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Patrick Chewing
05-05-2023, 10:27 AM
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bud-light-sales-plunged-astonishing-224500212.html
The brand’s controversial marketing collaboration, which ignited fierce reaction on social media, has apparently led to a dip in Bud Light store sales by an astonishing 26% in the week ending April 22, according to research by industry newsletter Beer Business Daily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzGnupeXnT4
Down 26% bro. Do you still think this was a "brilliant marketing strategy" as you previously stated?? :lol
Off the Court
05-05-2023, 10:51 AM
Yes you made the same comments about the NFL dipping in ratings after all the kneeling but now the NFL is at all time highs. It's like the kneeling never happened. And this incident will be forgotten even faster than that, probably by next month. And in the mean time we've all firmly implanted "bud light" into our brains.
Thanks for making this thread for me to bump next year while laughing at you.
Patrick Chewing
05-05-2023, 10:59 AM
Yes you made the same comments about the NFL dipping in ratings after all the kneeling but now the NFL is at all time highs. It's like the kneeling never happened. And this incident will be forgotten even faster than that, probably by next month. And in the mean time we've all firmly implanted "bud light" into our brains.
Thanks for making this thread for me to bump next year while laughing at you.
So you didn't answer the question. You deflected onto a different topic as you usually do. Do you still think this was a brilliant marketing strategy, yes or no? And if you think it is, explain how. Explain how being down 26% is considered a brilliant marketing strategy in your eyes.
Off the Court
05-05-2023, 11:03 AM
So you didn't answer the question. You deflected onto a different topic as you usually do. Do you still think this was a brilliant marketing strategy, yes or no? And if you think it is, explain how. Explain how being down 26% is considered a brilliant marketing strategy in your eyes.
The first thing I said was "yes" and then I explained it :facepalm
ArbitraryWater
05-05-2023, 11:07 AM
miss poopsie shoud get in here as we and expain it
Patrick Chewing
05-05-2023, 11:52 AM
The first thing I said was "yes" and then I explained it :facepalm
The NFL and Bud Light are two different things. There is no competition to the NFL. There is no other option to the NFL. There are a million beers someone else can drink. You still haven't provided concrete evidence as to what makes you think this was a brilliant marketing strategy for Anheuser-Busch. All you did was compare this to the NFL and that's not even an equal comparison.
What will bring people back to Bud Light? Explain that. Explain how losing 26% of market share revenue is a brilliant strategy in your eyes? You have not explained that and you cannot explain it. You are simply putting up a fight against the Bud Light backlash because you are a Leftist.
Patrick Chewing
05-05-2023, 11:53 AM
miss poopsie shoud get in here as we and expain it
:lol
Off the Court
05-05-2023, 12:12 PM
The NFL and Bud Light are two different things. There is no competition to the NFL. There is no other option to the NFL. There are a million beers someone else can drink. You still haven't provided concrete evidence as to what makes you think this was a brilliant marketing strategy for Anheuser-Busch. All you did was compare this to the NFL and that's not even an equal comparison.
What will bring people back to Bud Light? Explain that. Explain how losing 26% of market share revenue is a brilliant strategy in your eyes? You have not explained that and you cannot explain it. You are simply putting up a fight against the Bud Light backlash because you are a Leftist.
I did explain you just can't grasp it. This will be forgotten sooner than later and through it all has repeatedly hammered "Bud Light" into all of our heads.
"All publicity is good publicity"
"There is no such thing as bad publicity"
Remember when that one pedoish movie was going to be the end of Netflix? You forgot all about that and now you watch Netflix every night. It's forgotten, old news, just like this will be.
I mean are you literally under the belief that this is the end of Budweiser? :oldlol:
Patrick Chewing
05-05-2023, 12:21 PM
I did explain you just can't grasp it. This will be forgotten sooner than later and through it all has repeatedly hammered "Bud Light" into all of our heads.
"All publicity is good publicity"
"There is no such thing as bad publicity"
Remember when that one pedoish movie was going to be the end of Netflix? You forgot all about that and now you watch Netflix every night. It's forgotten, old news, just like this will be.
I mean are you literally under the belief that this is the end of Budweiser? :oldlol:
Putting words in my mouth and moving the goal posts as usual. Max, my warped ideology-totin' friend, there is a reason why Anheuser-Busch is backing away from this ad. There is a reason why they fired the woman responsible for that ad. No one is saying this is the end of Budweiser. You said that. No one is implying that. You may outsmart the others on this board with your smoke and mirrors deflection that Liberals do so well, but you will never fool me. There is no positive spin you can put on this, and especially not with the "all publicity is good publicity" excuse.
Will people forget about this in 10 years? Probably. But as sales go back up to previous levels in 10 years, you can't consider that a win. You have to focus on Sales today, Sales right now, not ten years from now. And right now sales are down 26% and there is no spin you can put on this to say that this was a brilliant marketing strategy. This was an EPIC failure of monumental proportions.
And Netflix is hemorrhaging viewers left and right. This was never about putting these companies out of business. No one has said that or implied that. Only you have brought that up. But you cannot say that Netflix is doing better since that movie was put out and you certainly cannot say Budweiser is doing better since that ad was put out. Just take the L and move on.
Off the Court
05-05-2023, 12:51 PM
And Netflix is hemorrhaging viewers left and right.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/250934/quarterly-number-of-netflix-streaming-subscribers-worldwide/
:facepalm
Another thing you are clearly overlooking here is that Bud Light is just one brand under Anheuser Busch.
Anheuser Busch didn't lose 26% of it's sales, Bud Light did which is just a fraction of their business.
In fact Anheuser Bush just reported earnings:
https://www.brewbound.com/news/anheuser-busch-inbev-q1-2023-global-revenue-13-2-us-shipments-1-6-depletions-3-ceo-discusses-bud-light-backlash/
Anheuser-Busch InBev (A-B) reported a +13.2% increase in total revenue and a +0.9% increase in total volume worldwide for the first quarter of 2023.
:roll:
What a thread backfire
Patrick Chewing
05-05-2023, 12:58 PM
And as is expected, Off the Court (aka Maxfly) will try to put a positive spin on things to suit his narrative. I am not overlooking Anheuser-Busch as I have mentioned them several times in this thread.
And if Anheuser-Busch is reporting a profit, well, that's great. But imagine their profits had they not come out with that ad? Do you see now what I'm talking about? Do you understand now what I'm saying? Just because they're still reporting a profit doesn't mean that ad wasn't one of the biggest mistakes a company has ever made. Your ego and pride are so immense that you can't even admit that ad was a failure despite the enormous losses they are reporting per that one brand alone. It's like you're denying reality. Why are you doing this?
BigKobeFan
05-05-2023, 01:21 PM
Going woke only works if you monopolize the industry like NFL and disney.
If there's competition, Woke doesn't work.
Lakers Legend#32
05-05-2023, 03:38 PM
This will be the entirety of the Republicans 2024 presidential campaign.
Long Duck Dong
05-05-2023, 03:48 PM
I did explain you just can't grasp it. This will be forgotten sooner than later and through it all has repeatedly hammered "Bud Light" into all of our heads.
