Giannis, Embiid, Leonard, Morant, George, Butler, Randle, and Herro so far.

[Kblaze8855]

How many more people can miss games this playoffs before the asterisk crew attempts to attach it to whoever comes out of the yearly playoff injury randomizer in one piece?

Or are we just accepting that injury(or a lack of it) will always be one of if not the biggest reason anyone wins and let it go? Kinda just…feels like the world we have now that teams take such good care of players they don’t mind ruining the regular season to preserve them….

[1987_Lakers]

Are you gonna fight highwhey?

[BallsOut]

You forgot

Butler
Fox
Morant
Adams
Payne

[Kblaze8855]

Are you gonna fight highwhey?


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[Hey Yo]

Are you gonna fight highwhey?

:oldlol:

[Manny98]

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[Im Still Ballin]

I've heard a theory that it's the lack of practices and load management leading to subpar conditioning. An explanation for the increase in injuries, that is. There was that article several years back regarding increased injuries in youth basketball. Said the opposite essentially - for youth players of course.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Is it me or do the amount of injuries increase every year? Its becoming worse imo. You want to see best vs best at their 100%, usually most people have little injuries but no one wants to see series with superstars at the bench.

[bison]

Is it me or do the amount of injuries increase every year? Its becoming worse imo. You want to see best vs best at their 100%, usually most people have little injuries but no one wants to see series with superstars at the bench.

Really would love to see some kind of statistic on cumulative games missed by players over the last 40 years (adjusted for usage). A lot of people agree it *feels* like injuries have gotten worse over the last 7-8 seasons. But I do wonder if it’s a case that we just look at the past with rose colored glasses and the reality is there have always been injuries, particularly to star players.

[tpols]

Kawhi is the only notable superstar injury to occur since the playoffs started... which isnt unexpected.

Giannis, Embiid, And Ja have all played and mostly embarrassed themselves so there's no excuses there.

The Celtics, Lakers, Warriors, Nuggets, and Suns are all still healthy and the true top contenders as we've all known it.

[Real Men Wear Green]

The trolls that talk asterisk will be entirely about who wins the championship. Like every other "asterisk."

[Kblaze8855]

Kawhi is the only notable superstar injury to occur since the playoffs started... which isnt unexpected.

Giannis, Embiid, And Ja have all played and mostly embarrassed themselves so there's no excuses there.

The Celtics, Lakers, Warriors, Nuggets, and Suns are all still healthy and the true top contenders as we've all known it.


It’s 5 hall of famers, an all star, and a 6th man of the year missing games. 4 of them multiple. 3 of them finals or full season mvps. And we are 1 game into the second round. All are “notable”.

[Kblaze8855]

The trolls that talk asterisk will be entirely about who wins the championship. Like every other "asterisk."


Well naturally. Nobody cares who was missing when the team that fits their agenda wins. I hope nobody stubs a toe in the laker/warriors series. We will never hear the end of it either way.

[fourkicks44]

I've heard a theory that it's the lack of practices and load management leading to subpar conditioning. An explanation for the increase in injuries, that is. There was that article several years back regarding increased injuries in youth basketball. Said the opposite essentially - for youth players of course.

Everybody laughs at those players that had blue collar jobs when they were not playing basketball.

The plumbers, mechanics, steel workers, removalists. Real men. Hard ass men. Fit, strong, hard working.

Players today sit around all day playing fortnite against children and making tik tok dances.

Go figure.

[ArbitraryWater]

Butler, Oladipo, Kennard..

[NBAGOAT]

more miles run per game lead to more leg injuries but every year is going be different for freak stuff like giannis' back. Most stats shown players are covering more distance year by year. 34 guys covered 2.5 miles/game or more this year it was 15 in in 2014. Those guys are playing less minutes per game too. https://www.nba.com/stats/players/speed-distance?Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=AVG_SPEED

[tpols]

It’s 5 hall of famers, an all star, and a 6th man of the year missing games. 4 of them multiple. 3 of them finals or full season mvps. And we are 1 game into the second round. All are “notable”.

Outside of Kawhi, the only superstars who missed a bit of time had their teams literally win without them.

