View Full Version : If so many people voted for Biden making him the most popular President ever....
Patrick Chewing
04-04-2023, 01:29 PM
Then how come his numbers are currently in the tank? How come he has approval ratings as low as 36% during his Presidency? Can anyone explain why he suddenly went from the most popular President with the highest number of votes, to being one of the lowest-rated Presidents almost overnight? How is that possible?
Off the Court
04-04-2023, 01:39 PM
You already know the answer. He got that many votes because everyone wanted Trump out. They weren't votes for Biden, they were votes against Trump.
And the only chance Biden has of winning again is if his opponent is Trump again. We saw what happened during midterms. Half of conservatives want to move on from Trump. He's divided the GOP which equates to wins for the Dems.
BigKobeFan
04-04-2023, 01:41 PM
They didnt want to waste time getting approval ratings from dead people
Patrick Chewing
04-04-2023, 01:41 PM
You already know the answer. He got that many votes because everyone wanted Trump out. They weren't votes for Biden, they were votes against Trump.
And the only chance Biden has of winning again is if his opponent is Trump again. We saw what happened during midterms. Half of conservatives want to move on from Trump. He's divided the GOP which equates to wins for the Dems.
That's an insane answer. How do you vote for a guy who has only made the country worse, just because you don't like Trump? This economy was better under Trump. World affairs were better under Trump. I know you know those are two factual statements.
You can't honestly expect people once again to vote for their demise, by voting in Biden who has only worsened things, just so that Trump is not President again. That's insanity.
SouBeachTalents
04-04-2023, 01:56 PM
This is how you know this dude is trolling. Literally an hour ago he said
And the sad reality is that there are people out there that truly want Trump dead. They want to kill him themselves if they could.
Now he's acting in total disbelief that this same man he just claimed people want to murder with their bare hands would want him out of office :lol
Patrick Chewing
04-04-2023, 02:00 PM
This is how you know this dude is trolling. Literally an hour ago he said
Now he's acting in total disbelief that this same man he just claimed people want to murder with their bare hands would want him out of office :lol
You can think I'm trolling all you want. That's your right. But I'm going to clue you in on something. There are people out there that don't think like you. They like different things than you like. They also dislike things that you may like. They have different opinions than you too. Not everyone is an exact clone of you or the way you think. Yes, this is all true.
SouBeachTalents
04-04-2023, 02:11 PM
You can think I'm trolling all you want. That's your right. But I'm going to clue you in on something. There are people out there that don't think like you. They like different things than you like. They also dislike things that you may like. They have different opinions than you too. Not everyone is an exact clone of you or the way you think. Yes, this is all true.
This isn't about having differences of opinion, it's you arguing both sides of the argument. You claim people hate Trump so much they personally want to murder him, then you can't believe that people would vote against him when he's running for president. Do you not see the contradiction of these two arguments?
Patrick Chewing
04-04-2023, 02:25 PM
This isn't about having differences of opinion, it's you arguing both sides of the argument. You claim people hate Trump so much they personally want to murder him, then you can't believe that people would vote against him when he's running for president. Do you not see the contradiction of these two arguments?
There is no contradiction. I didn't like Obama or Hillary. I didn't like other Republicans that ran against Trump. I never wanted them dead. There are people that don't want Trump as President, so they voted for Biden. There are also people that want Trump dead. Both are factual statements.
Off the Court
04-04-2023, 03:03 PM
There is no contradiction. I didn't like Obama or Hillary. I didn't like other Republicans that ran against Trump. I never wanted them dead. There are people that don't want Trump as President, so they voted for Biden. There are also people that want Trump dead. Both are factual statements.
The contradiction is spending years talking about TDS, woke media this and that, the world is out to get Trump and then when everyone votes Biden you pretend to be awestruck.
And being the most voted for President in history doesn't really mean s@#t when almost every new president is the most voted for in history.
Patrick Chewing
04-04-2023, 03:32 PM
The contradiction is spending years talking about TDS, woke media this and that, the world is out to get Trump and then when everyone votes Biden you pretend to be awestruck.
And being the most voted for President in history doesn't really mean s@#t when almost every new president is the most voted for in history.
