Kyrie Irving

Round 5
1. 1987_Lakers - Chris Bosh
SaltyMeatballs - Zach LaVine
Post - Danny Green
SouBeachTalents - Marc Gasol
dankok - Karl-Anthony Towns
AlternativeAcc. - Rudy Gobert
ArbitraryWater - Michael Porter Jr.

Round 6
ArbitraryWater - Pascal Siakam
AlternativeAcc - Brandon Roy
Dankok - Deron Williams
SouBeachTalents - Andre Iguodala
Post - Joakim Noah
SaltyMeatBalls - skipped
1987_Lakers - Mike Conley

Round 7
1987_Lakers - Mikal Bridges
SaltyMeatballs -
Post - Alex Caruso
SouBeachTalents - Jaylen Brown
dankok - Andrew Wiggins
AlternativeAcc. - Al Horford
ArbitraryWater - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.

Round 8 -
ArbitraryWater - Andrew Bynum
AlternativeAcc -
Dankok -
SouBeachTalents -
Post -
SaltyMeatBalls -
1987_Lakers -

[AlternativeAcc.]

Desmond Bane.

Super young guy but he's a career 43% 3 point shooter on high volume. Good defender, elite off ball player, and can create for himself well. Probably the closest guy to Klay in today's NBA. Has more potential as an overall scorer because superior ball handling.

[AlternativeAcc.]

I wouldn't sell your team short, Wade and Kawhi are some of the best playoff performers. I would like your team more if you had a more versatile defensive pg like Jrue(but I guess you saw this and took Roy), but your team is up there. Kawhi isn't going to have the career of some of these other guys due to longevity, but if we're talking strictly peaks in a high stakes scenario like the playoffs, I think Giannis and Lebron are the only ones I'm taking over him. And even then he has a case, he's that good. 09 Wade will be even better defensively since he doesn't have to shoulder all the offensive responsibility here.

Lillards value as a high volume outside shooter is pretty important, especially alongside Wade who was an extreme slasher/Cutter off ball. Yoi can run the offense through both, and they'd complement each other well.

I dont think the team has many problems defensively with wade/OG/Kawhi/Gobert lol.

[dankok8]

Lamarcus Aldridge

[SouBeachTalents]

Bam Adebayo

[post]

boy team jaren jackson jr.

https://i.ibb.co/xf650PS/FKOn-DO-XIAMu1-O1-1.jpg

girl team breanna stewart

https://i.ibb.co/jg1KnrQ/giphy-3.gif

[1987_Lakers]

Andrew Bogut - One of the best defensive and passing centers of his time. Top tier rim protector.

Kirk Hinrich - AKA the Wade Stopper. Peaked at 16/3/6 on 41 3pt%. Could shoot, made an All-Defensive Team in 2007. Pretty good playmaker as well, think prime Danny Ainge with better defense. Wade called him the hardest defender he ever went up against.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks3oe2i925M

C - Dwight | Bogut
F - LeBron | Bosh
F - Mikal Bridges
G - Klay | Hinrich
G - Kyrie | Conley

[1987_Lakers]

1. 1987_Lakers - LeBron James
2. SaltyMeatballs - Steph Curry
3. Post - Nikola Jokic
4. SouBeachTalents - Giannis
5. Dankok - Kevin Durant
6. AlternativeAcc. - Dwyane Wade
7. ArbitraryWater - Anthony Davis

2nd round:
AW - Harden
AltAcc - Kawhi
Dankok - Embiid
SouBeach - Tatum
Post - CP3
SaltyMeatballs - Luka
1987_Lakers - Dwight Howard

Round 3

1987_Lakers - Klay Thompson
SaltyMeatballs - Carmelo Anthony
Post - Draymond Green
SouBeachTalents - Paul George
dankok - Jimmy Butler
AlternativeAcc. - Damian Lillard
ArbitraryWater - Devin Booker

Round 4
ArbitraryWater - Kris Middleton
AlternativeAcc - OG Anunoby
Dankok - Jrue Holiday
SouBeachTalents - Kyle Lowry
Post - Victor Oladipo
SaltyMeatBalls - Kevin Love
1987_Lakers - Kyrie Irving

Round 5
1. 1987_Lakers - Chris Bosh
SaltyMeatballs - Zach LaVine
Post - Danny Green
SouBeachTalents - Marc Gasol
dankok - Karl-Anthony Towns
AlternativeAcc. - Rudy Gobert
ArbitraryWater - Michael Porter Jr.

Round 6
ArbitraryWater - Pascal Siakam
AlternativeAcc - Brandon Roy
Dankok - Deron Williams
SouBeachTalents - Andre Iguodala
Post - Joakim Noah
SaltyMeatBalls - skipped
1987_Lakers - Mike Conley

Round 7
1987_Lakers - Mikal Bridges
SaltyMeatballs -
Post - Alex Caruso
SouBeachTalents - Jaylen Brown
dankok - Andrew Wiggins
AlternativeAcc. - Al Horford
ArbitraryWater - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.

Round 8 -
ArbitraryWater - Andrew Bynum
AlternativeAcc - Desmond Bane
Dankok - Lamarcus Aldridge
SouBeachTalents - Bam Adebayo
Post - jaren jackson jr.
SaltyMeatBalls - skipped
1987_Lakers - Andrew Bogut

Round 9
1987_Lakers - Kirk Hinrich
SaltyMeatballs - skipped
Post -
SouBeachTalents -
dankok -
AlternativeAcc. -
ArbitraryWater

Post on the clock

[post]

i'll take curry if meatballs forfeits his picks

just kidding

boy team derrick white

https://i.ibb.co/3W4FGwv/94504738-1323223438065215-2525593765373018112-n-1.jpg

girl team angel mccoughtry

https://i.ibb.co/Wc3bzfd/giphy-2.gif

[1987_Lakers]

Just noticed Kirk Hinrich was the last white guard to make an All-defensive team. :lol

[zeerghit]

how nobody is taking playoff Rondo?

[AussieSteve]

how nobody is taking playoff Rondo?

How nobody thinks peak Derrick Rose, who won an MVP and led the Bulls to the leagues best record, is not one of the best 20+ guards drafted over the last 20 years?

[zeerghit]

How nobody thinks peak Derrick Rose, who won an MVP and led the Bulls to the leagues best record, is not one of the best 20+ guards drafted over the last 20 years?

no idea.. they just took White and Kirk.. or peak Luol Deng in this era is just better OG version

[ArbitraryWater]

How nobody thinks peak Derrick Rose, who won an MVP and led the Bulls to the leagues best record, is not one of the best 20+ guards drafted over the last 20 years?

aready expained this to you.

