Lebron James has by far the best +/- in playoff history with +1300 !

[Nb1]

Also most wins in playoff history with 175 wins! Just wanted to put this out there! Here's the link:

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/highest-plus-minus-in-playoff-history

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/players-most-wins-in-playoff-history

[Full Court]

-86 in the finals with an abysmal 22-33 finals record.

Shrivels when it counts.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

:lebroncry:

[SATAN]

Also most wins in playoff history with 175 wins! Just wanted to put this out there! Here's the link:

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/highest-plus-minus-in-playoff-history

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/players-most-wins-in-playoff-history

Amazing. :bowdown:

[ImKobe]

What's the +/- in the Finals?

[hold this L]

It's almost as if he's played more in the NBA than anyone else.

[Axe]

It's almost as if he's played more in the NBA than anyone else.
And a lot of the fools who severely despise him here weren't even born yet 20 seasons ago. :lol

[Nb1]

It's almost as if he's played more in the NBA than anyone else.

Weird, i see a lot of people making threads when he has a negative +/- stat, so i would expect the more games he played to be in his disadvantage and he should then have the worst +/- possible.

But surprisingly he's number 1 in playoff history far ahead of everyone else...

[Johnny32]

lebron has a jordanesque peak with kareemesque longevity. there will never be another.

[tpols]

He's a big negative in the Finals though. Most of overall playoff +/- came from beating cans out east his whole career.

[Axe]

He's a big negative in the Finals though. Most of overall playoff +/- came from beating cans out east his whole career.
Yet four finals mvps > two finals mvps

:confusedshrug:

[SouBeachTalents]

Yet four finals mvps > two finals mvps

:confusedshrug:
Kobe was a much better Finals performer than LeBron.

5/7 > 4/10

[tpols]

Yet four finals mvps > two finals mvps

:confusedshrug:

He has a losing record while kobe had a winning finals record even without Shaq.

[Johnny32]

it's embarrassing how the desperate tards are still trying to push the angle that losing in duh 1st rd is better for your legacy than winning in the 1st rd, winning in the 2nd rd, winning in the 3rd rd, and then losing in the finals.

legoat haters remind me of trump tards.

[Bacchus]

What is Lebrons +/- ratio when he and Jason Terry are on the same court during the finals

[dankok8]

Plus minus numbers are only available since 96-97 but considering the sheer number of games he's played, he's possibly the all-time leader anyways. It's either him or Kareem.

[Full Court]

What is Lebrons +/- ratio when he and Jason Terry are on the same court during the finals

:roll:

OP is shook.

So is Beezleblubber.

So is the dingus.

[Axe]

it's embarrassing how the desperate tards are still trying to push the angle that losing in duh 1st rd is better for your legacy than winning in the 1st rd, winning in the 2nd rd, winning in the 3rd rd, and then losing in the finals.

legoat haters remind me of trump tards.
Exhibit A - the sore loser redneck jizzrag before me.

[Nb1]

:roll:

OP is shook.

So is Beezleblubber.

So is the dingus.

Oh yeah definately shook :roll:

So funny seeing all the meltdowns while the guy you guys are trying to discredit with a criteria is the number 1 on it. You guys are dumber than what i thought :oldlol:

[Full Court]

Exhibit A - the sore loser redneck jizzrag before me.

What a merman dingus. :roll:

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[Full Court]

Oh yeah definately shook :roll:

So funny seeing all the meltdowns while the guy you guys are trying to discredit with a criteria is the number 1 on it. You guys are dumber than what i thought :oldlol:

You can whine and fume all you want, but the fact remains that LeShrivel is the biggest post season choker of all time.

And yes, you're obviously shook or you wouldn't spam so many threads that are feeble attempts at damage control.

[Axe]

Oh yeah definately shook :roll:

So funny seeing all the meltdowns while the guy you guys are trying to discredit with a criteria is the number 1 on it. You guys are dumber than what i thought :oldlol:
So shook that he always rates his own threads 5* immediately after creating them and praise himself like an autistic individual. Then proceed to have the last words by doing bitch fits en route to derailing multiple threads. :hammerhead:

[Spurs m8]

As we always said...he cakewalked the easy conference and then got bukkaked when it mattered.

