School Shooting. Red State. Christian School.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Question for the Evangelical MAGAS.

Was God not allowed in this school?

[SouBeachTalents]

Damn, a FEMALE shooter :biggums:

That’s legit the first time I’ve heard of that happening.

And I have to say, it’s fcking sick how people turn every tragedy into a political point, including in this case the deaths of children.

[BigKobeFan]

It was a TRANSGENDER. A person with serious mental illness.

[JohnnySic]

Shooter was a woman pretending to be a man. This will disappear from the news cycle in approximately 18 seconds.

If you're quick and you listen closely, you can almost hear the scrambling happening behind the scenes at the major news outlets.

[JohnnySic]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsQpOuvXwAMUtEA?format=jpg&name=small

[JohnnySic]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsQpLqbXsAQmYZr?format=jpg&name=small

[BigKobeFan]

Shooter was a woman pretending to be a man. This will disappear from the news cycle in approximately 18 seconds.

If you're quick and you listen closely, you can almost hear the scrambling happening behind the scenes at the major news outlets.

Is it a man or a woman? I read its a dude trying to be a woman

[KNOW1EDGE]

Oof this thread is a major backfire for your political agenda.

[SaltyMeatballs]

Those of you who still only blame mental illness for these horrific school shootings are the reason why there aren't stricter gun laws in the US. It's obvious that having stricter laws on guns would significantly lower the rate of these shootings. People suffer from mental illness in every country and yet the US is by far and away the country with the most shootings because of the lack of gun control we have

"B-B-BUT MAH GUNS!! I need my gunsss!" Shut the **** up.

[Jasper]

dam woman always trying to do what we do best ... be the best Mega man protesting life.

[BigKobeFan]

Those of you who still only blame mental illness for these horrific school shootings are the reason why there aren't stricter gun laws in the US. It's obvious that having stricter laws on guns would significantly lower the rate of these shootings. People suffer from mental illness in every country and yet the US is by far and away the country with the most shootings because of the lack of gun control we have

"B-B-BUT MAH GUNS!! I need my gunsss!" Shut the **** up.

So how is banning gun sales going to stop a man from getting a gun?

1. There are billion of guns in america. How do you intend to confiscate it all?

2. After its all confiscated, how do you stop a guy with a mill from milling more guns?

3. After a gun is milled, how do we stop a criminal from purchasing said guns?

Please answer these practical questions before you make a general statement of "ban all guns"

[SaltyMeatballs]

So how is banning gun sales going to stop a man from getting a gun?

1. There are billion of guns in america. How do you intend to confiscate it all?

2. After its all confiscated, how do you stop a guy with a mill from milling more guns?

3. After a gun is milled, how do we stop a criminal from purchasing said guns?

Please answer these practical questions before you make a general statement of "ban all guns"

Never said ban all guns. You'd have to be stupid to think that the rate of mass shootings wouldn't significantly decrease if STRICTER gun control laws are enforced.

Answer me this: How is the US far and away at the top of the list when it comes to mass shootings? There is a pretty strong correlation to the amount of mass shootings we have and the leniency of our gun laws and data backs that up.

If you actually care about the lives of innocent people, especially children, then you would be on the boat of enforcing stricter gun laws. Banning all guns would be dumb, but having stronger rules would be the right decision ESPECIALLY after all these shootings over the years.

[BigKobeFan]

Never said ban all guns. You'd have to be stupid to think that the rate of mass shootings wouldn't significantly decrease if STRICTER gun control laws are enforced.

Answer me this: How is the US far and away at the top of the list when it comes to mass shootings? There is a pretty strong correlation to the amount of mass shootings we have and the leniency of our gun laws and data backs that up.

If you actually care about the lives of innocent people, especially children, then you would be on the boat of enforcing stricter gun laws. Banning all guns would be dumb, but having stronger rules would be the right decision ESPECIALLY after all these shootings over the years.

Answer my question chief.

But I'll answer yours. I would arm the school with officers and lock all gates except one way to get in. What stricter laws do you want or am proposing?

Here are the gun deaths by country. Where's the United states?

https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country/

[SaltyMeatballs]

Answer my question chief.

But I'll answer yours. I would arm the school with officers and lock all gates except one way to get in. What stricter laws do you want or am proposing?

Here are the gun deaths by country. Where's the United states?

https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country/

Sure. First question doesn't apply because I don't support banning ALL guns. In order to stop a criminal from purchasing guns, we should have much stricter background checks across the entire US.

And sure it would help to arm a school with officers and lock all gates but that doesn't solve the problem of mass shootings that don't take place in schools. The easy access to guns for criminals and people with mental illness is why so many shootings have happened in the US.

Here is the data I have been referring to:

https://i.ibb.co/RbBsnHJ/Rcac-a-2052126-f0001-oc.jpg

Amount of mass shootings in developed countries ^

https://i.ibb.co/TRC18rG/Firearm-Page-1.png

[BigKobeFan]

Sure. First question doesn't apply because I don't support banning ALL guns. In order to stop a criminal from purchasing guns, we should have much stricter background checks across the entire US.

