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GrayGoat
03-26-2023, 06:43 PM
Thoughts? Seems to be a mental midget

Xiao Yao You
03-26-2023, 06:47 PM
Wilt!

Druckenmiller
03-26-2023, 06:58 PM
Sunday is a day for rest.

— The Lord

3ba11
03-26-2023, 07:38 PM
Lebron's abnormall ball-dominance imposes spot-up roles, so teammates like AD, Ingram, Reaves, Wade and Pippen can't play their best game..

It's the story of Lebron's career.

a career of bad fits and weak chemistry that underachieves the on-paper talent.. The only time he didn't underachieve the talent was when Mo's all-star spacing elevated Lebron's stiff arm skillset and that was the surprise factor - Mo taught us how much Lebron needs spacing and opponents easily gameplanned like the 1-star, injured, underdog Magic

GrayGoat
03-26-2023, 07:46 PM
Lebron's abnormall ball-dominance imposes spot-up roles, so teammates like AD, Ingram, Reaves, Wade and Pippen can't play their best game..

It's the story of Lebron's career.

a career of bad fits and weak chemistry that underachieves the on-paper talent.. The only time he didn't underachieve the talent was when Mo's all-star spacing elevated Lebron's stiff arm skillset and that was the surprise factor - Mo taught us how much Lebron needs spacing and opponents easily gameplanned like the 1-star, injured, underdog Magic

LeBron was on the bench and played 6 less minutes. Next

3ba11
03-26-2023, 07:49 PM
LeBron was on the bench and played 6 less minutes. Next


Lebron doesn't play 5 positions as proven by 2 decades of bad teammate fits and chemistry, or point guard stats like hold-time & assisted rate, or imposing spot-up roles like a point guard (reducing teammate assists and increasing their assisted rate/play-finishing) - so all the stats confirm that he has a point guard skillset and no stats indicate otherwise...

In addition to having a point guard skillset (doesn't play 5 positions), his lack of all-time hoops IQ is confirmed by zero player development into significant contributors, while significant teammates saw stat reduction due to the imposition of spot-up roles.. Low-assist teams and never having the top offense (lower strategic capacity/coaching) further confirm his lack of all-time IQ.,

So he doesn't have all-time hoops IQ or play 5 positions, while also never carrying teams at an all-time level.. i.e. the all-star duo of Lebron/Zydrunas added a HOF coach and 22/5/5 all-defender to make the 06' Playoffs and were only winning 45-50 games until Lebron's stiff arm got the all-star spacing it needed in 09'.. That's hardly an all-time level of carrying.. And Kyrie played 12 of 14 games in the 15' East Playoffs, while Love was the only perennial all-star sidekick in the 18' East, so the only time that Lebron carried a 1-star team to the Finals was 2007 when everyone was doing it (Iverson, Kidd, Dwight).. Ultimately, stats confirm that the 06-10' Cavs had more help on both sides of the ball than the 1990 Bulls - this includes top 10 defenses vs #19 for the Bulls and more offensive help (Pippen had lower PPG, efficiency, PER and WS than all-stars Mo/Big Z or the Hughes/Jamison acquisitions).

LeGoat4Life
03-26-2023, 09:32 PM
The LeDeadWeight factor

FKAri
03-26-2023, 09:52 PM
He sees LeBron breaking down but is too beta to assume control of the team.

Full Court
03-26-2023, 10:08 PM
The LeShrivel effect.

Hey Yo
03-26-2023, 10:11 PM
He sees LeBron breaking down but is too beta to assume control of the team.

eot


Tell him what he's won, Johhny!!!

SouBeachTalents
03-26-2023, 10:13 PM
Lebron's abnormall ball-dominance imposes spot-up roles, so teammates like AD, Ingram, Reaves, Wade and Pippen can't play their best game..

