Where would you rank Rudy Gobert if his team upset the Denver Nuggets??

[Lebron23]

I like the Wolves chances against the Nuggets in the playoffs.

[warriorfan]

a little over 2 feet higher than op

[Meticode]

Rank him? I wasn't even aware he was rankable to begin with?

[Spurs m8]

It wouldn't be him that's get them over the line, you bald cvnt

Fvck I hate NBA fans...dumbest cvnts in sport

[Overdrive]

How many championships do the Utah Jazz did wins with him instead of Hornacek?

[MrFonzworth]

He would knock Hakeem out of the top 10

[Kblaze8855]

Players like Rudy don’t really get all time rankings to begin with.

The nuggets aren’t that talented. They won 53 games. They won 54 years ago when they barely squeaked by the Aldridge Spurs. Minnesota was supposed to be about that good this year.

Jokic is the best player in the series but the next 6 guys are a jumble and 4 of that jumble are Twolves.

They’re KAT playing like he’s supposed to from probably being the better team.

[Lebron23]

a little over 2 feet higher than op

You are 4 feet tall because you smoked some cracked since you were 12 years old dip$hit.

[Lebron23]

Players like Rudy don’t really get all time rankings to begin with.

The nuggets aren’t that talented. They won 53 games. They won 54 years ago when they barely squeaked by the Aldridge Spurs. Minnesota was supposed to be about that good this year.

Jokic is the best player in the series but the next 6 guys are a jumble and 4 of that jumble are Twolves.

They’re KAT playing like he’s supposed to from probably being the better team.

Nuggets might be the weakest first seed of all time after the Wolves demolished the OKC Thunder. I like the Wolves chances against the Nuggets.

[ImKobe]

You like the Wolves chances after watching them in these last 2 games and with McDaniels out? It would be a historic choke by Denver.

[Manny98]

I can bet my account that won't happen, but in a imaginary world where somehow Minnesota win it would hurt Jokic more than it would boost Rudy

[Kblaze8855]

You like the Wolves chances after watching them in these last 2 games and with McDaniels out? It would be a historic choke by Denver.


Im not sure a 53 win team is even capable of a historic choke anymore. Too many much better teams have lost early And till many low 50s teams have proven to be really similar to lesser teams. Minnesota is like 3 games from being a home court playoff team with KAT having missed over 50 games.

The Nuggets play better together but are simply not the more talented team. Nothing that could happen would feel historic. Be one of those 8-1 “upsets” you never hear about again because the teams weren’t actually that different like when the Knicks beat the first seed Heat they weren’t reeeeeally much worse than.

No “We believe” Warriors vs Mavs situation here where it’s a dominant team with a great record and finals experience vs some upstarts.

Minnesota winning would be as small a story as possible for such a thing. It would be an “upset” but nothing historic to be talked about for years.


I just feel like teams along the lines of the Nuggets lose often enough that we probably can’t keep calling it historic. They aren’t even one of the better 53-ish wins teams we have seen.

[Xiao Yao You]

I can bet my account that won't happen, but in a imaginary world where somehow Minnesota win it would hurt Jokic more than it would boost Rudy

the trolls will be the ones hurting

[Xiao Yao You]

Im not sure a 53 win team is even capable of a historic choke. Too many much better teams have lost early. Minnesota is like 3 games from being a home court playoff team with KAT having missed over 50 games.

The Nuggets play better together but are simply not the more talented team. Nothing that could happen would feel historic. Be one of those 8-1 “upsets” you never hear about again because the teams weren’t actually that different like when the Knicks beat the first seed Heat they weren’t reeeeeally much worse than.

No “We believe” Warriors vs Mavs situation here where it’s a dominant team with a great record and finals experience vs some upstarts.

Minnesota winning would be as small a story as possible for such a thing. It would be an “upset” but nothing historic to be talked about for years.

No legend of Boozer without the Warriors upset over Dallas

[ImKobe]

Im not sure a 53 win team is even capable of a historic choke anymore. Too many much better teams have lost early And till many low 50s teams have proven to be really similar to lesser teams. Minnesota is like 3 games from being a home court playoff team with KAT having missed over 50 games.

The Nuggets play better together but are simply not the more talented team. Nothing that could happen would feel historic. Be one of those 8-1 “upsets” you never hear about again because the teams weren’t actually that different like when the Knicks beat the first seed Heat they weren’t reeeeeally much worse than.