-86 against real teams when it matters

[SATAN]

Oh yeah definately shook :roll:

So funny seeing all the meltdowns while the guy you guys are trying to discredit with a criteria is the number 1 on it. You guys are dumber than what i thought :oldlol:

Literally the dumbest people on Earth.

[kawhileonard2]

Kobe was a much better Finals performer than LeBron.

5/7 > 4/10

This

[Full Court]

So shook that he always rates his own threads 5* immediately after creating them and praise himself like an autistic individual. Then proceed to have the last words by doing bitch fits en route to derailing multiple threads. :hammerhead:


Literally the dumbest people on Earth.

Bitch fit brothers back at it. :roll:

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[Axe]

Should the forum gods put the forum nazi jizzrag back where he rightfully belongs? His stupid meltdowns just scream a big resounding YES. :kobe:

[kawhileonard2]

Has the worst record in the Finals and Olympics of guys with 3+ league mvp's as well.

[Full Court]

Should the forum gods put the forum nazi jizzrag back where he rightfully belongs? His stupid meltdowns just scream a big resounding YES. :kobe:

And there's the bitch fit.

:lebronbamazed:

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F12Z4v34 UXpOxR6%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1

[Axe]

He's really asking for it. :lebronamazed:

@kblaze
@rmwg

[Full Court]

He's really asking for it. :lebronamazed:

@kblaze
@rmwg

^Bitch fit.

:yaohappy:

[Nb1]

It's actually crazy, i didn't even know that before. I thought since he played the Warriors so many times and played with all these bums in the playoffs during so many years he'd be far behind anyone on Golden State who always blew everyone out of the water having their 10th option better than anyone else's 2nd option, but even on that stat Lebron is number 1 :roll:

Most points in playoff history
Most playoff wins in history
Best +/- in playoff history

Dude is so great there is not 1 stat his haters can pick on :roll:

So funny seeing them squirm :oldlol:

[ImKobe]

It's actually crazy, i didn't even know that before. I thought since he played the Warriors so many times and played with all these bums in the playoffs during so many years he'd be far behind anyone on Golden State who always blew everyone out of the water having their 10th option better than anyone else's 2nd option, but even on that stat Lebron is number 1 :roll:

Most points in playoff history
Most playoff wins in history
Best +/- in playoff history

Dude is so great there is not 1 stat his haters can pick on :roll:

So funny seeing them squirm :oldlol:

Inflated by playing in the weak ass EC and he's played in by far the most Playoff games out of everyone so the stat would be inflated, given that he's team-hopped his entire career.

Dray is 3rd all-time in Playoffs +/- with a +1003 and he's played in 119 less games, Curry is 5th on the list with 131 less games played. If you do the math on the average Bran is a +4.85 while Steph is a +6.83.

[Axe]

Inflated by playing in the weak ass EC and he's played in by far the most Playoff games out of everyone so the stat would be inflated, given that he's team-hopped his entire career.

Dray is 3rd all-time in Playoffs +/- with a +1003 and he's played in 119 less games, Curry is 5th on the list with 131 less games played.
By that logic, the warriors five straight finals runshttps://i.ibb.co/rGTfpKq/IMG-20230312-120638.jpg (https://i.ibb.co/tH5jfVg/IMG-20220906-091426.jpg) are also weak since nobody in the west beat them during that period. :confusedshrug:

[ImKobe]

By that logic, the warriors five straight finals runshttps://i.ibb.co/rGTfpKq/IMG-20230312-120638.jpg (https://i.ibb.co/tH5jfVg/IMG-20220906-091426.jpg) are also weak since nobody in the west beat them during that period. :confusedshrug:

They played better teams in the first 3 rounds for sure. When were they playing sub-.500 teams or bottom 10 offenses and without facing a single 50-win team en route to the Finals? Even when they played mediocre teams at least they still faced Dame or Harden etc while Bran played 2nd tier stars like DeRozan & PG for the vast majority of those runs as all the superstars were in the WC.

