View Full Version : The Lakers 2020 title run. Good, or nah?
AussieSteve
04-25-2023, 06:49 PM
Do repeated strong post season performances by Butler and the Heat enhance people's view of the quality of the Lakers 2020 championship?
At the time, many people were discrediting lebron for needing 6 games to beat them.
ArbitraryWater
04-25-2023, 06:51 PM
Heat and Buter are payoff animas.
Not just since 2020 do they ony get taken out by the big dogs, but they have great scaps on the way and are on their way to adding another right now.
2020: oss to akers, eventua champs.
2021: oss to bucks, eventua champs.
2022: oss to cetics, finaists, shot away from finas.
2023: smeing another ECF right now.
brutal team
AussieSteve
04-25-2023, 07:02 PM
Heat and Buter are payoff animas.
Not just since 2020 do they ony get taken out by the big dogs, but they have great scaps on the way and are on their way to adding another right now.
2020: oss to akers, eventua champs.
2021: oss to bucks, eventua champs.
2022: oss to cetics, finaists, shot away from finas.
2023: smeing another ECF right now.
brutal team
What's wrong with your L key?
Otherwise I entirely agree.
For sure, he made that team a legit title contender than when he was with the sixers. But you can't avoid people who are still sour over the 2020 disney bubble.
What's wrong with your L key?
Otherwise I entirely agree.
His kb is jammed lol. It isn't the first time.
SATAN
04-25-2023, 08:07 PM
At the time, many people were discrediting lebron for needing 6 games to beat them.
The opinions of LeHaters are never taken seriously. Lakers were a great team in 2020 and deserved the title. LeBron deserved FMVP and his damn respect.
https://cdn.nba.com/manage/2020/10/lebron-davis-postgame-cigar-trophies.jpg?w=1470&h=826
Full Court
04-25-2023, 09:08 PM
Biggest asterisk in the history of the sport. But you already knew that.
kawhileonard2
04-25-2023, 09:38 PM
Biggest asterisk in the history of the sport. But you already knew that.
This. No fans either
John8204
04-25-2023, 10:25 PM
Do repeated strong post season performances by Butler and the Heat enhance people's view of the quality of the Lakers 2020 championship?
At the time, many people were discrediting lebron for needing 6 games to beat them.
I haven't really seen much of a compelling argument as to why the bubble ring sucked. Fact of the matter is The Lakers beat the two-time MVP Denver, Harden/Westbrook Rockets, top 75 of all-time Dame's Blazers and a Heat team that has now made multiple runs.
Raptors and Bucks titles were won due to injuries, Warriors are a dynasty so you could make the case the bubble ring was the best championship of the last 5 years.
AussieSteve
04-25-2023, 10:37 PM
Biggest asterisk in the history of the sport. But you already knew that.
A strong argument could be made that the opposite is true IMO. It was the most level-playing-field, pure basketball playoffs ever.
No crowds. No home court advantages. No travel. No injuries. Just basketball.
And they beat some all-time players, who will inevitably be 1st ballot HoFers, in the run too.
warriorfan
04-25-2023, 10:48 PM
bran stans melting down hella hard already
:roll: :roll:
:djparty
AussieSteve
04-25-2023, 10:55 PM
bran stans melting down hella hard already
:roll: :roll:
:djparty
What are they melting down about?
kawhileonard2
04-25-2023, 10:56 PM
Nothing is legit without fans around.
FKAri
04-25-2023, 10:59 PM
Injured Bam and they still needed 6. That's the critique. Everything else is just noise.
Nothing is legit without fans around.
^ Like this guy who'll never live down that Kawhi and the Clippers had a monumental collapse. He has to twist his mind into knots just so he can sleep at night without therapy.
kawhileonard2
04-25-2023, 11:09 PM
Injured Bam and they still needed 6. That's the critique. Everything else is just noise.
^ Like this guy who'll never live down that Kawhi and the Clippers had a monumental collapse. He has to twist his mind into knots just so he can sleep at night without therapy.
Naw, Kawhi was only one who beat Warriors with KD and was up on the so called greatest top 3 team all time in game 1 without HCA by 20+ before the injury.
Spurs m8
04-26-2023, 12:04 AM
No one respects an exhibition scrimmage award where a large % of the players didn't give a fvck and there was no fans
^ Like this guy who'll never live down that Kawhi and the Clippers had a monumental collapse. He has to twist his mind into knots just so he can sleep at night without therapy.
:oldlol:
1987_Lakers
04-26-2023, 12:09 AM
Naw, Kawhi was only one who beat Warriors with KD and was up on the so called greatest top 3 team all time in game 1 without HCA by 20+ before the injury.
Scottie Pippen & Tony Parker have more playoff points than Kawhi.
1987_Lakers
04-26-2023, 12:10 AM
No one respects an exhibition scrimmage award where a large % of the players didn't give a fvck and there was no fans
Says the guy who was up at 3am making threads about LeBron after they won it in 2020.
Lakers Legend#32
04-26-2023, 12:38 AM
Played virtually an entire NBA regular season schedule.
