Jordan on why he is not the goat

[Bacchus]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xa0O43r6nNk

[3ba11]

Guys like Wilt, Shaq, Giannis, Lebron, Dominique, Zion, Kemp, Dr. J - none of them were goat-level shooters - the only goat-level athlete that was also a goat-level shooter was MJ, who was arguably the goat mid-range shooter (goat 2-point shooter).. He had goat form and touch on his jumper, which is unique among goat-level athletes, and he shot at today's standard from 3 whenever he had meaningful volume or more than bailout volume (more than 1.5 attempts)

Given his goat combination of athletic ability and shooting, he would completely dominate any era and is likely the GOAT.. If everyone was given 1000 randomly-selected supporting casts, he would win the most chips because his skillsete combined a goat production rate (dominance) with goat chemistry and strategic capacity. His expert jumpshooting skill and great combination of assisted rate/unassisted rate allowed the best teammate development, fits and strategoc capacity/coaching)

[SouBeachTalents]

Guys like Wilt, Shaq, Giannis, Lebron, Dominique, Zion, Kemp, Dr. J - none of them were goat-level shooters - the only goat-level athlete that was also a goat-level shooter was MJ, who was arguably the goat mid-range shooter (goat 2-point shooter).. He had goat form and touch on his jumper, which is unique among goat-level athletes, and he shot at today's standard from 3 whenever he had meaningful volume or more than bailout volume (more than 1.5 attempts)

Given his goat combination of athletic ability and shooting, he would completely dominate any era and is likely the GOAT.. If everyone was given 1000 randomly-selected supporting casts, he would win the most chips because his skillsete combined a goat production rate (dominance) with goat chemistry and strategic capacity (allowed great strategy/coaching)
You better hope Pippen is apart of one of those 1000 supporting casts, otherwise, you might not even get a winning record :(

[3ba11]

You better hope Pippen is apart of one of those 1000 supporting casts, otherwise, you might not even get a winning record :(


MJ was 30-12 without Pippen from 88-98' and when did Lebron receive an 8 ppg rookie where everyone said "Okay we're set!!!.. Lebron has what he needs!!!

That didn't happen for Jordan either when the Bulls drafted Pippen in 88' and the Bulls were considered the worst cast in the league.

So MJ lost to dynasties with horrible casts, while Lebron lost to a 1-star team as a massive favorite with homecourt advantage twice (2009, 2011).. Lebron lost as the favorite OR with poor performance every year from 2007-2011, while MJ never did either (never lost as favorite or with poor performance).

History shows that Lebron ran from fossils that were 32-34 years old in 2010 (KG/Pierce/Ray), while MJ beat Isiah, Dumars and Rodman when they were 27-29 years old and favored to 3-peat heading into the 91' season.. People forget that KG was a 14/7 bum post-injury and the 50-win Celtics were big underdogs to league favorite Cavs in 2010 (Year 7 organic juggernaut).

Furthermore, the 2009 Magic were missing their all-star point guard in the ECF (Jameer Nelson), so Dwight had the injury excuse but still won.. Mo averaged 18 on 38%, so Lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick - he's too ball-dominant at carry-job volume to beat top teams, so he needs all-time scoring help like AD, Wade or Kyrie and can't win with the secondary producers that expert jumpshooters win with (WIggins, Pippen, Jason Terry, Lowry, Pau, Klay

[SouBeachTalents]

MJ was 30-12 without Pippen from 88-98' and when did Lebron receive an 8 ppg rookie where everyone said "Okay we're set!!!.. Lebron has what he needs!!!

That didn't happen for Jordan either when the Bulls drafted Pippen in 88' and the Bulls were considered the worst cast in the league.

So MJ lost to dynasties with horrible casts, while Lebron lost to a 1-star team as a massive favorite with homecourt advantage twice (2009, 2011).. Lebron lost as the favorite OR with poor performance every year from 2007-2011, while MJ never did either (never lost as favorite or with poor performance).

History shows that Lebron ran from fossils that were 32-34 years old in 2010 (KG/Pierce/Ray), while MJ beat Isiah, Dumars and Rodman when they were 27-29 years old and favored to 3-peat heading into the 91' season.. People forget that KG was a 14/7 bum post-injury and the 50-win Celtics were big underdogs to league favorite Cavs in 2010 (Year 7 organic juggernaut).

