It's Incredible How Good the Lakers Look Without Lebron Playing

[Full Court]

It's a night and day difference. Their ball movement is so much better, they have more energy, they get better shots, better defense, and on and on.

The eye test says it all. There's no denying it.

Up by 35 over the Pelicans at half time. :lol

[SATAN]

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[Full Court]

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The truth sure hurts this Bronie fluffing idiot. :lol

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[SATAN]

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[Full Court]

:roll:

Beezleblubber's in one of his famous bitch fit meltdowns.

I guarantee he's on the verge of crying right now. If he's not already crying, that is.

:lebronamazed:

[SATAN]

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[tontoz]

Lakers 5-3 now after LeBron went down. Maybe they aren't a bunch of scrubs after all.

[RRR3]

Lakers 5-3 now after LeBron went down. Maybe they aren't a bunch of scrubs after all.
They traded the scrubs.

[Full Court]

Lakers 5-3 now after LeBron went down. Maybe they aren't a bunch of scrubs after all.

They never were. They were a superteam being dragged down by a washed up LeShrivel who can't be bothered to play any defense.

No wonder Beezleblubber is such a basket case. He can't deny the fact that his hero is dead weight. :lol

[kawhileonard2]

This team had 2 guys who won league mvp and last year won 33 games.

[SATAN]

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[1987_Lakers]

Mods?

[Full Court]

Mods?

Just goes to show you how mentally unstable Bronies are. :confusedshrug:

For all your flaws, at least you don't come off as unstable.

Beezleblubber's medication doesn't seem to be working.

[warriorfan]

lmaoooo

bran stans melting down hard :lol

[Manny98]

LeBron has the best supporting cast in the league outside of the Bucks

Team is absolutely loaded

[ShawkFactory]

All of the role players are playing very well at the moment. Let’s see if they can sustain it.

If so once Bron comes back they’ll be a tough out in the first couple rounds at least.

[imdaman99]

All of the role players are playing very well at the moment. Let’s see if they can sustain it.

If so once Bron comes back they’ll be a tough out in the first couple rounds at least.

That's the thing, these role players don't shine when Bron is playing. They need to play better when he's in the lineup

[RRR3]

That's the thing, these role players don't shine when Bron is playing. They need to play better when he's in the lineup
Fuming so bad he has to lie.

[kawhileonard2]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html (Lakers 1st) - Lost in round 1

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2022_preseason_odds.html (Lakers 2nd) - Missed Play in. :facepalm

No playoff series win in front of Lakers fans.
Oh!

[ShawkFactory]

That's the thing, these role players don't shine when Bron is playing. They need to play better when he's in the lineup

The main thing has just been the increase in energy with the new guys. Which started before Bron went out.

[Airupthere]

Lakers looking scary without the bad effect of bronball. When the time is right, we’ll see bran come back and ride on the success of this momentum.

[NBAGOAT]

I mean small sample but lakers are 9-4 with the new group and of those games 3-0 with bron. There just isn’t a discussion here no matter how much you’re trolling. The players will play worse individually when bron comes back but the team will be better

[AussieSteve]

It's a night and day difference. Their ball movement is so much better, they have more energy, they get better shots, better defense, and on and on.

The eye test says it all. There's no denying it.

Up by 35 over the Pelicans at half time. :lol


Can you imagine how good they're going to look once lebron is back.

Lakers were 19-15 with lebron since his November injury pre-trade deadline. 3-0 with him since the deadline.

Compared to 1-4 and 6-5 without him over these periods.

This team with lebron could definitely win the West if everyone stays healthy. I can even see them beating the Suns with KD, as long as lebron is healthy.

[Nb1]

Finally we have an average roster, but we’re 6-4 without Bron and 3-0 with him since the trades.

The Warriors won more without Curry than with him. The Grizzlies are beating teams without Ja, the Suns were a 60+ win team without Durant.

Our guys without Lebron have a negative playoff record and are basically rookies in the game. We need Lebron to make a noise in the playoffs. And we lost stupid games we should have won without him vs the Kicks without their best player…

[Full Court]

Can you imagine how good they're going to look once lebron is back.

Lakers were 19-15 with lebron since his November injury pre-trade deadline. 3-0 with him since the deadline.

Compared to 1-4 and 6-5 without him over these periods.