That's not even the question I was asking in the OP. I'm simply asking how does it make any sense to vote for a President who has not improved the state of the nation over someone like Trump? Which then begs the serious question, what is it about Trump that triggers Liberals such as yourself so much? You can vote for an 80 year old career politician, but the moment Trump is elected, we have to crucify him at the alter because he beat an establishment candidate, and he made fun of us on Twitter. Is that the justification?
bladefd
04-04-2023, 03:44 PM
That's not even the question I was asking in the OP. I'm simply asking how does it make any sense to vote for a President who has not improved the state of the nation over someone like Trump? Which then begs the serious question, what is it about Trump that triggers Liberals such as yourself so much? You can vote for an 80 year old career politician, but the moment Trump is elected, we have to crucify him at the alter because he beat an establishment candidate, and he made fun of us on Twitter. Is that the justification?
What did Trump improve? It wasn't just liberals that voted out Lil Donny, but independents too in big numbers. Trump brings out people in droves because he is an incompetent dummy who likes to bring out the worst in people to the point that they show up in droves to vote against him
Patrick Chewing
04-04-2023, 03:51 PM
What did Trump improve? It wasn't just liberals that voted out Lil Donny, but independents too in big numbers. Trump brings out people in droves because he is an incompetent dummy who likes to bring out the worst in people to the point that they show up in droves to vote against him
As I stated earlier, the economy was fantastic under him, there were no world wars, there were peace deals, etc.
The question you should be asking yourself is, what did Trump do to warrant all this hate? That's what you should be asking yourself.
I mean, I know what the answer is, but unless you can prove me wrong, the answer has always been that he disrupted the status quo, called out those in power, mocked them on social media, and threatened their power. Because of this, Donald Trump became the most prosecuted man on planet Earth.
You can't just keep saying, well the people voted him out because he was a bad guy. A bad guy? What made him bad? How was the country worse under Trump? How was it worse than how it's been under Biden??
kabar
04-04-2023, 04:30 PM
That's not even the question I was asking in the OP. I'm simply asking how does it make any sense to vote for a President who has not improved the state of the nation over someone like Trump? Which then begs the serious question, what is it about Trump that triggers Liberals such as yourself so much? You can vote for an 80 year old career politician, but the moment Trump is elected, we have to crucify him at the alter because he beat an establishment candidate, and he made fun of us on Twitter. Is that the justification?
Arguably, the state of the nation and high inflation is due to Trump's actions. Supply route interruption, lockdowns, subsidies to big oil, and stimulus checks all happened under the Trump administration. It could be argued his actions put us in the state we are today, while the oil industry profited under subsides during COVID drawdowns and keeping high prices during the Russian conflict. That's what Republicans do, use our tax money to support their donors and then turn a blind eye to big oil fleecing regular people while screaming "BIDEN BAD, LOOK INFLATION"
Lakers Legend#32
04-04-2023, 05:58 PM
Trump improved our lives because Poopsie said so.
I guess we all owe Trump a big round of applause for ignoring Covid which killed half a million Americans.
oldtimer28
04-04-2023, 06:19 PM
Then how come his numbers are currently in the tank? How come he has approval ratings as low as 36% during his Presidency? Can anyone explain why he suddenly went from the most popular President with the highest number of votes, to being one of the lowest-rated Presidents almost overnight? How is that possible?
Great question.
Another good question is how can any sane person let alone 36% approval ratings support the lunacy of a demented man in his 70s with a drugged criminal low life son, possible incest and misconduct and complete failure in office...
SouBeachTalents
04-04-2023, 06:23 PM
Great question.
Another good question is how can any sane person let alone 36% approval ratings support the lunacy of a demented man in his 70s with a drugged criminal low life son, possible incest and misconduct and complete failure in office...
The guy was just indicted on 34 felony counts today, give him a break.
Jasper
04-04-2023, 07:08 PM
Then how come his numbers are currently in the tank? How come he has approval ratings as low as 36% during his Presidency? Can anyone explain why he suddenly went from the most popular President with the highest number of votes, to being one of the lowest-rated Presidents almost overnight? How is that possible?
deflection thread.