It's the story of Lebron's career.

a career of bad fits and weak chemistry that underachieves the on-paper talent.. The only time he didn't underachieve the talent was when Mo's all-star spacing elevated Lebron's stiff arm skillset and that was the surprise factor - Mo taught us how much Lebron needs spacing and opponents easily gameplanned like the 1-star, injured, underdog Magic
AD can't play his best game with LeBron but was Hakeem according to you in 2020?

You're a fakkit :lol

Axe
03-26-2023, 10:17 PM
Wilt!
:yaohappy:

Axe
03-26-2023, 10:17 PM
Sunday is a day for rest.

— The Lord
:roll:

ImKobe
03-27-2023, 05:18 AM
AD can't play his best game with LeBron but was Hakeem according to you in 2020?

You're a fakkit :lol

Bran hurts their spacing as he's no longer a threat from 3.. He's shooting Westbrick numbers from deep while taking nearly 7 a game (30.8% lol), AD has more space with Reaves or D'Lo running the offense.

Axe
03-27-2023, 05:40 AM
Bran hurts their spacing as he's no longer a threat from 3.. He's shooting Westbrick numbers from deep while taking nearly 7 a game (30.8% lol), AD has more space with Reaves or D'Lo running the offense.
You are calling him 'westbrick' now when just a couple of weeks ago, you were defending his ass while the others were calling him out for being a net negative with his former team? :biggums:

Wow, the audacity. :kobe:

aj1987
03-27-2023, 06:41 AM
Bran hurts their spacing as he's no longer a threat from 3.. He's shooting Westbrick numbers from deep while taking nearly 7 a game (30.8% lol), AD has more space with Reaves or D'Lo running the offense.

LMAO. Was LeBron hurting the spacing when AD went 6/15 for 15 points against the Magic? How about the game vs Dallas, when he took only 14 shots? 8 point game vs Toronto? 17 point game vs the Knicks? Reaves and AD also played significantly more minutes than LeBron and LeBron came off the bench. He played a bunch of minutes without AD as well. AD had 15/9 in 36 minutes and he was passive AF. Dude was getting bullied by midgets and Drummond. He's been like this for a while.

ImKobe
03-27-2023, 08:11 AM
LMAO. Was LeBron hurting the spacing when AD went 6/15 for 15 points against the Magic? How about the game vs Dallas, when he took only 14 shots? 8 point game vs Toronto? 17 point game vs the Knicks? Reaves and AD also played significantly more minutes than LeBron and LeBron came off the bench. He played a bunch of minutes without AD as well. AD had 15/9 in 36 minutes and he was passive AF. Dude was getting bullied by midgets and Drummond. He's been like this for a while.

Those teams doubled him hard but the difference in those games was that Reaves and D'lo made them pay from the perimeter.. Bran playing with a foot injury probably won't be able to get as many looks off the dribble. Bulls played plenty of zone and Lakers couldn't hit those deep shots. He's not getting bullied, he's just constantly forced to hold the last line of the defense with guys getting dribble penetration vs. some of the poor perimeter defenders on the team and he's constantly going from helping on the perimeter to recovering inside to protect the paint which means in some cases he's going to look bad as the guy has a step on him. Davis had a decent game offensively considering the defense he was facing with him finding open guys and not forcing bad shots but some of the unforced TOs killed the Lakers. Bulls are surprisingly good though and are on a hot streak so it's not like they lost to a bad team. Losing the TO battle is what did them in and some of that was Reaves/Bran trying to get the ball to AD.

Bron is injured and old so he has an out but that was not a good game by him either, they need at least one of the two to have a big game on most nights against the better teams.

sbw19
03-27-2023, 08:11 AM
Foul trouble. He's our primary defender and Is prone to picking up fouls vs teams with good slashers. He's been attacking the basket a lot and carrying the team of late, one of those games. I thought turnovers did us in again. Just frustrating.

HoopsNY
03-27-2023, 09:10 AM
LMAO. Was LeBron hurting the spacing when AD went 6/15 for 15 points against the Magic? How about the game vs Dallas, when he took only 14 shots? 8 point game vs Toronto? 17 point game vs the Knicks? Reaves and AD also played significantly more minutes than LeBron and LeBron came off the bench. He played a bunch of minutes without AD as well. AD had 15/9 in 36 minutes and he was passive AF. Dude was getting bullied by midgets and Drummond. He's been like this for a while.