And sure it would help to arm a school with officers and lock all gates but that doesn't solve the problem of mass shootings that don't take place in schools. The easy access to guns for criminals and people with mental illness is why so many shootings have happened in the US.

Here is the data I have been referring to:

https://i.ibb.co/RbBsnHJ/Rcac-a-2052126-f0001-oc.jpg

Amount of mass shootings in developed countries ^

https://i.ibb.co/TRC18rG/Firearm-Page-1.png

What a ****ing retard

Criminals cannot purchase guns already

[TheMan]

Question for the Evangelical MAGAS.

Was God not allowed in this school?

What a dilemma, huh?

[SaltyMeatballs]

What a ****ing retard

Criminals cannot purchase guns already

Yeah go ahead and ignore my other points you ****ing birdbrain :oldlol:

Your idea to stop mass shootings is to arm all schools with officers and lock all gates is so stupid because that doesn’t solve mass shootings outside of schools. No point in arguing with retards who are so close minded

[baudkarma]

Answer my question chief.

But I'll answer yours. I would arm the school with officers and lock all gates except one way to get in. What stricter laws do you want or am proposing?

Here are the gun deaths by country. Where's the United states?

https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country/

The high school I graduated from had 2,728 students for the 2018-19 school year. Add teachers and faculty, and you've got around 3,000 people to get into the building through that one door. How long will that take? And what if there's an emergency (fire, gas leak, bomb threat) and those people need to get out of the building? I'm sure nobody will panic and the evacuation will be peaceful and orderly.

Armed officers sounds great, except there have been way too many school shooting in recent years where officers stood around outside and didn't do squat while kids were being killed inside.

[Off the Court]

So how is banning gun sales going to stop a man from getting a gun?

1. There are billion of guns in america. How do you intend to confiscate it all?

2. After its all confiscated, how do you stop a guy with a mill from milling more guns?

3. After a gun is milled, how do we stop a criminal from purchasing said guns?

Please answer these practical questions before you make a general statement of "ban all guns"

The US will never be able to get rid of 100% of all gun deaths, it's important to not think is such black and white ways.

We have to make it more difficult for insane people to acquire them, resulting in LOWER gun death rates. This tranny isn't going to visit an inner city black market to purchase illigal guns.

Australia accomplished this, so we know it can be done.

Why do you not want stricter gun laws? If you are a law abiding adult who can get your own guns, why would you not want it to be more difficult for sickos to get purchase them?

[BigKobeFan]

Yeah go ahead and ignore my other points you ****ing birdbrain :oldlol:

Your idea to stop mass shootings is to arm all schools with officers and lock all gates is so stupid because that doesn’t solve mass shootings outside of schools. No point in arguing with retards who are so close minded

When was the last time you saw a mass shooting where the perp is waiting outside the door for people to come out and shoot? This isnt scarface bro

[BigKobeFan]

The US will never be able to get rid of 100% of all gun deaths, it's important to not think is such black and white ways.

We have to make it more difficult for insane people to acquire them, resulting in LOWER gun death rates. This tranny isn't going to visit an inner city black market to purchase illigal guns.

Australia accomplished this, so we know it can be done.

Why do you not want stricter gun laws? If you are a law abiding adult who can get your own guns, why would you not want it to be more difficult for sickos to get purchase them?

What regulation are u proposing for this stricter gun law measure? All you do is copy what cnn says and say we need stricter laws. So what is it that you want?

[BigKobeFan]

The high school I graduated from had 2,728 students for the 2018-19 school year. Add teachers and faculty, and you've got around 3,000 people to get into the building through that one door. How long will that take? And what if there's an emergency (fire, gas leak, bomb threat) and those people need to get out of the building? I'm sure nobody will panic and the evacuation will be peaceful and orderly.

Armed officers sounds great, except there have been way too many school shooting in recent years where officers stood around outside and didn't do squat while kids were being killed inside.

So youve never heard of one way doors? That lock from the outside?

[warriorfan]

lmao at the cucks in this thread

[rawimpact]

Politics aside she looks like that eleven girl from stranger things

[Patrick Chewing]

Those of you who still only blame mental illness for these horrific school shootings are the reason why there aren't stricter gun laws in the US. It's obvious that having stricter laws on guns would significantly lower the rate of these shootings. People suffer from mental illness in every country and yet the US is by far and away the country with the most shootings because of the lack of gun control we have

"B-B-BUT MAH GUNS!! I need my gunsss!" Shut the **** up.

The usual non-argument from the dumb anti-gun crowd.

Explain to us what stricter gun laws is. What does "stricter gun laws" mean to you? It's comical how you say it's obvious stricter gun laws would significantly lower the rate of these shootings, but Neanderthals such as yourself never truly explain what that is. Just another buzz word or buzz phrase to spout so you can feel like you're doing something about it.

[Patrick Chewing]

Never said ban all guns. You'd have to be stupid to think that the rate of mass shootings wouldn't significantly decrease if STRICTER gun control laws are enforced.

Answer me this: How is the US far and away at the top of the list when it comes to mass shootings? There is a pretty strong correlation to the amount of mass shootings we have and the leniency of our gun laws and data backs that up.