Furthermore, the 2009 Magic were missing their all-star point guard in the ECF (Jameer Nelson), so Dwight had the injury excuse but still won.. Mo averaged 18 on 38%, so Lebron never beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick - he's too ball-dominant at carry-job volume to beat top teams, so he needs all-time scoring help like AD, Wade or Kyrie and can't win with the secondary producers that expert jumpshooters win with (WIggins, Pippen, Jason Terry, Lowry, Pau, Klay
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[3ba11]

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All the 90's 1st options like Malone, Barkley, and Zo had all-time floor generals as sidekick, while MJ was stuck with Pippen's non-elite APG.

Among notable 90's sidekicks, Pippen had the worst passing, efficiency, spacing, clutch and peak capability (not on scouting report accoring to Shaq)..

Accordingly, the proper way to perceive MJ/Pippen is that MJ was simply good enough to win with Pippen's decade-worst passing and efficiency among 90's sidekicks - the resulting winning spotlight is why Pippen started making All-NBA in 1992 (5th season).. Compare this trajectory to 4th-year Jamal Murray from the 2020 Playoffs - Jokic wasn't good enough to win with Murray's 27/5/7 on 63% true shooting, so Murray wasn't elevated to media accolade thereafter like Pippen.. This is just a simple example but it applies to anyone that fails to win with Iggy-caliber help from the sidekick.

[SouBeachTalents]

All the 90's 1st options like Malone, Barkley, and Zo had all-time floor generals as sidekick, while MJ was stuck with Pippen's non-elite APG.

Among notable 90's sidekicks, Pippen had the worst passing, efficiency, spacing, clutch and peak capability (not on scouting report accoring to Shaq)..

Accordingly, the proper way to perceive MJ/Pippen is that MJ was simply good enough to win with Pippen's decade-worst passing and efficiency among 90's sidekicks - the resulting winning spotlight is why Pippen started making All-NBA in 1992 (5th season).. Compare this trajectory to 4th-year Jamal Murray from the 2020 Playoffs - Jokic wasn't good enough to win with Murray's 27/5/7 on 63% true shooting, so Murray wasn't elevated to media accolade thereafter like Pippen.. This is just a simple example but it applies to anyone that fails to win with Iggy-caliber help from the sidekick.
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[3ba11]

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Unlike rookie MJ, Lebron avoided the 8 vs 1 matchup in 04' and 05' by waiting 3 years to make the 06' Playoffs as a veteran, high seed with all-star teammates, decorated acquisitions and a future HOF coach.. So "1-9" erroneously compares Year 1 eight seeds to Year 3 high seeds... But in MJ's 3rd healthy season (88'), he made 2nd Round just like 06' Lebron.

Stats tell the story instead of me.. They confirm that MJ nearly beat the Bad Boys in 1990 w/ less help on both sides of ball than 06-10' Cavs - this includes the #19 defense vs top 10 for the Cavs and less offensive help (Pippen had less PER, WS, PPG & efficiency than all-stars Zydrunas/Mo or Hughes/Jamison acquisitions)

[SouBeachTalents]

Unlike rookie MJ, Lebron avoided the 8 vs 1 matchup in 04' and 05' by waiting 3 years to make the 06' Playoffs as a veteran, high seed with all-star teammates, decorated acquisitions and a future HOF coach.. So "1-9" erroneously compares Year 1 eight seeds to Year 3 high seeds... But in MJ's 3rd healthy season (88'), he made 2nd Round just like 06' Lebron.

Stats confirm that MJ nearly beat the Bad Boys in 1990 w/ less help on both sides of ball than 06-10' Cavs - this includes the #19 defense vs top 10 for the Cavs and less offensive help (less PER, WS, PPG & efficiency from Pip than all-stars Zydrunas/Mo or Hughes acquisition)
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[3ba11]

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MJ would never have the "worst Finals team ever" with the East all-star center and this acquisition:

05' HUGHES.... 21.6 PER.. 4.3 BPM.. 0.157 WS/48.. 3.7 VORP... 22/6/5.. 1st Team All-D
90' PIPPEN...... 16.3 PER.. 1.8 BPM.. 0.087 WS/48.. 3.0 VORP... 16/6/5.. No All-D


Stats confirm that MJ nearly beat the Bad Boys in 1990 w/ less help on both sides of ball than 06-10' Cavs - this includes the #19 defense vs top 10 for the Cavs and less offensive help (Pippen had less PER, WS, PPG & efficiency than all-stars Zydrunas/Mo or Hughes/Jamison acquisitions)

[SouBeachTalents]

MJ would never have the "worst Finals team ever" with the East all-star center and this acquisition:

05' HUGHES.... 21.6 PER.. 4.3 BPM.. 0.157 WS/48.. 3.7 VORP... 22/6/5.. 1st Team All-D
90' PIPPEN...... 16.3 PER.. 1.8 BPM.. 0.087 WS/48.. 3.0 VORP... 16/6/5.. No All-D
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[3ba11]