This team with lebron could definitely win the West if everyone stays healthy. I can even see them beating the Suns with KD, as long as lebron is healthy.

We've seen them with Lebron....and they were mediocre.

Before Lebron decided to sit out and load manage they were playing slower, not getting as good of shots, worse ball movement, massive hole on defense, etc.

[nineiron]

Lakers 5-3 now after LeBron went down. Maybe they aren't a bunch of scrubs after all.


They traded the scrubs.

they still have one but he "hurt" his foot

[nineiron]

Lakers 5-3 now after LeBron went down. Maybe they aren't a bunch of scrubs after all.


All of the role players are playing very well at the moment. Let’s see if they can sustain it.

If so once Bron comes back they’ll go back to losing.

fixed

[nineiron]

That's the thing, these role players don't shine when Bron is playing.

gee whiz, i wonder why?

[nineiron]

I mean small sample but lakers are 9-4 with the new group and of those games 3-0 with bron. There just isn’t a discussion here no matter how much you’re trolling. The players will play worse individually when bron comes back but the team will be better

please elaborate. why will "the players play worse individually when bron comes back"?

[Johnny32]

3-0 with legoat since the trade, 6-4 without.

LeDesperation.

[ArbitraryWater]

this group is undefeated with Bron :bowdown:

[Johnny32]

this group is undefeated with Bron :bowdown:

two blowouts and a 25 pt second half comeback were the games. the fat kids are starting to panic for a reason.

[RogueBorg]

They have the easiest schedule the rest of the way out.

[Wally450]

It's almost like they upgraded their roster at the trade deadline. Who would've thought.

[nineiron]

It's almost like they upgraded their roster at the trade deadline. Who would've thought.

it's almost like they are playing without having to carry LeDeadWeight around the court. who would've thought

[Hey Yo]

It's almost like they upgraded their roster at the trade deadline. Who would've thought.

LeGM ..... :rockon:

[100grandman]

this group is undefeated with Bron :bowdown:

Yep 3 and 0. People act like that isn’t common knowledge. One of those wins was over Dallas.

[FKAri]

LeCoach + LeGM > LePlayer

2 LeBrons > 1 LeBron

[Nb1]

this group is undefeated with Bron :bowdown:

I don't know why these brainless retards keep forgetting to mention the fact that they are 3-0 with Lebron and 6-4 without Lebron :roll:

[AussieSteve]

We've seen them with Lebron....and they were mediocre.

Before Lebron decided to sit out and load manage they were playing slower, not getting as good of shots, worse ball movement, massive hole on defense, etc.

But they won more with lebron. And had a much better plus-minus with him in court.

Not quite sure what else we can measure the quality of a team apart from the extent to which they outscore their opponents and win.

[Full Court]

two blowouts and a 25 pt second half comeback were the games. the fat kids are starting to panic for a reason.

I'm the one who was saying since the pre-season that the Lakers were a super team and should win it all.

You and the rest of the Bronie fluffers were doing damage control before the season even started. :lol

Any way you try to slice it, Lebron MASSIVELY underachieved this year. Unless AD and Russell can drag his lazy butt to the finals.

[AussieSteve]

I'm the one who was saying since the pre-season that the Lakers were a super team and should win it all.

You and the rest of the Bronie fluffers were doing damage control before the season even started. :lol

Any way you try to slice it, Lebron MASSIVELY underachieved this year. Unless AD and Russell can drag his lazy butt to the finals.

You calling them a super team since pre season is damage control.

You creating this thread is damage control.

The facts are what they are. Lakers have been better with lebron than without by whatever metric you want to use. Win-Loss. Plus-minus.

They will be a force in the playoffs if LeBron is healthy. You know this, and so threads like this are pre-emptive damage control.

[ShawkFactory]

You calling them a super team since pre season is damage control.

You creating this thread is damage control.

The facts are what they are. Lakers have been better with lebron than without by whatever metric you want to use. Win-Loss. Plus-minus.

They will be a force in the playoffs if LeBron is healthy. You know this, and so threads like this are pre-emptive damage control.

Pretty much. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's damage control though.

More like just lame trolling.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Their post acquisitions have definitely looked nice.

Just waiting on Bron now

Any time table for his return? Checked a source earlier but wasnt newsworthy.

