The West Right Now Is the Weakest Conference We've Seen In Decades

[Full Court]

It's astounding really. A conference full of underachievers, and weak teams with inflated records.

You have the top seed with a team that virtually nobody thinks is going to win the championship. Now that in and of itself doesn't say much - it could be a strong East. However, they're not even the favorites to win their own conference. A terrible defensive team with no depth. And they're top seed.

Then you have teams that were in the lottery a couple weeks ago who are fighting for sixth seed.

You have the Lakers, the most stacked team in the conference....and right now they're in the play-in bracket.

The Suns are the favorites to win the West as far as betting odds go, and they're not even a 50-win team.

The Mavs were considered to be a contender at the start of the season, and they're in the lottery.

The Warriors were also expected to be a contender, and they're fighting to stay out of the play-in bracket.

The only good team in the West that actually has a decent record is the Grizzlies. And very few people expect them to win the championship either.

Weakest conference in a long, long, long time.

[SouBeachTalents]

Early candidate for dumbest thread of the year.

[ArbitraryWater]

Probably one of the strongest years.

Never been so deep for sure.

[1987_Lakers]

Weird thread. Op comes off as a 15 year old trying to write a college essay and failing miserably

You are saying some obvious things most of us already knew

[Full Court]

Weird thread. Op comes off as a 15 year old trying to write a college essay and failing miserably

You are saying some obvious things most of us already knew

It makes for a discussion. You say it's obvious, but the poster right above you disagrees with it.

If you think this is like a college essay, then that tells me all I need to know about what kind of college you went to. :lol How's that online diploma working out for ya?

[RRR3]

Durrrrrr me smart hhehehehehehe durrrrrrrrrr hurrrrrr gyuk ga DURRRR!
:yaohappy:

[Full Court]

:yaohappy:

RRR3tard still fuming since I proved he doesn't know how to do basic math. :roll:



And here's the proof: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?510965-%93I-don%92t-know-how-you-deny-him-as-the-greatest-ever%94-Rick-Fox-on-LeBron&p=14753123#post14753123

[ShawkFactory]

You can thank load management and injuries for that.

[Manny98]

All the real contenders are out East tbh

[ImKobe]

Post-ASB I feel like the WC overall is better than the East with KD moving to the Suns and with the Lakers re-tooling as well, pre-KD trade I felt like it was pretty balanced if both sides had similar injury luck but it's just been a bad year with injuries to big names mostly on the WC side.

[SouBeachTalents]

Post-ASB I feel like the WC overall is better than the East with KD moving to the Suns and with the Lakers re-tooling as well, pre-KD trade I felt like it was pretty balanced if both sides had similar injury luck but it's just been a bad year with injuries to big names mostly on the WC side.
The East has 3 legit teams, everyone else is honestly a nonfactor, and I bet most people would probably consider Philly to be pretenders based on their stars/coaches playoff history. Meanwhile, the West has as much depth for a conference as I've seen. In addition to the Nuggets finally being healthy for a playoff run, the most talented team in the conference, and arguably the league, is going to be the 4th seed, while the Clippers/Warriors/Lakers will (likely) not even have homecourt for any series. That's not even mentioning the Luka/Kyrie Mavs might not even make the play-in :lol

So trying to claim this conference is worse than like the '02 East is fcking retarded.

[Overdrive]

So weaker than the Lebron east you keep crying about all the time?

[ImKobe]

The East has 3 legit teams, everyone else is honestly a nonfactor, and I bet most people would probably consider Philly to be pretenders based on their stars/coaches playoff history. Meanwhile, the West has as much depth for a conference as I've seen. In addition to the Nuggets finally being healthy for a playoff run, the most talented team in the conference, and arguably the league, is going to be the 4th seed, while the Clippers/Warriors/Lakers will (likely) not even have homecourt for any series. That's not even mentioning the Luka/Kyrie Mavs might not even make the play-in :lol

So trying to claim this conference is worse than like the '02 East is fcking retarded.