Here's one for you poopsie :
Remember when Clinton shot a load on a blue dress and the whole USA convicted him of a terrible crime to his wife.
Fast forward ... it wasn't an aid to the whitehouse .. trump does his dirty work in the dirty porn industry.
Mega's cheer him , but not Clinton.
what a fvck'n joke.
Jasper
04-04-2023, 07:12 PM
As I stated earlier, the economy was fantastic under him, there were no world wars, there were peace deals, etc.
The question you should be asking yourself is, what did Trump do to warrant all this hate? That's what you should be asking yourself.
I mean, I know what the answer is, but unless you can prove me wrong, the answer has always been that he disrupted the status quo, called out those in power, mocked them on social media, and threatened their power. Because of this, Donald Trump became the most prosecuted man on planet Earth.
You can't just keep saying, well the people voted him out because he was a bad guy. A bad guy? What made him bad? How was the country worse under Trump? How was it worse than how it's been under Biden??
when I started reading this I all most fell out of my chair laughing so hard.
Poopsie either your a comic or your an idiot.
Trump in his tenor had a pandemic that closed over half the business, people were draining the shelves , and you say he had the best economy as a president ???? LMFAO
his economy was second worst to the depression
Jasper
04-04-2023, 07:14 PM
In other news : Trump wanted to get out of Nato.
Today : Finland and Sweden has shored up the Russia (trump-poopsie commi) boarder
Patrick Chewing
04-04-2023, 08:03 PM
Jasper, I'm sorry if you're in denial. We were better off financially under Trump as opposed to how we are right now under Trump. You can fall out of chair laughing all you want and break a hip because you're 90 years old, but the truth is the truth.
Jasper
04-04-2023, 11:16 PM
Jasper, I'm sorry if you're in denial. We were better off financially under Trump as opposed to how we are right now under Trump. You can fall out of chair laughing all you want and break a hip because you're 90 years old, but the truth is the truth.
I read this three times .. poopsie losing it ???:confusedshrug:
what you doin' ?
https://i.postimg.cc/kXBDZKpL/3290-B0-DC-DBDE-4-D3-F-99-DA-8-CEA845949-A4.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
old man - past your bed time...
Chick Stern
04-05-2023, 01:07 AM
As I stated earlier, the economy was fantastic under him, there were no world wars, there were peace deals, etc.
Obama’s last three years GDP were better than Trump’s first three. That isn’t taking the sh!tshow of 2020 into consideration. FWIW, the economy was sliding prior to the pandemic.
Considering there has not been a world war since WWII, are you really hanging your hat on that?
Peace deals? Tit for tat with minor non-bordering countries who are no threat to Israel to begin with. Positive steps, but gave quite a bit in controversial concessions, primarily for a PR gain.
I read this three times .. poopsie losing it ???:confusedshrug:
what you doin' ?
https://i.postimg.cc/kXBDZKpL/3290-B0-DC-DBDE-4-D3-F-99-DA-8-CEA845949-A4.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
old man - past your bed time...
:lol
iamgine
04-05-2023, 05:53 AM
Trump is not a good president. He's a very divisive figure with abrasive personality. Not a good combination for long term success despite the satisfaction of seeing crazy leftists cry on the street.
But Biden is much worse. The Afghanistan stuff was just an all-time level blunder.
Hope we can get someone normal like Desantis. I don't mind Trump again though, at least it will be fun.
Off the Court
04-05-2023, 09:21 AM
Biden's current approval rating is 42.8%
Trump's approval at the same time was 42.2%
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
Also you keep mentioning the economy but during Trump's final year the economy completely shut down. And currently the unemployment rate is at record lows and the economy is so hot the Fed is trying to kill it to bring down inflation but they can't.
Off the Court
04-05-2023, 09:26 AM
Trump is not a good president. He's a very divisive figure with abrasive personality. Not a good combination for long term success despite the satisfaction of seeing crazy leftists cry on the street.
But Biden is much worse. The Afghanistan stuff was just an all-time level blunder.
Hope we can get someone normal like Desantis. I don't mind Trump again though, at least it will be fun.