No “We believe” Warriors vs Mavs situation here where it’s a dominant team with a great record and finals experience vs some upstarts.

Minnesota winning would be as small a story as possible for such a thing. It would be an “upset” but nothing historic to be talked about for years.


I just feel like teams along the lines of the Nuggets lose often enough that we probably can’t keep calling it historic. They aren’t even one of the better 53-ish wins teams we have seen.

I mean sure the win total doesn't look great, but the Wolves are also only a 42-win team and can't help but beat themselves in close games (look at their series vs. Memphis last year, they choked like 3 or 4 games). Jokic might win his 3rd MVP in a row and if it came with him losing in the 1st round, it would be viewed just as badly or even worse than Dirk's 2007 first round loss. I wouldn't be too locked in on that 53 win total because they were coasting in a lot of these games post-ASB and resting Jokic the last 2-3 weeks going into the POs where they dropped a bunch of games without him as they had the #1 seed pretty much locked up.

Actually, I should have just made the argument purely about Jokic and his legacy, but you get the point. Him winning B2B MVPs and being in a discussion for a 3rd in a row would be looked back on as a low point in MVP voting history if he were to get bounced in the 1st round on a healthy team as a #1 seed. It would be terrible look.

[Kblaze8855]

Sure the Wolves are a 42 win team…but a 42 win team with a co franchise player who missed 50 games. If they only win 3-4 more of the 50(which isn’t unreasonable) they’re the 4 seed. It’s kinda like LA. 7 seed but…Lebron and AD missed 60 games. They’re probably more of a 2-3 in terms of how they can be expected to perform.

Its still an upset technically if La beats Memphis but…you know?

Talking Jokic in particular yea it would be a bad look…but the mvp losing is always a bad look. Always a “This is your king?!?!?” situation. Maybe it’s extra since he’d have 3 but the basketball side wouldn’t be shocking.

Denver could make a finals run or lose in 7 in the first round and not be like….shocking. The west is too bundled up. How often is the top seed decidedly not top 3 in talent? Them winning would have Walton on the Blazers vibes.

Not impossible but definitely something to praise a little extra. Serious case of chemistry over firepower.

It happens now and then. Jokic is a monster. It would just be…pretty special…right?

That isn’t the kinda team one should expect to be dominant in the playoffs. We all agree on that right?

[coin24]

Honestly wouldn’t even be surprised if the wolves make it an interesting series or won. The nuggets are a second round at best type team. Outside of joker they’re really unreliable..

After all the injuries and trades etc, feels a bit more like a 4v5 or 3v6 matchup..

[SouBeachTalents]

Since we’re on the subject, I feel like the time the Spurs lost to an 8 seed is literally never talked about. Even in this thread, I haven’t seen it mentioned even once :lol

[Kblaze8855]

Since we’re on the subject, I feel like the time the Spurs lost to an 8 seed is literally never talked about. Even in this thread, I haven’t seen it mentioned even once :lol


It was going to be one of my “Nobody even remembers these things.” examples but I didn’t think I’d need another. And they actually had a really different record too.

The 53 win nuggets lose we may well never hear about it again. It definitely won’t be historically significant outside the Jokic criticism it would fuel.

[Lebron23]

Since we’re on the subject, I feel like the time the Spurs lost to an 8 seed is literally never talked about. Even in this thread, I haven’t seen it mentioned even once :lol

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2011-nba-western-conference-first-round-grizzlies-vs-spurs.html

LeBron choking in the 2011 NBA Finals made people easily forget Memphis beating the no.1 seed Spurs in the playoffs. Randolph outplayed Duncan in that series.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Toody is at best a rich man's Tyson Chandler. Super role player on the right team. Needs at least one dominant scorer and another great one. Not sure Towns and Edward's are those guys.

He needs a Lillard and Tatum duo or something similar. Pretty hard to come by when you're paid 50 mil.

[Axe]

Toody is at best a rich man's Tyson Chandler. Super role player on the right team. Needs at least one dominant scorer and another great one. Not sure Towns and Edward's are those guys.

He needs a Lillard and Tatum duo or something similar. Pretty hard to come by when you're paid 50 mil.
He'd win titles only if he plays in the g-league, in china or taiwan instead.

