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ArbitraryWater
05-03-2023, 05:42 PM
Curry, Klay and Poole were hitting some bullshit, and they lost. And were down 10 for a lot of the 2nd half.



Only way this comes back in their favor, is if LeBron will be too fatiqued by the every-second-day schedule.

SouBeachTalents
05-03-2023, 05:50 PM
Curry really didn't have THAT great of a game last night, at least for his standards. And after a blistering start, Klay really cooled down the rest of the way, he only shot 9/25 last night. Poole definitely had a performance he likely won't replicate again though :lol

But on the flipside, I don't see AD having 30/20 games on the regular, and they needed every bit of that to squeeze out a win last night. Imo, it's very early to try to claim the Warriors are fcked, there's a whole lot of series left, and while the Kings are certainly not the Lakers, I'm sure a lot of people were writing them off when they were down 2-0 last round and without Dray for Game 3.

ArbitraryWater
05-03-2023, 05:56 PM
Those splits that Klay had, still look better than what he will shoot, given the bullshit he was hitting imo.

And Curry as well, the range of some of those shots... ike most of his 3s were several feet behind the line. that isnt normal. he didnt get a single open look at the 3pt line iirc.


The Warriors hit FIFTEEN more 3s and lost.

How many more 3s do they need to hit to win? Lakers can do what they did last night again.

AD might not get 30/20 but he can do 23/15 any time, Bron does a bit more, Rui plays more than 11 mins...

tontoz
05-03-2023, 05:59 PM
They played an intense game 7 on Sunday while the Lakers were chillin. Lakers had a huge advantage in game 1 that they won't have the rest of the series.

Remember that they were down 0-2 to the Kings and won games 5 and 7 on the road. They might lose the series against the Lakers but saying the 4 time champs are toast now is nuts.

ArbitraryWater
05-03-2023, 06:00 PM
They played an intense game 7 on Sunday while the Lakers were chillin. Lakers had a huge advantage in game 1 that they won't have the rest of the series.

Remember that they were down 0-2 to the Kings and won games 5 and 7 on the road. They might lose the series against the Lakers but saying the 4 time champs are toast now is nuts.


forget all that,

the warriors had 3 guys make 6 or more threes... how often has that happened throughout NBA history?

and they still lost. i think this was a good effort for them.

tontoz
05-03-2023, 06:04 PM
forget all that,

the warriors had 3 guys make 6 or more threes... how often has that happened throughout NBA history?

and they still lost. i think this was a good effort for them.


As a team they shot 39.6% from 3. That is 1.5% over their average.

*yawn*

ArbitraryWater
05-03-2023, 06:10 PM
As a team they shot 39.6% from 3. That is 1.5% over their average.

*yawn*


1.5% above the average, with far more attempts than their average, against stifer defense than the regular season, sounds pretty good to me.

the ony one i saw brick open 3s was wiggins.

everyone else id wage would hit less 3s in the coming games.

Akeem34TheDream
05-03-2023, 06:15 PM
All that "he won't do that again" math is stupid. If you want to talk about defensive adjustments and strategies then do it but this karma? stuff is really a weird topic. X might make 2 less shots and Y 2 more, it evens out. Since its a team game, individual stats of superstars don't tell the whole game. This is pretty obvious but you ignore it i guess.

tontoz
05-03-2023, 06:16 PM
1.5% above the average, with far more attempts than their average, against stifer defense than the regular season, sounds pretty good to me.

the ony one i saw brick open 3s was wiggins.

everyone else id wage would hit less 3s in the coming games.



You must not have watched the warriors very often :oldlol:

They attempted a lot of 3s because the Lakers play drop coverage a lot. If they come off a screen and the big doesn't show they are launching. Pretty simple.

They take contested 3s all the time. They aren't waiting on wide open looks.

RRR3
05-03-2023, 06:16 PM
How have you not learned not to gloat before a series has ended yet? God you’re so dumb

NBAGOAT
05-03-2023, 06:20 PM
forget all that,

the warriors had 3 guys make 6 or more threes... how often has that happened throughout NBA history?

and they still lost. i think this was a good effort for them.