If ending the BS war in Afghanistan is the worst thing Biden has done then I'm good with it.
iamgine
04-05-2023, 10:07 AM
If ending the BS war in Afghanistan is the worst thing Biden has done then I'm good with it.
sure
Jasper
04-05-2023, 10:25 AM
Trump is not a good president. He's a very divisive figure with abrasive personality. Not a good combination for long term success despite the satisfaction of seeing crazy leftists cry on the street.
But Biden is much worse. The Afghanistan stuff was just an all-time level blunder.
Hope we can get someone normal like Desantis. I don't mind Trump again though, at least it will be fun.
in other words you feel the government is a comedy show ... and you don't care what it costs our citizens ???
The government is supposed to govern all of the people all of the time , and protect them.
You feel Trump did that ???:confusedshrug:
iamgine
04-05-2023, 10:50 AM
in other words you feel the government is a comedy show ... and you don't care what it costs our citizens ???
The government is supposed to govern all of the people all of the time , and protect them.
You feel Trump did that ???:confusedshrug:
How did you get that from that lol
BigKobeFan
04-05-2023, 10:51 AM
If ending the BS war in Afghanistan is the worst thing Biden has done then I'm good with it.
By giving our enemies billions of weapons. Ok chief.
I guess the apple does not fall far from the tree since killary sold our uranium to russia
Patrick Chewing
04-05-2023, 10:55 AM
Obama’s last three years GDP were better than Trump’s first three. That isn’t taking the sh!tshow of 2020 into consideration. FWIW, the economy was sliding prior to the pandemic.
Considering there has not been a world war since WWII, are you really hanging your hat on that?
Peace deals? Tit for tat with minor non-bordering countries who are no threat to Israel to begin with. Positive steps, but gave quite a bit in controversial concessions, primarily for a PR gain.
So what was the reason to vote Trump out of office and vote for the disaster that is Joe Biden? What is the reason to go after Trump as much as they have done since he became President? You see what I mean? The hatred people have for him is confusing and unwarranted.
Patrick Chewing
04-05-2023, 10:57 AM
If ending the BS war in Afghanistan is the worst thing Biden has done then I'm good with it.
Imagine ending it in a different way, the way that was recommended by everyone else that would not have cost the lives of American soldiers. Imagine ending it in a way where we don't leave millions of dollars in military equipment behind so that the Taliban can use it against their own people and against Americans.
Off the Court
04-05-2023, 11:25 AM
Imagine ending it in a different way, the way that was recommended by everyone else that would not have cost the lives of American soldiers. Imagine ending it in a way where we don't leave millions of dollars in military equipment behind so that the Taliban can use it against their own people and against Americans.
Or imagine doing what Trump did and not ending it at all and costing even more American lives.
Patrick Chewing
04-05-2023, 11:30 AM
Or imagine doing what Trump did and not ending it at all and costing even more American lives.
How many American soldiers died under Trump's watch?
ZenMaster
04-05-2023, 11:36 AM
You already know the answer. He got that many votes because everyone wanted Trump out. They weren't votes for Biden, they were votes against Trump.
And the only chance Biden has of winning again is if his opponent is Trump again. We saw what happened during midterms. Half of conservatives want to move on from Trump. He's divided the GOP which equates to wins for the Dems.
There's that word again, "everyone" wanted Trump out and that's the narrative that's been set.
If the narrative was true, Biden would have won big time as tons of voters switched from Trump to Biden. But that didn't happen, instead Trump in some magic way found himself with 11 million more votes than in 2016.
Narrative and reality just doesn't add up. If anyone can explain how Trumps voters leave him because they wanted him out, but then somehow his vote total increases by a significant margin, be my guest.
Off the Court
04-05-2023, 11:46 AM
"some magic way" :oldlol:
https://cdn.statcdn.com/Statistic/1135000/1139763-blank-355.png
Will it be magical to you when the two nominees in 2024 beat their vote totals again?
Too much tin foil.
Patrick Chewing
04-05-2023, 12:32 PM
How many Americans died under Trump's watch?
How many billions did Trump send to foreign countries to help them against Russia?
Was Russia attacking a foreign nation whilst Trump was President?
All good questions for you, Max.