Yeah the Sixers are tied for the 3rd best record in the league but I wouldn't take them over the Clippers or Warriors or Lakers in a series and those teams are fighting to stay out of the Play-In. Cavs & Heat do have some upset potential but the EC is almost certainly going to be won by Milwaukee or Boston, barring injuries.

West has always had the edge on the top-end talent in the modern era and it seems like it's going to remain that way for a while. Right now you could make a case that 7 of the top 10 players in the league play out West and you usually need one of those to really contend for a championship.

[Full Court]

So weaker than the Lebron east you keep crying about all the time?

Yep, even weaker than that.

No excuses, homie.

[Nb1]

I don't know how anyone can say the Lakers are the most stacked team in the West? Half of the team hasn't even played 1 playoff game in their entire careers and the other half other than Bron has a losing playoff record and most are like 1-3 with almost no minutes in their whole careers. Davis without Bron was 5-9 in the playoffs. Pick any team in the West and they all have guys with much more experience and wins. The Warriors have like 4 guys with 100 playoff wins. The players on the Lakers team other than Bron/Davis have less playoff experience than even the Rockets players lol.

[ImKobe]

I don't know how anyone can say the Lakers are the most stacked team in the West? Half of the team hasn't even played 1 playoff game in their careers and the other half other than Bron has a losing playoff record and most are like 1-3 in their whole playoff careers. Davis without Bron was 5-9 in the playoffs. The players on the team other than Bron have less playoff experience than even the Rockets players lol

You could argue that their starting 5 is the best in the West (their 5 when healthy has a +27 Net Rating with D'lo & Reaves in the back court, or +24 with Beasley in place of Reaves) and they have better depth than most teams. They have the #1 defense since making the Russ trade. They've won 14 of their last 21 and that's with Bran out for 12 of those games.

[ShawkFactory]

So weaker than the Lebron east you keep crying about all the time?

No. This is obviously a damage control attempt. If the Lakers make it through it’s “Who cares, weakest conference ever!”. If they lose it’s “OMG Lebron couldn’t make it through the weakest conference ever!”.

Win/win for him.

[bison]

The amount of parity in the west suggests its actually a bloodbath. OP isn't very smart.

[Overdrive]

No. This is obviously a damage control attempt. If the Lakers make it through it’s “Who cares, weakest conference ever!”. If they lose it’s “OMG Lebron couldn’t make it through the weakest conference ever!”.

Win/win for him.

I know. We all know what this guy is all about.


Yep, even weaker than that.

No excuses, homie.

No excuses for what?

[Full Court]

No. This is obviously a damage control attempt. If the Lakers make it through it’s “Who cares, weakest conference ever!”. If they lose it’s “OMG Lebron couldn’t make it through the weakest conference ever!”.

Win/win for him.

Spot on. :applause:

It is indeed a win/win. Not damage control though, because it's actually true.

[RRR3]

I think everyone should just stop responding to Dull Court. It’s tempting to roast him because he’s astoundingly dumb but he never learns and it’s just the same stuff. I’ve been very guilty of encouraging him (even in this thread) but I’m gonna stop and hopefully he can just babble to himself and his buddy axe.

[ShawkFactory]

Spot on. :applause:

It is indeed a win/win. Not damage control though, because it's actually true.

:roll:

Carry on.

[bison]

I think everyone should just stop responding to Dull Court. It’s tempting to roast him because he’s astoundingly dumb but he never learns and it’s just the same stuff. I’ve been very guilty of encouraging him (even in this thread) but I’m gonna stop and hopefully he can just babble to himself and his buddy axe.

Is there a way we can create a new subforum and restrict Axe and Full Court's posting to it? i'm sure this can be done. a sort of ISH dungeon if you will. maybe call it "The jizzrag and merman show"

[Xiao Yao You]

I think everyone should just stop responding to Dull Court.

couldn't quit me and he thinks he can quit Full Court? :roll:

[MrFonzworth]

couldn't quit me and he thinks he can quit Full Court? :roll:

:lol

[bison]

couldn't quit me and he thinks he can quit Full Court? :roll:

:lol

[┌∩┐(﹒︠益﹒︡)┌∩┐]

couldn't quit me and he thinks he can quit Full Court? :roll:

:lol

[SouBeachTalents]

couldn't quit me and he thinks he can quit Full Court? :roll:
:lol

[RRR3]

:lol
What's ironic is he claimed he put me on ignore and is still apparently reading my posts. He also frequently says "can't quit me" following posts in which I am not even talking to him, which is quite deranged.