[SouBeachTalents]

Tyrese Haliburton

[dankok8]

Danny Granger

[zeerghit]

aready expained this to you.

just curious you said:"2 year peak/stretch to consider required and even for his 1-year best 2011 its questionable if he adds any value to a superteam"
So which two year for Michael Porter Jr?

[1987_Lakers]

just curious you said:"2 year peak/stretch to consider required and even for his 1-year best 2011 its questionable if he adds any value to a superteam"
So which two year for Michael Porter Jr?

As talented as he was, Rose as a player couldn't shoot from long range or play defense. No real benefit in having Rose when other lesser players fill in more roles & his scoring isn't really needed since every team has scorers on here.

A guy like Hinrich can do more things on the floor while being the worse player overall.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Brandon Ingram

Could split minutes with OG, can score from anywhere and a good passer.

[zeerghit]

As talented as he was, Rose as a player couldn't shoot from long range or play defense. No real benefit in having Rose when other lesser players fill in more roles & his scoring isn't really needed since every team has scorers on here.

A guy like Hinrich can do more things on the floor while being the worse player overall.

im not promoting Rose, i can see your point

[1987_Lakers]

As we head into the final round, please post your team's depth chart after you make your final pick, something like this

C - Dwight | Bogut
F - LeBron | Bosh
F- Bridges
G - Klay | Hinrich
G - Kyrie | Conley

1. 1987_Lakers - LeBron James
2. SaltyMeatballs - Steph Curry
3. Post - Nikola Jokic
4. SouBeachTalents - Giannis
5. Dankok - Kevin Durant
6. AlternativeAcc. - Dwyane Wade
7. ArbitraryWater - Anthony Davis

2nd round:
AW - Harden
AltAcc - Kawhi
Dankok - Embiid
SouBeach - Tatum
Post - CP3
SaltyMeatballs - Luka
1987_Lakers - Dwight Howard

Round 3

1987_Lakers - Klay Thompson
SaltyMeatballs - Carmelo Anthony
Post - Draymond Green
SouBeachTalents - Paul George
dankok - Jimmy Butler
AlternativeAcc. - Damian Lillard
ArbitraryWater - Devin Booker

Round 4
ArbitraryWater - Kris Middleton
AlternativeAcc - OG Anunoby
Dankok - Jrue Holiday
SouBeachTalents - Kyle Lowry
Post - Victor Oladipo
SaltyMeatBalls - Kevin Love
1987_Lakers - Kyrie Irving

Round 5
1. 1987_Lakers - Chris Bosh
SaltyMeatballs - Zach LaVine
Post - Danny Green
SouBeachTalents - Marc Gasol
dankok - Karl-Anthony Towns
AlternativeAcc. - Rudy Gobert
ArbitraryWater - Michael Porter Jr.

Round 6
ArbitraryWater - Pascal Siakam
AlternativeAcc - Brandon Roy
Dankok - Deron Williams
SouBeachTalents - Andre Iguodala
Post - Joakim Noah
SaltyMeatBalls - skipped
1987_Lakers - Mike Conley

Round 7
1987_Lakers - Mikal Bridges
SaltyMeatballs -
Post - Alex Caruso
SouBeachTalents - Jaylen Brown
dankok - Andrew Wiggins
AlternativeAcc. - Al Horford
ArbitraryWater - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.

Round 8 -
ArbitraryWater - Andrew Bynum
AlternativeAcc - Desmond Bane
Dankok - Lamarcus Aldridge
SouBeachTalents - Bam Adebayo
Post - jaren jackson jr.
SaltyMeatBalls - skipped
1987_Lakers - Andrew Bogut

Round 9
1987_Lakers - Kirk Hinrich
SaltyMeatballs - skipped
Post - Derrick White
SouBeachTalents - Tyrese Haliburton
dankok - Danny Granger
AlternativeAcc. - Brandon Ingram
ArbitraryWater

Round 10
ArbitraryWater -
AlternativeAcc -
Dankok -
SouBeachTalents -
Post -
SaltyMeatBalls -
1987_Lakers

[dankok8]

Derrick Rose was nothing special as a floor general/primary playmaker and while he scored on good volume his efficiency hovered around league average so while I've been wanting to draft him I feel like he adds nothing to my team. He's also average if not below average on defense and not a very good 3pt shooter so even less valuable in today's NBA since he isn't that good at using the rim pressure he exerts to set up other shooters like say Lebron is .

[ArbitraryWater]

just curious you said:"2 year peak/stretch to consider required and even for his 1-year best 2011 its questionable if he adds any value to a superteam"
So which two year for Michael Porter Jr?

the last 2 years hes played ^^


2011 Rose is a nobody in the grand scheme of things. Wasnt even unordinarily good. He just had the most circumstantial MVP award ever.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Derrick Rose was nothing special as a floor general/primary playmaker and while he scored on good volume his efficiency hovered around league average so while I've been wanting to draft him I feel like he adds nothing to my team. He's also average if not below average on defense and not a very good 3pt shooter so even less valuable in today's NBA since he isn't that good at using the rim pressure he exerts to set up other shooters like say Lebron is .

Rose surrounded by shooters/defenders is intriguing though, I almost went that route. Didn't have much spacing on those Bulls teams and got to the rim like a stud. Had a unique body control and burst you don't really see often, and good touch around the rim. But yeah I went Roy just for size and more pure shooting, I think it's more valuable in the playoffs especially today

Rose is a good floor raiser (like westbrick) but doesn't add much to a super-team outside of a well constructed bench role

[ArbitraryWater]

Bridges and Haliburton means the 2 year thing isnt really taken too seriously, so let me take Lauri Markannen (starter) to finish ya off.

And since SGs are loaded there was no hurry to draft this man earlier, but another 70+ point gamer, Donovan Mitchell.



https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3rtyerfHZ1qir45xo1_500.gif

[1987_Lakers]

Bridges and Haliburton means the 2 year thing isnt really taken too seriously, so let me take Lauri Markannen (starter) to finish ya off.

And since SGs are loaded there was no hurry to draft this man earlier, but another 70+ point gamer, Donovan Mitchell.



https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3rtyerfHZ1qir45xo1_500.gif

Nvm: I skimmed through your post and thought you took Miles Bridges

please post your depth chart

[ArbitraryWater]

Please post depth chart

Im taking Markannen and Mitchell

edit: you making me look silly with that edit hah

[dankok8]

Rose surrounded by shooters/defenders is intriguing though, I almost went that route. Didn't have much spacing on those Bulls teams and got to the rim like a stud. Had a unique body control and burst you don't really see often, and good touch around the rim. But yeah I went Roy just for size and more pure shooting, I think it's more valuable in the playoffs especially today

Rose is a good floor raiser (like westbrick) but doesn't add much to a super-team outside of a well constructed bench role

Not really.. Rose isn't that great of a playmaker.