If you actually care about the lives of innocent people, especially children, then you would be on the boat of enforcing stricter gun laws. Banning all guns would be dumb, but having stronger rules would be the right decision ESPECIALLY after all these shootings over the years.

Oof, this ape now CAPITALIZED the word STRICTER so we can all know that he means business. But again, this is such an empty statement without meaning.

But of course we know exactly what Salty Bitchballs is talking about. He's talking about a gun ban. This clown ain't fooling anyone.

[Patrick Chewing]

What regulation are u proposing for this stricter gun law measure? All you do is copy what cnn says and say we need stricter laws. So what is it that you want?

These people are incapable of answering the question. They linger in that gray area forever between a full-on gun ban and them saying they're not coming for your guns. They will never take a side one way or the other cause they are cowards. That's why they never define what the word "Stricter" means to them. They get off on just coming on an internet message board and shoving the word "stricter" in our face so that they can seem as being proactive to the situation. That word is their security blanket even though they have never officially taken a position.

[Off the Court]

Proposals have been thrown out for years, even decades now.

1. Deeper background checks, look into mental health background, drug prespcriptions etc. This shooter was probably on anti-depressants and could have been flagged from that.

2. Look into illegal drug and addiction history. Has the person been in treatment for drug abuse, etc. If you are being treated for meth addiction you shouldn't be allowed to purchase an AR15.

3. Raise age limits, this can be vary based on firearm type. 30+ to purchase assault weapons, 25+ an all firearms. This is no longer the wild west, 18 year olds don't need guns.

4. Regulate based on primary residence. Rural home owners have more options than urban homeowners. If you live in the city you don't need 20+ rifles.

5. Regulate the total number of guns allowed to own. No single person needs enough guns for an army.

6. Ban all gadget type devises like bump stocks, enormous clips, etc

7. Run buy back programs, this cleans black market guns off the streets.


And I'm not opposed to solutions offered by the gun nuts either. More security at schools is a good idea. Let's do all of it. It won't solve the issue 100% but it will decrease the amount of total deaths. It's time to stop being tribal about this and do something real.

[Patrick Chewing]

Proposals have been thrown out for years, even decades now.

1. Deeper background checks, look into mental health background, drug prespcriptions etc. This shooter was probably on anti-depressants and could have been flagged from that.

2. Look into illegal drug and addiction history. Has the person been in treatment for drug abuse, etc. If you are being treated for meth addiction you shouldn't be allowed to purchase an AR15.

3. Raise age limits, this can be vary based on firearm type. 30+ to purchase assault weapons, 25+ an all firearms. This is no longer the wild west, 18 year olds don't need guns.

4. Regulate based on primary residence. Rural home owners have more options than urban homeowners. If you live in the city you don't need 20+ rifles.

5. Regulate the total number of guns allowed to own. No single person needs enough guns for an army.

6. Ban all gadget type devises like bump stocks, enormous clips, etc

7. Run buy back programs, this cleans black market guns off the streets.


And I'm not opposed to solutions offered by the gun nuts either. More security at schools is a good idea. Let's do all of it. It won't solve the issue 100% but it will decrease the amount of total deaths. It's time to stop being tribal about this and do something real.

While all those proposals would be agreed upon by people on both sides of the aisle, which one of these proposals would have singled out this most recent shooter? Which one would she have raised a red flag on that would have prohibited her from obtaining the weapons she purchased?

The anti-depressant proposal will never hold and can be dismantled right away. Suffering from depression is not a recipe for mass murder. You cannot make that connection. I suffer from depression and the last thing I want to do is go on a shooting spree.

Age limit can be dismantled too. Plenty of people over 25 or 30 kill too. I don't think someone hellbent on killing is going to feel less likely to kill if they realize they can't obtain a gun until they reach a certain age. I'm not saying I disagree. I'm saying this is a band-aid for the inevitable.

And finally, the amount of guns a person owns can be dismantled too. You can own 100 guns, but if you're going to commit mass murder, you can't bring all 100 guns with you.

[BigKobeFan]

Proposals have been thrown out for years, even decades now.

1. Deeper background checks, look into mental health background, drug prespcriptions etc. This shooter was probably on anti-depressants and could have been flagged from that.

2. Look into illegal drug and addiction history. Has the person been in treatment for drug abuse, etc. If you are being treated for meth addiction you shouldn't be allowed to purchase an AR15.

3. Raise age limits, this can be vary based on firearm type. 30+ to purchase assault weapons, 25+ an all firearms. This is no longer the wild west, 18 year olds don't need guns.

4. Regulate based on primary residence. Rural home owners have more options than urban homeowners. If you live in the city you don't need 20+ rifles.

5. Regulate the total number of guns allowed to own. No single person needs enough guns for an army.

6. Ban all gadget type devises like bump stocks, enormous clips, etc

7. Run buy back programs, this cleans black market guns off the streets.


And I'm not opposed to solutions offered by the gun nuts either. More security at schools is a good idea. Let's do all of it. It won't solve the issue 100% but it will decrease the amount of total deaths. It's time to stop being tribal about this and do something real.