"All publicity is good publicity"
"There is no such thing as bad publicity"
Remember when that one pedoish movie was going to be the end of Netflix? You forgot all about that and now you watch Netflix every night. It's forgotten, old news, just like this will be.
I mean are you literally under the belief that this is the end of Budweiser? :oldlol:
People will eventually forget about this and people will become more accepting of the trans community with time. Remember liberal California voters didn't want gay marriage in their state a mere 15 years ago(thanks to 55% of Latinos and 70+% of blacks voting against it).
Still it doesn't hurt to know your consumer base. You won't see Trader Joes, Whole Foods or anti frizz hair cream marketing to hillbillies and rednecks. Although I fully admit this is an extreme reaction by conservative/traditional people over a stupid can that wasn't even made for the public.
warriorfan
05-05-2023, 04:12 PM
Off the Cope
Patrick Chewing
05-05-2023, 04:19 PM
People will eventually forget about this and people will become more accepting of the trans community with time.
Highly doubt this. I think this is where people are starting to draw the line, especially women.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w46hC7CjDVQ
Off the Court
05-05-2023, 04:25 PM
People will eventually forget about this and people will become more accepting of the trans community with time. Remember liberal California voters didn't want gay marriage in their state a mere 15 years ago(thanks to 55% of Latinos and 70+% of blacks voting against it).
Still it doesn't hurt to know your consumer base. You won't see Trader Joes, Whole Foods or anti frizz hair cream marketing to hillbillies and rednecks. Although I fully admit this is an extreme reaction by conservative/traditional people over a stupid can that wasn't even made for the public.
This is a fair take although I do think that Bud Light's demographic is much larger than just hillbillies and rednecks. Today's young people are already there. Schools are significantly less homophobic than schools in Chewing's generation. Perspectives can change drastically in just 15 years time you're correct.
Off the Court
05-05-2023, 04:29 PM
Highly doubt this. I think this is where people are starting to draw the line, especially women.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w46hC7CjDVQ
She's just upset about bathroom situations, and I don't really fault her.
What's already starting to happen is that schools are starting to incorporate 3 bathrooms, one labeled "gender-neutral".
Patrick Chewing
05-05-2023, 05:20 PM
This is a fair take although I do think that Bud Light's demographic is much larger than just hillbillies and rednecks. Today's young people are already there. Schools are significantly less homophobic than schools in Chewing's generation. Perspectives can change drastically in just 15 years time you're correct.
We're both Millennials you dingbat. It has nothing to do with being homophobic. It has to do with not believing the lie that men can become women and vice versa. We don't want that agenda shoved in our faces either and then be labeled homophobic or transphobic when we don't agree with it. Homosexuality is as old and as common as time. But this trans shit of actually removing your genitalia is new and it's sick and perverse and it has now reached our children. So to sit back there and to say "oh people will get used to it".....yeah no ****ing way man. All that mutilation and wanting to be something you're not is a mental illness that's being disguised as healthcare. And Liberals like you just support that shit 100% and run with it, not realizing how wrong and immoral it truly is.
Patrick Chewing
05-05-2023, 05:26 PM
She's just upset about bathroom situations, and I don't really fault her.
What's already starting to happen is that schools are starting to incorporate 3 bathrooms, one labeled "gender-neutral".
No, watch the video again. She clearly states "why are we affirming the mental confusion of this boy...". So it's more than just a bathroom thing. She does clearly not accept the lie that men can become women because it then takes the attention away from real women's issues.
Patrick Chewing
05-05-2023, 05:35 PM
And the thing I can't fathom about Liberals is this "oh let people do what they want and be what they want" mentality as you all look the other way. That is not sustainable in a society. Taking all religious and spiritual beliefs aside, you need common sense, morality, certain boundaries, order, etc.
Off the Court
05-05-2023, 06:13 PM
And the thing I can't fathom about Liberals is this "oh let people do what they want and be what they want" mentality as you all look the other way. That is not sustainable in a society. Taking all religious and spiritual beliefs aside, you need common sense, morality, certain boundaries, order, etc.
They aren't going anywhere so it's pointless to let them trigger you every day. Venting about them on the internet day after day isn't going to make them suddenly disappear, nothing is. Trump can't make them disappear, nothing can. You're stuck with them.
It's fake outrage with you anyway, they aren't sharing a bathroom with you, in fact you've probably never even interacted with a trans individual outside of seeing one in a store somewhere. :oldlol:
Patrick Chewing
05-05-2023, 07:32 PM
They aren't going anywhere so it's pointless to let them trigger you every day. Venting about them on the internet day after day isn't going to make them suddenly disappear, nothing is. Trump can't make them disappear, nothing can. You're stuck with them.
It's fake outrage with you anyway, they aren't sharing a bathroom with you, in fact you've probably never even interacted with a trans individual outside of seeing one in a store somewhere. :oldlol:
Of course in typical Off the Court fashion he dismisses the issue by putting the emphasis on me rather than focusing on the real mental and physical damage this is causing people, especially our children.
And they will not go away so long as people like you encourage this behavior rather than acknowledge it for the mental health issue that it is.
Ten years ago people like you would dismiss us when we would point out the slippery slope we were going down on, and yet here we are with drag queen story hour, biological men beating biological women in sporting events, and doctors mutilating children.
Like, I wonder where someone like you draws the line. You strike me as the type to sit back and watch the world burn so long as it doesn't affect you cause you've used that excuse several times already towards me. You lack morals and common sense.
Lakers Legend#32
05-05-2023, 11:18 PM
We're both Millennials you dingbat.
Poospsie's too old to be a Millennial.
Poospsie's too old to be a Millennial.
And he's such a whiny snowflake as well.
Jasper
05-06-2023, 01:28 AM
Yes you made the same comments about the NFL dipping in ratings after all the kneeling but now the NFL is at all time highs. It's like the kneeling never happened. And this incident will be forgotten even faster than that, probably by next month. And in the mean time we've all firmly implanted "bud light" into our brains.
Thanks for making this thread for me to bump next year while laughing at you.
poopsie hasn't stated he will start drinking more Light to help compensate their current loses.
Jasper
05-06-2023, 01:30 AM
And the thing I can't fathom about Liberals is this "oh let people do what they want and be what they want" mentality as you all look the other way. That is not sustainable in a society. Taking all religious and spiritual beliefs aside, you need common sense, morality, certain boundaries, order, etc.
what is sustainable is the KKK and proud Boys you have joined.
Gruppenführer
05-06-2023, 10:18 AM
We're both Millennials you dingbat. It has nothing to do with being homophobic. It has to do with not believing the lie that men can become women and vice versa. We don't want that agenda shoved in our faces either and then be labeled homophobic or transphobic when we don't agree with it. Homosexuality is as old and as common as time. But this trans shit of actually removing your genitalia is new and it's sick and perverse and it has now reached our children. So to sit back there and to say "oh people will get used to it".....yeah no ****ing way man. All that mutilation and wanting to be something you're not is a mental illness that's being disguised as healthcare. And Liberals like you just support that shit 100% and run with it, not realizing how wrong and immoral it truly is.
Well said. It's crazy how many people support Transgenderism.