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Lebron's drive-heavy game and stiff arm needs elite spacing to be MVP or have a contender, whereas MJ won with the biggest lane-clogger ever (https://i.ibb.co/qBBHvB1/chrome-d-EXe-R4x-E8t.jpg) because his expert jumpshooting skill could shoot over defenses and didn't need spacing nearly as much

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron's drive-heavy game and stiff arm needs elite spacing to be MVP or have a contender, whereas MJ won with the biggest lane-clogger ever (https://i.ibb.co/qBBHvB1/chrome-d-EXe-R4x-E8t.jpg) because his expert jumpshooting skill could shoot over defenses and didn't need spacing nearly as much
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[3ba11]

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Here's Pippen admitting to Rachel Nichols that he couldn't win with the best centers of the 90's (could only win with MJ) because he couldn't provide the shooting & spacing required of a center-focused offense (or that ball-dominators require) - he compares himself to a bad Westbrick fit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmBbmIE_Kxc&t=114s


Lebron's skillset of abnormal ball-dominance for his size and position imposes spot-up roles that stalls young players like Ingram, Pippen, Hughes, Kuzma, Bosh and more, so Pip would never develop alongside Lebron.. Anyone that wasn't already an elite shooter (Mo/Kyrie) will see their stats decline alongside Lebron.

[SouBeachTalents]

Here's Pippen admitting to Rachel Nichols that he couldn't win with the best centers of the 90's (could only win with MJ) because he couldn't provide the shooting & spacing required of a center-focused offense (or that ball-dominators require) - he compares himself to a bad Westbrick fit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmBbmIE_Kxc&t=114s
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[3ba11]

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Pippen was gifted a fully-grown, 3-peat dynast and could never grow a team from infancy like 06' Lebron or 88' Jordan - no team with Pippen as the best scorer could grow out of infancy and he did the opposite by destroying a 3-peat dynasty QUICKLY to borderline .500 before MJ returned in 95'.


PIPPEN HAD THE WORST EFFICIENCY AND SPACING:

https://i.ibb.co/qBBHvB1/chrome-d-EXe-R4x-E8t.jpg


WORST CLUTCH:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg_-JIbekYM&t=259s
https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-04-2022/B-6qB7.gif
https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-21-2021/cKS3B2.gif
https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2021/LCBZJA.gif


LOWEST PEAK CAPABILITY (NOT ON SCOUTING REPORT):

https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-27-2022/qrDm8n.gif


Pippen's low peak capability meant that MJ faced maximum defensive attention (carried scoring load) for every season and series of his career, which is unique to Jordan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UF6Xx3F2Lo&t=01m54s


Overall, Pippen averaged 19 on 42% in 6 Finals... 17 on 41% for the entire 96-98' Playoffs including 15.7 on 34% in 96' FInals and nearly the same in 98'... 46% true shooting in the 93' Finals with lower gamescore than Dan Majerle.. Destroyed by Dominique in the 93' 1st Round (Nique doubled his scoring 30 to 15 ppg), so MJ has to carry the load.. Destroyed by X-Man in the 92' 2nd Round, so the Bulls nearly lose in massive upset - Jordan had to famously challenge X-Man face-to-face in Game 7 so Pippen didn't have another migraine.. Choked in 90' ECF with famous "migraine choke".. Kukoc led Pippen in 4th quarter points and also clutch points (last 5 within 5) for the 98' Playoffs.. Kukoc was preferred in the clutch and 2nd half of playoff games - see the 94' 2nd Round meltdown by Pippen.. The historical record shows that Pippen was worse than Jeff Green outside the triangle that he grew up in (system player) - he averaged 14 on 40% in 1999 alongside Hakeem.. Pippen literally said that he didn't fit with Hakeem because he had to shoot too many jumpers - so he admitted that he couldn't win with centers like Hakeem, Ewing or Alonzo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmBbmIE_Kxc&t=114s

[SouBeachTalents]

Pippen was gifted a fully-grown, 3-peat dynast and could never grow a team from infancy like 06' Lebron or 88' Jordan - no team with Pippen as the best scorer could grow out of infancy and he did the opposite by destroying a 3-peat dynasty QUICKLY to borderline .500 before MJ returned in 95'.