[Xiao Yao You]

can't quit me!:facepalm

good luck with Full Court!

[NBAGOAT]

load management and more injuries makes win totals not as relevant as they used to be. Yea a lot of teams underachieved this year too but injuries were a part of that

[hold this L]

No. This is obviously a damage control attempt. If the Lakers make it through it’s “Who cares, weakest conference ever!”. If they lose it’s “OMG Lebron couldn’t make it through the weakest conference ever!”.

Win/win for him.

That is incredibly pathetic if true.

[Nb1]

You could argue that their starting 5 is the best in the West (their 5 when healthy has a +27 Net Rating with D'lo & Reaves in the back court, or +24 with Beasley in place of Reaves) and they have better depth than most teams. They have the #1 defense since making the Russ trade. They've won 14 of their last 21 and that's with Bran out for 12 of those games.

I really like how D'Lo and Reeves are playing, great addition for D'Lo, but he has a playoff record of 3-8 and Reeves has never even seen the playoffs. How can you say their starting 5 (when healthy) are the best when 3 out of 2 staters have barely even seen the playoffs and haven't won anything, same for the rest of the roster? Look at the Warriors, they have like 10 guys with rings and many with over 100 playoff games with many wins and accomplishments.

You can't say the Lakers have the best starting 5 (or team) in the West when you have a team like the Warriors where 1 player has done more than the whole Lakers cast combined (other than Bron ofc) and they have like 5 of them and other 5 who were there already with them helping them winning the ring.

[Manny98]

couldn't quit me and he thinks he can quit Full Court? :roll:

:roll:

[ShawkFactory]

That is incredibly pathetic if true.

Of course it’s true. It’s the same as calling the Lakers the most stacked team in the league. If they win it’s because they’re supposed to, if they don’t it’s because of Lebron.

[Full Court]

couldn't quit me and he thinks he can quit Full Court? :roll:

:roll:

[Full Court]

Of course it’s true. It’s the same as calling the Lakers the most stacked team in the league. If they win it’s because they’re supposed to, if they don’t it’s because of Lebron.

Yes, they should be winning the West. They ARE supposed to. Now if they don't, I'll save my analysis for after it happens, but the most probable reasons for them not winning would be AD getting injured or LeNetNegative dragging them down.

[ShawkFactory]

Yes, they should be winning the West. They ARE supposed to. Now if they don't, I'll save my analysis for after it happens, but the most probable reasons for them not winning would be AD getting injured or LeNetNegative dragging them down.

So if Lebron went down right now you’d still think the Lakers should win the West, right?

[Full Court]

So if Lebron went down right now you’d still think the Lakers should win the West, right?

Absolutely. I'd give them a better chance of it. You've seen the Lakers play without him, right? And have you not seen that they actually play a lot better?

[ShawkFactory]

Absolutely. I'd give them a better chance of it. You've seen the Lakers play without him, right? And have you not seen that they actually play a lot better?

:lol

You lie.

[Full Court]

:lol

You lie.

You should go back and look at my analyses. I've gotten a few predictions wrong, but most of the time I'm spot on.

Case in point: During the preseason I was saying the Lakers were a stacked team while everyone else was saying it a team full of scrubs.

Now fast forward to the end of the regular season, the Lakers have the 4th best betting odds in the West to win the finals - tied with Memphis. "Scrubs"....:roll:

[SouBeachTalents]

You should go back and look at my analyses. I've gotten a few predictions wrong, but most of the time I'm spot on.

Case in point: During the preseason I was saying the Lakers were a stacked team while everyone else was saying it a team full of scrubs.