Jasper
05-06-2023, 10:23 AM
I will say , since it has become media meat , more people are coming out.
if you are offended with it , it usually means your brain needs more education or you yourself has sexual thoughts with them.
so what is it poopsie : u need more education or u have sexual arousals with them ?:confusedshrug:
Lakers Legend#32
05-06-2023, 01:07 PM
I will say , since it has become media meat , more people are coming out.
if you are offended with it , it usually means your brain needs more education or you yourself has sexual thoughts with them.
so what is it poopsie : u need more education or u have sexual arousals with them ?:confusedshrug:
Well we know what Poopsie thinks of more education, "Who cares about a college degree?"
Patrick Chewing
05-06-2023, 03:19 PM
Just as White Liberals like Off the Court like to speak for Black people, White Liberals like Off the Court also like to speak for people who identify as Trans. But they don't know what the hell they're talking about of course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DL_M20RBP8
SATAN
05-07-2023, 12:33 AM
45 year old couch potato raging about Liberals on the internet all weekend. :roll:
:facepalm
Patrick Chewing
05-07-2023, 01:37 AM
45 year old couch potato raging about Liberals on the internet all weekend. :roll:
:facepalm
Keep barking up the wrong tree, pendejo. You pick fights with people you cannot win against. That's why you were banned.
You can chase me around this board all you want, but the outcome will remain the same. You'll flip out like the weak **** that you are and you'll get banned again. So go ahead, make my day. Rage on and get banned again so I can laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh some more at your expense. :oldlol:
SATAN
05-07-2023, 01:50 AM
I didn't read that.
Slob.
Hey Yo
05-07-2023, 11:39 AM
Some gay bars in Chicago now no longer serve AB products due to AB trying to distance itself from the Dylan debacle.
https://www.outkick.com/chicago-gay-bars-bud-light-anheuser-busch-boycott/
Hey Yo
05-15-2023, 12:06 PM
AB now offering coupons to buy Bud Light.
https://www.outkick.com/bud-light-rebate-offer-tweet/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwDw-yJWYAAXpuv?format=jpg&name=small
Patrick Chewing
05-15-2023, 01:45 PM
"This is a brilliant marketing strategy" - Off the Court
:lol
AlternativeAcc.
05-15-2023, 02:04 PM
"This is a brilliant marketing strategy" - Off the Court
:lol
lol, that guy disappeared. Wrong about EVERYTHING. Left wing ideology is cancer and that dude was filled with it.
Off the Court
05-15-2023, 02:44 PM
Still in here and still in your head, reminding you once again that Anheuser-Busch just reported and earnings are up 13.6% from last year. :roll:
https://www.barrons.com/articles/bud-light-controversy-anheuser-busch-sales-earnings-stock-price-22b8854a
Righties have ironically become the new cancel culture :roll:
"Bud Light Bad!, Gay people BAD!"
Patrick Chewing
05-15-2023, 02:52 PM
Their earnings from one year to the next has nothing to do with them losing money right now after this debacle. You're trying to move the goal posts to try and save face.
Charlie Sheen
05-15-2023, 02:56 PM
Still in here and still in your head, reminding you once again that Anheuser-Busch just reported and earnings are up 13.6% from last year. :roll:
https://www.barrons.com/articles/bud-light-controversy-anheuser-busch-sales-earnings-stock-price-22b8854a
Righties have ironically become the new cancel culture :roll:
"Bud Light Bad!, Gay people BAD!"
I do not have a dog in this fight, but you might wanna read your links first... First Quarter earnings.
SATAN
05-15-2023, 09:21 PM
Righties have ironically become the new cancel culture :roll:
They have always been that way.
TheMan
05-18-2023, 01:05 PM
Bud Light's fall from grace is so bad it's affecting other beers from Anheuser-Busch :lol Budweiser down, Michelob Ultra down...brilliant strategy though lol
Off the Court
05-18-2023, 05:03 PM
Bud Light's fall from grace is so bad it's affecting other beers from Anheuser-Busch :lol Budweiser down, Michelob Ultra down...brilliant strategy though lol
They own so many labels, and on a global scale too, outside of US commercials. Bud Light being down 25% isn't going to put much of a dent in their earnings which were already trending up.
And then, no different than Netflix, it will all be forgotten and you'll be drinking a Bud Light at the next NBA game you attend. Hopefully I don't forget to bump this thread and laugh but I probably will.
warriorfan
05-18-2023, 05:06 PM
What a ****ing goof
:roll:
Patrick Chewing
05-18-2023, 09:38 PM
They own so many labels, and on a global scale too, outside of US commercials. Bud Light being down 25% isn't going to put much of a dent in their earnings which were already trending up.
And then, no different than Netflix, it will all be forgotten and you'll be drinking a Bud Light at the next NBA game you attend. Hopefully I don't forget to bump this thread and laugh but I probably will.
Why can't you just take the L and move on??
tomtucker
05-21-2023, 12:11 PM
Yes you made the same comments about the NFL dipping in ratings after all the kneeling but now the NFL is at all time highs. It's like the kneeling never happened. And this incident will be forgotten even faster than that, probably by next month. And in the mean time we've all firmly implanted "bud light" into our brains.
Thanks for making this thread for me to bump next year while laughing at you.
players change... the beer does not.
people will support their home teams.... and say what i said: the players now may not be same as did the kneeling (they are, but people will claim they are not to watch games)
the Beer.... no, that is associated with gayness now.
no man want it.
and even if what you say is true, that the beer sales come back.... what about the billions lost now?
that will never be made up for.
bud is gone.
tomtucker
05-21-2023, 12:24 PM
he is not gay you fagggot.... he is a trans, and women are the ones that hate him the most, because he makes fun of them, jumping around and giggling like a 6 year old. while pretending to be a woman.
Nike has taking a beating as well, many women do not buy their work out gear anymore.
But Nike has managed to keep it on the downlow, still easy to see they have been hit.
Nike reviews:
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.nike.com?search=women&sort=recency
tomtucker
05-21-2023, 12:39 PM
Rated 1 out of 5 stars
Apr 15, 2023
If I could give zero stars I would
If I could give zero stars I would
Never again will I spend money on Nike as a woman. To watch a flat chested man prance about wearing a sports bra in an embarrassing ( and quite frankly disgusting ) character of a woman was insulting.
So many prominent female athletes they could have given this opportunity to, instead they give it to man in womanface, who refers to female anatomy as "barbie pouches" and dresses like a 6 year old girl for fun.
And then, when women speak out and tell them how insulted we are, they tell us to be "kind" and "inclusive". Never again
Date of experience: April 14, 2023
Patrick Chewing
05-23-2023, 12:35 PM
Bud Light to buy back unsold beer following Dylan Mulvaney crisis: https://nypost.com/2023/05/22/bud-light-to-buy-back-unsold-beer-following-dylan-mulvaney-crisis/
"This is a brilliant marketing strategy" - Off The Court
:roll:
Off the Court
05-23-2023, 01:44 PM
Bud Light to buy back unsold beer following Dylan Mulvaney crisis: https://nypost.com/2023/05/22/bud-light-to-buy-back-unsold-beer-following-dylan-mulvaney-crisis/
"This is a brilliant marketing strategy" - Off The Court
:roll:
It says they will buy back after the beer has expired. When is that next year? I doubt it happens. And don't they do that anyway with expired beer?