Rarely maybe never. It’s not surprising the warriors broke that record they’re the team everyone expects to do it. It’s not hard to replicate as long as Poole is good

ArbitraryWater
05-03-2023, 06:25 PM
You must not have watched the warriors very often :oldlol:

They attempted a lot of 3s because the Lakers play drop coverage a lot. If they come off a screen and the big doesn't show they are launching. Pretty simple.

They take contested 3s all the time. They aren't waiting on wide open looks.

They definitely took far more bullshit 3s yesterday than they usually do.

Which would be easy to assume just by the solid increase in 3s taken.

ArbitraryWater
05-03-2023, 06:26 PM
How have you not learned not to gloat before a series has ended yet? God you’re so dumb

how? how what? What series are you refering to?

Im the one that gets things right dummie, did you forget? :lol

tontoz
05-03-2023, 06:29 PM
They definitely took far more bullshit 3s yesterday than they usually do.

Which would be easy to assume just by the solid increase in 3s taken.


If AD is going to camp out in the lane all game GS is going to take a lot of 3s. Duh

red1
05-03-2023, 06:30 PM
two words.


anthony davis.

ArbitraryWater
05-03-2023, 06:31 PM
If AD is going to camp out in the lane all game GS is going to take a lot of 3s. Duh

thats what centers do, stupid.

Wardell Curry
05-03-2023, 06:34 PM
How have you not learned not to gloat before a series has ended yet? God you’re so dumb

Trueing. Plus it's a mere ONE game.

Even that aside, it's also helpful to remember that any team is always just one injury away from a completely reversing series trend.

People who proclaim to be prophets are always proven wrong. Do not speak upon the future with certainty.

tontoz
05-03-2023, 06:39 PM
thats what centers do, stupid.

Not against Steph and Klay :oldlol:

Wally450
05-03-2023, 06:45 PM
Still think this series goes 7.

tontoz
05-03-2023, 06:45 PM
I am watching the game right now and Van gundy is talking about the Lakers defense at the end of the first quarter. He is saying they hang back on the screens which different from the Kings who would come out on the screens.

ArbitraryWater
05-03-2023, 06:47 PM
Not against Steph and Klay :oldlol:

and loney is where in that case, exactly?

have you noticed that hes near the rim to crash the boards?

but the defending center shoudnt be in the lane?

Buddy you cant be this dumb

tontoz
05-03-2023, 06:55 PM
and loney is where in that case, exactly?

have you noticed that hes near the rim to crash the boards?

but the defending center shoudnt be in the lane?

Buddy you cant be this dumb


AD is guarding either green or Looney.. If ADs man sets the screen do you think the Lakers game plan is for AD to stay in the lane?

:roll:

tontoz
05-03-2023, 07:10 PM
Watching the game apparently it is their game play for AD to stay in the lane against Poole.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/IMG_20230503_190457.jpg




Against Curry he does a soft show on this one, coming out but not far enough to contest Curry's shot. The result is a 3 in his grill.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/IMG_20230503_184219.jpg

tontoz
05-03-2023, 07:15 PM
Van gundy is literally skewering the Lakers 3 point defense, not just on pick and rolls. He literally says the Lakers are giving the GS too many looks from 3.

BarberSchool
05-03-2023, 07:22 PM
Series will depend on how frequently Warriors play zone, and how effective it is at lowering Davis paint percentages / forcing Davis into turnovers. Davis, naturally, and due to injury frequency, does not like getting up high to finish in congested space. He prefers transition to get airborne mostly. Dray/Looney/Bench have to physically punish Davis a few times from within a congested zone, and lakers have to brick plenty of threes, for Golden State to gain thre upper hand.

Steph pursuing boards really helped concerns over zone rebounding last game. i suspect Steph also pursued those boards to get more looks instead of poole bringing it upcourt for less efficient posessions.

tontoz
05-03-2023, 07:27 PM
Here is another example of the Lakers trash 3 pt defense. Poole dribbles towards Looney on the left side, Russell goes under the screen, AD hangs way back. The result is another open 3 for Poole. No wonder he made so many 3s.


https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/IMG_20230503_192301.jpg

Spurs m8
05-03-2023, 07:27 PM
What a simp op post

ArbitraryWater
05-03-2023, 07:28 PM
Against Curry he does a soft show on this one, coming out but not far enough to contest Curry's shot. The result is a 3 in his grill.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/IMG_20230503_184219.jpg


this isnt a normal 3. you dont take this shot.


ill give you the others though, there might be something to it.

tontoz
05-03-2023, 07:31 PM
this isnt a normal 3. you dont take this shot.


ill give you the others though, there might be something to it.