1. We all agree to this. No one with mental issues like the shooter should own a gun.
2. This is the same as #1
3. Age limits do not limit a shooter, the shooter here is 28 years old. Limiting the total amount of firearms will do NOTHING. Recent shooters have 5-10 guns, your limits solve nothing
4. same as #3
5. again same as #3
6. california has all of these regulations in place, yet look at what happened in Monterey Park
7. Now I know you are a joke. This is the same as selling drugs to the government as a buy back program

[diamenz]

guns are only part of the equation. guns or no guns, people find a way to kill. guns are just convenient. stricter gun laws may prolong a premeditated shooting or force the shooter to go another route to kill people, but ultimately they're gonna get the job done. bombs, vehicles, whatever.

unfortunately, this is ingrained into our culture at this point. i wonder how many potential shooters there are right now who saw this shooting on the news and are contemplating their chance. it doesn't take much for someone who's 'had it up to here' to snap.

[RRR3]

The answer as always is better mental health care. There are other countries that haven’t banned guns that don’t have the problem the US does with shootings so guns being legal isn’t the cause. Additionally, banning guns for everyone besides law enforcement makes a fascist takeover very easy

[diamenz]

The answer as always is better mental health care. There are other countries that haven’t banned guns that don’t have the problem the US does with shootings so guns being legal isn’t the cause. Additionally, banning guns for everyone besides law enforcement makes a fascist takeover very easy

republicans don't want to propose any sort of universal hc program and to be fair, neither do dems.

[Patrick Chewing]

The answer as always is better mental health care. There are other countries that haven’t banned guns that don’t have the problem the US does with shootings so guns being legal isn’t the cause. Additionally, banning guns for everyone besides law enforcement makes a fascist takeover very easy

Well said, RRR3.


(things you thought I would never say)

[Lakers Legend#32]

Other countries have mental health care issues but they do not come close to the gun related violence in 'Murica.

The problem is the all too easy access to guns.

[Lakers Legend#32]

And the Republicans non-response?

Calls for a Christian revival.

This shooting took place in a Christian school.

Where was Jesus?

On a cigarette break?

[Gruppenführer]

And the Republicans non-response?

Calls for a Christian revival.

This shooting took place in a Christian school.

Where was Jesus?

On a cigarette break?


What in God's name are you babbling about??

[BigKobeFan]

What in God's name are you babbling about??

this guy throws everything against the wall and hopes something sticks. When it sticks, he has jasper, blade, axe, retard3, off the hinge defend his point

[SaltyMeatballs]

The usual non-argument from the dumb anti-gun crowd.

Explain to us what stricter gun laws is. What does "stricter gun laws" mean to you? It's comical how you say it's obvious stricter gun laws would significantly lower the rate of these shootings, but Neanderthals such as yourself never truly explain what that is. Just another buzz word or buzz phrase to spout so you can feel like you're doing something about it.

You realize homicide rates are higher in states with weaker gun laws right genius? :oldlol:

[SaltyMeatballs]

Oof, this ape now CAPITALIZED the word STRICTER so we can all know that he means business. But again, this is such an empty statement without meaning.

But of course we know exactly what Salty Bitchballs is talking about. He's talking about a gun ban. This clown ain't fooling anyone.

Please show me where I implied banning all guns because I explicitly said I don't support banning all guns. You'd be a complete dumb **** to think that having stricter gun laws wouldn't lower the rate of mass shootings.

And the fact that you sound like you care more about guns than the possibility of reducing the deaths of innocent people shows what kind of shitty person you really are. But then again, im not really surprised

[Patrick Chewing]

You realize homicide rates are higher in states with weaker gun laws right genius? :oldlol:

What weaker gun laws? Do you even know what the gun laws are from state to state? It's almost impossible to obtain a gun in Chicago and New York, but yet gun crime is up since 2019.

Last time I checked, murder was still illegal. Shooting someone was still illegal. Robbing someone with a gun was still illegal.

Again, if you can't differentiate between weaker and stricter laws, then you shouldn't be talking about the subject at hand.

[SaltyMeatballs]

What weaker gun laws? Do you even know what the gun laws are from state to state? It's almost impossible to obtain a gun in Chicago and New York, but yet gun crime is up since 2019.

Last time I checked, murder was still illegal. Shooting someone was still illegal. Robbing someone with a gun was still illegal.

Again, if you can't differentiate between weaker and stricter laws, then you shouldn't be talking about the subject at hand.

Yeah no shit its all illegal. The problem is that people who clearly have issues and/or are too young have easy access to owning a gun. The Robb Elementary school shooter from last year was 18. There's no way in hell that an 18 year old should have a gun

[Off the Court]

Conservatives: "restrictions do nothing"

So why not make full auto everything and hand grenades legal to anyone over age 8? It's because it would result in MORE deaths than we currently have now obviously. The more we adjust the slider, the less deaths. Currently our slider is in the "retardedly too easy to acquire firearms" section in bright red. We need to move it over to the middle more.

[Off the Court]

https://i.ibb.co/RbBsnHJ/Rcac-a-2052126-f0001-oc.jpg

Amount of mass shootings in developed countries ^

https://i.ibb.co/TRC18rG/Firearm-Page-1.png

You have to be mentally disabled to look at these graphs and then conclude that gun legality means nothing.