Anyway, Chewing, if the next earnings report shows a loss for Anheuser-Busch year over year, I will own up and declare I was wrong. Because that is all that matters here. Until then I will die on this hill, or more appropriately I will live well on this hill. If AB is still growing as a company then you should declare you were wrong, although I do not think you are capable of that.
https://i.ibb.co/Fzknqt6/fatrick2.jpg
Patrick Chewing
05-30-2023, 02:53 PM
Anyway, Chewing, if the next earnings report shows a loss for Anheuser-Busch year over year, I will own up and declare I was wrong. Because that is all that matters here. Until then I will die on this hill, or more appropriately I will live well on this hill. If AB is still growing as a company then you should declare you were wrong, although I do not think you are capable of that.
You should start declaring you were wrong right now. Dead wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTIAyKevFMU
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2023, 10:54 AM
Bump.
Off the Court....care to revise your statement??
FKAri
06-13-2023, 02:03 PM
It's interesting to see someone going woke actually losing out for once. The go woke go broke phrase seems to be a wish more often than a reality.
j3lademaster
06-13-2023, 02:08 PM
It's interesting to see someone going woke actually losing out for once. The go woke go broke phrase seems to be a wish more often than a reality.Well, if you're bud light you need to realize what the majority of your demographic is.
Off the Court
06-13-2023, 04:57 PM
It's interesting to see someone going woke actually losing out for once. The go woke go broke phrase seems to be a wish more often than a reality.
I bet AB isn't losing out nearly as much as most like Chewing believe. They have so many products, BL is just one of them.
And if they are it will just be for one quarter and then they'll go right back to breaking records
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2023, 05:05 PM
I bet AB isn't losing out nearly as much as most like Chewing believe. They have so many products, BL is just one of them.
And if they are it will just be for one quarter and then they'll go right back to breaking records
Are you going to declare you were wrong? I'm waiting.
j3lademaster
06-13-2023, 05:18 PM
BUD stock seems to have pretty normal volatility in the past few months, peaking as high as $66 and as low as $53. Looks like they suffered much worse in 2022 and 2020.
Was the 'scandal' simply using a tran spokesperson? If so, I personally don't give a shit, but they should know their demographic and in that regard it was pretty bad marketing on their part. In terms of the market's faith in them hasn't changed though, people who are outraged by this should band together and Game Stop them. I'm always down to seea corporation get ****ed.
warriorfan
06-13-2023, 08:40 PM
I bet AB isn't losing out nearly as much as most like Chewing believe. They have so many products, BL is just one of them.
And if they are it will just be for one quarter and then they'll go right back to breaking records
nice goalpost shift
you are hella weird bro
:lol
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2023, 09:25 PM
nice goalpost shift
you are hella weird bro
:lol
This is typical Off the Court. He's mastered the Liberal craft of moving goal posts and deflection so that he never and I mean NEVER has to walk back a statement or admit he was wrong. That's psychotic narcissistic behavior.
1987_Lakers
06-13-2023, 09:34 PM
I don't understand why people are so shocked about sales drop of budlight, I for one don't care if you are gay/trans, but I'll be the first to admit that constantly seeing that type of shit in movies/shows/advertising is disgusting to me, and I'm sure most straight males feel the same, even if they don't want to admit it. And now they are teaching this shit in schools to little kids? What is the agenda here? It's all very weird to me.
Off the Court
06-14-2023, 01:10 AM
This is typical Off the Court. He's mastered the Liberal craft of moving goal posts and deflection so that he never and I mean NEVER has to walk back a statement or admit he was wrong. That's psychotic narcissistic behavior.
I said that if their earnings are negative next Q, which is when all this started, I would admit I was wrong. The goal posts have been the same from the start. Nothing has changed.
I might be wrong.
I might also be right. They were in the positive last Q and currently their stock is up vs 1 year ago. And if their earnings have increased, we'll see who is moving goal posts then.
Patrick Chewing
06-15-2023, 11:00 AM
I said that if their earnings are negative next Q, which is when all this started, I would admit I was wrong. The goal posts have been the same from the start. Nothing has changed.
I might be wrong.
I might also be right. They were in the positive last Q and currently their stock is up vs 1 year ago. And if their earnings have increased, we'll see who is moving goal posts then.
But you are wrong already. Even if Anheuser-Busch shows a profit in the next quarter, the profit would be so much smaller by a huge margin than had they never come out with this campaign in the first place. So you're looking at this from a glass half full approach as hey "a profit is a profit", but the profits would have been astronomically larger had they never come out with this ad campaign. You do understand that, right?
FKAri
06-15-2023, 11:05 AM
But you are wrong already. Even if Anheuser-Busch shows a profit in the next quarter, the profit would be so much smaller by a huge margin than had they never come out with this campaign in the first place. So you're looking at this from a glass half full approach as hey "a profit is a profit", but the profits would have been astronomically larger had they never come out with this ad campaign. You do understand that, right?
"Even if they come out ahead it means they didn't come out as ahead as they would've!" :oldlol:
Cmon bro going woke is usually good for business. I dunno where the myth that it isn't started. Unless I'm misunderstanding the term "woke". Pandering and virtue signalling is marketing 101. These companies will keep doing it.
Off the Court
06-15-2023, 11:06 AM
But you are wrong already. Even if Anheuser-Busch shows a profit in the next quarter, the profit would be so much smaller by a huge margin than had they never come out with this campaign in the first place. So you're looking at this from a glass half full approach as hey "a profit is a profit", but the profits would have been astronomically larger had they never come out with this ad campaign. You do understand that, right?
https://twitter.com/DailyLoud/status/1669187862317629440?t=q1zwfS_Xqg1m5rvUaNJkGQ&s=19
That's what I've been talking about right there. AB has so many products that the 25% who stopped drinking BL just traded it in for a different AB product.
Modelo is the new #1. Modelo is owned by AB.
I wouldn't be surprised if many simply traded in their Budlight for Budweiser.
No loss, and all that happened is then pounding BL into our heads over and over.
Brilliant marketing
Patrick Chewing
06-15-2023, 11:08 AM
"Even if they come out ahead it means they didn't come out as ahead as they would've!" :oldlol:
Cmon bro going woke is usually good for business. I dunno where the myth that it isn't started. Unless I'm misunderstanding the term "woke". Pandering and virtue signalling is marketing 101. These companies will keep doing it.
I honestly don't know how some of you can spin all these losses that Anheuser-Busch is seeing into a positive. There aren't more people drinking Bud Light now because of Dylan Mulvaney and rainbow-colored beer cans.
FKAri
06-15-2023, 02:57 PM
I honestly don't know how some of you can spin all these losses that Anheuser-Busch is seeing into a positive. There aren't more people drinking Bud Light now because of Dylan Mulvaney and rainbow-colored beer cans.
They probably are going to lose money but your goal posts are even flimsier than offthecourt's.
"If their earnings do down I was right but if they go up it means they could've been even higher so I'm right either way." - You
"If their earnings go up I was right. If their earnings go down I'll concede." - Offthecourt.
