Is Donovan Mitchell a superstar?

[StrongLurk]

I've always been on the fence about him about being a true superstar, but he is a legit scorer/big game player.

He's a 29/5/5 guy in the playoffs over 40 playoff games, so it's not a small sample size. Admittedly most of his games are first/second round where it's a little easier to put up numbers, but still very impressive.

[red1]

yes

[90sgoat]

He's had the aesthetic skills to do it.

If Dame can be a superstar then why can't Mitchell, they're basically the same player, more or less, one has a little more range, one is a little more explosive.

This playoffs could be the place to emerge as a superstar with an upset or two.

[Axe]

@Xiao

[Xiao Yao You]

I've always been on the fence about him about being a true superstar, but he is a legit scorer/big game player.

He's a 29/5/5 guy in the playoffs over 40 playoff games, so it's not a small sample size. Admittedly most of his games are first/second round where it's a little easier to put up numbers, but still very impressive.

and a bubble where they lost because the guy he should have been guarding scored almost as much

[bluechox2]

hes a good sidekick....needs a guy like brunson running with him

[SouBeachTalents]

He was the best player on Utah for many years, I'd say he's a notch below superstar.

[RRR3]

Great playoff performer. Not a true superstar in terms of overall impact imo but definitely a big game guy. Xiao boiling with rage as usual since Mitchell shits on his bumbling oaf of a hero.

[RRR3]

He was the best player on Utah for many years, I'd say he's a notch below superstar.
Incoming Xiao tear-soaked meltdown.

[StrongLurk]

I'd say D-Mitch is still not a superstar, but without a doubt a strong all star and legit first option of a playoff team.

[Axe]

He needs to be a league mvp if he were to be one.

[bluechox2]

this season was all about mitch for the cavs...garland was an afterthought and never stepped up his game or wasnt able to with deferring to mitch all year..

[Xiao Yao You]

can't quit me! How's it going with Full court? :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

this season was all about mitch for the cavs...garland was an afterthought and never stepped up his game or wasnt able to with deferring to mitch all year..

was all about defense and we know Mitchell doesn't play on that end

[bluechox2]

was all about defense and we know Mitchell doesn't play on that end

when talking about guard play...garland needed one more year to blossom on his own...prematurely deffering to mitch now...

[Xiao Yao You]

when talking about guard play...garland needed one more year to blossom on his own...prematurely deffering to mitch now...

if you play with Mitchell you are deferring. He's not giving up the ball

[RRR3]

Xiao with the EPIC tantrum. Imagine being a 70 year old man sobbing like this online :biggums:

[Hey Yo]

this season was all about mitch for the cavs...garland was an afterthought and never stepped up his game or wasnt able to with deferring to mitch all year..

Garland had 1 assist tonight with no FGA in the 2nd half. I realize Mitch was hot but that can't happen for them to have future success.

[Hey Yo]

Xiao with the EPIC tantrum. Imagine being a 70 year old man sobbing like this online :biggums:

Imagine trolling a 70yr old man online.... daily.





just sayin'

[RRR3]

Imagine trolling a 70yr old man online.... daily.





just sayin'
You troll Jordan fans constantly.

[Xiao Yao You]

Imagine trolling a 70yr old man online.... daily.





just sayin'

it's pathetic

[Xiao Yao You]

Garland had 1 assist tonight with no FGA in the 2nd half. I realize Mitch was hot but that can't happen for them to have future success.

one of them will have to go. Only going so far with a small backcourt. If Mitchell played bigger with his length and size maybe but he doesn't

[Jasper]

Super star is a player you build around , and he is the MAN

Mitchel is an All-star , team is built and he is a difference maker , but really the MAN.

notch below super star as others have stated

[StrongLurk]

Bumping this.

Still hard to get a true read on D. Mitch. but dude is averaging 28/5/5 across 56 playoff games. He's totally under the radar historically for someone with those raw numbers, but he isn't the most efficient scorer nor does he have eye popping advanced stats.

Regardless he is still a good playoff scorer and usually very clutch as well.

[Meticode]

No. He falls into the same category as Tatum, but even less so because he's never won a ring or even been to the Conference Finals yet.

I do think he's overlooked though. He has the killer mentality.

[Neal Romer]

When he has games like last night, hes a superstar the next day.

When the shots arent falling so much and he doesnt impact the game in many other ways... we wait until he has his next big night, and then hes a superstar.

I mean theyve even mentioned on broadcasts how the Cavs took a step forward this year by having Mitchell take a step back. You wont win consistently with him trying to go for 30+ every night, hes not SGA or Luka.

Not tryin to knock the guy, but people will act like games like last night tell the whole story. I dont see it that way.

[warriorfan]

He’s not consistent enough. When he’s on one of his heaters that he has show he can pull off a decent amount, he can be pretty close. The problem is he will also shoot the team out of games and when his shot isn’t falling he isn’t contributing a whole lot of other things to the outcome.

[StrongLurk]

When he has games like last night, hes a superstar the next day.

When the shots arent falling so much and he doesnt impact the game in many other ways... we wait until he has his next big night, and then hes a superstar.

I mean theyve even mentioned on broadcasts how the Cavs took a step forward this year by having Mitchell take a step back. You wont win consistently with him trying to go for 30+ every night, hes not SGA or Luka.

Not tryin to knock the guy, but people will act like games like last night tell the whole story. I dont see it that way.

Well he averages 28ppg, so I'd say his shots are falling often in the playoffs. He did take a step back this year but that's because it's more ideal for modern analytical teams, like the Cavs. Most ball dominant players should take a step back in this current era because floor spacing and 3 point shooting are the meta.

[Meticode]

Playoff Averages...