[ArbitraryWater]

fill

[ArbitraryWater]

PG: James Harden / SGA
SG: Devin Booker / Donovan Mitchell
SF: Khris Middleton / Michael Porter Jr.
PF: Lauri Markannen / Pascal Siakam
C: Anthony Davis / Andrew Bynum



:pimp:

[AlternativeAcc.]

Luol Deng, and no Zeergit didn't influence my pick lol. I've been eyeing him for a few rounds now

Another highly versatile defender, and more of a PF in todays league. Spaces the floor, really good passer, high IQ.



G: Damian Lillard / Brandon Roy
G: Dwayne Wade / Desmond Bane
F: Kawhi Leonard / Brandon Ingram
F: OG Anunoby / Luol Deng
C: Rudy Gobert / Al Horford

[AlternativeAcc.]

Not really.. Rose isn't that great of a playmaker.
25/7 is pretty good playmaker lol. Let's not act like he was a scrub. Playmaking is more than vision and passing, which he was still above average in those areas

[dankok8]

Brook Lopez

PG: Jrue Holiday/Deron Williams
SG: Jimmy Butler/Danny Granger
SF: Kevin Durant/Andrew Wiggins
PF: Karl-Anthony Towns/Lamarcus Aldridge
C: Joel Embiid/Brook Lopez

[dankok8]

25/7 is pretty good playmaker lol. Let's not act like he was a scrub. Playmaking is more than vision and passing, which he was still above average in those areas

Above average doesn't cut it when we are drafting the best of the best.

[ArbitraryWater]

Above average doesn't cut it when we are drafting the best of the best.


SHOTS being FIRED

[ArbitraryWater]

shoud all participants vote on the other teams in order and then we combine the points? (1st gets 7, 2nd 6, etc)

[AlternativeAcc.]

Above average doesn't cut it when we are drafting the best of the best.

He was a great playmaker though. 25/8 in a slower era and surrounded by no shooters. (except deng :)) Are we forgetting how athletic this dude was at his peak? He used to slice through defenses like a mad man, and was a better decision maker than WB. (low bar, but WB was a great playmaker too due to similar reasons_

I think the problem is he had one outlier year and was never healthy again, but he certainly was a great playmaker for that short time.

[AlternativeAcc.]

shoud all participants vote on the other teams in order and then we combine the points? (1st gets 7, 2nd 6, etc)

Yes, something like that.

We also need some minutes splits. Some guys from the bench will see more minutes than others

[dankok8]

He was a great playmaker though. 25/8 in a slower era and surrounded by no shooters. (except deng :)) Are we forgetting how athletic this dude was at his peak? He used to slice through defenses like a mad man, and was a better decision maker than WB. (low bar, but WB was a great playmaker too due to similar reasons_

I think the problem is he had one outlier year and was never healthy again, but he certainly was a great playmaker for that short time.

Westbrook is actually a better playmaker. He's a good floor general in instances that he plays under control. Still I would never draft him LOL

Rose was an average playmaker for a full-time PG. Nothing to write home about... And he used to slice defenses left and right but was just ok finishing at the rim due to his lack of size. Today he's for sure a little better finishing with barely any defensive bigs roaming in the paint but then again every defense will sag off of him and let him shoot the three. He will get the Westbook treatment. And that means his rim pressure is out the window in half court situations.

[SouBeachTalents]

Paul Millsap

[1987_Lakers]

Paul Millsap

please post final depth chart

Post is on the clock

[post]

boy team robert covington

https://i.ibb.co/JpVSpNW/maxresdefault-1.jpg

girl team cappie pondexter

https://i.ibb.co/CJcyY4J/12771641-10153900165924280-8186191790968215837-o.jpg

[AlternativeAcc.]

Salty you are on the clock with 6 picks.



87, you must wait for him to make all 6 selections.








:oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

Damn, I was eyeing Robert Covington. For the last pick of the draft I'll take Trevor Ariza

C - Dwight | Bogut
F - LeBron | Bosh
F - Mikal Bridges | Ariza
G - Klay | Hinrich
G - Kyrie | Conley

Surrounded Bron with a bunch of shooters and defenders, Kyrie can be that 2nd option if more offense needs to be created.

it's over :rockon:

[AlternativeAcc.]

Damn, I was eyeing Robert Covington. For the last pick of the draft I'll take Trevor Ariza

C - Dwight | Bogut
F - LeBron | Bosh
F - Mikal Bridges | Ariza
G - Klay | Hinrich
G - Kyrie | Conley

Surrounded Bron with a bunch of shooters and defenders, Kyrie can be that 2nd option if more offense needs to be created.

it's over :rockon:

Not a lot of scoring on the bench lol. Other than Kyrie no great shot creators

Great team though obviously :cheers:

[post]

nikola jokic/joakim noah
draymond green/jaren jackson jr.
danny green/robert covington
victor oladipo/derrick white
chris paul/alex caruso

brittney griner/sylvia fowles
candace parker/nneka ogwumike
maya moore/breanna stewart
elena delle donne/angel mccoughtry
diana taurasi/cappie pondexter

https://i.ibb.co/NZVsdxP/we-are-the-036ufh-1.jpg

[1987_Lakers]

Not a lot of scoring on the bench lol. Other than Kyrie no great shot creators

Great team though obviously :cheers:

I'm aware. Which is one of the reasons why I decided to have Bosh off the bench.

I feel I have the best team if we are factoring defense and shooting.

[SouBeachTalents]

PG: Kyle Lowry / Tyrese Haliburton
SG: Paul George / Jaylen Brown
SF: Jayson Tatum / Andre Iguodala
PF: Giannis / Paul Millsap
C: Marc Gasol / Bam Adebayo

[1987_Lakers]

I can probably make the realgm thread real quick before I leave if I get soubeachtalents depth chart.

[AlternativeAcc.]

I'm aware. Which is one of the reasons why I decided to have Bosh off the bench.

I feel I have the best team if we are factoring defense and shooting.

My starting lineup is better defensively and has great shooting too. Also have 5 really good shot creators in Lillard, Wade, Kawhi, Roy, and Ingram. Bunch of 3 point shooting too.


I like my team and South beach as the top 2. Also I think we should do how they vote for MVP, 1st place vote = 10 points, 2nd 7 points, 3rd = 5, 4th = 3, 5th = 1


So they rank them in order and the points are added from that.

[1987_Lakers]

Thread is up

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2272501

[AlternativeAcc.]

Thread is up

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2272501

lol should've done the points system. Dude already voted for you just because you have lebron. It's not an accurate judgement overall

[1987_Lakers]

lol should've done the points system. Dude already voted for you just because you have lebron. It's not an accurate judgement overall

Sorry bro, saw this after I posted the thread.

3 early votes for your boy. :rockon:

[AlternativeAcc.]

Sorry bro, saw this after I posted the thread.