I personally don't think it's that simple. Earnings might lag. Their other product lines randomly take off. They might come out ahead. Who knows what happens.
warriorfan
06-15-2023, 03:41 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/yxJX8Mry/92-FC2-B7-F-176-B-4-E75-850-D-3-F76-DD3-FF411.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/QCRg9f2G/76-A9-B50-C-E253-4-A59-95-EF-9-A9-D7-F9-BDD2-C.jpg
/thread
j3lademaster
06-15-2023, 04:05 PM
https://twitter.com/DailyLoud/status/1669187862317629440?t=q1zwfS_Xqg1m5rvUaNJkGQ&s=19
That's what I've been talking about right there. AB has so many products that the 25% who stopped drinking BL just traded it in for a different AB product.
Modelo is the new #1. Modelo is owned by AB.
I wouldn't be surprised if many simply traded in their Budlight for Budweiser.
No loss, and all that happened is then pounding BL into our heads over and over.
Brilliant marketingNot exactly. AB owns the distribution outside of the states, but domestic sales go to someone else; which is the point of the boycott.
Patrick Chewing
06-15-2023, 04:48 PM
They probably are going to lose money but your goal posts are even flimsier than offthecourt's.
"If their earnings do down I was right but if they go up it means they could've been even higher so I'm right either way." - You
"If their earnings go up I was right. If their earnings go down I'll concede." - Offthecourt.
I personally don't think it's that simple. Earnings might lag. Their other product lines randomly take off. They might come out ahead. Who knows what happens.
I don't see how you think that's moving the goalposts. Off the Court is saying that he'll change his tune if AHB does not record a profit in their most recent quarter as a result of this campaing. But even if they do show a profit, it doesn't mean that this marketing campaign was a success. It only means that had they never ran with this campaign, that their profits would have been that much more. They have lost billions in sales as a result of this marketing campaign. That's irrefutable.
warriorfan
06-15-2023, 06:19 PM
I don't see how you think that's moving the goalposts. Off the Court is saying that he'll change his tune if AHB does not record a profit in their most recent quarter as a result of this campaing. But even if they do show a profit, it doesn't mean that this marketing campaign was a success. It only means that had they never ran with this campaign, that their profits would have been that much more. They have lost billions in sales as a result of this marketing campaign. That's irrefutable.
yes, off the cope moving goalposts from bud light sales to the AB conglomerate in whole was pretty much an admission of defeat
bud light was the best selling beer in america until the tranny thing
there’s no amount of intellectual dishonest squirming he can do to change that fact
he lost
I don't understand why people are so shocked about sales drop of budlight, I for one don't care if you are gay/trans, but I'll be the first to admit that constantly seeing that type of shit in movies/shows/advertising is disgusting to me, and I'm sure most straight males feel the same, even if they don't want to admit it. And now they are teaching this shit in schools to little kids? What is the agenda here? It's all very weird to me.
Teaching kids LGBTQ exist and deserve equal rights is how you avoid those kids turning into Chewing types. Duh
Patrick Chewing
06-15-2023, 09:48 PM
Teaching kids LGBTQ exist and deserve equal rights is how you avoid those kids turning into Chewing types. Duh
I have no problem with you being gay. I have a problem if you think I'm going to follow along and believe that men can become women and vice versa. And the most egregious one, that men can get pregnant.
But again, I want to emphasize, if you, RRR3, are a flaming homosexual, then I have no problem with that.
Hey Yo
06-17-2023, 06:10 AM
AB going on a summer tour in hopes of reeling their customers back.
https://www.outkick.com/anheuser-busch-ceo-brendan-whitworth-bud-light-summer-tour/
Off the Court
06-17-2023, 08:58 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/yxJX8Mry/92-FC2-B7-F-176-B-4-E75-850-D-3-F76-DD3-FF411.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/QCRg9f2G/76-A9-B50-C-E253-4-A59-95-EF-9-A9-D7-F9-BDD2-C.jpg
/thread
I already pointed this out. AB owns Modelo the new #1
:roll:
That's what I've been saying in here all along. AB owns dozens of beer lines, You guys think a 15% drop in just one of them means "go broke".
Bud Light cancelers just switched to a different AB product :oldlol:
AB is probably still growing as a company. We'll see with the earnings release.Goal posts unchanged
warriorfan
06-17-2023, 02:26 PM
I already pointed this out. AB owns Modelo the new #1
:roll:
That's what I've been saying in here all along. AB owns dozens of beer lines, You guys think a 15% drop in just one of them means "go broke".
Bud Light cancelers just switched to a different AB product :oldlol:
AB is probably still growing as a company. We'll see with the earnings release.Goal posts unchanged
you don’t get it :lol
PistolPete
06-28-2023, 12:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL-yN7FVLHU
"Brilliant marketing strategy"
https://media4.giphy.com/media/3ohzdYJK1wAdPWVk88/giphy.gif
Off the Court
06-28-2023, 05:04 PM
Sales hit their record low? :oldlol: Their sales started at $0 so I guess AB is literally broke now.
We don't know what their sales are until they report earnings. They don't even know what their official sales are yet. We can see their stock is still up on the year, and we can also see that their beer Modelo is the the new #1.
This is the key moment for "go woke go broke"? AB still making profit but "just not as much"? That is your big victory? :oldlol:
I have a question, when are we going to actually see a company go broke to right wing cancel culture? I mean a real broke and not a pretend one like this?
PistolPete
06-28-2023, 05:16 PM
:oldlol:
How can you possibly spin this in a positive way despite the astronomical drop in Sales and the fact that they fired the woman who came up with the stupid marketing campaign in the first place?
Off the Court
06-28-2023, 05:17 PM
And now the right has moved on to canceling Starbucks because they put up some Rainbow decorations?
Honestly Bud Light is acceptable to ban because it's piss and horrible for your health. Everyone should stop drinking that anyway, regardless of their ads.
But Starbucks? Hell no that's delicious :oldlol:
When you ban good products like Nike and Netflix and Starbucks you're not harming them, you're harming you.
PistolPete
06-28-2023, 05:22 PM
Remember what we're witnessing here, kids. Off the Court is attempting to downplay a drop in Sales, and by magic, turn it into a positive for all these companies mentioned.
Maybe in Fantasy Land this works, but not in the real world.
Off the Court
06-28-2023, 05:25 PM
Remember what we're witnessing here, kids. Off the Court is attempting to downplay a drop in Sales, and by magic, turn it into a positive for all these companies mentioned.
Maybe in Fantasy Land this works, but not in the real world.
This will be a fun post to read when earnings show Modelo at record highs and AB still in the green and you come to the realization that AB only goes broke in fantasy land.
PistolPete
06-28-2023, 05:36 PM
This will be a fun post to read when earnings show Modelo at record highs and AB still in the green and you come to the realization that AB only goes broke in fantasy land.
I have to correct you and challenge you because not everyone else on this board is as in tune with this conversation as you or I since I'm the one that called you out in the first place.