But like I already pointed out, Curry has a higher Net Rating than Bran and is only about +300 behind his total despite playing in almost half as many games lol. Steph has the highest average +/- (Dray .01 behind) in Playoffs history since they started tracking it.

[Spurs m8]

He's really asking for it. :lebronamazed:

@kblaze
@rmwg

Fvck, you are such a little b1tch

[Axe]

Ofc Lue waits for the team to melt down before he makes the change.. they turned the season around by benching Morris & Now he's playing most of the game in a do or die situation while being completely useless ffs.
???

[Axe]

:cry:
Stfu you dishonest soggy piece of shit.

[ImKobe]

???

Cmon I'm waiting for you to tell me how good the EC was from 2011-18. I'm waiting.

[Full Court]

Stfu you dishonest soggy piece of shit.

:roll:

This dingus has a higher bitch fit % than LeShrivel's 3 point %.

[Axe]

https://i.ibb.co/J5GCtsx/IMG-20230106-111446.jpg
Redneck jizzrag bleeding very hard again. :oldlol:

Desperately raging so he can get another strike, as usual. ;)

[Full Court]

Redneck jizzrag bleeding very hard again. :oldlol:

Desperately raging so he can get another strike, as usual. ;)

The anti-semitic merman bitch over here posting swastikas again.

Bitch fit loser. :lol

[Axe]

https://i.ibb.co/S70GSw4/IMG-20230423-071233.jpg
Yikes. :oldlol:

Imagine being shitted on by multiple users on a daily basis, getting ethered by a mod at times and finally receiving a ban itb several weeks earlier. A true narcissist forum punching bag indeed. Worst troll ever in this planet. :hammerhead:

[Full Court]

Yikes. :oldlol:

Imagine being shitted on by multiple users on a daily basis, getting ethered by a mod at times and finally receiving a ban itb several weeks earlier. A true narcissist forum punching bag indeed. Worst troll ever in this planet. :hammerhead:

The swastika-spamming dingus types a bunch of words, but all that really comes out is this:


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It's called a bitch fit.

[Axe]

Bleed harder, jizzrag.

[Full Court]

Bleed harder, jizzrag.

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[kawhileonard2]

Most bronze medals, most times changing teams, longest ever to win a title for franchise that drafted him 11 years and that after switching teams. Need I say more?

[And1AllDay]

It's almost as if he's played more in the NBA than anyone else.

almost as if he wins series playoffs more :oldlol:

[Axe]

They played better teams in the first 3 rounds for sure. When were they playing sub-.500 teams or bottom 10 offenses and without facing a single 50-win team en route to the Finals? Even when they played mediocre teams at least they still faced Dame or Harden etc while Bran played 2nd tier stars like DeRozan & PG for the vast majority of those runs as all the superstars were in the WC.
Well, i guess this is also one big reason why you hate tatum. Simplyhttps://i.ibb.co/rGTfpKq/IMG-20230312-120638.jpg (https://i.ibb.co/tH5jfVg/IMG-20220906-091426.jpg) because he wasn't able to defeat him and the cavs on kong's last finals run in the east. Despite rookie tatum and the Cs having a 2-0 lead earlier in that matchup bt. :kobe:

[And1AllDay]

Well, i guess this is also one big reason why you hate tatum. Simplyhttps://i.ibb.co/rGTfpKq/IMG-20230312-120638.jpg (https://i.ibb.co/tH5jfVg/IMG-20220906-091426.jpg) because he wasn't able to defeat him and the cavs on kong's last finals run in the east. Despite rookie tatum and the Cs having a 2-0 lead earlier in that matchup bt. :kobe:

:lebronamazed:

[red1]

What's the +/- in the Finals?