Played a full round of playoffs.
Bow Down to the 2020 Champs.
StrongLurk
04-26-2023, 09:22 AM
It's always been a great ring...consider that the Lakers/Lebron not only dealt with Kobe's death/covid shutting down the world in 2020...the Lakers/Lebron also lost their homecourt advantage.
It was a massive ring that overcame unprecedented obstacles, but the Lebron haters just want to downplay it every chance they get. If anyone else won the bubble ring besides Lebron, then the Lebron haters would talk favorably about it.
SouBeachTalents
04-26-2023, 09:39 AM
It's always been a great ring...consider that the Lakers/Lebron not only dealt with Kobe's death/covid shutting down the world in 2020...the Lakers/Lebron also lost their homecourt advantage.
It was a massive ring that overcame unprecedented obstacles, but the Lebron haters just want to downplay it every chance they get. If anyone else won the bubble ring besides Lebron, then the Lebron haters would talk favorably about it.
If the Clippers beat the Lakers in the bubble and Kawhi won his 3rd FMVP they'd be hyping the shit out of it :lol
BigShotBob
04-26-2023, 09:50 AM
It's always been a great ring...consider that the Lakers/Lebron not only dealt with Kobe's death/covid shutting down the world in 2020...the Lakers/Lebron also lost their homecourt advantage.
It was a massive ring that overcame unprecedented obstacles, but the Lebron haters just want to downplay it every chance they get. If anyone else won the bubble ring besides Lebron, then the Lebron haters would talk favorably about it.
Heat lost two of their starters in the Finals
StrongLurk
04-26-2023, 09:51 AM
Heat lost two of their starters in the Finals
Lebron hater example from BSB...completely expected.
LeGoat4Life
04-26-2023, 11:07 AM
Mickey Mouse ring
We all know Lebrons chokes when fans are present :lol
ArbitraryWater
04-26-2023, 11:53 AM
Heat lost two of their starters in the Finals
nope, only one.
TheMan
04-26-2023, 01:28 PM
The opinions of LeHaters are never taken seriously. Lakers were a great team in 2020 and deserved the title. LeBron deserved FMVP and his damn respect.
https://cdn.nba.com/manage/2020/10/lebron-davis-postgame-cigar-trophies.jpg?w=1470&h=826
Ah yes, the 2020 NBA title AKA the Mickey Mouse ring :bowdown:
ImKobe
04-26-2023, 01:45 PM
It's always been a great ring...consider that the Lakers/Lebron not only dealt with Kobe's death/covid shutting down the world in 2020...the Lakers/Lebron also lost their homecourt advantage.
It was a massive ring that overcame unprecedented obstacles, but the Lebron haters just want to downplay it every chance they get. If anyone else won the bubble ring besides Lebron, then the Lebron haters would talk favorably about it.
They got 5 months of rest and played injured teams in the POs. It's a ring but an asterisk one like we've always said. We had a thread on this before the bubble saying it would be an asterisk no matter who won it.
Ah yes, the 2020 NBA title AKA the Mickey Mouse ring :bowdown:
Cousins could have also played during that time but he was waived because he was dealing with injuries if i'm not mistaken. :lebronamazed:
Lakers Legend#32
04-26-2023, 03:19 PM
They played virtually and entire NBA season.
This is not like the Dodgers 2020 title* where they only played a 60 game season.
That title is not legitimate.
StrongLurk
04-26-2023, 03:43 PM
They got 5 months of rest and played injured teams in the POs. It's a ring but an asterisk one like we've always said. We had a thread on this before the bubble saying it would be an asterisk no matter who won it.
Everyone got 5 months of rest and played injured teams in the playoffs...Lakers still came out on top. If it was so easy, why did Kawhi/PG and the Clips blow a 3-1 lead? Why did Giannis get shut down?
By the way, what players were injured against the Lakers? I seem to recall Lillard, Harden, Jokic/Murray, Jimmy B all healthy and playing...
BallsOut
04-26-2023, 04:01 PM
Weak.
The 2020 NBA Playoffs was like playing in a scrimmage game during practice. No fans means no pressure. Some players thrive under that environment.
Some crumble under the spotlight of thousands of fans in an arena, under the heckling of the front row, and playing games in a different state and arena all builds into that pressure.
LeBron doesn’t do well under actual pressure. If anything the bubble was the best thing that could ever happen for him.
dankok8
04-26-2023, 04:07 PM
It was a weak run but it has nothing to do with Covid or the bubble or whatever because all teams went played under the same conditions. Maybe an older team like the Lakers benefited more from the extended break but whatever and that wouldn't be a very good reason to penalize them. It was a weak run because they didn't face a single team that was top 6 in SRS or top 10 in DRtg and the opponents had lots of injuries. Lillard was injured for Portland in Round 1 and then Bam/Dragic injured for Miami in the Finals.
ImKobe
04-26-2023, 04:33 PM
Everyone got 5 months of rest and played injured teams in the playoffs...Lakers still came out on top. If it was so easy, why did Kawhi/PG and the Clips blow a 3-1 lead? Why did Giannis get shut down?