He's played 21 games this season without LeBron so I'm not sure isolating 3 of his 4 worst games in that stretch makes much sense. Overall, though, he's put up 28/14/2/2 on 54% in his absence. That's not too shabby.

Vino24
03-27-2023, 03:03 PM
Foul trouble. He's our primary defender and Is prone to picking up fouls vs teams with good slashers. He's been attacking the basket a lot and carrying the team of late, one of those games. I thought turnovers did us in again. Just frustrating.

How does fouls trouble stop you from shooting? Defending aggressively I understand but shooting? Lol

Xiao Yao You
03-27-2023, 03:08 PM
Those teams doubled him hard but the difference in those games was that Reaves and D'lo made them pay from the perimeter.. Bran playing with a foot injury probably won't be able to get as many looks off the dribble. Bulls played plenty of zone and Lakers couldn't hit those deep shots. He's not getting bullied, he's just constantly forced to hold the last line of the defense with guys getting dribble penetration vs. some of the poor perimeter defenders on the team and he's constantly going from helping on the perimeter to recovering inside to protect the paint which means in some cases he's going to look bad as the guy has a step on him. Davis had a decent game offensively considering the defense he was facing with him finding open guys and not forcing bad shots but some of the unforced TOs killed the Lakers. Bulls are surprisingly good though and are on a hot streak so it's not like they lost to a bad team. Losing the TO battle is what did them in and some of that was Reaves/Bran trying to get the ball to AD.

Bron is injured and old so he has an out but that was not a good game by him either, they need at least one of the two to have a big game on most nights against the better teams.

sounds like he's unplayable if he can't guard the perimeter and the rim at the same time

Vino24
03-27-2023, 03:11 PM
AD is no Gobert that’s for sure

ImKobe
03-28-2023, 12:40 AM
sounds like he's unplayable if he can't guard the perimeter and the rim at the same time

Yeah it's pretty much like the Gobert situation in Utah though the Lakers do have some better & more athletic options on the perimeter that the Jazz didn't. Lakers have the #1 defense in the league since the trade deadline so DPOY Davis has been doing his job. A healthy Lebron helps their defense but is he going to be healthy at all this year? We've seen him deal with injury late in the season before. In 2021 he came back from a high ankle sprain, they got into the POs but Bran had no lift and he wasn't getting back on D by the end of that Suns series and I'm afraid it could be a similar situation this year.

sbw19
03-28-2023, 07:29 AM
How does fouls trouble stop you from shooting? Defending aggressively I understand but shooting? Lol

Here you go. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqAOSdIkoNk)

aj1987
03-28-2023, 09:30 AM
Those teams doubled him hard but the difference in those games was that Reaves and D'lo made them pay from the perimeter.. Bran playing with a foot injury probably won't be able to get as many looks off the dribble. Bulls played plenty of zone and Lakers couldn't hit those deep shots. He's not getting bullied, he's just constantly forced to hold the last line of the defense with guys getting dribble penetration vs. some of the poor perimeter defenders on the team and he's constantly going from helping on the perimeter to recovering inside to protect the paint which means in some cases he's going to look bad as the guy has a step on him. Davis had a decent game offensively considering the defense he was facing with him finding open guys and not forcing bad shots but some of the unforced TOs killed the Lakers. Bulls are surprisingly good though and are on a hot streak so it's not like they lost to a bad team. Losing the TO battle is what did them in and some of that was Reaves/Bran trying to get the ball to AD.

Bron is injured and old so he has an out but that was not a good game by him either, they need at least one of the two to have a big game on most nights against the better teams.

LMAO! You keep moving goal posts almost every single post. AD was barely doubled this game. After Vuc was ejected, they even had Jones guarding him. Drummond straight up owned him down low. AD always has these kind of games from time to time, where he's ridiculously passive. If it was LeBron who had a similar game, you'd be celebrating it and you would bring it up for the next 3 months. All these excuses for AD having a terrible showing, would you make these same ones for LeBron? Put your LeBron hate aside and try to actually watch the games.