PIPPEN HAD THE WORST EFFICIENCY AND SPACING:

https://i.ibb.co/qBBHvB1/chrome-d-EXe-R4x-E8t.jpg


WORST CLUTCH:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg_-JIbekYM&t=259s
https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-04-2022/B-6qB7.gif
https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-21-2021/cKS3B2.gif
https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2021/LCBZJA.gif


LOWEST PEAK CAPABILITY (NOT ON SCOUTING REPORT):

https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-27-2022/qrDm8n.gif


Pippen's low peak capability meant that MJ faced maximum defensive attention (carried scoring load) for every season and series of his career, which is unique to Jordan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UF6Xx3F2Lo&t=01m54s


Overall, Pippen averaged 19 on 42% in 6 Finals... 17 on 41% for the entire 96-98' Playoffs including 15.7 on 34% in 96' FInals and nearly the same in 98'... 46% true shooting in the 93' Finals with lower gamescore than Dan Majerle.. Destroyed by Dominique in the 93' 1st Round (Nique doubled his scoring 30 to 15 ppg), so MJ has to carry the load.. Destroyed by X-Man in the 92' 2nd Round, so the Bulls nearly lose in massive upset - Jordan had to famously challenge X-Man face-to-face in Game 7 so Pippen didn't have another migraine.. Choked in 90' ECF with famous "migraine choke".. Kukoc led Pippen in 4th quarter points and also clutch points (last 5 within 5) for the 98' Playoffs.. Kukoc was preferred in the clutch and 2nd half of playoff games - see the 94' 2nd Round meltdown by Pippen.. The historical record shows that Pippen was worse than Jeff Green outside the triangle that he grew up in (system player) - he averaged 14 on 40% in 1999 alongside Hakeem.. Pippen literally said that he didn't fit with Hakeem because he had to shoot too many jumpers - so he admitted that he couldn't win with centers like Hakeem, Ewing or Alonzo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmBbmIE_Kxc&t=114s
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[Full Court]

For Bronie fluffers who still don't get it, I recommend starting here:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?509969-Verdict-is-in-Jordan-STILL-consensus-GOAT

[3ba11]

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Lebron produced horrible teams in 2005, 2008, 2019 and 2023, but each time the team was completely turned around the following season by all-star acquisitions (09', 20', 23'), or coveted acquisitions & HOF coaches (06').

After his meltdown in the 2010 Playoffs, everyone felt sorry for him and agreed that he was entitled to "sure things" thereafter, which meant that all losses could be blamed on lack of supporting talent or bad fits (aka teammates).. Everyone agreed that he shouldn't have to "figure it out" like other stars by developing chemistry or young teammates into primary contributors.. This isn't coincidence - it's a skillset issue, aka his abnormal ball-dominance for his size and position imposes spot-up roles that stalls young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win..

He's simply BAD at chemistry and certainly doesn't "play all 5 positions" where teammate fits wouldn't be an issue.. Instead, his skill restriction to abnormal ball-dominance (imposing spot-up roles) ties a coach's hands strategically and lacks the teammate development, fits or brand of ball to win organically, thus requiring talent-based winning (all-star team strategy).. He gave up on learning how to win (organic) and only learned how to team-hop (talent-based winning).

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron produced horrible teams in 2005, 2008, 2019 and 2023, but each time the team was completely turned around the following season by all-star acquisitions (09', 20', 23'), or coveted acquisitions & HOF coaches (06').

After his meltdown in the 2010 Playoffs, everyone felt sorry for him and agreed that he was entitled to "sure things" thereafter, which meant that all losses could be blamed on lack of supporting talent or bad fits (aka teammates).. Everyone agreed that he shouldn't have to "figure it out" like other stars by developing chemistry or young teammates into primary contributors.. This isn't coincidence - it's a skillset issue, aka his abnormal ball-dominance for his size and position imposes spot-up roles that stalls young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win.. He's BAD at chemistry and certainly doesn't "play all 5 positions" where teammate fits wouldn't be an issue.. Instead, his skill restriction to abnormal ball-dominance (imposing spot-up roles) ties a coach's hands strategically and lacks the teammate development, fits or brand of ball to win organically, thus requiring talent-based winning (all-star team strategy).. He gave up on learning how to win (organic) and only learned how to team-hop (talent-based winning).
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[1987_Lakers]

lol 3ball using this thread to spread his insanity since he knows he will get banned if he creates a thread.

[3ba11]

lol 3ball using this thread to spread his insanity since he knows he will get banned if he creates a thread.


I provided statistical backup to confirm that Pippen had the worst passing, efficiency, spacing, clutch, and peak capability (not on scouting report) among notable 90's sidekicks.

Who was an all-time floor general and averaged more assists - Pippen or Stockton/Payton/Hardaway/KJ ???

Who had the worst efficiency ever for a playoff run of 15 games and 35 MPG? Who did this twice?