3 early votes for your boy. :rockon:

Voting for your own team bro? Lol jk



we can try the point system here on ISH and see if the results change

[1987_Lakers]

Voting for your own team bro? Lol jk



we can try the point system here on ISH and see if the results change

Im down for that.

[ArbitraryWater]

I'm aware. Which is one of the reasons why I decided to have Bosh off the bench.

I feel I have the best team if we are factoring defense and shooting.

Your starting 5 is OP and probably the best athough I havent seen a teams yet, but your bench is super sketchy. No scoring at all for this level. My bench would outscore you by 3x in the minutes they play.

[ArbitraryWater]

scrap the RGM stuff.

we should formulate minutes before that.

RGM thinks theyre super smart and will think i have too many scorers, when in reality im simply outscoring everyone.

[ArbitraryWater]

My starting lineup is better defensively and has great shooting too. Also have 5 really good shot creators in Lillard, Wade, Kawhi, Roy, and Ingram. Bunch of 3 point shooting too.


I like my team and South beach as the top 2. Also I think we should do how they vote for MVP, 1st place vote = 10 points, 2nd 7 points, 3rd = 5, 4th = 3, 5th = 1


So they rank them in order and the points are added from that.

thats a gimmick though.

dont think we shoud do it ike that here.

[1987_Lakers]

from realgm

Team 4 is pretty great lineup construction with LeBron. LeBron + shooters is always a potent offense. We already know he plays well with Irving and Bosh, Klay is the perfect off-ball guy, Bridges and peak Ariza are excellent 3&D wings. Oh and peak Dwight was the best defender in the league;

:pimp:

[AlternativeAcc.]

thats a gimmick though.

dont think we shoud do it ike that here.

What do you mean gimmick?

I think it matters how many 2nd and 3rd place votes you would get. It's a lot more comprehensive and accurate that way. I guess I'll try this on reddit because the potential for volume votes is way higher than you'll get on here or realgm.

[1987_Lakers]

Your starting 5 is OP and probably the best athough I havent seen a teams yet, but your bench is super sketchy. No scoring at all for this level. My bench would outscore you by 3x in the minutes they play.

We would abuse your weak defenders like Harden & Porter Jr. :cheers:

[zeerghit]

Sorry bro, saw this after I posted the thread.

3 early votes for your boy. :rockon:

Biggest snubs
Diaw
Tony Allen
Rondo

HM
Batum
Rose

[1987_Lakers]

Biggest snubs
Diaw
Tony Allen
Rondo

HM
Batum
Rose

Zion as well

[dankok8]

Durant/Embiid is a better duo than Lebron/Howard. And especially in today's game where Howard is just clogging the paint for Lebron to drive since he's useless offensively more than 5 feet from the basket. And since he has no post game you can't run the offense through him.

Of course RGM voters will just see Lebron and vote for his team.

[ArbitraryWater]

This is really tough.

1987 and Buda sry Alternative have the strongest Starting 5s but the weakest Benches. Also Alternatives Dame/Wade/Kawhi is 3 players operating a little too similarly for my taste.

dankok has a nasty starting 5 also but Im not too fond of Granger/Wiggins, kinda weak at this pace imo, and dont offer any role player values that could fit in better.

SouBeach has a good starting 5 and a good bench. Better bench than the others but starting 5 slightly worse.

posts is a gimmick.

I honestly find my team best.

Ill try to rank yall though.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Zion as well

Surprised Wall or Beal weren't chosen. Griffin was a fringe guy

[zeerghit]

Zion as well

nah hes not here, but how nobody took Diaw is beyond me hes like perfect for today small nba

[ArbitraryWater]

What do you mean gimmick?

I think it matters how many 2nd and 3rd place votes you would get. It's a lot more comprehensive and accurate that way. I guess I'll try this on reddit because the potential for volume votes is way higher than you'll get on here or realgm.

its not a logical voting pattern.

if you finish 1 place ahead, you should get 1 more point, not arbitrarily assigning a bigger point difference since the spot is higher.

[1987_Lakers]

Durant/Embiid is a better duo than Lebron/Howard. And especially in today's game where Howard is just clogging the paint for Lebron to drive since he's useless offensively more than 5 feet from the basket. And since he has no post game you can't run the offense through him.

Of course RGM voters will just see Lebron and vote for his team.

We had another all-time draft (which I won) where LeBron's team had low votes.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2207635

And 2011 Dwight did in fact have a nice post game

[dankok8]

This is really tough.

1987 and Buda sry Alternative have the strongest Starting 5s but the weakest Benches. Also Alternatives Dame/Wade/Kawhi is 3 players operating a little too similarly for my taste.

dankok has a nasty starting 5 also but Im not too fond of Granger/Wiggins, kinda weak at this pace imo, and dont offer any role player values that could fit in better.

SouBeach has a good starting 5 and a good bench. Better bench than the others but starting 5 slightly worse.

posts is a gimmick.

I honestly find my team best.

Ill try to rank yall though.

Granger is just a scorer off the bench. Probably won't get many minutes unless Butler gets in foul trouble.

Wiggins is a very good defender with a complete offensive game. Just to be clear I'm taking the 2022 version.

[ArbitraryWater]

We would abuse your weak defenders like Harden & Porter Jr. :cheers:

Who? Ariza? Hinrich? Nah

Hinrich is a nice role player but not fit enough for a spot at this level.

Take MPJ / Iggy. I was thinking Iggy for a second. MPJ is still an overall better player though.


MPJ is not redundant just cause SGA and Mitchell are in the 2nd unit. Who brings more vaue to them? Probaby still MPJ.

[ArbitraryWater]

Granger is just a scorer off the bench. Probably won't get many minutes unless Butler gets in foul trouble.

Wiggins is a very good defender with a complete offensive game. Just to be clear I'm taking the 2022 version.

I dont see Wiggins as having a complete offensive game. I see him as being in the right spot at GSW but overall still having blackhole tendencies.

[dankok8]

We had another all-time draft (which I won) where LeBron's team had low votes.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2207635

And 2011 Dwight did in fact have a nice post game

Howard is mediocre at best in the post and an even worse passer out of the post.

[1987_Lakers]

Still too early, but might actually pull off a 3 peat in winning these dratfs. :pimp:

[dankok8]

I dont see Wiggins as having a complete offensive game. I see him as being in the right spot at GSW but overall still having blackhole tendencies.

Well he's not a playmaker. I have Jrue/D Will/Butler for that.

[1987_Lakers]

Well he's not a playmaker. I have Jrue/D Will/Butler for that.

You have weak shooters

[ArbitraryWater]

1) 1987

C - Dwight Howard | Andrew Bogut
F - LeBron James| Chris Bosh
F - Mikal Bridges | Trevor Ariza
G - Klay Thompson | Kirk Hinrich
G - Kyrie Irving| Mike Conley

weak bench but I think the starting 5 is OP.

