LeBron would destroy 1990's according to JJ Reddick

[Lebron23]

https://youtu.be/r6woleLNeRw


JJ Reddick made a lot of sense instead of Past NBA legends attacking his NBA Career. They just needs to answer his questions without name calling, and acting like little children. Reddick had a solid NBA career. He would be a solid 2nd or 3rd scoring option in 1990's and a much deadlier 3 point shooter without the zone defense.

[RRR3]

LeBron would destroy any era.

[Lebron23]

LeBron would destroy any era.

Indeed

[StrongLurk]

He still wouldn't be better than Michael Jordan which is really what is being talked about here.

[Spurs m8]

No one cares

The feather would retire coz he's too soft

[SouBeachTalents]

The better question is how would he do on the 90’s Jazz.

[3ba11]

We aren't animals on this forum - we're human beings that can deduce things based on obvious logic, so we don't have to guess..

We know that the drive-heavy game of today's ball-dominators needs spacing, which is exactly what previous eras lack..

So spotty-shooting ball-dominators like Luka, Lebron, Westbrook or SGA wouldn't have the spacing that they need to play their best game, while expert jumpshooters like Kobe, MJ or Curry can shoot over defenses and still play their best game.

In addition to lacking the spacing, today's ball-dominators would get physically hurt when attacking the rim - hard fouls like this (https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-26-2022/SHB07h.gif) were standard and this physicality coupled with the lack of spacing would turn Lebron or Luka into passive facilitators like Kidd or Magic.

Accordingly, we can assume that Lebron would play below MVP-caliber like 2008 before he received all-star spacing he needs in 2009.. It all adds up.. We don't have to act like animals like we can't figure out what would happen based on deduction and reason - that's the difference between us and animals.

[ShawkFactory]

We aren't animals on this forum - we're human beings that can deduce things based on obvious logic, so we don't have to guess..

We know that the drive-heavy game of today's ball-dominators needs spacing, which is exactly what previous eras lack..

So spotty-shooting ball-dominators like Luka, Lebron, Westbrook or SGA wouldn't have the spacing that they need to play their best game, while expert jumpshooters like Kobe, MJ or Curry can shoot over defenses and still play their best game.

In addition to lacking the spacing, today's ball-dominators would get physically hurt when attacking the rim - hard fouls like this (https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-26-2022/SHB07h.gif) were standard and this physicality coupled with the lack of spacing would turn Lebron or Luka into passive facilitators like Kidd or Magic.

Accordingly, we can assume that Lebron would play below MVP-caliber like 2008 before he received all-star spacing he needs in 2009.. It all adds up.. We don't have to act like animals like we can't figure out what would happen based on deduction and reason - that's the difference between us and animals.

So like a top 3 MVP and a scoring title?

[3ba11]

So like a top 3 MVP and a scoring title?


Top 3 for MVP is a Blake Griffin or Pippen peak... lol

So yeah.. sounds about right.

No scoring title though because his at-rim (bread-and-butter) would be reduced due to packed paints and teammates not spacing the floor for him.. and hard fouls.. and physicality on perimeter (hand-checking and impeding)

[ShawkFactory]

Top 3 for MVP is a Blake Griffin or Pippen peak... lol

So yeah.. sounds about right.

No scoring title though because his at-rim (bread-and-butter) would be reduced due to packed paints and teammates not spacing the floor for him.. and hard fouls.. and physicality on perimeter (hand-checking and impeding)

So Pippen was a Lebron level player? Damn...such help.

[3ba11]

So Pippen was a Lebron level player? Damn...such help.


Lebron would be a better version of Pippen back then, so he would likely do better than 19 on 42% in 6 Finals (Pandemic P caliber).

It isn't saying much to be better than Pippen.. Grant Hill and Penny were much better than Pippen.. Lebron would be a little better than them but the reality is that Lebron couldn't win back then - his drive-and-kick skillset wouldn't have anyone to kick to back then, and kicking out for 2-pointers is a lot less efficient/useless..

So Lebron would suck really bad back then - he would feel even more trapped (feeling like he can't win) than he felt in 2010.. And I don't think that era would tolerate him trying to team up with Bird or Magic, so he'd be f*****

[AlternativeAcc.]

Lebron would be a better version of Pippen back then, so he would likely do better than 19 on 42% in 6 Finals (Pandemic P caliber).

It isn't saying much to be better than Pippen.. Grant Hill and Penny were much better than Pippen.. Lebron would be a little better than them but the reality is that Lebron couldn't win back then - his drive-and-kick skillset wouldn't have anyone to kick to back then, and kicking out for 2-pointers is a lot less efficient/useless..