He's a big negative in the Finals though. Most of overall playoff +/- came from beating cans out east his whole career.

4 finals MVPs

only player to win a finals MVP over a 70-win team
only player to beat the spurs in the finals aka the only player with a finals MVP over pop

played the warriors and spurs 7 times and teammates often got injured like kyrie wade and love. 2007 finals was the most lopsided finals ever.

[red1]

this is all that matters:


https://sportsration.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Lebron-James.jpg

[ImKobe]

4 finals MVPs

only player to win a finals MVP over a 70-win team
only player to beat the spurs in the finals aka the only player with a finals MVP over pop

played the warriors and spurs 7 times and teammates often got injured like kyrie wade and love. 2007 finals was the most lopsided finals ever.

2007 most lopsided? Wasn't it close every game? Didn't those Spurs lose to a Kobe one-man team in the WCF in 5 the next year?

[ShawkFactory]

2007 most lopsided? Wasn't it close every game? Didn't those Spurs lose to a Kobe one-man team in the WCF in 5 the next year?

I think he meant talent-wise.

[ImKobe]

I think he meant talent-wise.

I guess you could argue that if you disregard the Cavs' defense that year but it's funny how it wasn't a blowout when Bran was all-time bad, given the most "lopsided" gap in talent in Finals history.

[ShawkFactory]

I guess you could argue that if you disregard the Cavs' defense that year but it's funny how it wasn't a blowout when Bran was all-time bad, given the most "lopsided" gap in talent in Finals history.

Well just look at the rosters. That’s where the talent gap comes. The 2-4 contributors in the finals for the Cavs were Gooden, Boobie, and Sasha Pavlovic. None of them would even be starters on the Spurs. Perhaps barely even rotation guys.

The games were close because the pace was slow and Lebron, despite shooting poorly, controlled that aspect and was excellent defensively.

The games being close doesn’t make the supporting cast better than they were.

[1987_Lakers]

Always found it weird how ImKobe has a LeBron avatar despite always hating on him.

[ImKobe]

Well just look at the rosters. That’s where the talent gap comes. The 2-4 contributors in the finals for the Cavs were Gooden, Boobie, and Sasha Pavlovic. None of them would even be starters on the Spurs. Perhaps barely even rotation guys.

The games were close because the pace was slow and Lebron, despite shooting poorly, controlled that aspect and was excellent defensively.

The games being close doesn’t make the supporting cast better than they were.

So it was just because of Bran? zzz why do I even ask y'all about anything you'll never give his teams any credit.

[ShawkFactory]

So it was just because of Bran? zzz why do I even ask y'all about anything you'll never give his teams any credit.

I mean he was by far the best player..? And no one else that contributed would even get minutes on the Spurs

You earlier called the 2008 Lakers a one man team so get off me with this bullshit :lol

[Keno]

Always found it weird how ImKobe has a LeBron avatar despite always hating on him.

because he's a kobe stan deep down, "acting" as a lakers fan lol. shit talks bron ever chance he gets and barely praises him when he does well.

[8Ball]

because he's a kobe stan deep down, "acting" as a lakers fan lol. shit talks bron ever chance he gets and barely praises him when he does well.

Kobe's death + Lakers winning the chip killed off 99% of the LeBron haters that were Kobetards.

There are a few left.

[ImKobe]

I mean he was by far the best player..? And no one else that contributed would even get minutes on the Spurs

You earlier called the 2008 Lakers a one man team so get off me with this bullshit :lol

Look at their 4-8 in that series lmao.. you're going overboard with the Bran stanning on this one bro. That Spurs team was old as ****.

[1987_Lakers]

I mean he was by far the best player..? And no one else that contributed would even get minutes on the Spurs

You earlier called the 2008 Lakers a one man team so get off me with this bullshit :lol

Ridiculous that he hypes LeBron's teammates from 2007, then calls the '08 Lakers a 1 man team even though they had Gasol. You just made him look like a fool.