Actually, you should put Conley with the starters and Kyrie off the bench.

2) dankok

PG: Jrue Holiday/Deron Williams
SG: Jimmy Butler/Danny Granger
SF: Kevin Durant/Andrew Wiggins
PF: Karl-Anthony Towns/Lamarcus Aldridge
C: Joel Embiid/Brook Lopez

Nasty team, KD surrounded by strong minded tough nosed guys to cover his flaws also. Towns not reay proven. Granger/Wiggins is weak but D-Will, LMA and Brook is real nice.

3) SouBeach

PG: Kyle Lowry / Tyrese Haliburton
SG: Paul George / Jaylen Brown
SF: Jayson Tatum / Andre Iguodala
PF: Giannis / Paul Millsap
C: Marc Gasol / Bam Adebayo

Not really a 2nd Superstar, but basically 8 stars that fit pretty well except PG/Tatum and supreme defense with M Gasol and Iggy while also having scoring in the areas those 2 players operate from.

4) Alternative

G: Damian Lillard / Brandon Roy
G: Dwayne Wade / Desmond Bane
F: Kawhi Leonard / Brandon Ingram
F: OG Anunoby / Luol Deng
C: Rudy Gobert / Al Horford

Sorry bro, but the bench is weak and even the starters have 2 role payers. 3 beasts and the rest is fringe all stars to good role payers. Also the 3 beasts all do the same, essentially.

5) post

fun team but yeah


1987 = 6 points
dankok = 5 points
SouBeach = 4 points
Alternative = 3 points
post = 2 points

[AlternativeAcc.]

My rankings

1. Alt Acc
2. South Beach
3. Dankok
4. 87 Lakers
5. Arb Water
6. Post




I think 87 Lakers bench really hurts him. Only 2 great shot creators in Bron and Kyrie. Klay isn't enough to make up for it because every team has elite shooters.

Arb Water lacking in defense. Booker the best shot creator, I have 3 guys better


I think I have the best mixture of perimeter defense, switching ability, shot-making, rim-protection, and shooting. If you try to exploit Gobert, I have Horford as a small ball big. Ingram can replace OG if need be in certain instances. I have the fewest weaknesses.

[dankok8]

You have weak shooters

WTF? Did you see my roster.. :lol

[AlternativeAcc.]

1) 1987

C - Dwight Howard | Andrew Bogut
F - LeBron James| Chris Bosh
F - Mikal Bridges | Trevor Ariza
G - Klay Thompson | Kirk Hinrich
G - Kyrie Irving| Mike Conley

weak bench but I think the starting 5 is OP.

Actually, you should put Conley with the starters and Kyrie off the bench.

2) dankok

PG: Jrue Holiday/Deron Williams
SG: Jimmy Butler/Danny Granger
SF: Kevin Durant/Andrew Wiggins
PF: Karl-Anthony Towns/Lamarcus Aldridge
C: Joel Embiid/Brook Lopez

Nasty team, KD surrounded by strong minded tough nosed guys to cover his flaws also. Towns not reay proven. Granger/Wiggins is weak but D-Will, LMA and Brook is real nice.

3) SouBeach

PG: Kyle Lowry / Tyrese Haliburton
SG: Paul George / Jaylen Brown
SF: Jayson Tatum / Andre Iguodala
PF: Giannis / Paul Millsap
C: Marc Gasol / Bam Adebayo

Not really a 2nd Superstar, but basically 8 stars that fit pretty well except PG/Tatum and supreme defense with M Gasol and Iggy while also having scoring in the areas those 2 players operate from.

4) Alternative

G: Damian Lillard / Brandon Roy
G: Dwayne Wade / Desmond Bane
F: Kawhi Leonard / Brandon Ingram
F: OG Anunoby / Luol Deng
C: Rudy Gobert / Al Horford

Sorry bro, but the bench is weak and even the starters have 2 role payers. 3 beasts and the rest is fringe all stars to good role payers. Also the 3 beasts all do the same, essentially.

5) post

fun team but yeah


1987 = 6 points
dankok = 5 points
SouBeach = 4 points
Alternative = 3 points
post = 2 points

What's weak about my bench?

Brandon Roy elite all-around, Bane 43% from 3, can create his own shot, good defender, 21ppg, Ingram insanely smooth on offense, can do everything, 23ppg. Luol elite defender who spaces the floor, great passer. Horford elite defender, great passer, spaces the floor at the 5 position

[AlternativeAcc.]

WTF? Did you see my roster.. :lol

Lol yeah, overall you have better shooters. Towns and Embiid would be a strange duo though, too slow. I think my D wouldn't have a problem, OG and Kawhi would cover Towns easily on the perimeter, Towns on the other end would be exploited

[ArbitraryWater]

What's weak about my bench?

Brandon Roy elite all-around, Bane 43% from 3, can create his own shot, good defender, 21ppg, Ingram insanely smooth on offense, can do everything, 23ppg. Luol elite defender who spaces the floor, great passer. Horford elite defender, great passer, spaces the floor at the 5 position

These are nice but your best payer is Brandon Roy who is a bit worse than Deron Williams. Ingram is nice but brings no other value outside of his scoring.

These are all nice, but compared to the other benches I see them as the worst.

[John8204]

For my ten picks

C - Blake Griffin/Steve Adams
PF - Zion Williamson/ Serge Ibaka
SF - Demar Derozan/Kyle Korver
SG - Ja Morant/Tre Young
PG - Rajan Rondo/Fred Vanvleet

[ArbitraryWater]

My rankings

1. Alt Acc
2. South Beach
3. Dankok
4. 87 Lakers
5. Arb Water
6. Post




I think 87 Lakers bench really hurts him. Only 2 great shot creators in Bron and Kyrie. Klay isn't enough to make up for it because every team has elite shooters.


You know damn well that Bron alone with Klay and Dwight would wreck teams. PEAK BRON. Hes the cheatcode pick.

You had to **** up a bit not to win with the first pick, and I dont think 1987 ****ed up. He made sensible decisions around him.

[John8204]

His best call was having his alt account pick second and disappear...taking Curry off the board was smart

[AlternativeAcc.]

These are nice but your best payer is Brandon Roy who is a bit worse than Deron Williams. Ingram is nice but brings no other value outside of his scoring.

These are all nice, but compared to the other benches I see them as the worst.

Lol if we judge by "best player" than I have 2 guys better than your best... Roy and Deron have different skillsets. Roy is a much better pure shooter and scorer, and much bigger.

The bench is supposed to aid the starting lineup and fill in for weaknesses. Ingram can sub for OG if I need a bit more scoring/shot creating at the position. Bane gives you instant spacing. Horford can replace Gobert at times when needed.