[bladefd]

Their post acquisitions have definitely looked nice.

Just waiting on Bron now

Any time table for his return? Checked a source earlier but wasnt newsworthy.

I doubt Lebron returns for another couple weeks.

[Spurs m8]

Axe and Satan should fvck

2 weird merman type losers

[Full Court]

Axe and Satan should fvck

2 weird merman type losers

:roll:

The bitch fit brothers.

[RRR3]

:lol

[SATAN]

Axe and Satan should fvck

2 weird merman type losers

lol

I know people who work financial call centers. They are very shallow people of low intelligence. Basically worthless sheep.

Just like you. Bogan ****head.

[Axe]

:cry:
You and the redneck jizzrag op actually hump each other to death everyday, you stupid dingleberry bogan. :oldlol:

[Full Court]

lol

I know people who work financial call centers. They are very shallow people of low intelligence. Basically worthless sheep.

Just like you. Bogan ****head.


You and the redneck jizzrag op actually hump each other to death everyday, you stupid dingleberry bogan. :oldlol:

Bitch fit brothers.

:roll:


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[Vino24]

lol

I know people who work financial call centers. They are very shallow people of low intelligence. Basically worthless sheep.

Just like you. Bogan ****head.

Woah. Jizzm8 is just a call center pleb? Lolol

[Full Court]

Woah. Jizzm8 is just a call center pleb? Lolol

^Bitch fit.

:lol

[RRR3]

Full Retard gonna have to explain how this super stacked team is losing to the worst team in the league.

[Full Court]

Full Retard gonna have to explain how this super stacked team is losing to the worst team in the league.

No idea how it's happening....






But I'm loving it!

:roll:

Keep crying, RRR3tard.

[RRR3]

No idea how it's happening....






But I'm loving it!

:roll:

Keep crying, RRR3tard.
Why would I cry? They obviously win this game with LeBron.

[Full Court]

Why would I cry? They obviously win this game with LeBron.

Delusional.

As usual.

No Lebron, better team.

No AD, no playoffs.

You're not very intelligent.

[RRR3]

Delusional.

As usual.

No Lebron, better team.

No AD, no playoffs.

You're not very intelligent.
24-23 with LeBron. 10-13 without LeBron.

You're factually wrong :(

If this team needs AD to beat the worst team in the league they're obviously not stacked. Dull Court :yaohappy:

[Full Court]

24-23 with LeBron. 10-13 without LeBron.

You're factually wrong :(

If this team needs AD to beat the worst team in the league they're obviously not stacked. Dull Court :yaohappy:

You're too simpleminded to understand any context beyond raw numbers. LeShrivel always sat out in back to backs against tough teams and played against the easy teams. And a good portion of those 10-13 were without AD.

LeDeadWeight. Truth hurts.

[RRR3]

:mad:
:lol

[Airupthere]

No AD, big problem

[NBAGOAT]

You're too simpleminded to understand any context beyond raw numbers. LeShrivel always sat out in back to backs against tough teams and played against the easy teams. And a good portion of those 10-13 were without AD.

LeDeadWeight. Truth hurts.

he sat out 3 b2bs this year that's not a lot lol. lebron and ad have missed 7 games together. 2-5 in those games. 8-8 is still .500 and 11 or almost half of bron's missed games have come post westbrook trade. They were 21-23 with bron before russell, vando, beasley came in 4-8 without him. Post trade they're 3-0 with him, 6-5 without. Obviously they're better with bron lol. You should at least take a look at the game log before making claims that can be proven wrong lol.

[RRR3]

he sat out 3 b2bs this year that's not a lot lol. lebron and ad have missed 7 games together. 2-5 in those games. 8-8 is still .500 and 11 or almost half of bron's missed games have come post westbrook trade. They were 21-23 with bron before russell, vando, beasley came in 4-8 without him. Post trade they're 3-0 with him, 6-5 without. Obviously they're better with bron lol. You should at least take a look at the game log before making claims that can be proven wrong lol.
Dimwit Full Court destroyed as usual. Watch him try to argue with literal facts because of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

[Axe]

Their post acquisitions have definitely looked nice.

Just waiting on Bron now

Any time table for his return? Checked a source earlier but wasnt newsworthy.
Probably https://i.ibb.co/rGTfpKq/IMG-20230312-120638.jpg (https://i.ibb.co/VmtLLFS/IMG-20221122-211833.jpg)before the rs ends.