Tatum (114 games): 23.9 PPG, 8.0 RPG, 4.9 APG, 1.1 SPG, 43.9% FG%, 34.4% 3P%, 83.3% FT%

Mitchell (56 games): 28.2PPG, 5.1 RPG, 5.0 APG, 1.3 SPG, 44.2% FG%, 36.3% 3P%, 84.7% FT%

[warriorfan]

Playoff Averages...

Tatum (114 games): 23.9 PPG, 8.0 RPG, 4.9 APG, 1.1 SPG, 43.9% FG%, 34.4% 3P%, 83.3% FT%

Mitchell (56 games): 28.2PPG, 5.1 RPG, 5.0 APG, 1.3 SPG, 44.2% FG%, 36.3% 3P%, 84.7% FT%

Tatum isn’t a superstar either but he also shares the ball more and rebounds and plays defense.

So when he isn’t scoring he can still contribute in other ways. Mitchell doesn’t do that like Tatum.

[Neal Romer]

Well he averages 28ppg, so I'd say his shots are falling often in the playoffs. He did take a step back this year but that's because it's more ideal for modern analytical teams, like the Cavs. Most ball dominant players should take a step back in this current era because floor spacing and 3 point shooting are the meta.

I said you wont win consistently with him trying to go for 30 every night.

Has he won consistently in the playoffs?

[Meticode]

Tatum isn’t a superstar either but he also shares the ball more and rebounds and plays defense.

So when he isn’t scoring he can still contribute in other ways. Mitchell doesn’t do that like Tatum.

Mitchell (56 games): 28.2 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 5.0 APG, 1.3 SPG, 44.2% FG%, 36.3% 3P%, 84.7% FT%

Curry (149 games): 27.0 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 6.3 APG, 1.5 SPG, 45.5% FG%, 39.8% 3P%, 89.0% FT%

[Meticode]

I said you wont win consistently with him trying to go for 30 every night.

Has he won consistently in the playoffs?

Nope. First and second round exits his whole career. It's a team sport. Teammates have to show up too.

[warriorfan]

Mitchell (56 games): 28.2 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 5.0 APG, 1.3 SPG, 44.2% FG%, 36.3% 3P%, 84.7% FT%

Curry (149 games): 27.0 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 6.3 APG, 1.5 SPG, 45.5% FG%, 39.8% 3P%, 89.0% FT%

Learn basketball :lol

[Meticode]

Learn basketball :lol

What do you think I'm trying to say by posting that comparison?

[warriorfan]

What do you think I'm trying to say by posting that comparison?

To be quite honest I have no idea and don’t really care much. You have shown us you aren’t very knowledgeable or insightful about basketball so I’m just going to disengage from this.

[Meticode]

To be quite honest I have no idea and don’t really care much. You have shown us you aren’t very knowledgeable or insightful about basketball so I’m just going to disengage from this.

It just means you didn't read the thread and you have a preconceived assumption in your mind. Doesn't surprise me.

[warriorfan]

It just means you didn't read the thread and you have a preconceived assumption in your mind. Doesn't surprise me.

I tend to skip over xaio and rrr3 posts.

[Meticode]

I tend to skip over xaio and rrr3 posts.

That's your problem then. My point wasn't saying Mitchell is a superstar and that Curry isn't a superstar. I'll just leave it at that.

[Xiao Yao You]

I tend to skip over xaio and rrr3 posts.

And yetbyou ve become one of my biggest troll followers. Putting even manny proctor and axe tonshame. Something you can hang your hat on i guess :applause:

[Xiao Yao You]

Unless the cavs beat boston than it is all just talk. Supposedly he took a step back in the regular season which he hasntbdone before. Is he going to play d, pass the ball and defer to others when the chips are down? Believe it when i see it

[Wally450]

Superstar is a high order for me personally. There are only a small handful of those guys in the NBA, and Mitchell doesn't fall into that category.

[StrongLurk]

I said you wont win consistently with him trying to go for 30 every night.

Has he won consistently in the playoffs?

Has he ever been on an actual contender before this year? The answer is clearly no so of course he hasn't won much.

This year will be telling, the Cavs absolutely make the ECF assuming they remain healthy.

[warriorfan]

And yetbyou ve become one of my biggest troll followers. Putting even manny proctor and axe tonshame. Something you can hang your hat on i guess :applause:

You are so much of a troll you can’t even answer a simple question about where you would select Gobert in an NBA re-draft.

lol

[Xiao Yao You]

Has he ever been on an actual contender before this year? The answer is clearly no so of course he hasn't won much.

This year will be telling, the Cavs absolutely make the ECF assuming they remain healthy.

Gobert has supposedly been a huge failure so why is mitchell not? :facepalm

[Meticode]

Unless the cavs beat boston than it is all just talk. Supposedly he took a step back in the regular season which he hasntbdone before. Is he going to play d, pass the ball and defer to others when the chips are down? Believe it when i see it

The step back was to give more touches to Mobley. Which has worked out in Mobley's favor, the Cavs at least during the regular season and Mitchell so he's not run down by the playoffs. He's not 100% right now, but he wasn't even playing at 80% in the playoffs last year. He played the whole playoffs on one leg basically.

[Meticode]

Superstar is a high order for me personally. There are only a small handful of those guys in the NBA, and Mitchell doesn't fall into that category.

Who are the superstars to you personally?

[Xiao Yao You]

You are so much of a troll you can’t even answer a simple question about where you would select Gobert in an NBA re-draft.

lol

Am i supposed to respond to someone that skips over my posts? Im confused!:coleman:

[warriorfan]

Am i supposed to respond to someone that skips over my posts? Im confused!:coleman:

That’s what I thought. :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

Cant skip me!