[Jasper]

I like the Wolves chances against the Nuggets in the playoffs.

I have always thought Rudy was a solid defender.
Against Joker he will have his hands full.
Remember he played him several times a year... so if anyone knows the Joker... Rudy does.

[Xiao Yao You]

I have always thought Rudy was a solid defender.
Against Joker he will have his hands full.
Remember he played him several times a year... so if anyone knows the Joker... Rudy does.

13-8 against him

[ShawkFactory]

13-8 against him

He’s going to have a way tougher time when he’s not posting up Shai and Jalen Williams.

[Xiao Yao You]

He’s going to have a way tougher time when he’s not posting up Shai and Jalen Williams.

Gobert was posting up? No wonder The Wolves only took 8th

[ArbitraryWater]

You speak as if Rudy is moving the needle for them

[John8204]

I think this is a good topic especially ranking centers which is a deep class of players.

so top ten should be pretty easy

Abdul-Jabbar, Chamberlain, Malone, Mikan, Olujawon, Oneal, Reed, Robinson, Russell, Thurmond

Next 10 basically the top 75 guys and the biggest snubs

Cowens, Embiid, Ewing, Hayes, Jokic, Mcadoo, Mutombo, Parish, Unseld, Walton

21-30 here is where we should start and look at Gobert....are there 10 guys you would rank ahead of Gobert

Bellamy, Gilmore, Howard, Issell, Lanier, Laimbeer, Ming, Mouring, Sikma, Wallace

Does he belong in that class...I would say no 31-40

Daniels, Divac, Drummond, Eaton, M. Gasol, Johnston, A. Sabonis, Sampson, Stokes, Towns

41-50

Beaty, Camby, Cousins, Daughtery, Divac, Jordan, Lovelette, Kerr, Risen, Willis

So right now I would say he's in the 31-45 range a deep playoff run with a ring and some better career stats could see him crack the top 25.

[Xiao Yao You]

I think this is a good topic especially ranking centers which is a deep class of players.

so top ten should be pretty easy

Abdul-Jabbar, Chamberlain, Malone, Mikan, Olujawon, Oneal, Reed, Robinson, Russell, Thurmond

Next 10 basically the top 75 guys and the biggest snubs

Cowens, Embiid, Ewing, Hayes, Jokic, Mcadoo, Mutombo, Parish, Unseld, Walton

21-30 here is where we should start and look at Gobert....are there 10 guys you would rank ahead of Gobert

Bellamy, Gilmore, Howard, Issell, Lanier, Laimbeer, Ming, Mouring, Sikma, Wallace

Does he belong in that class...I would say no 31-40

Daniels, Divac, Drummond, Eaton, M. Gasol, Johnston, A. Sabonis, Sampson, Stokes, Towns

41-50

Beaty, Camby, Cousins, Daughtery, Divac, Jordan, Lovelette, Kerr, Risen, Willis

So right now I would say he's in the 31-45 range a deep playoff run with a ring and some better career stats could see him crack the top 25.

Eaton :roll:

[ShawkFactory]

Gobert was posting up? No wonder The Wolves only took 8th

He was against OKC because they don’t have a center on the team.

[John8204]

Eaton :roll:

HOF short list, 2 time DPOY, 4times NBA blocks leader and made the playoffs 10 out 11 seasons.

I'd say top forty is fair...post your list

[HoopologyPhD]

I rank op as #1 troll in ish history.
Other ish trolls have shown a shred of intelligence, nuance or at least a sense of humor
Op is strictly dedicated to retarded, poor English trash posts and threads

[Xiao Yao You]

HOF short list, 2 time DPOY, 4times NBA blocks leader and made the playoffs 10 out 11 seasons.

I'd say top forty is fair...post your list

what a clueless player he was mat he rest in peace

[Lebron23]

I rank op as #1 troll in ish history.
Other ish trolls have shown a shred of intelligence, nuance or at least a sense of humor
Op is strictly dedicated to retarded, poor English trash posts and threads

You can suck my D1ck Kobetard. Kobe is burning in hell right now.

[ImKobe]

Sure the Wolves are a 42 win team…but a 42 win team with a co franchise player who missed 50 games. If they only win 3-4 more of the 50(which isn’t unreasonable) they’re the 4 seed. It’s kinda like LA. 7 seed but…Lebron and AD missed 60 games. They’re probably more of a 2-3 in terms of how they can be expected to perform.