[Nb1]

3-0 with Lebron

6-5 without Lebron vs the easiest schedule left :facepalm

[Full Court]

he sat out 3 b2bs this year that's not a lot lol. lebron and ad have missed 7 games together. 2-5 in those games. 8-8 is still .500 and 11 or almost half of bron's missed games have come post westbrook trade. They were 21-23 with bron before russell, vando, beasley came in 4-8 without him. Post trade they're 3-0 with him, 6-5 without. Obviously they're better with bron lol. You should at least take a look at the game log before making claims that can be proven wrong lol.

You're backing up my point. :roll:

And for those 6-5 games you bring up, how many of those were without either AD or Russell? Exactly.

Lebron had all season to get the team out of the lottery bracket, and he couldn't do it. That's just a fact whether you guys want to acknowledge it or not.


Dimwit Full Court destroyed as usual. Watch him try to argue with literal facts because of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Drooling moron. :lol

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[Nb1]

You're backing up my point. :roll:

And for those 6-5 games you bring up, how many of those were without either AD or Russell? Exactly.

Lebron had all season to get the team out of the lottery bracket, and he couldn't do it. That's just a fact whether you guys want to acknowledge it or not.



Drooling moron. :lol



Unlike you i can count :roll:

So here it goes for you. Of the 6-5 record of the new look Lakers without Bron, AD missed 2 of them and is 5-4 and Russel missed 5 of them and is 3-3.

I'm sorry, but at least i hope now that you can see the numbers you realize how retarded you are for making those threads :roll:

But please carry on showing all your stupidity and humiliating yourself :oldlol:

[ShawkFactory]

You're backing up my point. :roll:

And for those 6-5 games you bring up, how many of those were without either AD or Russell? Exactly.

Lebron had all season to get the team out of the lottery bracket, and he couldn't do it. That's just a fact whether you guys want to acknowledge it or not.



Drooling moron. :lol

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Why would that matter?

[TheMan]

Mods?

Good call, Satan needs to be banned. People posting their points of view and all that retard can say is jizz rag :facepalm

[Full Court]

Why would that matter?

Where have you been, man?

No AD, no playoffs. Russell is another all star-level player on the team. Take two all stars off any team, don't you think they'll play a lot worse?

[ShawkFactory]

Where have you been, man?

No AD, no playoffs. Russell is another all star-level player on the team. Take two all stars off any team, don't you think they'll play a lot worse?

I do. But apparently you don’t unless Bron isn’t playing.

You don’t get it both ways mate.

[RRR3]

I do. But apparently you don’t unless Bron isn’t playing.

You don’t get it both ways mate.
If the Lakers are stacked and LeBron hurts the team then they should be able to beat the worst team in the league down AD. How is a team stacked if they can’t beat a tanking team because ONE player is out? He can’t use LeBron being out as an excuse because he said LeBron hurts the team :yaohappy:

[Full Court]

I do. But apparently you don’t unless Bron isn’t playing.

You don’t get it both ways mate.

Lebron was good back in the day. He's really not now beyond being a one-trick-pony scorer.

Do you not think the Lakers defense is significantly better without Lebron on the floor? Do you not think they move the ball a lot better, show better stamina, and have a better pace without Lebron on the floor?

I suspect you'll disagree with all that, or you wouldn't be taking issue with this thread, but I'm going with what I see.

[AlternativeAcc.]

100% win rate with LeBron and only 60% without him?

Yikes

[RRR3]

Lebron was good back in the day. He's really not now beyond being a one-trick-pony scorer.

Do you not think the Lakers defense is significantly better without Lebron on the floor? Do you not think they move the ball a lot better, show better stamina, and have a better pace without Lebron on the floor?

I suspect you'll disagree with all that, or you wouldn't be taking issue with this thread, but I'm going with what I see.
The Lakers defensive rating is 114. When LeBron is on the court it's 112.5. I'm not sure why you insist on lying about stuff that can easily be disproven.

[ShawkFactory]

Lebron was good back in the day. He's really not now beyond being a one-trick-pony scorer.

Do you not think the Lakers defense is significantly better without Lebron on the floor? Do you not think they move the ball a lot better, show better stamina, and have a better pace without Lebron on the floor?