ZenMaster
04-05-2023, 04:59 PM
"some magic way" :oldlol:
https://cdn.statcdn.com/Statistic/1135000/1139763-blank-355.png
Will it be magical to you when the two nominees in 2024 beat their vote totals again?
Too much tin foil.
I can't tell what that graph is supposed to show, though Hillary Clinton had almost the exact same number of votes in 2016 that Obama had in 2012, literally only a difference of around 50 thousand.
But you're telling me that Trump managed to gain 11 million votes from 2016 to 2020 while "everyone" wanted him out and while losing votes from old Republicans because he was killing them with his lack of covid rules(even though you now blame him for shutting down the country).
The narrative for 2016 was that so many unexpected voters voted for Trump that they couldn't factor it in any of the polls at the time, but somehow while his base supposedly left him he managed to top that up in 2020..
It's like during the invasion of Iraq, I'm sure there was some kind of weird explanation as to why Saddam wasn't using the WMDs on the invading US army since he supposedly had them, but it lacks logic.
bladefd
04-05-2023, 06:06 PM
Trump is not a good president. He's a very divisive figure with abrasive personality. Not a good combination for long term success despite the satisfaction of seeing crazy leftists cry on the street.
But Biden is much worse. The Afghanistan stuff was just an all-time level blunder.
Hope we can get someone normal like Desantis. I don't mind Trump again though, at least it will be fun.
DeSantis would also be a mess. If his work in Florida says anything, it's that he is an accident waiting to happen in presidential seat. Massive social cuts, more tax cuts all to trump up his corporate supporters. Democrats do it too, absolutely, but Republican shills like DeSantis more so.
bladefd
04-05-2023, 06:12 PM
So what was the reason to vote Trump out of office and vote for the disaster that is Joe Biden? What is the reason to go after Trump as much as they have done since he became President? You see what I mean? The hatred people have for him is confusing and unwarranted.
Biden has been a disaster, but lets not act like Trump was this perfect president. Guy was a clown who had no business running anything.
If you break laws, involve yourself in pure corruption ("find me 11,000 votes" on a tape recording), and do business fraud, you should be punished.
bladefd
04-05-2023, 06:18 PM
There's that word again, "everyone" wanted Trump out and that's the narrative that's been set.
If the narrative was true, Biden would have won big time as tons of voters switched from Trump to Biden. But that didn't happen, instead Trump in some magic way found himself with 11 million more votes than in 2016.
Narrative and reality just doesn't add up. If anyone can explain how Trumps voters leave him because they wanted him out, but then somehow his vote total increases by a significant margin, be my guest.
Millions of independents switched to Biden. More independents voting Democrat than 2016 was the main reason Biden won.
Here's the reality that has you in shambles:
Russia couldn't break up NATO and throw America into continuous chaos that was Trump. Russia's plans failed. Ukraine invasion has failed. Live with the reality of it, Russian shill.
Off the Court
04-05-2023, 06:18 PM
I can't tell what that graph is supposed to show, though Hillary Clinton had almost the exact same number of votes in 2016 that Obama had in 2012, literally only a difference of around 50 thousand.
But you're telling me that Trump managed to gain 11 million votes from 2016 to 2020 while "everyone" wanted him out and while losing votes from old Republicans because he was killing them with his lack of covid rules(even though you now blame him for shutting down the country).
The narrative for 2016 was that so many unexpected voters voted for Trump that they couldn't factor it in any of the polls at the time, but somehow while his base supposedly left him he managed to top that up in 2020..
It's like during the invasion of Iraq, I'm sure there was some kind of weird explanation as to why Saddam wasn't using the WMDs on the invading US army since he supposedly had them, but it lacks logic.
Obviously not literally "everyone". The majority wanted Trump out. The point of my post was that Biden voters were more persuaded by Trump being gone than they were enthusiasm for Biden. This should be easy to accept from the crowd that won't shut up about TDS.
More overall voters but the percentages shifted toward Biden.
You can't look at totals, you have to look at percentages.
Trump got x% of the senior vote in 2016 but only z% in 2020.
Off the Court
04-05-2023, 06:22 PM
Its not hard to imagine the same thing could happen to Biden in 2024.
Maybe he gets 84m votes but still loses to DeSantis because there is a much larger voting population.