Its still an upset technically if La beats Memphis but…you know?

Talking Jokic in particular yea it would be a bad look…but the mvp losing is always a bad look. Always a “This is your king?!?!?” situation. Maybe it’s extra since he’d have 3 but the basketball side wouldn’t be shocking.

Denver could make a finals run or lose in 7 in the first round and not be like….shocking. The west is too bundled up. How often is the top seed decidedly not top 3 in talent? Them winning would have Walton on the Blazers vibes.

Not impossible but definitely something to praise a little extra. Serious case of chemistry over firepower.

It happens now and then. Jokic is a monster. It would just be…pretty special…right?

That isn’t the kinda team one should expect to be dominant in the playoffs. We all agree on that right?

Well if you remember the Dirk situation in '07, the Warriors were much better than their 42-40 record indicated at the time as well with Baron missing 19 games & with Sjax & Al Harrington being traded there mid-season , but all we remember is him losing to an 8th seed and that awkward MVP press conference after the 1st rd loss.

I just think historically it would be a terrible look for Jokic, even if he doesn't win MVP. Wolves are better than their RS record but they're also a really inconsistent team in 4th quarters/crunch time and they don't have their best perimeter defender. Luckily for them, Denver can't really go small either because of Jokic so it could be a decent series match-up wise.

And yeah, I don't expect Denver to dominate in these POs, though I did think they would be the favorite to come out of the WC about 40 games into the season, but they haven't looked that great since the ASB and Lakers & Suns have emerged as serious contenders.

[NBAGOAT]

Im not sure a 53 win team is even capable of a historic choke anymore. Too many much better teams have lost early And till many low 50s teams have proven to be really similar to lesser teams. Minnesota is like 3 games from being a home court playoff team with KAT having missed over 50 games.

The Nuggets play better together but are simply not the more talented team. Nothing that could happen would feel historic. Be one of those 8-1 “upsets” you never hear about again because the teams weren’t actually that different like when the Knicks beat the first seed Heat they weren’t reeeeeally much worse than.

No “We believe” Warriors vs Mavs situation here where it’s a dominant team with a great record and finals experience vs some upstarts.

Minnesota winning would be as small a story as possible for such a thing. It would be an “upset” but nothing historic to be talked about for years.


I just feel like teams along the lines of the Nuggets lose often enough that we probably can’t keep calling it historic. They aren’t even one of the better 53-ish wins teams we have seen.

who are the 4 in the jumble? Towns, edwards, gobert conley? If conley and gobert are in, the nuggets should add porter to the jumble

[1_BAD_TIGER]

Still like the Wolves chances?

[RRR3]

Still like the Wolves chances?
:lol

[1_BAD_TIGER]

Wolves got this, keep hope alive :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Spurs m8]

Unsurprisingly, Toody hasn't moved the needle for the Wolves

KAT will always be a let down there too

[Manny98]

the trolls will be the ones hurting

Poor Xiao another playoff failure for Rudy :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

Poor Xiao another playoff failure for Rudy :oldlol:

he's lost as the higher seed once. Nice try though troll :facepalm

[Axe]

he's lost as the higher seed once. Nice try though troll :facepalm
And still no trips to the wcf. :ohwell:

[Manny98]

he's lost as the higher seed once. Nice try though troll :facepalm

If he's as good as you make him out to be the Timberwolves shouldn't be in the play in tournament in the first place they should be fighting for the top seed

Rudy hasn't moved the needle for them whatsoever and they gave up everything they had to get him

Failure.

[Full Court]

I like the Wolves chances against the Nuggets in the playoffs.

This guy just keeps getting outed as low IQ over and over and over again.

[Xiao Yao You]

And still no trips to the wcf. :ohwell:

and were never expected to go to the western conference finals

[Xiao Yao You]

If he's as good as you make him out to be the Timberwolves shouldn't be in the play in tournament in the first place they should be fighting for the top seed

Rudy hasn't moved the needle for them whatsoever and they gave up everything they had to get him

Failure.

the Wolves have been failures pretty much since they came into the league. When your all-NBA PF doesn't step up after being out most of the year it's pretty tough