I suspect you'll disagree with all that, or you wouldn't be taking issue with this thread, but I'm going with what I see.

Bro I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with a troll thread. I don’t care about it at its core.

I’m just needling at your logic because it’s entertaining to me.

Now...do YOU think that a “superteam” without their best player probably doesn’t lose to the worst team in the league that is actively trying to lose? It’s a SUPERTEAM for god sakes. In a stretch of must-win games no less.

[SouBeachTalents]

Bro I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with a troll thread. I don’t care about it at its core.

I’m just needling at your logic because it’s entertaining to me.

Now...do YOU think that a “superteam” without their best player probably doesn’t lose to the worst team in the league that is actively trying to lose? It’s a SUPERTEAM for god sakes. In a stretch of must-win games no less.
I also think a SUPERTEAM could at least make the 8 seed without their best player, but apparently no AD, no playoffs :confusedshrug:

[ShawkFactory]

I also think a SUPERTEAM could at least make the 8 seed without their best player, but apparently no AD, no playoffs :confusedshrug:

Oh shit I never thought of it like that! I guess a slew of role players of the caliber that literally every NBA team has doesn’t constitute as a superteam.

And if Lebron is a net negative? Not so super

[RRR3]

Oh shit I never thought of it like that! I guess a slew of role players of the caliber that literally every NBA team has doesn’t constitute as a superteam.

And if Lebron is a net negative? Not so super
The sad part is you can literally prove him wrong and he's so dull he'll keep arguing anyways. A classic example of the dunning-kruger effect.

[Legend248]

Bro I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with a troll thread. I don’t care about it at its core.

I’m just needling at your logic because it’s entertaining to me.

Now...do YOU think that a “superteam” without their best player probably doesn’t lose to the worst team in the league that is actively trying to lose? It’s a SUPERTEAM for god sakes. In a stretch of must-win games no less.

This isn't a troll thread lol the lakers are a better team without lequeen female dog diva james.

[Nb1]

The Lakers defensive rating is 114. When LeBron is on the court it's 112.5. I'm not sure why you insist on lying about stuff that can easily be disproven.

The issue is Full retard can’t count till 6 :roll:

In any case Lakers without Bron they are 6-5 and when AD missed the 2 games in that span they won one and lost one and are 5-4.

And with Bron 3-0.

I mean, its not even up for discussion. Every single stat or fact shows a big difference when Lebron plays and when he doesn’t. They’re barely a lottery team losing to Houston, Knicks without their best player and Portland when Bron didnt play and are a championship contender and won all games vs better teams when he plays and never looked better.

[NBAGOAT]

Where have you been, man?

No AD, no playoffs. Russell is another all star-level player on the team. Take two all stars off any team, don't you think they'll play a lot worse?

Russell isn’t close to being an all star lol. There’s no evidence he has that impact. He’s fine as a 4th best player on a team or a 3rd if you have a great star duo. If you want to point to his scoring, it is usually guys like you who say scoring is devalued now and ask warriors fans how much of a star they think Jordan Poole is and he scores more than Russell. If what you actually see is the lakers being worse with bron, then idk what to say. Your eye test shouldn’t be taken seriously ever again

[Full Court]

Oh shit I never thought of it like that! I guess a slew of role players of the caliber that literally every NBA team has doesn’t constitute as a superteam.

And if Lebron is a net negative? Not so super

I've explained this elsewhere numerous times.

They SHOULD be a super team...that is, on paper they are.

Obviously if you go by their achievement, they are not. Because last year and this year's Lakers are the most underachieving team in the history of the sport.

Now why the difference between how good they are on paper and in practice? It's pretty obvious that Lebron was the one bringing them down all season, as manifested by how much better they look when he sits.

[Full Court]

I also think a SUPERTEAM could at least make the 8 seed without their best player, but apparently no AD, no playoffs :confusedshrug:

They very well may make 8th seed. They're what, one game out of 8th?

[Axe]

Russell isn’t close to being an all star lol. There’s no evidence he has that impact. He’s fine as a 4th best player on a team or a 3rd if you have a great star duo. If you want to point to his scoring, it is usually guys like you who say scoring is devalued now and ask warriors fans how much of a star they think Jordan Poole is and he scores more than Russell. If what you actually see is the lakers being worse with bron, then idk what to say. Your eye test shouldn’t be taken seriously ever again
:applause:

[Johnny32]

legoat forced his haters to go full tard mode many years ago. why are they expecting logic in their arguments now?