By the way, what players were injured against the Lakers? I seem to recall Lillard, Harden, Jokic/Murray, Jimmy B all healthy and playing...
Lillard had a hand & knee injury in the 1st round, Nurkic was out for 15 months before returning in the bubble
Westbrook had a quad injury and didn't return before the end of the 1st round, also had COVID, wasn't healthy before mid-way next season, Danuel House got suspended for banging a worker or w.e in the bubble
Bam & Dragic both got injured in the Finals
dankok8
04-26-2023, 05:10 PM
Lillard had a hand & knee injury in the 1st round, Nurkic was out for 15 months before returning in the bubble
Westbrook had a quad injury and didn't return before the end of the 1st round, also had COVID, wasn't healthy before mid-way next season, Danuel House got suspended for banging a worker or w.e in the bubble
Bam & Dragic both got injured in the Finals
Oh damn I totally didn't even recall Westbrook's injury. He averaged 27/8/7 on 53.6 %TS in the regular season then got injured and came back in Game 5 of Round 1 and proceeded to average 18/7/5 on 46.4 %TS in the playoffs. He was a shell of his regular season self.
StrongLurk
04-26-2023, 06:09 PM
Lillard had a hand & knee injury in the 1st round, Nurkic was out for 15 months before returning in the bubble
Westbrook had a quad injury and didn't return before the end of the 1st round, also had COVID, wasn't healthy before mid-way next season, Danuel House got suspended for banging a worker or w.e in the bubble
Bam & Dragic both got injured in the Finals
Wow, mentioning Danuel House and Nurkic...man you must not count any championship ring if THESE are the injuries you are talking about.
Lilliard played in 4 out of the 5 playoff games, Westbrook played 3 playoff games before the Lakers series and then all the games in the Lakers series. Bam played 4 out of 6 games in the finals. I'll give you Dragic getting hurt...but you really talking about Goran Dragic? The Heat were a DEEP team anyways, not top heavy.
And you are supposed to be a Lakers fan? Man the 2020 ring with Lebron hoisting the FMVP after Kobe's death must have had you tilted for months.
FKAri
04-26-2023, 06:14 PM
Everyone got 5 months of rest and played injured teams in the playoffs...Lakers still came out on top. If it was so easy, why did Kawhi/PG and the Clips blow a 3-1 lead? Why did Giannis get shut down?
By the way, what players were injured against the Lakers? I seem to recall Lillard, Harden, Jokic/Murray, Jimmy B all healthy and playing...
The Heat injuries were significant and it still took the Lakers 6 games. I don't see how you can dismiss that. Agreed on everything else.
ImKobe
04-26-2023, 07:46 PM
Wow, mentioning Danuel House and Nurkic...man you must not count any championship ring if THESE are the injuries you are talking about.
Lilliard played in 4 out of the 5 playoff games, Westbrook played 3 playoff games before the Lakers series and then all the games in the Lakers series. Bam played 4 out of 6 games in the finals. I'll give you Dragic getting hurt...but you really talking about Goran Dragic? The Heat were a DEEP team anyways, not top heavy.
And you are supposed to be a Lakers fan? Man the 2020 ring with Lebron hoisting the FMVP after Kobe's death must have had you tilted for months.
I'm just giving you the facts lol. No need to get mad about it. Laker fans did not see them win the championship live. There was no championship parade. They won a title but it's just not the same.
SATAN
04-26-2023, 07:55 PM
Cousins could have also played during that time but he was waived because he was dealing with injuries if i'm not mistaken. :lebronamazed:
LMAOOOO
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/image.php?u=160288&dateline=1456794266
ArbitraryWater
04-26-2023, 08:41 PM
The Heat injuries were significant and it still took the Lakers 6 games. I don't see how you can dismiss that. Agreed on everything else.
significant? Bam was out 2 games, they won one of them. I woudnt say Dragic injury is "significant".
bladefd
04-26-2023, 08:58 PM
Wow, mentioning Danuel House and Nurkic...man you must not count any championship ring if THESE are the injuries you are talking about.
Lilliard played in 4 out of the 5 playoff games, Westbrook played 3 playoff games before the Lakers series and then all the games in the Lakers series. Bam played 4 out of 6 games in the finals. I'll give you Dragic getting hurt...but you really talking about Goran Dragic? The Heat were a DEEP team anyways, not top heavy.
And you are supposed to be a Lakers fan? Man the 2020 ring with Lebron hoisting the FMVP after Kobe's death must have had you tilted for months.
He is not.
kawhileonard2
04-26-2023, 10:07 PM
Weak.
The 2020 NBA Playoffs was like playing in a scrimmage game during practice. No fans means no pressure. Some players thrive under that environment.
Some crumble under the spotlight of thousands of fans in an arena, under the heckling of the front row, and playing games in a different state and arena all builds into that pressure.
LeBron doesn’t do well under actual pressure. If anything the bubble was the best thing that could ever happen for him.
This.
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