Ignoring scoring, AD had only 9 rebounds. Again, this was a game without the Bulls' starting C and Drummond only played 18 minutes.

I never said LeBron had a good game. In fact, I said he should sit out until the last 3-4 games. Dude was mediocre this game. It is to be expected and I even said he's going to be hella rusty and it showed with his TOV's 2 of them weren't his fault (I remember one off the top of my head and it was him trying to feed someone in the post, not AD, and they fumbled it), but the other 3 were absolutely on him.

EDIT: AD isn't even in the top 20 in the league this season in double teams per game.

ArbitraryWater
03-28-2023, 10:36 AM
AD can't play his best game with LeBron but was Hakeem according to you in 2020?

You're a fakkit :lol


:lol


AD been everything...


Kareem, Hakeem, Wilt

Xiao Yao You
03-28-2023, 10:44 AM
The ironman is about to reach 50 games for the first time in 3 years!:cheers:

ImKobe
03-28-2023, 11:24 AM
LMAO! You keep moving goal posts almost every single post. AD was barely doubled this game. After Vuc was ejected, they even had Jones guarding him. Drummond straight up owned him down low. AD always has these kind of games from time to time, where he's ridiculously passive. If it was LeBron who had a similar game, you'd be celebrating it and you would bring it up for the next 3 months. All these excuses for AD having a terrible showing, would you make these same ones for LeBron? Put your LeBron hate aside and try to actually watch the games.

Ignoring scoring, AD had only 9 rebounds. Again, this was a game without the Bulls' starting C and Drummond only played 18 minutes.

I never said LeBron had a good game. In fact, I said he should sit out until the last 3-4 games. Dude was mediocre this game. It is to be expected and I even said he's going to be hella rusty and it showed with his TOV's 2 of them weren't his fault (I remember one off the top of my head and it was him trying to feed someone in the post, not AD, and they fumbled it), but the other 3 were absolutely on him.

EDIT: AD isn't even in the top 20 in the league this season in double teams per game.

Vucevic is a terrible defensive player lol, I don't think his ejection helped the Lakers at all, it had an opposite effect. He's a huge net-negative for Chicago defensively.

I'm not saying he was doubled all game but Bulls definitely tried to keep the ball out of his hands and had the defense geared towards him, plus Lakers had a bunch of TOs trying to get the ball to Davis.

Lakers didn't lose because of AD or because they got destroyed on the glass -- they lost because of the stupid TOs, plus the Bulls shot well above their average from 3 as well.

aj1987
04-03-2023, 05:05 PM
Vucevic is a terrible defensive player lol, I don't think his ejection helped the Lakers at all, it had an opposite effect. He's a huge net-negative for Chicago defensively.

I'm not saying he was doubled all game but Bulls definitely tried to keep the ball out of his hands and had the defense geared towards him, plus Lakers had a bunch of TOs trying to get the ball to Davis.

Lakers didn't lose because of AD or because they got destroyed on the glass -- they lost because of the stupid TOs, plus the Bulls shot well above their average from 3 as well.


LMAO! You just proved that you never watched a Bulls game (or for that matter, Vuc play at all). He's not a terrible defensive player at all. He's average on that end. Ignoring his defense, Vuc being in the game alone would've had AD a bit more worn as the game progressed. He's a huge dude.

Lets say Vuc is the worst defender in the history of the NBA, he'd still be a better defender on AD than ****ing Jones.

The Lakers got out rebounded by 4 and AD had 9. So, who's to blame for that? LeBron had 8 in 6 fewer minutes. Brown had 6 in 3 fewer minutes.

AD has been a monster, but that loss was absolutely on him. He was extremely passive and uninterested. Watch that game and the one after that, in which he dropped 38/9/4/2/2. Dude was absolutely passive AF in the first game.