So Lebron would suck really bad back then - he would feel even more trapped (feeling like he can't win) than he felt in 2010.. And I don't think that era would tolerate him trying to team up with Bird or Magic, so he'd be f*****

Lebron fresh out of high school (age) 20 was putting up prime Kobe scoring numbers with no spacing and no movement, with 7apg which Jordan (or kobe) NEVER achieved in 15 seasons

MJ at the same age was a 3rd option in college

[highwhey]

JJ Redick owning all mj fans :oldlol:

[SATAN]

Lebron fresh out of high school (age) 20 was putting up prime Kobe scoring numbers with no spacing and no movement, with 7apg which Jordan (or kobe) NEVER achieved in 15 seasons

MJ at the same age was a 3rd option in college

:roll:

[SouBeachTalents]

So Pippen was a Lebron level player? Damn...such help.
:roll:

He owns himself with every post.

[3ba11]

So Pippen was a Lebron level player? Damn...such help.


1. Pippen
2. Lebron

Top 2 overrated players ever

Pippen is overrated by possibly 100 spots, while Lebron is overrated by at least 5.. but his perceived ranking is so high (2) that 5-10 spots is a ton

[Lebron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zONvMKkIpwA Horrible 1990's defenses

[Baller789]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zONvMKkIpwA Horrible 1990's defenses

Yes. With Lebron facing the great modern defences, surely you could make a 30 sec. clip of Lebron doing chest to chest dunks over NBA centers?

[Lebron23]

Yes. With Lebron facing the great modern defences, surely you could make a 30 sec. clip of Lebron doing chest to chest dunks over NBA centers?

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[Lebron23]

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[Bawkish]

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NIce cherrypicks. I'll give you F for effort

[Phoenix]

Top 3 for MVP is a Blake Griffin or Pippen peak... lol

So yeah.. sounds about right.

No scoring title though because his at-rim (bread-and-butter) would be reduced due to packed paints and teammates not spacing the floor for him.. and hard fouls.. and physicality on perimeter (hand-checking and impeding)

https://media.tenor.com/dlKmseyJGqAAAAAd/own-goal-self-goal.gif

[bizil]

Bron WOULD DESTROY the 90's!! Only thing is he would run into peak MJ and the start of peak Shaq. I would take MJ over Bron peak-prime wise. And Shaq at his peak was the most physically dominant player in league history. So it's NO LOCK Bron would be the best player in the league in the 90's. BUT he would be in the top 2-3 and absolutely dominate!

[Real Men Wear Green]

They should lock all the opposing stans in a small room with a many sharp objects as possible.

If you claim the only defender Jordan ever faced is Muggsy you're full of shit. If you claim Lebron James would be less dominant in an era that deemphasized long range shooting and emphasized physicality then you are full of shit. And in either case you ceased being funny 10 years ago if you ever were. Big athletic wing defenders weren't invented in 2003 and James is the biggest strongest small forward of all time. Accept it and move on.

[John8204]

The case for Lebron over Jordan really is just based on Lebron being successful in any era where Jordan would have only been a great during this window of time in the 1990s. Jordan was able to be successful during a small window of time when teams were only paying for 1 maybe 2 stars and Pippen's bad contract allowed the Bulls to overpay for role players. Jordan wouldn't have been successful facing super teams because well...we saw what he did against The Celtics and Pistons. What would he have done if a Patrick Ewing, Reggie Miller, and Gary Payton decided to form a super team.

[Real Men Wear Green]

The case for Lebron over Jordan really is just based on Lebron being successful in any era where Jordan would have only been a great during this window of time in the 1990s. Jordan was able to be successful during a small window of time when teams were only paying for 1 maybe 2 stars and Pippen's bad contract allowed the Bulls to overpay for role players. Jordan wouldn't have been successful facing super teams because well...we saw what he did against The Celtics and Pistons. What would he have done if a Patrick Ewing, Reggie Miller, and Gary Payton decided to form a super team.

Your analysis is devoid of analysis. You don't talk about anything Jordan couldn't have done in terms of skill as a basketball player and instead act like he couldn't have been "successful" in any other era because of the collusion taking place in the modern day. Aside from personal pride which may well have stopped him why wouldn't Jordan have been able to collude like James? And by your stupid logic would the lack of collusion in Jordan's era mean that James wouldn't have been "successful?"