You are right I wouldn't take it :oldlol:

That is a routine shot for Curry. He will take that shot 10 times out of 10. AD didn't even leave his feet to contest it.

tontoz
05-03-2023, 07:36 PM
This is just awful :oldlol:


https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/IMG_20230503_193458.jpg

tontoz
05-03-2023, 07:41 PM
:facepalm

OP must have been wearing his Kurt rambis goggles watching the game to think the Lakers 3 pt defense was good

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/IMG_20230503_193838.jpg

NBAGOAT
05-03-2023, 07:42 PM
golden state just needs to run more pnrs with steph and poole and less offball stuff to exploit this defense. besides troy brown who stan was eviscerating, their guys were pretty good at staying with steph, klay. also i dont love looney vs lakers even though he played fine. too slow to guard ad and not as versatile as draymond on offense

ArbitraryWater
05-03-2023, 07:50 PM
:facepalm

OP must have been wearing his Kurt rambis goggles watching the game to think the Lakers 3 pt defense was good

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/IMG_20230503_193838.jpg


that was actually a tough shot though, kay was running and fading. picture doesnt do it justice.

tontoz
05-03-2023, 08:04 PM
You can't give Steph looks like this. Looney sets the screen and the man guarding him isn't in the same zip code

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/IMG_20230503_200220.jpg

BallsOut
05-03-2023, 09:28 PM
Curry, Klay and Poole were hitting some bullshit, and they lost. And were down 10 for a lot of the 2nd half.



Only way this comes back in their favor, is if LeBron will be too fatiqued by the every-second-day schedule.

:lebronamazed:

tpols
05-03-2023, 09:49 PM
but is this karma?


We'll see.

imdaman99
05-03-2023, 09:52 PM
AD is the defensive player of the playoffs so far. If the Lakers go on to win it, best believe he will garner serious consideration for that award next year (assuming he plays more than 60 games :lol which is a bad assumption :lol ) he's taken away the inside kinda how Deon would take away half the side of the field

SouBeachTalents
05-04-2023, 11:02 PM
Arby, you should've known better than this :lol You've been following the league for too long now to put so much emphasis on the opening game of a series.

Wally450
05-04-2023, 11:06 PM
Whoopsie

RRR3
05-04-2023, 11:07 PM
Arby, you should've known better than this :lol You've been following the league for too long now to put so much emphasis on the opening game of a series.
He doesn’t know better. He’s incredibly stupid.

bullettooth
05-04-2023, 11:17 PM
This thread really backfired tonight.

hold this L
05-04-2023, 11:20 PM
Lakers got what they needed either way, a win away and gives them advantage. Warriors desperately need that split 2-2 after they leave LA. Him thinking Steph and Klay were shooting BS shots on 55% and 47% is something else on the other hand. :lol

Goldrush25
05-04-2023, 11:27 PM
This thread really backfired tonight.

this was a must-win game for the Warriors. Actually, anything but a big Warriors win would've been a bad sign for them.

Close Warriors win = why are they struggling in a must-win situation?
I don't have to explain what a close Warriors loss or blowout Warriors loss would've meant.

An evenly-matched team should win game 2 comfortably after losing game 1 at home. Warriors still have to get a road win off of the Lakers.

kawhileonard2
05-04-2023, 11:40 PM
And Warriors have won a road game in like 19-20 straight series as well.

Stephonit
05-04-2023, 11:42 PM
And Warriors have won a road game in like 19-20 straight series as well.

28

bullettooth
05-04-2023, 11:45 PM
this was a must-win game for the Warriors

No it wasn't. It's game 2 LOL.

ArbitraryWater
05-05-2023, 04:31 AM
No it wasn't. It's game 2 LOL.

Teams that lose both opening home games win like 1% of the time, yes it was a must win.