The bucks put up 138 points in a win without Giannis... literally the only win they had in the series. Probably why you went Casper. (conveniently) And the Grizzlies had their only definitive win with Ja out.

Doesn't mean either team is better without their star. But it does mean they were getting whooped regardless.

Listing nobodies like Herro basically just further diminishes the point in the OP.

[Kblaze8855]

Casper? I was on a 3 week trip across the country. And still posting regardless. Why would I care about one win without a teams best player? The warriors beat the blazers twice with no Steph. The mavs last year won back to back without Luka. Am I supposed to take something from that? That injured good teams can win a game?

It’s 6 all stars, 5 of them future hall of famers and a good player. Missing players like Derek Anderson, Andrew Bogut, and Kendrick Perkins used to get mentioned often here as reasons teams lost.

Now we are so used to missing stars we act like a group that would literally be as good as many all nba first teams being out is nothing to acknowledge. This is about like if Duncan, KG, Tmac, Iverson, Paul Pierce, Antione Walker, and Bobby Jackson all had injuries at the same time in the playoffs in like 2002.

There is no way the asterisk brigade won’t be out at this rate. It will be stupid…but it always is.

[ArbitraryWater]

Outside of Kawhi, the only superstars who missed a bit of time had their teams literally win without them.

The bucks put up 138 points in a win without Giannis... literally the only win they had in the series. Probably why you went Casper. (conveniently) And the Grizzlies had their only definitive win with Ja out.

Doesn't mean either team is better without their star. But it does mean they were getting whooped regardless.

Listing nobodies like Herro basically just further diminishes the point in the OP.


he was the heats #1 option / shot taker this season lol

[tpols]

More evidence.

Sixers win in the Garden on the road without Embiid....

[Kblaze8855]

Evidence of what? Players as wide ranging as Kareem, Dirk, Steph, Luka, Reggie miller, Embiid, Giannis, and Leonard have all been on the bench while their team won games without them in the playoffs. At least 5 of those had their teams win multiple games without them in the same series. Elite all time legends. Mid tier guys. Borderline. It isn’t even unusual. Being able to win a game without your best player means absolutely nothing when you obviously can’t win anything that matters.

Just makes for a lame ass playoffs relatively speaking. I don’t know what can be done but all the resting clearly hasn’t done it.

[ArbitraryWater]

More evidence.

Sixers win in the Garden on the road without Embiid....


people rebuke your points all the time and you say "just more evidence" lol

youre so phony

[tpols]

If Embiid doesn't come back I'd agree to an extent, but giannis and ja both played in every loss their team took.

You're being dishonest acting like these guys all got knocked out of their respective series in the little list you provided Kawhi is the only to have had it happen.

After last night, the Celtics, Lakers, Warriors, and Nuggets are the only true contenders and they're all healthy. Maybe suns too but their lack of depth and chemistry has exposed them.

[Kblaze8855]

At this point you’re just being dishonest pretending such things don’t matter or that you yourself have not complained about times stars missed time(or even played hurt) during series so I’m gonna go on and assume you’re just in one of your arguing moods and ignore you. No normal person needs it explained why a half dozen stars 3 of them among the greatest players of all time missing games ruins the playoffs.

[tpols]

Ignore what you want. Giannis, Embiid and Ja have all played so your list doesn't make sense.

All the healthy contenders are still physically sound.

[Kblaze8855]

Added Jimmy. That’s 6 hall of famers missing playoff games by game 2 of the second round.

If that isn’t a record I’d be surprised. I’m gonna have to do the legwork on that soon.

[Kblaze8855]

Just looking in 10 year intervals….

17 missed games by hall of famers and all stars already in 2023.


1993….2. One each by Drexler and Kevin Johnson to this point.

2003…3. 2 by Jamal Mashburn and 1 by Baron in the same series. Later in the playoffs Dirk missed 3 games. The full playoff count might be 6 games vs 17 already this year.

2013 is 10. Wade, Blake, Kobe, and Westbrook combined. Bosh would go down later.


The softening begins about where one would expect. Some major injuries will no doubt throw it off. I’ll be bored tomorrow and find what year was the worst before this one.

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron, Davis