No one on here, not myself included has ever made any mention of AB going broke. A company like AB doesn't go broke. It's impossible at this point just as companies like Apple or Google will never go broke. So, for the people that aren't paying attention to our little argument on a daily basis, I have to correct the record cause you want to change the narrative on here about what we're talking about. It has NEVER been about AB going broke. It has been about calling out a failed campaign because companies want to go Woke and in turn, they see a drop in Sales. Which is what we're seeing. You cannot refute my previous sentence. Companies like AB have sales forecasts that go years and years into the future. So you cannot come back and say that since AB is still recording a profit that it proves you were right and I was wrong. If a company projects 60 billion in sales for a calendar year, but then because they make a blunder as they did with this ad campaign only make a profit 20 billion, then yes, it is considered a loss, a mistake, whatever you want to call it.
So once again, you can fool the others with your circular logic and Liberal word salad, but you will never fool me.
Gruppenführer
06-28-2023, 05:45 PM
Remember what we're witnessing here, kids. Off the Court is attempting to downplay a drop in Sales, and by magic, turn it into a positive for all these companies mentioned.
Maybe in Fantasy Land this works, but not in the real world.
:oldlol:
warriorfan
06-28-2023, 05:59 PM
Remember what we're witnessing here, kids. Off the Court is attempting to downplay a drop in Sales, and by magic, turn it into a positive for all these companies mentioned.
Maybe in Fantasy Land this works, but not in the real world.
He’s going full Q anon Shaman.
Off the Court
06-28-2023, 08:55 PM
I have to correct you and challenge you because not everyone else on this board is as in tune with this conversation as you or I since I'm the one that called you out in the first place.
No one on here, not myself included has ever made any mention of AB going broke. A company like AB doesn't go broke. It's impossible at this point just as companies like Apple or Google will never go broke. So, for the people that aren't paying attention to our little argument on a daily basis, I have to correct the record cause you want to change the narrative on here about what we're talking about. It has NEVER been about AB going broke. It has been about calling out a failed campaign because companies want to go Woke and in turn, they see a drop in Sales. Which is what we're seeing. You cannot refute my previous sentence. Companies like AB have sales forecasts that go years and years into the future. So you cannot come back and say that since AB is still recording a profit that it proves you were right and I was wrong. If a company projects 60 billion in sales for a calendar year, but then because they make a blunder as they did with this ad campaign only make a profit 20 billion, then yes, it is considered a loss, a mistake, whatever you want to call it.
So once again, you can fool the others with your circular logic and Liberal word salad, but you will never fool me.
To be clear, if the next earnings report shows growth from one year ago, that means I was right and you were wrong. If profits are down from one year ago, I'll say I was wrong. And maybe I am, we'll see. If I have to own up I'll do that.
This is me being NICE to you. Because we all know that in the long run AB will go on to recapture record highs. I'm allowing you to limit it to just one quarter out of the goodness of my heart.
Off the Court
06-28-2023, 08:59 PM
Also if it's never been about going broke like you say, that phrase needs to change.
White Hammer
06-28-2023, 10:31 PM
Also if it's never been about going broke like you say, that phrase needs to change.
Yeah but "Go woke, see a temporary drop in sales" doesn't have the same ring to it :oldlol:
Catchphrases don't have to be true in a literal sense. They just have to capture the spirit of the message. I never liked the go broke phrase, but it's not a big deal.
PistolPete
06-29-2023, 01:00 AM
Off the Court's logic: "Hey, if a company doesn't go broke, then I win!"
warriorfan
06-29-2023, 10:06 PM
Off the Court's logic: "Hey, if a company doesn't go broke, then I win!"
lmaoooo
I really hope he is trolling
If not……wow, just wow.
Off the Court
06-29-2023, 11:59 PM
I literally just two posts ago said that if their earnings are down even $1 y/y I lose :oldlol:
That's how easy I'm making it for you. ANY loss.
warriorfan
06-30-2023, 12:11 AM
I literally just two posts ago said that if their earnings are down even $1 y/y I lose :oldlol:
That's how easy I'm making it for you. ANY loss.
All it proves is their company is so robust it can weather the storm from their brain dead decision.
Bud Light was literally the best selling beer in america before this
Just because a bunch of people ended up buying modelo instead and the conglomerate is close to a monopoly at this point which owns it as well doesn’t mean it wasn’t a poor and out of touch business strategy
Not going into the red isn’t the same as lost potential profits
You are operating at pure clown level right now which is pretty much par for the course but this is even more egregious then usual.
I’ll say again I hope to god you are merely low effort trolling at this point…if not…yikes. Seek help immediately. Something in your life is causing you to behave this way. Figure it out and do better.
GL little bro
PistolPete
06-30-2023, 12:14 AM
I literally just two posts ago said that if their earnings are down even $1 y/y I lose :oldlol:
That's how easy I'm making it for you. ANY loss.
If their sales end up being lower than their sales forecast, then it's a loss.
Because the flip side to your coin is that if they report as little as $1 in profit, you're going to sit there and try to convince us again that this marketing strategy worked, when the woman who came up with it has been fired.
highwhey
06-30-2023, 12:33 AM
i just realized full court and off the court are separate posters...:oldlol:
TheMan
06-30-2023, 08:10 AM
:oldlol:
How can you possibly spin this in a positive way despite the astronomical drop in Sales and the fact that they fired the woman who came up with the stupid marketing campaign in the first place?
According to Off the Court, that marketing strategy was so brilliant that the person in charge of it got a promoti...err I mean :roll:
Modelo is #1 but because it's actually a great tasting Mexican beer with it's own history and not because it was bought off by AB a few years ago.
TheMan
06-30-2023, 08:16 AM
Off the Court's logic: "Hey, if a company doesn't go broke, then I win!"
He's nuts, AB is literally too big to actually go broke, they own too many damn beers at this point. But Bud Light, their beer line that had that "brilliant marketing strategy" is going down the shithole because it's woke BS and because it really does suck.
Hey Yo
06-30-2023, 10:46 AM
While at the liquor store last Saturday, a couple came in returning 7 cases of bud light that wasn't needed for their wedding reception.
Patrick Chewing
07-27-2023, 01:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmkmnpztsfg
"Brilliant marketing strategy" - Off The Court
Off the Court
07-27-2023, 03:23 PM
I missed some replies here :oldlol:
https://simplywall.st/stocks/be/food-beverage-tobacco/ebr-abi/anheuser-busch-inbev-shares/future#:~:text=Anheuser%2DBusch%20InBev%20is%20for ecasted,be%2010%25%20in%203%20years.
There's a forecast for you.
CEO says while Budlight is down 24% in the US is only down 1% global and their other brands are up. Sometimes we forget that the US is only 5% of the world population. The rest of the world doesn't care about our culture wars.
The only question is, will you be man enough to admit you were wrong? Probably not. Brilliant marketing
Patrick Chewing
07-27-2023, 03:35 PM
I missed some replies here :oldlol:
https://simplywall.st/stocks/be/food-beverage-tobacco/ebr-abi/anheuser-busch-inbev-shares/future#:~:text=Anheuser%2DBusch%20InBev%20is%20for ecasted,be%2010%25%20in%203%20years.
There's a forecast for you.