I couldve drafted Beal, Wall, Griffin, Rose, etc and said I have better players at every position. But we know that's not how it works.

[AlternativeAcc.]

You know damn well that Bron alone with Klay and Dwight would wreck teams. PEAK BRON. Hes the cheatcode pick.

You had to **** up a bit not to win with the first pick, and I dont think 1987 ****ed up. He made sensible decisions around him.

Dwight is more of a defensive pick and I like it. When you have amazing perimeter defenders like I have (Wade on Klay) it nullifies him. My guys are highly switchable so you can't just set screens and expect guys to get open. He's lacking in go-to scorers. I could force the ball out of LeBron's hands and make Irving be the guy.. it's more of a Luka/Kyrie situation there... I think you need one more elite shot creator

[1987_Lakers]

We have the Wade stopper Hinrich to lock Wade up.

[AlternativeAcc.]

We have the Wade stopper Hinrich to lock Wade up.

Forcing you to play Hinrich is a win, you have to take Irving or Klay off the court which significantly lowers your offensive capability

[ArbitraryWater]

Lol if we judge by "best player" than I have 2 guys better than your best... Roy and Deron have different skillsets. Roy is a much better pure shooter and scorer, and much bigger.

The bench is supposed to aid the starting lineup and fill in for weaknesses. Ingram can sub for OG if I need a bit more scoring/shot creating at the position. Bane gives you instant spacing. Horford can replace Gobert at times when needed.

I couldve drafted Beal, Wall, Griffin, Rose, etc and said I have better players at every position. But we know that's not how it works.

Im not basing it off best payer, just saying, if Brandon Roy is your best guy off the bench, you dont have a good bench at this level.


As for those players, Beal WOUD have made your team better. The rest are one dimensional and dont maximize a team in todays game. We know that. No one has those guys.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Im not basing it off best payer, just saying, if Brandon Roy is your best guy off the bench, you dont have a good bench at this level.

I would take prime Roy over SGA or Mitchell in a heartbeat though, and many others would too. Stats don't really tell the story here.

It's about being able to stagger minutes, at any given time I have at least 2 elite creators, 2 elite shooters, 2 elite perimieter defenders. Your starting lineup would get torn up on defense and you don't have the guys on the bench to even make up for it. Mitchell is one of the worst defenders in the league, MPJ isn't good.

I have the elite scoring to go along with the elite defense, and guys on the bench who can blend well. I really dont see Booker/Middleton fairing too well against Wade/Kawhi/OG. But I see Lillard, Wade, and Kawhi toying with those guys

[dankok8]

1) SouBeachTalents

PG: Kyle Lowry / Tyrese Haliburton
SG: Paul George / Jaylen Brown
SF: Jayson Tatum / Andre Iguodala
PF: Giannis / Paul Millsap
C: Marc Gasol / Bam Adebayo

The best team of the bunch IMO. Great shooting, multiple playmakers (including an elite playmaker from the middle in Gasol). and extremely strong defensively. Very balanced and would synergize well.

2) 1987_Lakers

C - Dwight Howard | Andrew Bogut
F - LeBron James| Chris Bosh
F - Mikal Bridges | Trevor Ariza
G - Klay Thompson | Kirk Hinrich
G - Kyrie Irving| Mike Conley

Like others said bench is weak and the lumbering Howard will take up space in the middle that Lebron needs. SF position with Mikal and Ariza also weak. Overall though Lebron plus shooters and good defense means this team is the 2nd best. After all you can rely more on the starters.

3) AlternativeAcc

G: Damian Lillard / Brandon Roy
G: Dwayne Wade / Desmond Bane
F: Kawhi Leonard / Brandon Ingram
F: OG Anunoby / Luol Deng
C: Rudy Gobert / Al Horford

This team is unorthodox with very small PF's and no traditional PG but they have Wade to run the offense. I'd probably start Horford but either way the frontcourt can be exploited. And if Wade is out this team will struggle to manufacture easy shots. But with Wade on and small ball pushing the pace they can be tough to handle. If anything I think this team would rock in earlier more physical eras.

4) ArbitraryWater

PG: James Harden / SGA
SG: Devin Booker / Donovan Mitchell
SF: Khris Middleton / Michael Porter Jr.
PF: Lauri Markannen / Pascal Siakam
C: Anthony Davis / Andrew Bynum

This team is lacking defensively and while they'll put up a bunch of points especially with SGA and Mitchell off the bench, they won't be able to get stops. I don't see how this team beats other teams that can also score but have multiple good defenders.

5) post

nikola jokic/joakim noah
draymond green/jaren jackson jr.
danny green/robert covington
victor oladipo/derrick white
chris paul/alex caruso

SG and SF position are really weak and not that much shooting. Feel weird saying it in a draft like this but this team isn't that good offensively. CP3, Jokic and a bunch of ok offensive players. And the defense isn't good enough to make up for it.

[post]

https://i.ibb.co/DCT8pVq/dog-blah-blah-blah-1.gif

[ArbitraryWater]

Guys, the best offenses win championships. Not the best defenses.


I have enough capable defenders anyway but my offense first unit and second unit woud run circles around any other contemporary units bar the Bron/Klay/Dwight one.

You guys think too complicated.


I could have drafted Dragic and Iggy instead and yall would have gone "whoah such diversity and defense now very good" lol

[ArbitraryWater]

I would take prime Roy over SGA or Mitchell in a heartbeat though, and many others would too. Stats don't really tell the story here.


https://media.tenor.com/cJHTR7-0tr0AAAAM/nah-jake-gyllenhaal.gif

[AlternativeAcc.]

Guys, the best offenses win championships. Not the best defenses.


I have enough capable defenders anyway but my offense first unit and second unit woud run circles around any other contemporary units bar the Bron/Klay/Dwight one.

You guys think too complicated.


I could have drafted Dragic and Iggy instead and yall would have gone "whoah such diversity and defense now very good" lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/rmstdg/24_of_the_last_26_nba_champions_were_top_10_in/

Data says otherwise

Your team is by far the worst defensively and really not that great offensively. The only player you have with a notable playoff run is Davis.. next to LeBron

You'd be relying on Harden and Booker against the best of the best defenders. Not great man.

[ArbitraryWater]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/rmstdg/24_of_the_last_26_nba_champions_were_top_10_in/

Data says otherwise

Your team is by far the worst defensively and really not that great offensively. The only player you have with a notable playoff run is Davis.. next to LeBron

You'd be relying on Harden and Booker against the best of the best defenders. Not great man.


Its actuay tied 19-19 over the ast 40 years in terms of higher orank/d-rank:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/jk7jti/the_last_40_years_of_the_nba_champions_and_the/

didnt know that. Interesting.

Not that great offensivey is a wid caim.

I have about 5 superstar scorers that can create their shot and none of which over-dribbe. And more compimentary scorers on post presences that can score as we.