[ImKobe]

Ridiculous that he hypes LeBron's teammates from 2007, then calls the '08 Lakers a 1 man team even though they had Gasol. You just made him look like a fool.

Gasol put up 13 ppg & was borderline trash in 3 out of 5 games lmao. At least the Cavs held TD in check and dominated the offensive glass. Give the supporting cast & Mike Brown credit because it wasn't Bran keeping them close in that Finals or the ECSF in '08 when he was bricking everything & turning it over the first 4 games.

[Axe]

Ridiculous that he hypes LeBron's teammates from 2007, then calls the '08 Lakers a 1 man team even though they had Gasol. You just made him look like a fool.
He's so dimwitted lmao.

[ShawkFactory]

Look at their 4-8 in that series lmao.. you're going overboard with the Bran stanning on this one bro. That Spurs team was old as ****.

I’m not claiming they’re the greatest team of all time or anything. But they were a 60 win team with the #1 SRS in the league by a pretty decent margin. You’re “they’re old!” statement doesn’t work.

Drew Gooden and Sasha Pavlovic aren’t really going to cut it against that. If you remove Bron from the situation you know that’s like a 24 win team a best.

[Full Court]

I’m not claiming they’re the greatest team of all time or anything. But they were a 60 win team with the #1 SRS in the league by a pretty decent margin. You’re “they’re old!” statement doesn’t work.

Drew Gooden and Sasha Pavlovic aren’t really going to cut it against that. If you remove Bron from the situation you know that’s like a 24 win team a best.

If you remove Bron from the 2023 Lakers they're a 55 win team.

[ImKobe]

I’m not claiming they’re the greatest team of all time or anything. But they were a 60 win team with the #1 SRS in the league by a pretty decent margin. You’re “they’re old!” statement doesn’t work.

Drew Gooden and Sasha Pavlovic aren’t really going to cut it against that. If you remove Bron from the situation you know that’s like a 24 win team a best.

Yes it does. You could replace their 4-10 with the supporting players on the Cavs and they'd be a better team. Cavs won 50 games, had a top 4 defense and were 7th in SRS, so you're not talking about a bad team here.

Your excuse for these games being close despite Bran's terrible offense is that it was HIS defense that kept them in it, disregarding what Big Z, Andy V & Gooden did on the offensive glass. Andy V and Big Z split minutes so you're gonna make the dumb Bran stan argument of "how many Cavs averaged 10+ ppg!" and not even mention it...

You could pick either Big Z or Andy V and they'd be getting 25-30 mpg at the 5 easily as a starter in San Antonio. Heck, they had a 34 y.o Finley starting at the 2, you could easily give his minutes to Pavlovic.

Finley, Oberto, Elson, Horry & Barry weren't world-beaters by any metric.

[ShawkFactory]

Yes it does. You could replace their 4-10 with the supporting players on the Cavs and they'd be a better team. Cavs won 50 games, had a top 4 defense and were 7th in SRS, so you're not talking about a bad team here.

Your excuse for these games being close despite Bran's terrible offense is that it was HIS defense that kept them in it, disregarding what Big Z, Andy V & Gooden did on the offensive glass. Andy V and Big Z split minutes so you're gonna make the dumb Bran stan argument of "how many Cavs averaged 10+ ppg!" and not even mention it...

You could pick either Big Z or Andy V and they'd be getting 25-30 mpg at the 5 easily as a starter in San Antonio. Heck, they had a 34 y.o Finley starting at the 2, you could easily give his minutes to Pavlovic.

Finley, Oberto, Elson, Horry & Barry weren't world-beaters by any metric.

Okay so let’s say the 4-10 were fairly equal or even a slight advantage to the Cavs. Wouldn’t the fact that the Spurs had an insanely superior 2-3 really make the difference?

It’s okay to admit that the 07 Cavs didn’t have a very good supporting cast. They were certainly scrappy but relatively untalented. When going against a team with a top 10 guy ever and 2 other HOFers all in their prime? Again...not really gonna cut it.