CEO says while Budlight is down 24% in the US is only down 1% global and their other brands are up. Sometimes we forget that the US is only 5% of the world population. The rest of the world doesn't care about our culture wars.
The only question is, will you be man enough to admit you were wrong? Probably not. Brilliant marketing
Did you just write that Bud Light is down 24% in the United States and asked me to admit that I was wrong in the same post?? :roll:
warriorfan
07-27-2023, 04:00 PM
Did you just write that Bud Light is down 24% in the United States and asked me to admit that I was wrong in the same post?? :roll:
lmfaoooo
“it only didn’t affect areas where the promo wasn’t launched and where they didn’t even know it existed….CHECKMATE”
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Off the Court
07-27-2023, 04:05 PM
"Areas" :oldlol:
If overall revenue and profits are the areas.
So AB is still growing, they're making more than this time last year, and you think YOU won? :roll:
Long Duck Dong
07-27-2023, 04:06 PM
I missed some replies here :oldlol:
https://simplywall.st/stocks/be/food-beverage-tobacco/ebr-abi/anheuser-busch-inbev-shares/future#:~:text=Anheuser%2DBusch%20InBev%20is%20for ecasted,be%2010%25%20in%203%20years.
There's a forecast for you.
CEO says while Budlight is down 24% in the US is only down 1% global and their other brands are up. Sometimes we forget that the US is only 5% of the world population. The rest of the world doesn't care about our culture wars.
The only question is, will you be man enough to admit you were wrong? Probably not. Brilliant marketing
That 1% is the entire AB line though, not just Bud Light and the CEO said that back in May before a lot of the recent damage was done. The Bud Light domestic sales is dragging down the entire line.
But at the end of the day these huge conglomerates have so many products under their umbrella, they rarely get hurt with blows like these. InBev loses money with Anheuser Busch, gains it right back with Miller and Modelo. :confusedshrug:
Off the Court
07-27-2023, 04:31 PM
That 1% is the entire AB line though, not just Bud Light and the CEO said that back in May before a lot of the recent damage was done. The Bud Light domestic sales is dragging down the entire line.
But at the end of the day these huge conglomerates have so many products under their umbrella, they rarely get hurt with blows like these. InBev loses money with Anheuser Busch, gains it right back with Miller and Modelo. :confusedshrug:
There are a lot of tribal Chewings and warriorfans out there screaming go woke go broke without actually looking to see if these companies are losing money. This event is billed as the epitome of go woke go broke and AB is still growing. Because the reality is they only lost 24% from ONE brand in just ONE of the many countries its sold and many of those avoiding simply bought other AB brands.
Long Duck Dong
07-27-2023, 04:48 PM
There are a lot of tribal Chewings and warriorfans out there screaming go woke go broke without actually looking to see if these companies are losing money. This event is billed as the epitome of go woke go broke and AB is still growing. Because the reality is they only lost 24% from ONE brand in just ONE of the many countries its sold and many of those avoiding simply bought other AB brands.
You can thanks the Democrats for that. If you take a look at the biggest corporate mergers in the last 50 years, like 80% of the biggest ones happened when Democrats were in control. These massive global corporations are almost immune to the whims and wants of the public. Image problem? Just pay off an opinion leader. These corporations have a little harder time controlling those on the right though because they tend to be too busy with work and family to care what someone else is trying to force feed them. While the left has an army of celebrities and activists willing to do their bidding and an audience that tends to have less going for them in their lives or are so successful they'll buy in just to feel better about themselves. That is until Trump came along. He polarized and manipulated many on the right, like the best opinion leaders of the left
Patrick Chewing
07-27-2023, 05:03 PM
There are a lot of tribal Chewings and warriorfans out there screaming go woke go broke without actually looking to see if these companies are losing money. This event is billed as the epitome of go woke go broke and AB is still growing. Because the reality is they only lost 24% from ONE brand in just ONE of the many countries its sold and many of those avoiding simply bought other AB brands.
You're still being a disingenuous clown. Several posters including myself have said that it is clear as day that a company like AB or InBev will never go broke. That's not what this is about. It's about coming out with a marketing campaign, and not seeing an increase in sales because of said marketing campaign. No one is buying more Bud Light beer because of Dylan Mulvaney. Otherwise, they would have never fired the woman that came up with the idea and they would not be firing employees. You're bringing in this global sales crap to justify that seriously stupid comment you made about this being a brilliant marketing strategy just so you won't have to walk it back. It's cowardly. You ****ed up. Just admit it and we can all move on.
"But, but, but sales are up globally and there is so much Bud Light being sold in Sri Lanka right now it's insane! Brilliant marketing strategy!"
Off the Court
07-27-2023, 05:30 PM
You're still being a disingenuous clown. Several posters including myself have said that it is clear as day that a company like AB or InBev will never go broke. That's not what this is about. It's about coming out with a marketing campaign, and not seeing an increase in sales because of said marketing campaign.
But this is exactly what I am talking about. They are still growing. Global sales are increasing.
I didn't make it about going broke, I am making it about going negative at any rate, even just $1.
They made $57 Billion in 2022 and are expected to make 8% more than that in 2023, but somehow you think you won?
TheMan
07-27-2023, 05:32 PM
You're still being a disingenuous clown. Several posters including myself have said that it is clear as day that a company like AB or InBev will never go broke. That's not what this is about. It's about coming out with a marketing campaign, and not seeing an increase in sales because of said marketing campaign. No one is buying more Bud Light beer because of Dylan Mulvaney. Otherwise, they would have never fired the woman that came up with the idea and they would not be firing employees. You're bringing in this global sales crap to justify that seriously stupid comment you made about this being a brilliant marketing strategy just so you won't have to walk it back. It's cowardly. You ****ed up. Just admit it and we can all move on.
"But, but, but sales are up globally and there is so much Bud Light being sold in Sri Lanka right now it's insane! Brilliant marketing strategy!"
Pretty much. I was buying beer the other day, saw some Bud Light and while I was buying my 6 pack of Modelo, I asked the cashier if people were buying Bud Light or not because of the Dylan Mulvaney backlash and she had no idea what I was talking about :lol I guarantee if they ran that ad in Spanish and marketed to Hispanics, it would've also had a backlash, we're socially conservative. It was a disaster where it ran, but like you said, it's sales are up in Paraguay where they don't know who Dylan Mulvaney is! Brilliant! :roll:
TheMan
07-27-2023, 05:37 PM
But this is exactly what I am talking about. They are still growing. Global sales are increasing.
I didn't make it about going broke, I am making it about going negative at any rate, even just $1.
They made $57 Billion in 2022 and are expected to make 8% more than that in 2023, but somehow you think you won?
You conflating overall sales of AB with Bud Light's. Ewing's main argument is that it was a poor marketing strategy by Bud Light in the US where that strategy was aimed at. Sales of Bud Light are down big in the US, Bud Light workers are being laid off, the chick who came up with that strategy was removed, also her boss...just admit it was a terrible marketing strategy bro :facepalm You don't alienate your core base without attracting new ones and then claim it was brilliant because sales haven't been affected in other parts of the world where they have no clue who this Dylan Mulvaney clown is...