Much more young people turning voter age than there are old people dying.
ZenMaster
04-05-2023, 07:45 PM
Obviously not literally "everyone". The majority wanted Trump out. The point of my post was that Biden voters were more persuaded by Trump being gone than they were enthusiasm for Biden. This should be easy to accept from the crowd that won't shut up about TDS.
More overall voters but the percentages shifted toward Biden.
You can't look at totals, you have to look at percentages.
Trump got x% of the senior vote in 2016 but only z% in 2020.
More overall voters, but why were Trump getting so many of them when he was so unpopular?
Trump lost the national popular vote by nearly 3 million in 2016, but never attempted to expand his support beyond his hard-core base. Instead he tried to find new voters—most of them non-college-educated white men—who were attracted to his divisive, often racially inflammatory style
https://time.com/5907973/donald-trump-loses-2020-election/
So Trump lost a bunch of votes from various groups that he had in 2016, but still managed to increase his vote totals by 11 million through finding even more non college educated white men than in 2016. Sounds too good to be true, the numbers are just too high, especially considering that Trump also lost a bunch of votes from the far right as they felt he was doing too much for minority groups vs his voting base.
It's likesome of those old people donating, of course they could just be extremely passionate democrats, but it's unlikely they're making these donations.
Over the last 6 years according to
@FEC
she has made 26,143 donations or 11.9 donations a day for 2,190 days straight on average. Totaling $161,541.70 in donations.
https://twitter.com/ClintonRarey/status/1643396078945853441?s=20
Patrick Chewing
04-05-2023, 08:11 PM
Biden has been a disaster, but lets not act like Trump was this perfect president. Guy was a clown who had no business running anything.
If you break laws, involve yourself in pure corruption ("find me 11,000 votes" on a tape recording), and do business fraud, you should be punished.
That's not even the point I'm trying to make. The point is, how in the hell and why in the hell did people vote Trump out in the first place considering how awful Biden has been? And I refuse to accept anyone telling me that hindsight is 20/20 or that they didn't see this coming. Trump, while you may not like his character, was way more stable economically and globally than Biden has been.
Patrick Chewing
04-05-2023, 08:13 PM
And as is usual, when Max is cornered with questions he cannot honestly answer, he pretends not to see them and just keeps posting trying to avoid having to answer them.
iamgine
04-05-2023, 11:39 PM
That's not even the point I'm trying to make. The point is, how in the hell and why in the hell did people vote Trump out in the first place considering how awful Biden has been? And I refuse to accept anyone telling me that hindsight is 20/20 or that they didn't see this coming. Trump, while you may not like his character, was way more stable economically and globally than Biden has been.
Hate is a powerful thing. I talked to many everyday people like cab/uber drivers about politics during the Trump administration. A conversation about Trump actually trigger a big emotional response in many of them. They'll be nice about it but you can plainly see that they truly despise Trump. Not the normal 'I hate Mitch Mcconnell/Nancy Pelosi that old coot' type of hate. More of a 'I hate Hitler' type of hate. He's just a very divisive figure and it's tough to unite the country long term under that condition, which is important.
Meanwhile, Biden was seen as a harmless patsy. A party puppet. Who knew he could do this much damage.
Jasper
04-05-2023, 11:50 PM
why does poopsie talk about Trump all the time.
you have some kind of ped thing going ??
Lakers Legend#32
04-06-2023, 03:50 AM
What Poopsie does not understand is that all the Trump voters know he did not make their lives better, and they don't care.
What matters to MAGA is that Trump makes the lives of the people they hate (LGBTQ, Muslims, women, people of color, liberals) worse.
Trump validates their hatred. They support Trump for how he makes them feel, certainly not for policy (of which Trump has none).
Trump validates their hatred.
That means the world to them.
That's why they will never leave him.
ILLsmak
04-06-2023, 10:13 AM
Then how come his numbers are currently in the tank? How come he has approval ratings as low as 36% during his Presidency? Can anyone explain why he suddenly went from the most popular President with the highest number of votes, to being one of the lowest-rated Presidents almost overnight? How is that possible?
the idea with troll is a paradox.