Now fast forward to the end of the regular season, the Lakers have the 4th best betting odds in the West to win the finals - tied with Memphis. "Scrubs"....:roll:
The Lakers were a completely different team in the preseason, and considering they struggled all year until the trade deadline, your analysis was actually dogshit :lol

[ShawkFactory]

You should go back and look at my analyses. I've gotten a few predictions wrong, but most of the time I'm spot on.

Case in point: During the preseason I was saying the Lakers were a stacked team while everyone else was saying it a team full of scrubs.

Now fast forward to the end of the regular season, the Lakers have the 4th best betting odds in the West to win the finals - tied with Memphis. "Scrubs"....:roll:

Well that’s certainly a generous term :lol

[bison]

Well that’s certainly a generous term :lol

:lol

[Full Court]

The Lakers were a completely different team in the preseason, and considering they struggled all year until the trade deadline, your analysis was actually dogshit :lol

You mean they struggled all year until Bronie decided to sit out for 6 weeks. Then they started flourishing.

[SouBeachTalents]

You mean they struggled all year until Bronie decided to sit out for 6 weeks. Then they started flourishing.
No, I mean they struggled until they overhauled their roster. Since then they're 8-2 with LeBron, 8-5 without, with 6 of those 8 wins coming by double digits. So looks they're a lot better with him.

[kawhileonard2]

Probably one of the strongest years.

Never been so deep for sure.

Huh???

[warriorfan]

couldn't quit me and he thinks he can quit Full Court? :roll:


can't quit me!:facepalm

good luck with Full Court!

:lol :roll:

[Full Court]

Probably one of the strongest years.

Never been so deep for sure.

If there ever was a fitting place for this emoji, it's here:

:biggums:

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[Full Court]

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Man, your boy was out there throwing hands.

[kawhileonard2]

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This

[Johnny32]

let's test this lil theory.

if lebron leads lal to the finals this season his potential opponents could be...ja morant in rd 1, steph curry in rd 2, and kd in rd 3.

vs

mj's eastern conference competition in 98. ...sherman douglas in rd 1, glen rice in rd 2, reggie miller in rd 3.

[Full Court]

let's test this lil theory.

if lebron leads lal to the finals this season his potential opponents could be...ja morant in rd 1, steph curry in rd 2, and kd in rd 3.

vs

mj's eastern conference competition in 98. ...sherman douglas in rd 1, glen rice in rd 2, reggie miller in rd 3.

Your little theory is dumb.

Bulls were top seed in '98, playing the worst playoff team in the division in the first round.

LeShrivel couldn't get his super team past the play-in, so the Lakers get one of the top two teams in the division first round.

You weren't able to figure that out on your own, were you?

[Johnny32]

Your little theory is dumb.

Bulls were top seed in '98, playing the worst playoff team in the division in the first round.

LeShrivel couldn't get his super team past the play-in, so the Lakers get one of the top two teams in the division first round.

You weren't able to figure that out on your own, were you?

let's test this lil theory.

if jokic leads den to the finals this season his potential opponents could be...lebron and ad in rd 1, kd and booker in rd 2, and curry and klay in rd 3.

vs

mj's eastern conference competition in 98. ...sherman douglas in rd 1, glen rice in rd 2, reggie miller in rd 3.

your topic is trash, fatboy.

[kawhileonard2]

let's test this lil theory.

if lebron leads lal to the finals this season his potential opponents could be...ja morant in rd 1, steph curry in rd 2, and kd in rd 3.

vs

mj's eastern conference competition in 98. ...sherman douglas in rd 1, glen rice in rd 2, reggie miller in rd 3.

Anthony Davis leads team in PER, WS, WS/PER 48 minutes, Box Plus Minus, VORP. In what way is Lebron leading them again?

[Full Court]

Anthony Davis leads team in PER, WS, WS/PER 48 minutes, Box Plus Minus, VORP. In what way is Lebron leading them again?

He led them to the lottery last year and to the play-in this year. :lol

[Hey Yo]

He led them to the lottery last year and to the play-in this year. :lol

Yes, your boy AD did. You said it was his team numerous of times.