[Johnny32]

3-0 with legoat since the trade, 6-5 without.

LeDesperation.

LeUpdated.

[ShawkFactory]

I've explained this elsewhere numerous times.

They SHOULD be a super team...that is, on paper they are.

Obviously if you go by their achievement, they are not. Because last year and this year's Lakers are the most underachieving team in the history of the sport.

Now why the difference between how good they are on paper and in practice? It's pretty obvious that Lebron was the one bringing them down all season, as manifested by how much better they look when he sits.

Then why did they just lose to the worst team in the league who are actively trying to tank? Lebron isn't there so they should be better.

[RRR3]

The Lakers defensive rating is 114. When LeBron is on the court it's 112.5. I'm not sure why you insist on lying about stuff that can easily be disproven.
Dull Court has no answer to this lol

[Full Court]

Then why did they just lose to the worst team in the league who are actively trying to tank? Lebron isn't there so they should be better.

Because they crapped the bed. It happens. Even without AD and Lebron, Lakers were still hefty favorites to win that game. You can't tell me they weren't.

[Hey Yo]

Because they crapped the bed. It happens. Even without AD and Lebron, Lakers were still hefty favorites to win that game. You can't tell me they weren't.

But LeBron allgedley makes them worse. So shouldn't they have had a better chance of winning that game even without AD?

The margin of victory would have been greater if James played?

[RRR3]

Full Retard :bowdown:

[Full Court]

But LeBron allgedley makes them worse. So shouldn't they have had a better chance of winning that game even without AD?

The margin of victory would have been greater if James played?

Yes. But just because they have a better chance of winning the game obviously doesn't mean they're going to win every time. Even the best team in the league has never gone undefeated. Do you disagree that the Lakers without Lebron and AD still beat the Rockets 9 out of 10 times?

[Full Court]

Full Retard :bowdown:

^Shook bronie fluffer.

:cry:

[ShawkFactory]

Because they crapped the bed. It happens. Even without AD and Lebron, Lakers were still hefty favorites to win that game. You can't tell me they weren't.

Lol they need Bron to come back.

[RRR3]

Lol they need Bron to come back.
He either knows and is just trolling or is truly the dumbest person on this board.

[Full Court]

He either knows and is just trolling or is truly the dumbest person on this board.

That's impossible. Not while you're on this board. Truly a brain dead Bronie fluffer. :confusedshrug:

[Full Court]

Lol they need Bron to come back.

I'm hoping he comes back ASAP. With him being out, I'm concerned that the Lakers will make the playoffs.

[ShawkFactory]

I'm hoping he comes back ASAP. With him being out, I'm concerned that the Lakers will make the playoffs.

Know when to stop. It gets lame after a minute.

[WhiteKyrie]

Ball movement. Confidence. Not playing for one guy who is low key GM on the floor, yet conversely a pouting terrible leader. Imagine if Bron had leadership and CP3 / Curry intangibles? They would easily be one of the best teams in the league. Selfish loser as your teams best player ain’t gonna work.

[Full Court]

Know when to stop. It gets lame after a minute.

Nah, it goes along with the theme of this thread, so it's appropriate.

[Axe]

You calling them a super team since pre season is damage control.

You creating this thread is damage control.

The facts are what they are. Lakers have been better with lebron than without by whatever metric you want to use. Win-Loss. Plus-minus.

They will be a force in the playoffs if LeBron is healthy. You know this, and so threads like this are pre-emptive damage control.
/thread

[kawhileonard2]

Better record this year without Lebron than with him and this with peak Westbrook and Davis.

[Nb1]

Better record this year without Lebron than with him and this with peak Westbrook and Davis.

What are you talking about, Lakers are 24-23 with Lebron and 10-14 without Lenbron this season.

And that counting the easy schedule with the new team where Bron is undefeated and would have had an even better record playing Houston, Knicks/Dallas without their best player, Portland etc. All losses btw without him...