This isn't because you can say... more people = more votes. Apolitical/swayed masses that are encouraged to "get out and vote" despite people being uninformed on what they are actually voting for. Then the type of people who would answer political polls are bordering on insanity already haha. I mean, a lot of factors. It's not good science.
Nobody wanted Biden. I said this before, but I told a dude that he better enjoy Biden when he was talking about how Trump is gonna lose and this and that, and he was naming names. I told him nah you're getting Biden. Enjoy Biden, everyone!
-Smak
ILLsmak
04-06-2023, 10:18 AM
There's that word again, "everyone" wanted Trump out and that's the narrative that's been set.
If the narrative was true, Biden would have won big time as tons of voters switched from Trump to Biden. But that didn't happen, instead Trump in some magic way found himself with 11 million more votes than in 2016.
Narrative and reality just doesn't add up. If anyone can explain how Trumps voters leave him because they wanted him out, but then somehow his vote total increases by a significant margin, be my guest.
More voters came in, lost anti-Hillary voters. Trump didn't lose that much support, and some of the OMG BIDEN people came out, too. Honestly, if you wanna talk about election fraud, I'd say the whole number set is sus, Trumps numbers included, but assuming it's all real, it makes sense.
A lot of Trump voters (enough to swing an election) were mad Bernie Bros after Wikileaks imo. People say they didn't or wouldn't, but I bet they did.
-Smak
Jasper
04-06-2023, 12:54 PM
What Poopsie does not understand is that all the Trump voters know he did not make their lives better, and they don't care.
What matters to MAGA is that Trump makes the lives of the people they hate (LGBTQ, Muslims, women, people of color, liberals) worse.
Trump validates their hatred. They support Trump for how he makes them feel, certainly not for policy (of which Trump has none).
Trump validates their hatred.
That means the world to them.
That's why they will never leave him.
nailed it again.
I all most feel sorry for their lame as$ thinking.
Smak - good to see you again my friend.
BigKobeFan
04-06-2023, 01:38 PM
What Poopsie does not understand is that all the Trump voters know he did not make their lives better, and they don't care.
What matters to MAGA is that Trump makes the lives of the people they hate (LGBTQ, Muslims, women, people of color, liberals) worse.
Trump validates their hatred. They support Trump for how he makes them feel, certainly not for policy (of which Trump has none).
Trump validates their hatred.
That means the world to them.
That's why they will never leave him.
I can tell you i wasnt paying $5.50 for a gallon of gas or $7 eggs, or $15 bucks for a hamburger
If that doesnt say my life was better under trump i dont think you have a brain
Jasper
04-06-2023, 03:05 PM
I can tell you i wasnt paying $5.50 for a gallon of gas or $7 eggs, or $15 bucks for a hamburger
If that doesnt say my life was better under trump i dont think you have a brain
another one concerned about his gas tank , but not his great grand children playing in a desert:roll::roll::roll:
BigKobeFan
04-06-2023, 03:39 PM
another one concerned about his gas tank , but not his great grand children playing in a desert:roll::roll::roll:
What desert?
Patrick Chewing
04-06-2023, 04:12 PM
another one concerned about his gas tank , but not his great grand children playing in a desert:roll::roll::roll:
What the hell are you talking about old man?? The entire country is worried about the price of gas. In case you didn't know, and you probably don't cause you live that redneck lifestyle on a farm, mostly all Americans commute on a daily basis to work, school, etc.
Doofus.
Off the Court
04-06-2023, 04:47 PM
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/mapped-worlds-highest-inflation-rates.jpeg
Biden handled the Trump stimulus inflation better than most.
BigKobeFan
04-06-2023, 05:26 PM
What the hell are you talking about old man?? The entire country is worried about the price of gas. In case you didn't know, and you probably don't cause you live that redneck lifestyle on a farm, mostly all Americans commute on a daily basis to work, school, etc.
Doofus.
Remember this idiot was the only guy on this forum that said gas prices went down 2 weeks after biden took office when everyone else said gas went up 2 bucks.
Lakers Legend#32
04-06-2023, 05:38 PM
nailed it again.
I all most feel sorry for their lame as$ thinking.
Smak - good to see you again my friend.