[hold this L]

Lebron fresh out of high school (age) 20 was putting up prime Kobe scoring numbers with no spacing and no movement, with 7apg which Jordan (or kobe) NEVER achieved in 15 seasons

MJ at the same age was a 3rd option in college

Averaged 8 assists in 89' while grabbing 33PPG, which Lebron never achieved.

[John8204]

Your analysis is devoid of analysis. You don't talk about anything Jordan couldn't have done in terms of skill as a basketball player and instead act like he couldn't have been "successful" in any other era because of the collusion taking place in the modern day. Aside from personal pride which may well have stopped him why wouldn't Jordan have been able to collude like James? And by your stupid logic would the lack of collusion in Jordan's era mean that James wouldn't have been "successful?"

Well we know Jordan couldn't win in time periods where talent was centralized and that he was only able to win when the talent spread out. Wilt Chamberlain who I tend to respect as an analyst said it best...he's sub 200 lbs who could play on the exterior but he would have been crushed in the interior.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GnTgEHjFpQ

Jordan played in 3 decades and was only successful in a small 8 year period of time. I'm not sure why thats controversial for you unless you are just a Jordan fanboy. Lebron in my opinion did more with less and he had to play against better teams.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Well we know Jordan couldn't win in time periods where talent was centralized and that he was only able to win when the talent spread out. Wilt Chamberlain who I tend to respect as an analyst said it best...he's sub 200 lbs who could play on the exterior but he would have been crushed in the interior.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GnTgEHjFpQ

Jordan played in 3 decades and was only successful in a small 8 year period of time. I'm not sure why thats controversial for you unless you are just a Jordan fanboy. Lebron in my opinion did more with less and he had to play against better teams.

This is the stupid shit being posted. Is Ja Morant heavier than Jordan? Don't try to analyze the actual game as you clearly can't. You are just regurgitating crap Chamberlain said because he didn't like the fact that people were saying Jordan was the greatest ever. I can understand him defending his pride it's your mindless devotion to another man that doesn't make any sense. Jordan was completely unstoppable until he got old. That's a fact unlike the stupid crap you continue to post.

[3ba11]

:facepalm:

[3ba11]

If you claim Lebron James would be less dominant in an era that deemphasized long range shooting and





No spacing = a lesser Lebron

Period

Great scorers in previous eras needed great mid-range to shoot over packed paints and mid-range is Lebron's biggest weakness along with needing spacing

This proves that Lebron's game wouldn't fit in previous eras and he would be a lesser player back then..

And Lebron has never been a dominant post player - his "physicality" occurs on drives, which he would do less often due to the lack of spacing and packed paints.

Btw, aside from Shaq, there isn't a single big man that only used power back then - they all dominated the post with jump hooks and deft touch from mid-range.. This includes Kareem, Sikma, Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Seikaly - all were deft mid-range shot-makers.. Maybe Zo is an example of a power center but even he had a go-to jump hook.

So you're just wrong in your assessment of Lebron.. He would clearly be much worse back then.. It's intuitive.. The physicality and lack of driving lanes would turn him into a passive facilitator like Kidd or Magic, and he lacks the mid-range touch required to shoot over packed paints/dominate.

[Phoenix]

These kinds of discussions will never not be dumb about what player X does in a league 20 years before or after his actual era. It's like we just teleport players back to the future style without any due consideration that every player is a product of the era that preceded them. If you take 21 year old Michael Jordan and put him into 2020, you're not going to see the same player we saw in 84. If you can accept that, then you can also accept that taking 20 year old Lebron and putting him back in 1984 is similarly going to result in a different player, with different strengths and weaknesses from the one we've seen playing since 2003.

[Real Men Wear Green]

No spacing = a lesser Lebron

Period

Great scorers in previous eras needed great mid-range to shoot over packed paints and mid-range is Lebron's biggest weakness along with needing spacing

This proves that Lebron's game wouldn't fit in previous eras and he would be a lesser player back then..

And Lebron has never been a dominant post player - his "physicality" occurs on drives, which he would do less often due to the lack of spacing and packed paints.

Btw, aside from Shaq, there isn't a single big man that only used power back then - they all dominated the post with jump hooks and deft touch from mid-range.. This includes Kareem, Sikma, Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Seikaly - all were deft mid-range shot-makers.. Maybe Zo is an example of a power center but even he had a go-to jump hook.

So you're just wrong in your assessment of Lebron.. He would clearly be much worse back then.. It's intuitive.. The physicality and lack of driving lanes would turn him into a passive facilitator like Kidd or Magic, and he lacks the mid-range touch required to shoot over packed paints/dominate.