The notabe payoff run thing seems pretty out there. By what definition? By purey championship runs? Thats too circumstantia.

2019 Harden wasnt worse than 2019 eonard, he just faced a different GSW for 4 games. Kawhi hasnt come cose to eading a tite team outside of 2019 when a ot of things went his way. KD outside of GSW which won without him? Hasnt won one either.

Harden made b2b CFs basicay but ran into the most oaded team ever. Book ed a team to the finas. Davis co-ran a tite team.

Soid enough.

We view it differenty but I know with the bench I have, Id run most teams out the gym here.

[ArbitraryWater]

Anyway, can SouBeach give his ranking so we can put a wrap on this?


Nikka been real quiet

[SaltyMeatballs]

Had a rough couple of days lately. Sorry I wasn't able to participate for the remainder of the draft

[ArbitraryWater]

Hope all is good now!

Ay, you should judge the teams if you want.

[zeerghit]

Hope all is good now!

Ay, you should judge the teams if you want.

you still gonna be 5th:lol

[ArbitraryWater]

you still gonna be 5th:lol

:oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

1. 1987 Lakers

C - Dwight Howard | Andrew Bogut
F - LeBron James| Chris Bosh
F - Mikal Bridges | Trevor Ariza
G - Klay Thompson | Kirk Hinrich
G - Kyrie Irving| Mike Conley

It's close between the top 3 teams, but I'd say this is the best team of the draft. Having LeBron in this specific format is as big of an advantage as someone can get. Having the guy drafting directly behind you go MIA midway through the draft doesn't hurt either :lol And overall the starting 5 is great. Personally, while I'm sure they could still make it work, I'm not a huge fan of the LeBron/Dwight pairing offensively, he provides zero spacing and could potentially clog up the lane when LeBron attempts to drive. The bench is also pretty forgettable.

2. AltAcc

G: Damian Lillard / Brandon Roy
G: Dwayne Wade / Desmond Bane
F: Kawhi Leonard / Brandon Ingram
F: OG Anunoby / Luol Deng
C: Rudy Gobert / Al Horford

Kawhi/Wade/Lillard is a pretty sick big 3, though throwing in Dame on top of Kawhi/Wade could potentially be too many perimeter scorers for one lineup. And while you certainly wouldn't need it, you're really not gonna get much offense at all out of your frontcourt, and your PF's are pretty undersized. Roy/Bane/Horford are great assets off the bench though.

3. Dankok

PG: Jrue Holiday/Deron Williams
SG: Jimmy Butler/Danny Granger
SF: Kevin Durant/Andrew Wiggins
PF: Karl-Anthony Towns/Lamarcus Aldridge
C: Joel Embiid/Brook Lopez

A very talented starting 5, KD/Embiid is a sick duo and you have a great defensive backcourt. I'm not crazy about the KAT/Embiid pairing though, and Butler might not be a great fit due to his lack of shooting and ball dominance. I do like D-Will/Aldridge/Lopez off the bench though.

4. AW

PG: James Harden / SGA
SG: Devin Booker / Donovan Mitchell
SF: Khris Middleton / Michael Porter Jr.
PF: Lauri Markannen / Pascal Siakam
C: Anthony Davis / Andrew Bynum

Just WAY too many chefs in the kitchen with that backcourt lol. Four 30 ppg scorers is beyond excessive, esp when they wouldn't even be that cohesive together or play well defensively. And I'm just not a big fan of Harden in these games, way too ball dominant for my liking, and he's shown consistently throughout his career he plays worse in the playoffs as the competition toughens.

5. Post

A farting sound would suffice.

[SaltyMeatballs]

1. SouBeachTalents
2. 1987_Lakers
3. AltAcc
4. dankok
5. AW
6. Post

[post]

https://streamable.com/x1l29x

[AlternativeAcc.]

People mentioning my lack of size in the front court, but that is exactly how the game is played today.

Look at the Warriors vs Celtics last year, Celtics success came when they went small with Al as the lone big man surrounded by perimeter guys. The vast majority of both teams scoring was perimeter based.... that is simply what succeeds in this league

Having OG, Kawhi, Deng, Horford as a rotation is a huge strength and not a weakness. The spacing on offense and the switching on defense was always the goal, and those advantages far outweigh the perceived defensive liability of having "smaller" PFs.... although that's overblown as Deng is 6'9 and OG is 6'7 235. They're perfectly sized PFs for this era

Having Gobert is more of a fail safe... elite rim protection is still valuable... but it's far better to surround that with switchabitliy and spacing as opposed to the way a traditional PF might play.

[1987_Lakers]

Current vote tally at realgm

1. 1987_Lakers: 11 votes
2. Soubeachtalents: 6 votes
3. Dankok: 4 votes
4. AtlerativeAcc: 3 votes
5 and 6. Post & ArbitraryWater: 0 votes

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2272501

[post]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DO0kxKMHIA

[1987_Lakers]

Realgm comments

"Team 3 is mine and I might be biased but I think it's between Team 3 and Team 6.

OP didn't state this but the draft was done for today's era. "Which team would be best in today's era..." Team 4 has a lumbering Howard taking up space in the paint for Lebron, weak at SF and weak bench."

"Team Four is a comfortable step above every other team."

"Team 4 and it’s not even close.
The best player.
The best defensive player.
The best 3 point shooter since there is no Curry.
The best handles.

Not close."

"Team 4 is so stacked. You can get rid of lebron James and still be the best team."

"How are you picking these rosters? Team 4 gets 4x #1 picks, and no other team gets more than 2, with some getting 0?

Doesn't seem very balanced."

"I can’t believe team 6 isn’t getting more love. Which BTW I would start:

C: Bam (100% rim D, put backs and hustle plays)
F: Giannis
F: Tatum
G: Brown (history with Tatum)
G: Hali (pass first big PG)

Then the bench would be sick - vet deep. Which is why I think team 6 is the choice.
C: Gasol (more minutes than Bam, 2-way focused)
F: Millsap
F: George (ultimate do all 6th man)
G: Iggy
G: Lowry"

"Prime LeBron and Prime Dwight Howard who cares about the other teams honestly.

Ain't nobody beating them. And adding Klay and Kyrie?!"

"Team #4 and it’s not even close , just hand them the trophies"

"4 or 6. Voted 6 in a close call. I think those two teams are a solid step ahead of the others."

"Team 4 but you have to switch Bridges and Bosh."

[SouBeachTalents]

"Team 4 is so stacked. You can get rid of lebron James and still be the best team."
:kobe:

[1987_Lakers]

Why is it everytime we make a realgm poll in these drafts it seems like me and Soubeachtalents finish above the rest? :lol

Way I would rank these teams not including mine.