[Patrick Chewing]

Please show me where I implied banning all guns because I explicitly said I don't support banning all guns. You'd be a complete dumb **** to think that having stricter gun laws wouldn't lower the rate of mass shootings.

And the fact that you sound like you care more about guns than the possibility of reducing the deaths of innocent people shows what kind of shitty person you really are. But then again, im not really surprised

And yet you double down again by using the word "stricter" for like the 100th time in this thread. What does "stricter gun laws" look like to you? Again, with the laws that are currently in place, what else can be changed? I'm clowning on you cause I don't think you fully understand the scope of what you're talking about. You make wild accusations and assumptions and the only thing people like me ask of you, is to be more specific. Otherwise, please let the grown ups discuss what are the causes and solutions to gun violence.

[Patrick Chewing]

Yeah no shit its all illegal. The problem is that people who clearly have issues and/or are too young have easy access to owning a gun. The Robb Elementary school shooter from last year was 18. There's no way in hell that an 18 year old should have a gun

And this girl was 28. So that destroys your argument right there. Again, what are REAL solutions?


18 year olds are given guns when they join the military. 15 year olds can drive a car. There are more automobile deaths each year as opposed to gun deaths. And banning an 18 year old from obtaining a gun doesn't mean that person won't buy a gun at 19, 25, or 30 years of age to kill. When someone has it in their mind to kill, they will kill.

There are more guns in the United States than there are people. If their truly was a gun problem, this country would be empty. There wouldn't be any more traffic on the roadway.

[SaltyMeatballs]

And yet you double down again by using the word "stricter" for like the 100th time in this thread. What does "stricter gun laws" look like to you? Again, with the laws that are currently in place, what else can be changed? I'm clowning on you cause I don't think you fully understand the scope of what you're talking about. You make wild accusations and assumptions and the only thing people like me ask of you, is to be more specific. Otherwise, please let the grown ups discuss what are the causes and solutions to gun violence.

You want me to be specific? Sure.

Have background checks for all gun purchases, including gun shows and private sales. This is a huge one. Not to mention, some gun shows have people without a license selling firearms which can lead to guns being sold without a background check. That needs to go away completely

Also there's obviously a problem with the US's mental health services. Funding on that needs to be increased so the services can help identify and treat people who may be at risk of committing violence.

And just to address your very last comment, stop talking to me like I'm some ****ing kid who knows nothing. Your big age isn't a measure of your intellect, and I've seen you say plenty of idiotic, immature things in the past where you resort to insults and name-calling whenever someone doesn't agree with you. Talk about reflecting a strong sense of superiority complex :oldlol:

[SaltyMeatballs]

And this girl was 28. So that destroys your argument right there. Again, what are REAL solutions?


18 year olds are given guns when they join the military. 15 year olds can drive a car. There are more automobile deaths each year as opposed to gun deaths. And banning an 18 year old from obtaining a gun doesn't mean that person won't buy a gun at 19, 25, or 30 years of age to kill. When someone has it in their mind to kill, they will kill.

There are more guns in the United States than there are people. If their truly was a gun problem, this country would be empty. There wouldn't be any more traffic on the roadway.

I brought up age to highlight that young adults should not have easy access to owning a gun, and it's clear that 28 year old had real mental issues which is also why I mentioned that people with clear issues should not have easy access as well.

[BigKobeFan]

You want me to be specific? Sure.

Have background checks for all gun purchases, including gun shows and private sales. This is a huge one. Not to mention, some gun shows have people without a license selling firearms which can lead to guns being sold without a background check. That needs to go away completely

Also there's obviously a problem with the US's mental health services. Funding on that needs to be increased so the services can help identify and treat people who may be at risk of committing violence.

And just to address your very last comment, stop talking to me like I'm some ****ing kid who knows nothing. Your big age isn't a measure of your intellect, and I've seen you say plenty of idiotic, immature things in the past where you resort to insults and name-calling whenever someone doesn't agree with you. Talk about reflecting a strong sense of superiority complex :oldlol:

Oh i love it when liberals use the gun show loop hole. There has been absolutely NO evidence that the sale of gun at gun shows have been involved in any mass shootings.

In california, you cannot buy any guns at any gun shows and walk out within minutes with a new gun. Yet here we are. a mass shooting in monterey park, california

[Patrick Chewing]

Outside of private sales, everywhere you go to buy a gun, a background check is performed. So this has already been implemented nationwide. I have gone to several gun shows in different states from Florida to New York, and every time someone buys a gun, they make you sign a form, and they scan your ID, and a background check is performed.


I have no issues with raising the age. Raise it to 21 or 25. It's not going to stop people from killing people. What I do have a problem with is uninvolved parents who don't know their children have weapons or have destructive thoughts. And if they do know, but do nothing, then they are equally as culpable. What I do have a problem with is sending billions and billions of dollars to foreign countries, as opposed to putting those same kind of resources and energy into mental health, the economy, education, etc. right here at home instead. This person wasn't born with the desire to kill. This person's life path led this person to kill. Take away the gun from this person and the intent to kill is still there.

I mean, a completely sane person with no criminal record and no record of mental health issues can buy a gun one day, and the next day they can snap and shoot up a school.