Do you really think I haven't heard your bullshit before?

[Phoenix]

3ball is banned.

[dazzer87]

OP and his people loves eating dogs….

[tontoz]

3ball is banned.

I think he made it a week. :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

Still got banned despite being too big of a pusssy to make a thread :lol

[dankok8]

Honestly I don't think he should have been banned. He's not starting threads so he's not spamming. He has a right to his eccentric opinions.

[Phoenix]

I think he made it a week. :oldlol:

Last week I said I'd give him till Friday( this was last Tuesday). Props to him for making it an extra 4 days before RMWG layeth down the banhammer.

[Baller789]

Yes. With Lebron facing the great modern defences, surely you could make a 30 sec. clip of Lebron doing chest to chest dunks over NBA centers?


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Nice deflection. Thank you proving your incompetence.

[CountDracula]

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[John8204]

This is the stupid shit being posted. Is Ja Morant heavier than Jordan? Don't try to analyze the actual game as you clearly can't. You are just regurgitating crap Chamberlain said because he didn't like the fact that people were saying Jordan was the greatest ever. I can understand him defending his pride it's your mindless devotion to another man that doesn't make any sense. Jordan was completely unstoppable until he got old. That's a fact unlike the stupid crap you continue to post.

It's not mindless to listen other players...especially the intelligent ones. Wilt, Jerry, and Bill are three players that have proven to me to have opinions worth listening to. Also seeing how poorly Jordan performed against the Pistons I tend to agree with Wilt

[TheMan]

LeBron would destroy any era.

LBJ didn't even destroy his era, what makes you think he'd destroy a different era with a different set of rules and playing style? Russell destroyed his era, Magic, MJ and Shaq did also to their respective eras...4 chips in 20 years doesn't equate to "destroying your era".

[Wally450]

Anyone in the top 15 would destroy any era. That includes older guys like Russell & Wilt.

[RRR3]

Still got banned despite being too big of a pusssy to make a thread :lol
All he has to do is not talk about LeBron and he just can’t do it.

[ShawkFactory]

LBJ didn't even destroy his era, what makes you think he'd destroy a different era with a different set of rules and playing style? Russell destroyed his era, Magic, MJ and Shaq did also to their respective eras...4 chips in 20 years doesn't equate to "destroying your era".
You’re getting bogged down by semantics and slightly hyperbole.

I think the general idea is that he would be an absolute elite player in any era.

[Phoenix]

Anyone in the top 15 would destroy any era. That includes older guys like Russell & Wilt.

I would even extend that to the top 25, because from 15-25 you're getting into Mailman/Barkley/Garnett/Dirk/Wade/Admiral territory.

[RRR3]

You’re getting bogged down by semantics and slightly hyperbole.

I think the general idea is that he would be an absolute elite player in any era.
Shaq has the same number of rings as LeBron too, dudes a complete idiot :oldlol:

LeBron also won his rings in a span of 9 years lol

[TheMan]

Shaq has the same number of rings as LeBron too, dudes a complete idiot :oldlol:

LeBron also won his rings in a span of 9 years lol

Shaq won his 4 in a shorter span, MJ obviously too and also Magic :confusedshrug: Just because I don't deepthroat Bran like you and your kind doesn't make me an idiot:cheers:

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmB6YCUzgMU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmB6YCUzgMU

[Airupthere]

Lol at semantics. We all know what reddick meant. He’s one of those that would say any modern player would look like an alien to past players. Bran has never been dominant mentality. Even with all the superteaming, easy east conf competition for many years, rare combination of size and athleticism, he’s never really dominated his era. So many excuses.

[3ba11]

No spacing = a lesser Lebron

His stiff-arm game has always needed spacing, which is what previous eras didn't have..

Great scorers in previous eras needed great mid-range to shoot over packed paints and mid-range is Lebron's biggest weakness along with needing spacing

This proves that Lebron's game wouldn't fit in previous eras and he would be a lesser player back then..





Real Men got mad and banned me for this - literally got mad and yelled "DO YOU THINK I HAVEN'T HEARD THIS BULLSHIT BEFORE!!"

and banned me in anger

what a *****

[Axe]

Real Men got mad and banned me for this - literally got mad and yelled "DO YOU THINK I HAVEN'T HEARD THIS BULLSHIT BEFORE!!"

and banned me in anger

what a *****

the opposite of a man
1-9

Piece of shit

[HoopologyPhD]

JJ Redick would have been Steve Kerr in the 90's but without the bball IQ and defensive abilities