Off the Court
07-27-2023, 05:42 PM
You conflating overall sales of AB. Ewing's main argument is that it was a poor marketing strategy by Bud Light in the US where that strategy was aimed at. Sales of Bud Light are down big, Bud Light workers are being laid off, the chick who came up with that strategy was removed, also her boss...just admit it was a terrible marketing strategy bro :facepalm You don't alienate your core base without attracting new ones and then claim it was brilliant (your word).
Overall sales is all that should matter, and I think at the end of the day any publicity is good publicity, after the dust has settled we all had Bud Light pounded into our brains. The only way we can determine real effect is with numbers, which is what me and Chewing settled on. Otherwise it's just word vs word. I will say I do not think they knew that internet ad would go viral the way that it did. But I do not think they are harmed by this being the mega-corp that they are.
TheMan
07-27-2023, 05:49 PM
Overall sales is all that should matter, and I think at the end of the day any publicity is good publicity, after the dust has settled we all had Bud Light pounded into our brains. The only way we can determine real effect is with numbers, which is what me and Chewing settled on. Otherwise it's just word vs word. I will say I do not think they knew that internet ad would go viral the way that it did. But I do not think they are harmed by this being the mega-corp that they are.
AB is huge, they own a bunch of beer brands so they are never going to go broke...however, that Bud Light marketing strategy was a total cluster****, it cost them billions and Alissa Heinersheid is looking for work somewhere else. You don't fire someone for doing a great job. I have nothing against you bro. I agree with some of your takes and disagree with others, same with Chewing. This was not a brilliant marketing strategy, just admit you were wrong and we can all move on :cheers:
Off the Court
07-27-2023, 05:58 PM
Uh no, they didn't lose billions, infact they are on pace to make more billions than they did last year.
I win, Chewing loses, as usual.
Long Duck Dong
07-27-2023, 06:07 PM
Uh no, they didn't lose billions, infact they are on pace to make more billions than they did last year.
I win, Chewing loses, as usual.
OTC could gamble away a month's pay at the casino in a single night and look at his angry wife when he got home, and tell her not to complain because he still has money to pay the bills and put food in the table. Then do a victory dance on the kitchen table and proclaim, "I win, you lose bitch"
Off the Court
07-27-2023, 06:13 PM
OTC could gamble away a month's pay at the casino in a single night and look at his angry wife when he got home, and tell her not to complain because he still has money to pay the bills and put food in the table. Then do a victory dance on the kitchen table and proclaim, "I win, you lose bitch"
If my overall income was still up, then yes, I would be doing a victory dance.
Patrick Chewing
07-27-2023, 09:22 PM
But this is exactly what I am talking about. They are still growing. Global sales are increasing.
I didn't make it about going broke, I am making it about going negative at any rate, even just $1.
They made $57 Billion in 2022 and are expected to make 8% more than that in 2023, but somehow you think you won?
Knowing Off the Court in real life has to be frustrating as hell. Like, I could never have a conversation with this person knowing he's a full on sociopath incapable of admitting he was wrong about something. All he does is find different avenues and escape routes to justify his position as he is doing now by talking about it globally.
So I'm hoping to end this back and forth once and for all by asking him a couple of key and simple questions. How he answers these questions will determine if he was wrong or if he's a sociopath by moving the goal posts again. Noticed how I left out him being right because we all know this isn't the case. So this should be easy for him.
Off the Court:
1. Has the Dylan Mulvaney ad helped increase sales of Bud Light products and directly helped increase the revenue of Anhueser-Busch as a whole?
2. And if you truly believe that it has, how can you show that on a graph?
3. And if the sales of Bud Light products are down 24%, then what is your justification for believing that this was a successful campaign by Anheuser-Busch?
I don't care about global sales because that ad wasn't marketed in Sri Lanka or in the Congo or even in Tuvalu, or anywhere else but here in the United States. I care about the Sales of Bud Light and Anheuser-Busch as a whole here in the United States where that ad was shown. I also want to make you well aware that companies like AB have sales forecasts from quarter to quarter and year to year and no company the size of AB/InBev would consider it a successful ad if one of their brands is down 24% in Sales.
Patrick Chewing
07-27-2023, 09:26 PM
If my overall income was still up, then yes, I would be doing a victory dance.
:facepalm
There is no way in hell you would pass an Economics 101 class.
warriorfan
07-27-2023, 11:21 PM
Off the Cope
Off the Court
08-03-2023, 01:01 PM
I said that if their earnings are negative next Q, which is when all this started, I would admit I was wrong. The goal posts have been the same from the start. Nothing has changed.
I might be wrong.
I might also be right. They were in the positive last Q and currently their stock is up vs 1 year ago. And if their earnings have increased, we'll see who is moving goal posts then.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/03/bud-light-owner-ab-inbev-beats-forecasts-despite-boycott.html?qsearchterm=budweiser%20
Revenue up 7.2% on the year
Profits up 5% on the year
:roll:
Anheuser-Busch InBev, the world’s biggest brewer, on Thursday smashed profit expectations during a quarter that saw a social media-driven boycott of its bestselling Bud Light beer in the U.S.
The Belgium-based Budweiser owner said its second-quarter revenue rose by 7.2% globally, as price hikes offset a 1.4% fall in volumes. The company said organic growth in earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization (EBITDA) was 5%, above a consensus forecast of 0.4%.
I manned up and said id admitt I was wrong if Profits fell.
But I was correct. Again. Another One
PistolPete
08-08-2023, 01:33 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2023/08/07/anheuser-busch-beer-brands-bud-light-dylan-mulvaney-cananbis-tilray/
Yikes!
"Brilliant marketing strategy"
jstern
08-08-2023, 07:25 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/03/bud-light-owner-ab-inbev-beats-forecasts-despite-boycott.html?qsearchterm=budweiser%20
Revenue up 7.2% on the year
Profits up 5% on the year
:roll:
I manned up and said id admitt I was wrong if Profits fell.
But I was correct. Again. Another One
So they hiked up the price, had a double-digit growth of its "mainstream portfolio" in South Africa and Colombia, and regional volumes up by 11% in China.
In the United States, sales fell by 25% in May, 10.5% in the second quarter, and core profit fell 28.2%.
So you could say that it was a brilliant marketing strategy, if it somehow helped the business in other markets outside the US. Where it certainly didn't help.
heyfox
08-09-2023, 05:42 AM
I seriously need to become more aware of things, apparently, and dig deeper. I get fooled way too easily.
Media Moderator
09-15-2023, 03:06 AM
Bud Light — which lost its top spot to Modelo after the controversy — is down 26.9% in dollars and 30.3% in volume, he said, citing a study by Bump Williams Consulting.
The publisher believes it is “likely” the company will continue to see similar year-over-year declines for the “foreseeable future.
Bud light still down over 30% 6 months later. Any day now the customers will come. Any day now. Hello any day now?
Patrick Chewing
09-15-2023, 10:58 AM
Bud light still down over 30% 6 months later. Any day now the customers will come. Any day now. Hello any day now?
Yeah yeah yeah but Modelo is up and they're all under the same company umbrella so it's really not a loss and it's a win. This was a brilliant marketing strategy. Chewing loses and I win.
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