What the anti-gun crowd will have to accept is that violence and the propensity to kill will always be there. Since man's first footsteps on Earth, we have been a violent species. But, we have also been a species capable of wonderful and beautiful things. Violence and murder is part of our history, our species, our DNA. This will never change.

[SaltyMeatballs]

Oh i love it when liberals use the gun show loop hole. There has been absolutely NO evidence that the sale of gun at gun shows have been involved in any mass shootings.

In california, you cannot buy any guns at any gun shows and walk out within minutes with a new gun. Yet here we are. a mass shooting in monterey park, california

First off, I'm not a liberal. Secondly, the sale of guns without a background check at gun shows would still help limit the easy access people have to guns, even if it's by a tiny percentage

[Off the Court]

I mean, a completely sane person with no criminal record and no record of mental health issues can buy a gun one day, and the next day they can snap and shoot up a school.


This is more black and white mindset.

"We can't solve 100% of all gun murders with new laws therefor we shouldn't create new laws."





If raising the buying age to 25 gets us from 20k gun homicides a year to 19k gun homicides a year that is a huge W. The simple minded would still point at the 19k and declare that laws do nothing.

[diamenz]

The more we adjust the slider, the less deaths. Currently our slider is in the "retardedly too easy to acquire firearms" section in bright red. We need to move it over to the middle more.
:applause:

[diamenz]

What the anti-gun crowd will have to accept is that violence and the propensity to kill will always be there. Since man's first footsteps on Earth, we have been a violent species. But, we have also been a species capable of wonderful and beautiful things. Violence and murder is part of our history, our species, our DNA. This will never change.

:applause:

[n00bie]

If you're living in the U.S. you just have to get use to this. Mass shootings, along with guns will never go away. Don't like it? Move to a different country.

[Patrick Chewing]

This is more black and white mindset.

"We can't solve 100% of all gun murders with new laws therefor we shouldn't create new laws."





If raising the buying age to 25 gets us from 20k gun homicides a year to 19k gun homicides a year that is a huge W. The simple minded would still point at the 19k and declare that laws do nothing.


No, the point is that there are already pretty strict gun laws in this country, and yet murders still happen. So I will speak for you since you guys won't speak up for yourselves. Your ultimate goal will be a society with no guns in the hands of its citizens. Because we all know that at 19k murders, you'll be crying and calling for more laws to get to 18k murders and so on and so on.

And as you pump up people with the idea of more laws and more government, it still does nothing to address why people kill in the first place.

As I stated before, if there was truly a gun problem in this country, this country would be empty.


What you are seeing happening in this country is a combination of the following:

-Outright lawlessness because we glorify criminality in the media, entertainment, etc.
-Weak justice system that does not punish and put away violent offenders
-Lack of morality as a society. We aren't handling adversity anymore and in turn it creates an immoral sense of shutting down your opposition. The idea of treating others the way you would like to be treated is foreign to most people. The idea of walking away and taking the high road is foreign to most people.
-Lack of funding for mental health research. Why do you think those other countries don't have mass murderers? It's not because they don't have guns. It's because they lack the amount of crazy people allowed to roam free.

[RRR3]

republicans don't want to propose any sort of universal hc program and to be fair, neither do dems.
Very stupid of the Dems tbh, because they would never lose if they embraced social democracy.

[RRR3]

This is more black and white mindset.

"We can't solve 100% of all gun murders with new laws therefor we shouldn't create new laws."





If raising the buying age to 25 gets us from 20k gun homicides a year to 19k gun homicides a year that is a huge W. The simple minded would still point at the 19k and declare that laws do nothing.
I know you have a knee-jerk reaction to disagree with Chewy and I don't blame you (despite what he says he'd love to ban guns for black people so he isn't pro gun either), but like I said earlier, other countries with legal guns don't have these shootings. Also, with fascists like DeSantis possibly taking executive power soon and having an army of brownshirts, do you really want guns to be illegal for everyone except the feds?

[Axe]

If you're living in the U.S. you just have to get use to this. Mass shootings, along with guns will never go away. Don't like it? Move to a different country.
These shootings exist because they 'contribute' to the economy somehow.

[Off the Court]

I know you have a knee-jerk reaction to disagree with Chewy and I don't blame you (despite what he says he'd love to ban guns for black people so he isn't pro gun either), but like I said earlier, other countries with legal guns don't have these shootings. Also, with fascists like DeSantis possibly taking executive power soon and having an army of brownshirts, do you really want guns to be illegal for everyone except the feds?
The US is the easiest country in the planet to acquire a firearm. Period.

What countries are you taking about that are comparable?


I'm not undermining mental health here either, there needs to be focus on that, but also we need to make an effort for mentally ill sickos to not easily purchase assault weapons.

[warriorfan]

The US is the easiest country in the planet to acquire a firearm. Period.

What countries are you taking about that are comparable?


I'm not undermining mental health here either, there needs to be focus on that, but also we need to make an effort for mentally ill sickos to not easily purchase assault weapons.

have a cry about it

[RRR3]

The US is the easiest country in the planet to acquire a firearm. Period.