ArbitraryWater
05-05-2023, 04:32 AM
Arby, you should've known better than this :lol You've been following the league for too long now to put so much emphasis on the opening game of a series.

Wtf are you talking about? :lol

Did I predict a sweep or something? lol

Axe
05-05-2023, 05:29 AM
Wtf are you talking about? :lol

Did I predict a sweep or something? lol
You should avoid having BSB backfire moments lol

tontoz
05-05-2023, 07:58 AM
Game 1 21 made 3s on 39.6% shooting.
Game 2 21 made 3s on 50% shooting.
Play drop coverage against the Warriors at your own risk.

Jasper
05-05-2023, 10:04 AM
i stated this earlier ... Wars will always have an issue .. because they don't have a legit Center.

If they acquired a 5 from Pistons , or someone that blocks out rebounds and scores on the weak side ... we would be talking title year for
the bay state team.

Until then ... Curry will have issues w/his team.

BallsOut
05-05-2023, 09:04 PM
Curry, Klay and Poole were hitting some bullshit, and they lost. And were down 10 for a lot of the 2nd half.



Only way this comes back in their favor, is if LeBron will be too fatiqued by the every-second-day schedule.

:lebronamazed:

ArbitraryWater
05-13-2023, 09:02 AM
And ****ed they were


:pimp:



Arby, you should've known better than this :lol You've been following the league for too long now to put so much emphasis on the opening game of a series.


Whoopsie


He doesn’t know better. He’s incredibly stupid.


This thread really backfired tonight.



:oldlol:


literally the goat of ish.

tontoz
05-13-2023, 09:48 AM
And ****ed they were


:pimp:












:oldlol:


literally the goat of ish.


Lol revisionist history. You said they were unlikely to repeat their 3 pt shooting performance in game 1. Then they turned around and shot even better in game 2. In game 3 the Lakers were forced to stop playing drop coverage.

So the whole premise of the thread was wrong.

ArbitraryWater
05-13-2023, 09:50 AM
Lol revisionist history. You said they were unlikely to repeat their 3 pt shooting performance in game 1. Then they turned around and shot even better in game 2. In game 3 the Lakers were forced to stop playing drop coverage.

So the whole premise of the thread was wrong.

What are you taking about? They shot like absoute shit the rest of the series compared to game 1 :oldlol:

Are you trying to get owned further? lol

tontoz
05-13-2023, 09:56 AM
What are you taking about? They shot like absoute shit the rest of the series compared to game 1 :oldlol:

Are you trying to get owned further? lol


The rest of the series? GS was 21-42 from 3 in game 2. :oldlol:They were getting lit up from 3 early in game 3 and finally had to stop playing drop coverage.


https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/IMG_20230507_094749.jpg

1987_Lakers
05-13-2023, 09:58 AM
The rest of the series? GS was 21-42 from 3 in game 2. :oldlol:They were getting lit up from 3 early in game 3 and finally had to stop playing drop coverage.

Don't know why the Lakers started the series with all the drop coverage crap. We saw Boston do that in the Finals against Curry and he lit them up, at least the Lakers were smart enough to adjust.

ArbitraryWater
05-13-2023, 10:00 AM
The rest of the series? GS was 21-42 from 3 in game 2. :oldlol:They were getting lit up from 3 early in game 3 and finally had to stop playing drop coverage.

How is game 2 = the rest of the series?

In Game 1 the Warriors shot 40% from 3. I said this was unlikely to happen over in the series ("they wont keep hitting these bs shots").

And it was, they reached the 40% mark only 1 more time in the next 5 games.

3 times, they didnt even hit 30% of their 3s.

And youre trying to say the premise of the thread was wrong?

Buddy, what the **** is going on inside your head? :oldlol: Youre one of the strangest posters Ive seen here.

tontoz
05-13-2023, 10:00 AM
Don't know why the Lakers started the series with all the drop coverage crap. We saw Boston do that in the Finals against Curry and he lit them up, at least the Lakers were smart enough to adjust.

Seriously OP was acting like their 3 pt shooting in game 1 was a fluke even though AD was camping out in the lane. :oldlol:

tontoz
05-13-2023, 10:02 AM
How is game 2 = the rest of the series?