1. Soubeachtalents - Great mix of everything. Shooting, scoring, defense etc

Tied for 2. Dankok & Alternative Acc. Both teams are pretty equal in my eyes, both very solid teams with some minor questionable fits.

4. AW - Sorry bud, but your backcourt is way overkill with the scoring like SouBeach said, defense also not impressive.

5. Post - Not enough talent overall.

[ArbitraryWater]

Man ya trippin


The backcourt works well together. None of them are redundant. Whats wrong with having 20 30 ppg scorers on at the same time? :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

Man ya trippin


The backcourt works well together. None of them are redundant. Whats wrong with having 20 30 ppg scorers on at the same time? :oldlol:
It's unanimous bro :lol Not counting the clown team, you've finished last in every ranking that's been done and haven't received a single vote in the RealGM poll. It is what it is.

[ArbitraryWater]

It's unanimous bro :lol Not counting the clown team, you've finished last in every ranking that's been done and haven't received a single vote in the RealGM poll. It is what it is.

too many ppl thinking theyre smart "hmm ive detected too many amazing scorers, this cant work well" :lol

[1987_Lakers]

too many ppl thinking theyre smart "hmm ive detected too many amazing scorers, this cant work well" :lol


The problem is Harden is one of them and he is extremely ball-dominant which in turn takes away some value from your other perimeter players who need the ball. Your entire backcourt doesn't provide much defense either. The versatility isn't there.

[1987_Lakers]

All-time draft, Top 75 draft, or 2003-present draft. It doesn't matter, I come out on top.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbNlQznX0AEejSE.jpg:large

:pimp:

In all seriousness, it was fun guys.

[Wally450]

I don't care to go back and find the post, but did I read that someone said LeBron playing with Dwight would cause a spacing problem? Like he didn't play with Joel Anthony and Tristan Thompson down there. Prime Dwight would be a nightmare offensively and defensively for opposing teams.

[ArbitraryWater]

The problem is Harden is one of them and he is extremely ball-dominant which in turn takes away some value from your other perimeter players who need the ball. Your entire backcourt doesn't provide much defense either. The versatility isn't there.

Book is a quick scorer. Then you have AD living off Hardens penetration.

Harden worked with an acual PG Chris Pau, but hed be too ball dominant to work with Booker?

Thats stupid. In all likelihood, Id run every team bar Bron/Dwight out the gym.

[dankok8]

I don't care to go back and find the post, but did I read that someone said LeBron playing with Dwight would cause a spacing problem? Like he didn't play with Joel Anthony and Tristan Thompson down there. Prime Dwight would be a nightmare offensively and defensively for opposing teams.

For today's NBA on which the draft is based, it's not optimal to play Dwight because he clogs the lane. If he could pass well out of the post and hit the likes of Kyrie and Klay for open threes when doubled he could still work but as is Dwight would give the team no lift offensively.

The NBA 6+ years ago was quite different... I think Dwight is a significantly worse player in today's NBA.

[1987_Lakers]

I don't care to go back and find the post, but did I read that someone said LeBron playing with Dwight would cause a spacing problem? Like he didn't play with Joel Anthony and Tristan Thompson down there. Prime Dwight would be a nightmare offensively and defensively for opposing teams.

And past prime Dwight & McGee in 2020. :lol

I surrounded LeBron with shooters from every position besides the C spot, all of them excluding Kyrie can play defense at a high level. I think I did a good job drafting players that fit with LeBron.

Reason why I didn't draft more scorers from the bench spot is because I was worried about how they would fit with LeBron. Jaylen Brown for example is a great player, but a bit of a ball stopper and has tunnel vision, he can work very well with a player like KD, but not sure how it would mesh with LeBron when I already have Kyrie, which is why I drafted a sizable portion of 3 and D players. When you already have LeBron, Kyrie, Klay, & Bosh, there isn't anymore need to get more scorers. And LeBron himself will feed those 3 and D players all day, Hinrich probably averages 20 in today's game with his shooting ability.

[1987_Lakers]

For today's NBA on which the draft is based, it's not optimal to play Dwight because he clogs the lane.


Warriors just won a championship starting Draymond & Looney.

[dankok8]

Warriors just won a championship starting Draymond & Looney.

Draymond doesn't clog the lane and Looney played 20 mins a game.

Anyways we are talking about a draft where all of our teams are stacked. Fit matters.

[1987_Lakers]

Draymond doesn't clog the lane and Looney played 20 mins a game.

Anyways we are talking about a draft where all of our teams are stacked. Fit matters.

Which is why my team finished with the most votes on realgm

[dankok8]

Which is why my team finished with the most votes on realgm

Or maybe not...

[1987_Lakers]

Final vote tally

1. 1987_Lakers: 12 votes
2. Soubeachtalents: 9 votes
3. Dankok: 4 votes
4. AtlerativeAcc: 3 votes
5. Post: 1 vote
6. ArbitraryWater: 0 votes

[AlternativeAcc.]

My teams are always too good for the average fan/poster to really understand or appreciate.


If you don't have lebron or Jordan you're just not getting votes lol, I think this is the third draft where that's happened

Not hating on 87 lakers because obviously has a high iq. But being able to get away with drafting Hinrich, Ariza, bogut... come on man:D. Even bridges was a 14ppg guy last year next to booker/cp3.

It's a solid team but southbeach made a perfect pick almost every time. Surrounded Giannis with elite 3 point shooters at every position and they're all two-way stars.

[AlternativeAcc.]

And past prime Dwight & McGee in 2020. :lol

I surrounded LeBron with shooters from every position besides the C spot, all of them excluding Kyrie can play defense at a high level. I think I did a good job drafting players that fit with LeBron.

Reason why I didn't draft more scorers from the bench spot is because I was worried about how they would fit with LeBron. Jaylen Brown for example is a great player, but a bit of a ball stopper and has tunnel vision, he can work very well with a player like KD, but not sure how it would mesh with LeBron when I already have Kyrie, which is why I drafted a sizable portion of 3 and D players. When you already have LeBron, Kyrie, Klay, & Bosh, there isn't anymore need to get more scorers. And LeBron himself will feed those 3 and D players all day, Hinrich probably averages 20 in today's game with his shooting ability.
The problem with only having lebron/kyrie as the only shot creators is that every other team has 5+ and you cant just rely on lebron.


2017 cavs vs warriors is how that played out. Lebron was surrounded with kyrie, jr Smith, love, Korver.... a bunch of 3 point shooters. It wasn't enough vs a super team


If either lebron/kyrie sit you only have one shot creator on the floor. If they both sit you have no offense.

[post]

Asked whether he found it funny that Jokic’s defense was a consistent talking point when critiquing the reigning two-time MVP, Murray was dismissive of the premise.

“They’re just going off visuals,” Murray said. “They don’t really know basketball or watch basketball.”

but yeah

grrr women or something