What countries are you taking about that are comparable?


I'm not undermining mental health here either, there needs to be focus on that, but also we need to make an effort for mentally ill sickos to not easily purchase assault weapons.
https://media.snopes.com/2020/12/yltpqxxlss6z.jpg

[Lakers Legend#32]

Repugs are going all in with the transphobia.

As if the shooter's identity made this happen.

Notice the ammosexuals never mention a shooter's identity when it is a white male (99% of the time).

[ZenMaster]

If you're living in the U.S. you just have to get use to this. Mass shootings, along with guns will never go away. Don't like it? Move to a different country.

True, it'll always be a violent society due to a lot of psychopaths running around. It's genetic and from the original immigrants, who were often crazy in one way or another.

[baudkarma]

Oh i love it when liberals use the gun show loop hole. There has been absolutely NO evidence that the sale of gun at gun shows have been involved in any mass shootings.

In california, you cannot buy any guns at any gun shows and walk out within minutes with a new gun. Yet here we are. a mass shooting in monterey park, california

"On November 22, 1998, their friend Robyn Anderson purchased the carbine rifle and the two shotguns for the pair at the Tanner Gun Show, as they were too young to legally purchase the guns themselves. After the attack, she told investigators that she had believed the pair wanted the weapons for target shooting, and denied that she had any prior knowledge of their plans. Anderson was not charged."

This is from the Wikipedia page about the Columbine High School Massacre.

[Patrick Chewing]

"On November 22, 1998, their friend Robyn Anderson purchased the carbine rifle and the two shotguns for the pair at the Tanner Gun Show, as they were too young to legally purchase the guns themselves. After the attack, she told investigators that she had believed the pair wanted the weapons for target shooting, and denied that she had any prior knowledge of their plans. Anderson was not charged."

This is from the Wikipedia page about the Columbine High School Massacre.

So their friend bought the guns legally and then later gave it to them. That wouldn't be classified as a gun show loophole. And the following statement is also true: Every gun used in a mass shooting was either bought at a gun show or at a gun store. There are no other alternatives unless you are referring to a government-issued weapon or a weapon created with a 3D printer.


And in other News:

BREAKING: Nashville Shooter Was Under Doctor’s Care for Emotional Disorder (https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/breaking-nashville-shooter-was-under-doctors-care-for-emotional-disorder-mace/?utm_source=collin&utm_medium=twitter)

[BigKobeFan]

So their friend bought the guns legally and then later gave it to them. That wouldn't be classified as a gun show loophole. And the following statement is also true: Every gun used in a mass shooting was either bought at a gun show or at a gun store. There are no other alternatives unless you are referring to a government-issued weapon or a weapon created with a 3D printer.


And in other News:

BREAKING: Nashville Shooter Was Under Doctor’s Care for Emotional Disorder (https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/breaking-nashville-shooter-was-under-doctors-care-for-emotional-disorder-mace/?utm_source=collin&utm_medium=twitter)

These clowns don't realize you can mill your own guns as long as you have the CAD files, which you can download somewhere.

[baudkarma]

The original claim was...


There has been absolutely NO evidence that the sale of gun at gun shows have been involved in any mass shootings.


Which is incorrect in at least the instance of the Columbine shootings. Yes, the guns were bought legally, but that's my point. Why go through the risk and extra expense of buying a gun on the black market or stealing one when it's so much easier to obtain one legally? Even a convicted felon who can't pass a background check can probably convince a friend or family member to obtain one for them.

[Lakers Legend#32]

BREAKING: Nashville Shooter Was Under Doctor’s Care for Emotional Disorder[/url][/B]

You admitted that's why you weren't posting the last couple weeks.

[BigKobeFan]

The original claim was...



Which is incorrect in at least the instance of the Columbine shootings. Yes, the guns were bought legally, but that's my point. Why go through the risk and extra expense of buying a gun on the black market or stealing one when it's so much easier to obtain one legally? Even a convicted felon who can't pass a background check can probably convince a friend or family member to obtain one for them.

stop moving the goal post.

[baudkarma]

These clowns don't realize you can mill your own guns as long as you have the CAD files, which you can download somewhere.

All I need are the CAD files? I don't need some expensive, specialized piece of equipment? I don't need the knowledge on how to use that piece of equipment? I don't need any raw materials? I don't need ammunition?

Just download the CAD files and a semi-auto will magically appear in your lap.

[baudkarma]

stop moving the goal post.

Were some of the guns involved in the Columbine shooting bought at a gun show?

[BigKobeFan]

All I need are the CAD files? I don't need some expensive, specialized piece of equipment? I don't need the knowledge on how to use that piece of equipment? I don't need any raw materials? I don't need ammunition?

Just download the CAD files and a semi-auto will magically appear in your lap.

$50k on a machine. You don't even need a 4 axis for this job. Thats all you need. You see how people mill airsoft guns? Yea. The same way.

You know the Monterey Park shooter was milling rifle accessories. He lived in a mobile home. So, what expensive equipment do you need?

[BigKobeFan]

Were some of the guns involved in the Columbine shooting bought at a gun show?