In Game 1 the Warriors shot 40% from 3. I said this was unlikely to happen over in the series ("they wont keep hitting these bs shots").

And it was, they reached the 40% mark only 1 more time in the next 5 games.

3 times, they didnt even hit 30% of their 3s.

And youre trying to say the premise of the thread was wrong?

Buddy, what the **** is going on inside your head? :oldlol: Youre one of the strangest posters Ive seen here.


You do realize that the Lakers changed their defense, right? :oldlol:

GS won game 5 making only 13 3s.

tontoz
05-13-2023, 10:04 AM
1.5% above the average, with far more attempts than their average, against stifer defense than the regular season, sounds pretty good to me.

the ony one i saw brick open 3s was wiggins.

everyone else id wage would hit less 3s in the coming games.


:roll:




Stiffer defense

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/IMG_20230507_094749.jpg

ArbitraryWater
05-13-2023, 10:04 AM
You do realize that the Lakers changed their defense, right? :oldlol:

GS won game 5 making only 13 3s.

and?

ArbitraryWater
05-13-2023, 10:04 AM
this dude spamming pics again from his ugly ass tv lol


man cant help himself

tontoz
05-13-2023, 10:07 AM
and?



And what? The Lakers changed their defense not stop GS from getting so many open 3s. Duh

If they continued playing drop coverage they would have kept getting lit up.

ArbitraryWater
05-13-2023, 10:08 AM
And what? The Lakers changed their defense not stop GS from getting so many open 3s. Duh

If they continued playing drop coverage they would have kept getting lit up.

so I was right that they wouldnt convert as many 3s or nah?

tontoz
05-13-2023, 10:11 AM
so I was right that they wouldnt convert as many 3s or nah?


:oldlol:

You were right because the Lakers had the sense to change their defense. Unlike you they realized that playing drop coverage wasn't going to work against the warriors, as I pointed out after watching game 1.

ArbitraryWater
05-13-2023, 10:13 AM
:oldlol:

You were right because the Lakers had the sense to change their defense. Unlike you they realized that playing drop coverage wasn't going to work against the warriors, as I pointed out after watching game 1.

they stopped playing drop coverage in the middle of game 3? :lol


cause after games 1-2 they were like lets see how it works this time? :lol

tontoz
05-13-2023, 10:17 AM
they stopped playing drop coverage in the middle of game 3? :lol


cause after games 1-2 they were like lets see how it works this time? :lol


That is exactly what happened. The announcers were even talking about it during the game. Did you have the game muted when you watched it? :oldlol:

They literally said you can't play drop coverage against the warriors. Once GS went up double digits they finally stopped. No idea why it took them so long but that's what happened. Maybe AD was just slow to get the memo.

ArbitraryWater
05-13-2023, 10:21 AM
That is exactly what happened. The announcers were even talking about it during the game. Did you have the game muted when you watched it? :oldlol:

They literally said you can't play drop coverage against the warriors. Once GS went up double digits they finally stopped. No idea why it took them so long but that's what happened. Maybe AD was just slow to get the memo.

damn, coach Ham said them midway through the first this isnt working, stop it fellas? Or maybe it was never about playing drop coverage entirely, but it was an energy thing for AD?

tontoz
05-13-2023, 10:26 AM
damn, coach Ham said them midway through the first this isnt working, stop it fellas? Or maybe it was never about playing drop coverage entirely, but it was an energy thing for AD?


I have no idea about the cause. I just know what actually happened. Maybe Ham was telling AD to show all along. I am not in the huddle so I have no idea.

I just know that they stopped playing drop. Then both teams went back and forth with adjustments. No idea what the adjustments were last night.

warriorfan
05-13-2023, 01:13 PM
That is exactly what happened. The announcers were even talking about it during the game. Did you have the game muted when you watched it? :oldlol:

They literally said you can't play drop coverage against the warriors. Once GS went up double digits they finally stopped. No idea why it took them so long but that's what happened. Maybe AD was just slow to get the memo.

:roll:


If he lives in europe the games are on at 3 to 5 in the morning. Unless he has a league pass with a DVR….Safe to say he isn’t watching a lot of it :lol