But the MAGAS cannot even be honest with themselves and admit it.
coin24
04-06-2023, 06:22 PM
another one concerned about his gas tank , but not his great grand children playing in a desert:roll::roll::roll:
There is thousands of years worth of oil. You’re being played and too stupid to wake up..
Guessing you’re one of those dumb cu*nts that believe all the carbon nonsense. What % of our atmosphere is carbon and what % do humans account for? Bet you don’t know.
bladefd
04-06-2023, 07:29 PM
What the hell are you talking about old man?? The entire country is worried about the price of gas. In case you didn't know, and you probably don't cause you live that redneck lifestyle on a farm, mostly all Americans commute on a daily basis to work, school, etc.
Doofus.
Gas prices are not relevant who the president is. Oil companies are private and have been profiting historic profits. Are we supposed to overlook that or the fact that OPEC+ controls global prices?
Gas price has been coming down for past year and half as inflation comes down. It is currently down to $3.20/gallon near me.
Lakers Legend#32
04-07-2023, 03:14 AM
Gas prices are not relevant who the president is. Oil companies are private and have been profiting historic profits. Are we supposed to overlook that or the fact that OPEC+ controls global prices?
Gas price has been coming down for past year and half as inflation comes down. It is currently down to $3.20/gallon near me.
It's all true but the MAGAS can't let go of a talking point even if it did not result in a Red Wave in '22 when they first broke it out.
Patrick Chewing
04-07-2023, 11:21 AM
Gas prices are not relevant who the president is. Oil companies are private and have been profiting historic profits. Are we supposed to overlook that or the fact that OPEC+ controls global prices?
Gas price has been coming down for past year and half as inflation comes down. It is currently down to $3.20/gallon near me.
It just went up 20 cents where I live. And imagine trying to put a positive spin on $3.20 for a gallon of gas. :oldlol:
There is plenty a President can do to alleviate the cost of oil. The government owns an overwhelming majority of land across the United States. Under that land is oil. Oil and gas could be free to all Americans if these Climate Nazis weren't involved in all facets of American government.
bladefd
04-07-2023, 01:46 PM
It just went up 20 cents where I live. And imagine trying to put a positive spin on $3.20 for a gallon of gas. :oldlol:
There is plenty a President can do to alleviate the cost of oil. The government owns an overwhelming majority of land across the United States. Under that land is oil. Oil and gas could be free to all Americans if these Climate Nazis weren't involved in all facets of American government.
Do you know who would profit from freeing up land? Private oil companies. They would profit more money. They are certainly not lowering oil prices below what OPEC has set the global oil market to as a favor to being American company lol.
The president could possibly take over the oil companies or force them to price at a specific cost, but Republicans would cry socialism.
Lakers Legend#32
04-07-2023, 04:27 PM
If the Republicans were really concerned about gas prices (instead of just using it as a political football), they would be advocating for the nationalization of the oil industry.
bladefd
04-07-2023, 07:44 PM
If the Republicans were really concerned about gas prices (instead of just using it as a political football), they would be advocating for the nationalization of the oil industry.
A lot of Republicans get money from oil companies and have oil investments. They would cry bloody mary if nationalization of oil companies was even attempted. They are just b!tching and crying right now about oil prices because they want something to moan about at the president, who is from the opposing party. Best to ignore it and let them keep crying.
Lakers Legend#32
04-08-2023, 04:17 PM
Gas prices go up and they come down. Still rising gas prices is a survivable event.
Losing our democracy under Trump and the MAGA fascists is not.
Patrick Chewing
04-08-2023, 04:43 PM
Gas prices go up and they come down. Still rising gas prices is a survivable event.
Losing our democracy under Trump and the MAGA fascists is not.
How do we lose our democracy under Trump? Explain.
Or is this another fake crisis created by psychotic betasexual Libs such as yourself?
Lakers Legend#32
04-08-2023, 05:43 PM
How do we lose our democracy under Trump? Explain.
Or is this another fake crisis created by psychotic betasexual Libs such as yourself?
He did try to overturn and election and sent his terrorists to the capital to keep him
in power after he lost.
You know, like every proud defender of democracy does.
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