Your example is no different than taking the gun out of your mom's safe

[Off the Court]

And in other News:

BREAKING: Nashville Shooter Was Under Doctor’s Care for Emotional Disorder (https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/breaking-nashville-shooter-was-under-doctors-care-for-emotional-disorder-mace/?utm_source=collin&utm_medium=twitter)

Exactly

This sicko could have easily been flagged and unable to purchase guns legally. I don't know why anyone would be against that.

[Off the Court]

$50k on a machine. You don't even need a 4 axis for this job. Thats all you need. You see how people mill airsoft guns? Yea. The same way.

You know the Monterey Park shooter was milling rifle accessories. He lived in a mobile home. So, what expensive equipment do you need?

You think this trans sicko was going to do all this? :oldlol:

I'd rather force them go this route.



In theory an 8 year old could do this, does that mean we should just allow 8 year olds to legally purchase guns?

[BigKobeFan]

Exactly

This sicko could have easily been flagged and unable to purchase guns legally. I don't know why anyone would be against that.

no one is against selling guns to mentally deranged democrats.

[BigKobeFan]

You think this trans sicko was going to do all this? :oldlol:

I'd rather force them go this route.



In theory an 8 year old could do this, does that mean we should just allow 8 year olds to legally purchase guns?

Thanks for proving to me that ban on guns isn't going to work. Thanks again.

[Off the Court]

no one is against selling guns to mentally deranged democrats.
I am, why aren't you?

[Off the Court]

Thanks for proving to me that ban on guns isn't going to work. Thanks again.

Sure, laws don't matter because everyone would simply mill their own guns at home :roll:

[BigKobeFan]

Sure, laws don't matter because everyone would simply mill their own guns at home :roll:

You are very naive. You don't think criminals would do such a thing to flood the black market?

If they can sell tigers to people...what makes you think criminals can't get guns?

[BigKobeFan]

I am, why aren't you?

you got me for once on a typo with my phone...u got me once.

[n00bie]

This thread is as American as it gets. 2 sides arguing with each other with no end in sight, as mass shootings keep happening lol.

[GrayGoat]

This happened with a democrat in office

[SaltyMeatballs]

This happened with a democrat in office

Yeah like the political party of our incumbent president has any correlation to this. Clown ass comment

[GrayGoat]

Yeah like the political party of our incumbent president has any correlation to this. Clown ass comment

As much as a red state does dumbass

[SaltyMeatballs]

As much as a red state does dumbass

I'm not the one who claimed that you dumbass

[Patrick Chewing]

Yeah like the political party of our incumbent president has any correlation to this. Clown ass comment

When Biden and Democrats controlled the government, nothing was done. Now, that Republicans control the house, it's the fault of Republicans when a mass shooting happens.

I can't fathom how people still vote Democrat when they can clearly see how crooked and hypocritical that party is.

[BurningHammer]

This thread is as American as it gets. 2 sides arguing with each other with no end in sight, as mass shootings keep happening lol.

And they still keep going. So true. I guess that's American way of wasting time. :ohwell:

[Lakers Legend#32]

Thanks for proving to me that ban on guns isn't going to work. Thanks again.

"You can't ban guns because bans never work."--Every Republican Ammosexual who ever lived.

Yet the same Republicans are the ones who have banned abortion, contraception, books, drag queens, vaccines, honest history lessons, and talking about LGBTQ people.

[TheMan]

Every time there's a school shooting, everyone gets all up in arms (pun intended :lol), yet nothing significant ever happens to actually do something about it...

Wash, rinse and repeat :eek:

[Patrick Chewing]

Every time there's a school shooting, everyone gets all up in arms (pun intended :lol), yet nothing significant ever happens to actually do something about it...

Wash, rinse and repeat :eek:

It's really just the Left. The first attacks usually come from the Left as they blame Republicans and their love for guns. These people truly don't care about the victims. It's just another opportunity to rag on the Right.

[diamenz]

It's really just the Left. The first attacks usually come from the Left as they blame Republicans and their love for guns. These people truly don't care about the victims. It's just another opportunity to rag on the Right.

correct.

however...

let's not act like the right points to mental health and then proceeds to propose zero legislation.

let's not act like both sides are completely incompetent aside from finger pointing.

[diamenz]

Every time there's a school shooting, everyone gets all up in arms (pun intended :lol), yet nothing significant ever happens to actually do something about it...

Wash, rinse and repeat :eek:

the news cycle will be over soon enough.

[Off the Court]

Every time there's a school shooting, everyone gets all up in arms (pun intended :lol), yet nothing significant ever happens to actually do something about it...

Wash, rinse and repeat :eek:

Tribal politics are preventing any real progress.

Time to stop pointing fingers and incorporate some solutions. Test out some resolutions that are presented by both the right and the left.

[BigKobeFan]

Tribal politics are preventing any real progress.

Time to stop pointing fingers and incorporate some solutions. Test out some resolutions that are presented by both the right and the left.

You are one of the biggest problems.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Every vote for a Republican is a vote for school shootings.

[BurningHammer]

You are one of the biggest problems.

You talking about yourself? :oldlol:

[BigKobeFan]

You talking about yourself? :oldlol:

Im a 90s democrat u ****ing idiot