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03-15-2023, 03:43 PM
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.................................................. ........APG......... ASSISTED RATE
Wade before Lebron (04'-10'):............ 6.6 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2004-2010-sum:per_game)..................29.2% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2004-2010-sum:shooting) <---- links to bballref data
Wade with... Lebron (11'-14'):............ 4.7 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2011-2014-sum:per_game)..................40.3% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2011-2014-sum:shooting)
Irving before Lebron (12'-14'):........... 5.8 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2012-2014-sum:per_game)..................31.9% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2012-2014-sum:shooting)
Irving with... Lebron (15-17'):............ 5.0 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2017-sum:per_game)..................32.7% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2016-sum:shooting)
Bosh before Lebron (04'-10'):............. 2.2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2004-2010-sum:per_game)..................55.8% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2004-2010-sum:shooting)
Bosh with... Lebron (11'-14'):............. 1.6 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:per_game) .................71.6% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:shooting)
Love before Lebron (09'-14'):............. 2.5 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2009-2014-sum:per_game)...................62.7% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2009-2014-sum:shooting)
Love with...Lebron (15'-18'):.............. 2.3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2015-2018-sum:per_game) ..................80.0% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2015-2018-sum:shooting)
Mo Will before Lebron (05'-08'):......... 5.7 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2005-2008-sum:per_game)...................39.2% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2004-2008-sum:shooting)
Mo Will with... Lebron (09'-10'):......... 4.6 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2009-2010-sum:per_game)...................47.6% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2009-2010-sum:shooting)
FYI...
Pippen with... Jordan 91'-93':............. 6.5 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:per_game)
Pippen w/out Jordan 94'-95':............. 5.4 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1994-1995-sum:per_game)
Pippen with... Jordan 96'-98':............. 5.8 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:per_game)
When Lebron returns, he'll become a 2nd player in the Lakers' starting lineup with a point guard hold-time, which abnormally-lowers teammates assists and yields a low-assist TEAM that can't hang on the championship level regardless of cast (low team ceilings/Finals records).
It's impossible for a young ball-handler to develop when a teammate is lowering everyone's assists, which is why Ingram saw a 1-year drop across the board alongside Lebron (3-point efficiency, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP), along with other ball-handlers like Wade, Hughes, Westbrook, Rose, IT, Clarkson and also forwards like Kuzma, Bosh, Love, or Jamison.
The only player-types that don't decline alongside Lebron are elite shooters (Mo/Kyrie) or low-caliber guys like Delly that are already spot-up shooters.
But developing a "Delly" won't win titles.. Guys like Ingram, Pippen, Draymond or Hughes must be developed, which Lebron can't do because his abnormal ball-dominance for his size and position imposes spot-up roles (stats above).. These spot-up roles stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win, aka Lebron's skillset lacks the teammate development, fits or brand of ball to win organically and must resort to talent-based winning (team-hopping; all-star team strategy).
.................................................. ........APG......... ASSISTED RATE
Wade before Lebron (04'-10'):............ 6.6 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2004-2010-sum:per_game)..................29.2% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2004-2010-sum:shooting) <---- links to bballref data
Wade with... Lebron (11'-14'):............ 4.7 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2011-2014-sum:per_game)..................40.3% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wadedw01.html#2011-2014-sum:shooting)
Irving before Lebron (12'-14'):........... 5.8 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2012-2014-sum:per_game)..................31.9% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2012-2014-sum:shooting)
Irving with... Lebron (15-17'):............ 5.0 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2017-sum:per_game)..................32.7% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2016-sum:shooting)
Bosh before Lebron (04'-10'):............. 2.2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2004-2010-sum:per_game)..................55.8% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2004-2010-sum:shooting)
Bosh with... Lebron (11'-14'):............. 1.6 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:per_game) .................71.6% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:shooting)
Love before Lebron (09'-14'):............. 2.5 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2009-2014-sum:per_game)...................62.7% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2009-2014-sum:shooting)
Love with...Lebron (15'-18'):.............. 2.3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2015-2018-sum:per_game) ..................80.0% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2015-2018-sum:shooting)
Mo Will before Lebron (05'-08'):......... 5.7 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2005-2008-sum:per_game)...................39.2% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2004-2008-sum:shooting)
Mo Will with... Lebron (09'-10'):......... 4.6 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2009-2010-sum:per_game)...................47.6% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2009-2010-sum:shooting)
FYI...
Pippen with... Jordan 91'-93':............. 6.5 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:per_game)
Pippen w/out Jordan 94'-95':............. 5.4 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1994-1995-sum:per_game)
Pippen with... Jordan 96'-98':............. 5.8 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:per_game)
When Lebron returns, he'll become a 2nd player in the Lakers' starting lineup with a point guard hold-time, which abnormally-lowers teammates assists and yields a low-assist TEAM that can't hang on the championship level regardless of cast (low team ceilings/Finals records).
It's impossible for a young ball-handler to develop when a teammate is lowering everyone's assists, which is why Ingram saw a 1-year drop across the board alongside Lebron (3-point efficiency, PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP), along with other ball-handlers like Wade, Hughes, Westbrook, Rose, IT, Clarkson and also forwards like Kuzma, Bosh, Love, or Jamison.
The only player-types that don't decline alongside Lebron are elite shooters (Mo/Kyrie) or low-caliber guys like Delly that are already spot-up shooters.
But developing a "Delly" won't win titles.. Guys like Ingram, Pippen, Draymond or Hughes must be developed, which Lebron can't do because his abnormal ball-dominance for his size and position imposes spot-up roles (stats above).. These spot-up roles stall young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win, aka Lebron's skillset lacks the teammate development, fits or brand of ball to win organically and must resort to talent-based winning (team-hopping; all-star team strategy).