[Axe]

legoat forced his haters to go full tard mode many years ago. why are they expecting logic in their arguments now?
Hey, be careful of saying shit like that. You're gonna cause the redneck jizzrag op to have a super intense bitch fit of his own. :oldlol:

He's already having a bad day whining after receiving his first-ever ban yesterday, especially before he even reached his pathetic two-year milestone itb. :lol

[Full Court]

Hey, be careful of saying shit like that. You're gonna cause the redneck jizzrag op to have a super intense bitch fit of his own. :oldlol:

He's already having a bad day whining after receiving his first-ever ban yesterday, especially before he even reached his pathetic two-year milestone itb. :lol

^Wow, what a bitch fit.

:roll:

[Spurs m8]

Another win without LeCancer

[Full Court]

Reaves: Lakers MVP

Bronie: Lakers LVP

[Johnny32]

Hey, be careful of saying shit like that. You're gonna cause the redneck jizzrag op to have a super intense bitch fit of his own. :oldlol:

He's already having a bad day whining after receiving his first-ever ban yesterday, especially before he even reached his pathetic two-year milestone itb. :lol

i read maybe 1 out of 100 shit posts that tard types. he's not quoting me if attention is what he's after.

[Full Court]

i read maybe 1 out of 100 shit posts that tard types. he's not quoting me if attention is what he's after.

It's incredible how good the Lakers look without LeShrivel.

And it's even more incredible how Bronie fluffers are in denial about it. :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Russell isn’t close to being an all star lol. There’s no evidence he has that impact. He’s fine as a 4th best player on a team or a 3rd if you have a great star duo. If you want to point to his scoring, it is usually guys like you who say scoring is devalued now and ask warriors fans how much of a star they think Jordan Poole is and he scores more than Russell. If what you actually see is the lakers being worse with bron, then idk what to say. Your eye test shouldn’t be taken seriously ever again

full court never responded to this swift ether

[Full Court]

full court never responded to this swift ether

You respond to the Lakers moving up 4 seeds since Lebron got "injured" first. :lol

[SaltyMeatballs]

Orrrrrr...

The Lakers improved much more from those trades at the deadline. Having LeBron will only make them better :rockon:

[Full Court]

Orrrrrr...

The Lakers improved much more from those trades at the deadline. Having LeBron will only make them better :rockon:

You'll see. ;)

[Indian guy]

Post-trade Lakers are 9-6 without LeBron and 12-6 overall. I strongly believe their record would've looked similar even without Dlo/Vanderbilt/Beasley's acquisitions AS LONG AS Westbrook was no longer on the roster. The key was always getting rid of a guy who murdered your defense, made it impossible to win close games and created a lot of chemistry issues. DLo/Vanderbilt/Beasley is just bonus. And through them LA has managed to fix some of their shooting and size woes on the perimeter. Now they have a roster that can contend with a fully healthy and meshed-in LeBron. Which unfortunately won't happen this season.

[kawhileonard2]

Post-trade Lakers are 9-6 without LeBron and 12-6 overall. I strongly believe their record would've looked similar even without Dlo/Vanderbilt/Beasley's acquisitions AS LONG AS Westbrook was no longer on the roster. The key was always getting rid of a guy who murdered your defense, made it impossible to win close games and created a lot of chemistry issues. DLo/Vanderbilt/Beasley is just bonus. And through them LA has managed to fix some of their shooting and size woes on the perimeter. Now they have a roster that can contend with a fully healthy and meshed-in LeBron. Which unfortunately won't happen this season.

How can you say that a dude who won league mvp and the all time leader in triple doubles is the reason you failed? That's retarded

[Full Court]

Post-trade Lakers are 9-6 without LeBron and 12-6 overall. I strongly believe their record would've looked similar even without Dlo/Vanderbilt/Beasley's acquisitions AS LONG AS Westbrook was no longer on the roster. The key was always getting rid of a guy who murdered your defense, made it impossible to win close games and created a lot of chemistry issues. DLo/Vanderbilt/Beasley is just bonus. And through them LA has managed to fix some of their shooting and size woes on the perimeter. Now they have a roster that can contend with a fully healthy and meshed-in LeBron. Which unfortunately won't happen this season.

But this is exactly why they're doing so much better without Lebron.