[ImKobe]

Okay so let’s say the 4-10 were fairly equal or even a slight advantage to the Cavs. Wouldn’t the fact that the Spurs had an insanely superior 2-3 really make the difference?

It’s okay to admit that the 07 Cavs didn’t have a very good supporting cast. They were certainly scrappy but relatively untalented. When going against a team with a top 10 guy ever and 2 other HOFers all in their prime? Again...not really gonna cut it.

There wasn't that insane of a difference, just that Bran was no Kobe. You could make the same argument for the Lakers in '08 with 2 of their starters out & Pau not playing up to par but KB was unstoppable in those close moments no matter who you put in front of him. You can't just chalk shit up to Bran's supporting cast and absolve him of blame.

[ShawkFactory]

There wasn't that insane of a difference, just that Bran was no Kobe. You could make the same argument for the Lakers in '08 with 2 of their starters out & Pau not playing up to par but KB was unstoppable in those close moments no matter who you put in front of him. You can't just chalk shit up to Bran's supporting cast and absolve him of blame.

Lol okay.

[ImKobe]

Lol okay.

A historic/insane difference but they get outscored by just 6 pts a game with Bran putting up one of the worst series by a superstar in Finals history. Ok lol.

Oh & how are you going to defend the Cavs losing close games vs. Boston the following year? He went 2/18 with 10 TO and they lose by 4 on the road.. They win 2 at home with him putting up 21 ppg on 33%FG in Games 3 & 4. I guess it's just his individual defense & he had no one in Cleveland. What a joke.

[Nb1]

Okay so let’s say the 4-10 were fairly equal or even a slight advantage to the Cavs. Wouldn’t the fact that the Spurs had an insanely superior 2-3 really make the difference?

It’s okay to admit that the 07 Cavs didn’t have a very good supporting cast. They were certainly scrappy but relatively untalented. When going against a team with a top 10 guy ever and 2 other HOFers all in their prime? Again...not really gonna cut it.

The Cavs were literally a 1-man team lol. The 2 years before Bron came they won 24 and 30 games or something :roll:

The roster was one of the worst in NBA history at best and Bron took them immediately to the finals as soon as he arrived.

How can anyone even dispute that. He joined one of the worst teams in the NBA at that time and beat the best with that dumpster. Just look at all his teammates back then, they never made it anywhere else.

[Full Court]

The Cavs were literally a 1-man team lol. The 2 years before Bron came they won 24 and 30 games or something :roll:

The roster was one of the worst in NBA history at best and Bron took them immediately to the finals as soon as he arrived.

How can anyone even dispute that. He joined one of the worst teams in the NBA at that time and beat the best with that dumpster. Just look at all his teammates back then, they never made it anywhere else.

Then he jumped ship like the chronic loser he was.

"Not five, not six, not seven...."

:roll:

And that's the guy you choose to fluff.

:lebronamazed:

[Nb1]

Then he jumped ship like the chronic loser he was.

"Not five, not six, not seven...."

:roll:

And that's the guy you choose to fluff.

:lebronamazed:

Yeah, he gave them a ring and when his mission was done he went to another mediocre team who was barely winning 20 games a season before he arrived and also handed them a ring. Dude just takes on the biggest challenges possible instead of staying in his comfort zone in 1 team. He’d have 4 more rings if he just stayed with 1 team but he just wants to defy the odds. People said he’d never win in the west? Went in there and immediatly won making all the haters look stupid :roll:

[Full Court]

Yeah, he gave them a ring and when his mission was done he went to another mediocre team who was barely winning 20 games a season before he arrived and also handed them a ring. Dude just takes on the biggest challenges possible instead of staying in his comfort zone in 1 team. He’d have 4 more rings if he just stayed with 1 team but he just wants to defy the odds. People said he’d never win in the west? Went in there and immediatly won making all the haters look stupid :roll:

He hasn't taken on a challenge in his life. He's made a career out of seeking the easy road.

And the fact that you have your head up his rectum says more about YOU than anything. :confusedshrug: