Do you think Green's suspension of only 1 game suffices?

[ArbitraryWater]

1 game for a chest stomp is pretty mild.

[King Baron]

Nope, not even close. Should have been suspended for the series minimum, and really the playoffs and part of next season. One of the most flagrant fouls I've seen with clear intent.

[iamgine]

Yes. Dray held back a lot. If he didn't, Sabonis would have a cracked rib. This shows he didn't have malicious intent. Just retaliation for his leg being grabbed.

[ArbitraryWater]

Yes. Dray held back a lot. If he didn't, Sabonis would have a cracked rib. This shows he didn't have malicious intent. Just retaliation for his leg being grabbed.

i dont think kicking someone's chest for no reason is ever holding back.

what is this?
https://twitter.com/GrizzFan76/status/1648187656247885825

[tontoz]

i dont think kicking someone's chest for no reason is ever holding back.



For no reason? :facepalm

[sdot_thadon]

Never been a big Draymond fan, but he grabbed his leg 1st. Should have been a double tech on the review and still kicked green out?

[SouBeachTalents]

i dont think kicking someone's chest for no reason is ever holding back.

what is this?
https://twitter.com/GrizzFan76/status/1648187656247885825
I've found it strange so many people have used the defense of Sabonis grabbing his leg as sufficient reason to stomp on his chest. What you posted is a perfect example, and Middleton's was MUCH more egregious than what Sabonis did.

[tontoz]

I've found it strange so many people have used the defense of Sabonis grabbing his leg as sufficient reason to stomp on his chest. What you posted is a perfect example, and Middleton's was MUCH more egregious than what Sabonis did.

I also find it strange that people, or maybe just one person, are lying that Draymond stomped on his chest for no reason.

If you want to say Draymonds reaction was excessive or dumb then fine. If you say he did it for no reason that is a lie.

[SATAN]

stomp on his chest.

Wouldn't have hurt at all. Like a wrestler fake hurting someone on the ground.

Sabonis done more to make NBA look bad than Draymond on this occasion.

[Manny98]

Shouldn't have got suspended in the first place, an ejection was fine but no further punishment was necessary

Draymond didn't even stomp on him that hard

[Xiao Yao You]

Shouldn't have got suspended in the first place, an ejection was fine but no further punishment was necessary

Draymond didn't even stomp on him that hard


Jason Anderson: X-rays show Sacramento Kings center Domantas Sabonis suffered a sternum contusion (https://*********.com/social/) when Draymond Green stomped on him in Monday’s game against the Golden State Warriors. Sabonis will be listed as questionable for Game 3.

– via Twitter JandersonSacBee (https://twitter.com/JandersonSacBee)



Sean Cunningham: Joe Dumars, NBA’s Executive VP of Basketball Operations, announced the suspension for Draymond Green for stepping on Draymond Green, but also noted “the suspension was based in part on Green’s history of unsportsmanlike acts.” (https://*********.com/social/)
– via Twitter SeanCunningham (https://twitter.com/SeanCunningham)



he's lucky it's only one game. Sabonis could be out longer

[John8204]

If Sabonis plays in the next game than no...Sabonis intentionally tried to injure the guy with that leg grab. Imagine if Green tore his ACL because of that dirty play

[Nb1]

If Sabonis plays in the next game than no...Sabonis intentionally tried to injure the guy with that leg grab. Imagine if Green tore his ACL because of that dirty play

WTF is this bs :roll:

Since when GRABBING someone's leg causes any injury :roll:?? Just slows you down but does nothing else lol.

Grab your gf's leg and see what happen and now stomp on her, it's not even up for debate.

Draymond did the same last year in the playoffs anyway and didnt get anything. Grabbing someone's leg is as harmless as hugging someone.

Pat Bev got 3 games for a shove and Dray gets 1 for stomping on someone on the ground? Ridiculous.

[John8204]

WTF is this bs :roll:

Since when GRABBING someone's leg causes any injury :roll:?? Just slows you down but does nothing else since you're in a static position lol.

Draymond did the same last year in the playoffa and didnt get anything.

Pat Bev got 3 games for a shove and Dray gets 1 for stomping on someone on the ground? Ridiculous.

You are altering the fall of a 6'6 human being

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[FultzNationRISE]

If Sabonis plays in the next game than no...Sabonis intentionally tried to injure the guy with that leg grab. Imagine if Green tore his ACL because of that dirty play


No he didnt. He tried to prevent Green from involving himself in the play. It’s an instinctive move if you cant recover and need to keep your man from making a play. But it was also an illegal move which caused Green to feel justified in taking a revenge shot. Again, if you grow up playing competitive sports this is just normal. I mean a stomp seems extreme in theory but it wasnt as if he stomped his head into the hard wood. It was just a lil cheap shot. Sabonis even downplayed it after the game and seemed fine. The MRI stuff is probably just gamesmanship to provoke a Green suspension.

To give you an example when I played soccer as a lad, I was naturally quite the stud and frequently beat my defender. As I blew by theyd often instinctively grab my jersey or my shoulder to keep me from racing past. Which is frustrating bc youre trying to make a play and someone is getting a competitive advantage that isnt being called. So when guys pulled my arm or my jersey Id flail my arm back and discreetly smack em in the face as we’re tangled up, with it looking like an involuntary movement of my arm from the jersey being pulled. Bc the ref cant call me for a foul unless he calls the jersey pull which came first, otherwise my arm wouldnt have gone back.

Its just gamesmanship. Green was sending a message to the refs more than anything, trying to force their hand to acknowledge the initial foul. I recognized it right away, it’s just what I used to do.

It’s nothing like the Artest/Harden thing that deranged idiot bluetooth is comparing it to where it was an unprovoked elbow to the head after a play was over.

It’s really not that big a deal. Some of yall need to breathe.

[warriorfan]

Shouldn't have got suspended in the first place, an ejection was fine but no further punishment was necessary

Draymond didn't even stomp on him that hard

This. Sabonis was acting.

[jlip]

i dont think kicking someone's chest for no reason is ever holding back.

what is this?
https://twitter.com/GrizzFan76/status/1648187656247885825


I've found it strange so many people have used the defense of Sabonis grabbing his leg as sufficient reason to stomp on his chest. What you posted is a perfect example, and Middleton's was MUCH more egregious than what Sabonis did.

https://www.facebook.com/100000710897937/videos/173626082262119/
^This too^

Plus the league made it clear that it was not just the stomp that caused the one game suspension. It was also Draymond's history. In a vacuum if somebody else like Wiggins or Poole had done it, neither of them more than likely would have been suspended. Draymond is getting the Rodman and Artest treatment where because of their history, tolerance for their on court indiscretions were less than for other players in the league. Dillon Brooks is currently in the same category right now.

I heard Shannon Sharpe mention today that it's just like the criminal justice system, a person's priors or "criminal history" factors into their sentencing.

[AirBonner]

Op what do you think the repercussions would have been had a white player done this to a black player? Suspended rest of playoffs marching and looting the streets for weeks on end would be my guess

[bdonovan]

1 game for a chest stomp is pretty mild.

In truth, it should have been a 0 game suspension and no foul on Green, merely a technical on Sabonis and possibly a flagrant for an attempted injury.

As I explained earlier, Green had to put his other leg down because his other leg was stretched wide; the one Sabonis had improperly grabbed had to be yanked to wrest it free, and had to come down immediately for Green to maintain his position. He easily could have suffered a knee injury or ankle injury had he not done what he did which was to immediately place his other leg down.

The NBA made a wise decision in suspending Green one game because the bulk of its fans are scared suburbanites who saw a frightening looking black guy appear to "stomp" on a defenseless white guy on the ground. Those are not good optics.

Sabonis is one of the dirtiest players in the game, but the refs have racial solidarity with him, and achieve psychological comfort in letting him get away with murder- elbowing opposing players, shoving them, and otherwise manhandling them. In any fair environment, he would have been thrown out of the game for his brutal play by the second quarter.

Long story short, to preserve NBA fan loyalty, the league did what it should- from a purely pragmatic, amoral point of view.

[HylianNightmare]

Not even close

[Johnny32]

it's fine all things considered. i wouldn't have suspended him personally.

[bullettooth]

Nope, not even close. Should have been suspended for the series minimum, and really the playoffs and part of next season. One of the most flagrant fouls I've seen with clear intent.

This. Absolutely this. Ron Artest got 7 games for elbowing Harden in the head. WTF is just one game for stomping on someone's chest?

[ArbitraryWater]

For no reason? :facepalm

Yes, for no reason. Are you a 6 year old with no impulse?

A guy like Brooks was grabbed much more severely and never even thought about kicking the person lying down.

[ArbitraryWater]

Wouldn't have hurt at all. Like a wrestler fake hurting someone on the ground.

Sabonis done more to make NBA look bad than Draymond on this occasion.


not how the rest of the world sees it lol

[tontoz]

Yes, for no reason. Are you a 6 year old with no impulse?

A guy like Brooks was grabbed much more severely and never even thought about kicking the person lying down.


Brooks definitely thought about it, he just didn't do it and got taken down. He knows he is a marked man after all his other incidents. He showed some self awareness which Green clearly lacks.

You are just clueless. If Sabonis doesn't grab Green then he doesn't get stepped on. Saying Green did it for no reason tells me you are lying or just an idiot. Sabonis got a tech for nothing? STFU clown.

The league came out and said they took Green's history into account when they decided to suspend him. If someone with a clean record had done it they probably wouldn't have been suspended.

[ArbitraryWater]

Brooks definitely thought about it, he just didn't do it and got taken down. He knows he is a marked man after all his other incidents. He showed some self awareness which Green clearly lacks.

You are just clueless. If Sabonis doesn't grab Green then he doesn't get stepped on. Saying Green did it for no reason tells me you are lying or just an idiot. Sabonis got a tech for nothing? STFU clown.

The league came out and said they took Green's history into account when they decided to suspend him. If someone with a clean record had done it they probably wouldn't have been suspended.


You're arguing super emotionally, so it's no surprise that you argue that Green had a "reason". Sure he had a reason from his POV, people with no impulse always see reasons. That doesn't mean those are objective reasons.

In reality, Green's foot was loose and he was in absolutely no danger or a position of self defense. So the only argument for kicking out, is an emotional one. Because Draymond Green has a short leash.

[tontoz]

You're arguing super emotionally, so it's no surprise that you argue that Green had a "reason". Sure he had a reason from his POV, people with no impulse always see reasons. That doesn't mean those are objective reasons.

In reality, Green's foot was loose and he was in absolutely no danger or a position of self defense. So the only argument for kicking out, is an emotional one. Because Draymond Green has a short leash.


Once again you show your stupidity. Saying Green overreated and saying he had no reason are two different things. One can be reasonably argued, the other is flat wrong.

Sabonis grabbed Green's leg to prevent him from running down the floor. That isn't an opinion it is a fact. If Sabonis hadn't grabbed him and Green stomped on him anyway then you could say Green did it for no reason.

That's just basic common sense which you obviously lack. That's probably why you immediately brought up the race angle, a low IQ.

[BurningHammer]

While it is not impossible winning without Dray, Warriors still better need all hands on deck to get out of the 0-2 hole.

We will see if this Warriors roster is deep enough to survive.

[ArbitraryWater]

Once again you show your stupidity. Saying Green overreated and saying he had no reason are two different things. One can be reasonably argued, the other is flat wrong.

Sabonis grabbed Green's leg to prevent him from running down the floor. That isn't an opinion it is a fact. If Sabonis hadn't grabbed him and Green stomped on him anyway then you could say Green did it for no reason.

That's just basic common sense which you obviously lack. That's probably why you immediately brought up the race angle, a low IQ.


Just because there is correlation between that behaviour, does not mean he had a reason. When people speak of having a reason, they mean a legit reason. That is implied. And he did not have that and any civilised person will say the same and is saying the same.

But you've shown how thick you are in this conversation.

[tontoz]

Just because there is correlation between that behaviour, does not mean he had a reason. When people speak of having a reason, they mean a legit reason. That is implied. And he did not have that and any civilised person will say the same and is saying the same.

But you've shown how thick you are in this conversation.


Nonsense. One dirty play led to another. In a pickup game sabonis might have to deal with a lot more than a stomp on the chest. Was green's response excessive? Sure but if you cheap shot someone you have to expect a response you might not like

The stomp itself isn't even the big issue. The real reason that Green f'd up is the timing. He has to know coming into the playoffs that guys will try to bait him into doing something stupid and getting tossed/suspended.

Missing a game in the regular season is no biggie so stomp away. Can't take that chance in the playoffs.

[FKAri]

In truth, it should have been a 0 game suspension and no foul on Green, merely a technical on Sabonis and possibly a flagrant for an attempted injury.

As I explained earlier, Green had to put his other leg down because his other leg was stretched wide; the one Sabonis had improperly grabbed had to be yanked to wrest it free, and had to come down immediately for Green to maintain his position. He easily could have suffered a knee injury or ankle injury had he not done what he did which was to immediately place his other leg down.

The NBA made a wise decision in suspending Green one game because the bulk of its fans are scared suburbanites who saw a frightening looking black guy appear to "stomp" on a defenseless white guy on the ground. Those are not good optics.

Sabonis is one of the dirtiest players in the game, but the refs have racial solidarity with him, and achieve psychological comfort in letting him get away with murder- elbowing opposing players, shoving them, and otherwise manhandling them. In any fair environment, he would have been thrown out of the game for his brutal play by the second quarter.

Long story short, to preserve NBA fan loyalty, the league did what it should- from a purely pragmatic, amoral point of view.

lmao


Nope, not even close. Should have been suspended for the series minimum, and really the playoffs and part of next season. One of the most flagrant fouls I've seen with clear intent.

Seems ISH has a wide range of takes on this. Personally, I would've been OK with 0 days or the 1 day.

I haven't watched it closely to see how hard Draymond stomped him exactly. It was just soft enough to where you could plausibly argue that he was just trying to get his leg out of his hold. But barely. Draymond's a great actor tho and we've seen him purposely push the envelope on these cases and that has to be taken into account.

Note that you will never see Draymond on the receiving end of these type of engages. He's always the one that takes it to the next level and artfuly does it just enough to where you can argue it wasn't THAT bad if you look at it from a certain perspective. Truly the modern day Bruce Bowen.