[Full Court]

Funny how Bronies have absolutely no substantive counterarguments to the facts 3ball is spitting. :lol

[Johnny32]

lol 3ball using this thread to spread his insanity since he knows he will get banned if he creates a thread.

lol this.

also on topic. it's easy to pretend to be modest or whatever this is when the casual majority already consider you the goat.

[1987_Lakers]

lol this.


Where are those 3ball gifs with ace ventura?

[Phoenix]

Where are those 3ball gifs with ace ventura?

You rang?

https://i.postimg.cc/44Y4VV6C/3nutball1.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/HLPJdt1m/3nutball3.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/xddkw47g/3nutball2.gif

[ImKobe]

25 years and no one's come close. You know the NBA wants to create another Jordan badly (god knows they've tried) but no one besides Kobe has wanted it as much as he did. It's going to be tough to find another generational athlete with GOAT skills who also has MJ's winner mentality & the ability + durability to perform as consistently as he did.

[1987_Lakers]

You rang?

https://i.postimg.cc/44Y4VV6C/3nutball1.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/HLPJdt1m/3nutball3.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/xddkw47g/3nutball2.gif

:lol

[ShawkFactory]

Funny how Bronies have absolutely no substantive counterarguments to the facts 3ball is spitting. :lol

These are all copy/pasted posts that have been addressed many many times.

[j3lademaster]

I refuse to believe Michael Jordan doesn't think he's the goat.

[And1AllDay]

Unlike rookie MJ, Lebron avoided the 8 vs 1 matchup in 04' and 05' by waiting 3 years to make the 06' Playoffs as a veteran, high seed with all-star teammates, decorated acquisitions and a future HOF coach.. So "1-9" erroneously compares Year 1 eight seeds to Year 3 high seeds... But in MJ's 3rd healthy season (88'), he made 2nd Round just like 06' Lebron.

Stats tell the story instead of me.. They confirm that MJ nearly beat the Bad Boys in 1990 w/ less help on both sides of ball than 06-10' Cavs - this includes the #19 defense vs top 10 for the Cavs and less offensive help (Pippen had less PER, WS, PPG & efficiency than all-stars Zydrunas/Mo or Hughes/Jamison acquisitions)

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[3ba11]

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The historically-backed, proper way to perceive MJ and Pippen is that MJ was good enough to win with Pippen's decade-worst passing and efficiency among 90's sidekicks - the resulting winning spotlight is why Pippen started making All-NBA in 1992 (5th season).. Compare this trajectory to 4th-year Jamal Murray from the 2020 Playoffs - Jokic wasn't good enough to win with Murray's 27/5/7 on 63% true shooting, so Murray wasn't elevated to media accolade thereafter like Pippen.. This is just a simple example but it applies to anyone that fails to win with Iggy-caliber help from the sidekick.

[kawhileonard2]

Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

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[kawhileonard2]

1-9

Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif

[kawhileonard2]

1-9

Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

https://media0.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif

[kawhileonard2]

1-9

Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

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[Manny98]

This thread holy shit :roll::roll::roll:

3ball and kawhileonard 2 can't be real people right, they have to be robots or something

[kawhileonard2]

This thread holy shit :roll:

3ball and kawhileonard 2 can't be real people right, they have to be robots or something

Need an answer on each thread below.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT

Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher

Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2


Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED

Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.


Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html

And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster
He has peak Anthony Davis, the best player on the 2020 squad and the reason the Lakers did anything as the 2019 Lakers missed the playoffs and 2021 Lakers lost in round 1 when AD wasn't around. He has Prime Melo who won a scoring title and all time leader in scoring for the Olympics. He has Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY and a guy who beat Lebron without HCA. He has Westbrook who is the modern day Oscar Robertson and also won league mvp along with average a Triple Double 4 years in a row. He also has Rondo who is a hall of famer.

Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10? Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head

Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron


Devin Booker broke Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503966-3ball-why-can-LeBron-win-with-Irving-but-KD-can-t&p=14584482#post14584482

Lebron won bronze medal twice and lost with HCA 3x. Jordan only won gold medal and never lost with HCA. Prove me wrong!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats

Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600


How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry

Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360


Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.

Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.



LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming

https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:

http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html


First Time Ever a team with 2 guys who won MVP missed the playoffs
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503543-First-Time-Ever-a-team-with-2-guys-who-won-MVP-missed-the-playoffs


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?503981-Why-does-Lebron-have-2-bronze-medals-while-KD-only-has-gold-medals&p=14584371#post14584371

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[FKAri]

Need an answer on each thread below.
Because LeBron's the GOAT