[bison]

Lebron status for Sunday’s game has been upgraded from ‘out’ to ‘doubtful’. The King is starting to rev up the comeback. It won’t be long before Full Court has a Full Meltdown :banana:

[Full Court]

Lebron status for Sunday’s game has been upgraded from ‘out’ to ‘doubtful’. The King is starting to rev up the comeback. It won’t be long before Full Court has a Full Meltdown :banana:

More likely that LeShrivel drags his team into a first round exit and this moron^ starts throwing bitch fits. :lol

[ImKobe]

Post-trade Lakers are 9-6 without LeBron and 12-6 overall. I strongly believe their record would've looked similar even without Dlo/Vanderbilt/Beasley's acquisitions AS LONG AS Westbrook was no longer on the roster. The key was always getting rid of a guy who murdered your defense, made it impossible to win close games and created a lot of chemistry issues. DLo/Vanderbilt/Beasley is just bonus. And through them LA has managed to fix some of their shooting and size woes on the perimeter. Now they have a roster that can contend with a fully healthy and meshed-in LeBron. Which unfortunately won't happen this season.

Offense was the issue. They were all-time bad from 3 when they started out 2 - 10 and Russ was one of the few guys on the team who was making his shots in that stretch (36%3PT, team overall shot like 26% and were the worst in the league by a huge margin). I believe they had an above-average defense but were bottom 5 on offense, which is why they're still 22nd in ORTG while 10th on D on the season.

They went 23 - 20 from Nov 13th (after the 2 - 10 start) until WB's last game as a Laker and that's with all the injuries, with them getting robbed at the end of games & they were 0 - 2 without Russ in that stretch. Lakers were 0 - 3 without him overall this season. He's still a decent enough player but the contract made it really hard to build a deep team around the "Big 3" with Bran & AD constantly getting injured as well. It's not his fault that the Pat Bev & Nunn signings didn't work out either.

[bison]

Lebron status for Sunday’s game has been upgraded from ‘out’ to ‘doubtful’. The King is starting to rev up the comeback. It won’t be long before Full Court has a Full Meltdown :banana:

Lebron upgraded to ‘questionable’ :lebronamazed:

LFG!!

[Nb1]

Thank god. There's no way in hell the Lakers would've lost to Houston, Portland, Knicks without their best player, etc if Lebron played.
And wtf beating OKC in a must win game by 5 frking points at home after they had back to backs, what a sh** show. I thought the team was strong enough to at least beat those mediocre teams without a sweat without Bron after WB finaly got kicked out, but they've proved me wrong and showed they just aren't good enough without him.

If he comes back 30% the Lakers still have a chance at the 6th spot and at a championship.

[Full Court]

Thank god. There's no way in hell the Lakers would've lost to Houston, Portland, Knicks without their best player, etc if Lebron played.
And wtf beating OKC in a must win game by 5 frking points at home after they had back to backs, what a sh** show. I thought the team was strong enough to at least beat those mediocre teams without a sweat without Bron after WB finaly got kicked out, but they've proved me wrong and showed they just aren't good enough without him.

If he comes back 30% the Lakers still have a chance at the 6th spot and at a championship.

Yes, Thank God he's back. No way they would have lost to the Bulls if Lebron was playing!!!

Oh wait.....



:roll:

[LeGoat4Life]

LeDeadWeight for a reason

[kawhileonard2]

Yes, Thank God he's back. No way they would have lost to the Bulls if Lebron was playing!!!

Oh wait.....



:roll:

This. Or to Puerto Rico in the Olympics.

[RogueBorg]

When Lebron was playing the Lakers wereout of the playoffs.
Without Lebron they were able to get into the top 10.
How funny would it be if they fall out of the playoffs WITH Lebron playing?!

All the Labronies will be on suicide watch.

[kawhileonard2]

Got to .500 without Lebron and then lose as soon as he comes back against his nemesis Derozan.

[kawhileonard2]

Would have gotten to finals without him.

[Axe]

i read maybe 1 out of 100 shit posts that tard types. he's not quoting me if attention is what he's after.
:roll:

Lol what a c0ck sucking sore loser op is.

[Nb1]

24-23 with LeBron. 10-13 without LeBron.

You're factually wrong :(

If this team needs AD to beat the worst team in the league they're obviously not stacked. Dull Court :yaohappy:

Just shattered that poor fat kids life for the 100000th time :roll:

Never seen anyone dumber than that guy. Dude can't even read or count till 5 :oldlol: