Jordan Poole stats in the 2023 NBA Playoffs

[Lebron23]

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The Warriors really over paid Jordan Poole. Monta Ellis was not that inefficient when he played for the Warriors in the playoffs.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Not an excuse but I bet he's sick of his role. He averaged 20 in the regular season and on paper is good enough to start and star. But he still comes off the bench half the time and it would be less than that if Curry didn't get hurt. Throw in the preseason punch and his body language from the other day and I don't think he wants to be there. May not demand a trade but wouldn't be averse to moving on.

[tpols]

He's beyond garbage.

A hero baller who goes off when they're facing a weak opponent. Against any type of adversity he's trash.

[highwhey]

the dingo effect

[Lebron23]

He is a volume scorer. He is one of those role players who thinks he is as good as Steph or Klay

[ArbitraryWater]

Completely underappreciated. Wi soon be somewhere else and pop off.

[red1]

he's the lakers secret weapon this series


complete momentum-killer for the warriors

[Keno]

the dingo effect

:oldlol::applause:

[L.Kizzle]

Not an excuse but I bet he's sick of his role. He averaged 20 in the regular season and on paper is good enough to start and star. But he still comes off the bench half the time and it would be less than that if Curry didn't get hurt. Throw in the preseason punch and his body language from the other day and I don't think he wants to be there. May not demand a trade but wouldn't be averse to moving on.
He has the perfect role. If he can't produce as a 4th option off the bench what use is he?

[Real Men Wear Green]

He has the perfect role. If he can't produce as a 4th option off the bench what use is he?
He's really second option especially in terms of creating offense. Note that that's not saying he's a better overall player than Klay Thompson at all, just that he's more likely to take the ball and create a shot whereas Thompson is more catch and shoot. Regardless he's a young player that no doubt wants more individual glory. Tough to make the allstar game when you come off the bench for half the games. That's basically your team telling voters that you are only the third best guard in your own team. And it's true.

[Lebron23]

Jordan Poole is still garbage in the playoffs.

[paksat]

couldn't happen to a bigger loud mouth modern generation person, glad that dude got punched into mars

[ArbitraryWater]

couldn't happen to a bigger loud mouth modern generation person, glad that dude got punched into mars

what loud mouth thing did he say?

[Kblaze8855]

Not an excuse but I bet he's sick of his role. He averaged 20 in the regular season and on paper is good enough to start and star. But he still comes off the bench half the time and it would be less than that if Curry didn't get hurt. Throw in the preseason punch and his body language from the other day and I don't think he wants to be there. May not demand a trade but wouldn't be averse to moving on.


Steph missed 26 games and in those games Poole averaged more than 26. Both times curry went down many people(myself included) wondered if it would be the end of their season, but they played over 500 ball without him. They only avoided the play in by like 1 game and were 4-5 from being the 11 seed. It’s entirely possible this isn’t a playoff team without Jordan Poole the way Steph gets hurt these days. He seems to be there as short term insurance they hope can be long term one day.

I think they know if they have to rely on him right now it’s because of bigger problems. Hes supposed to be frosting for a contender not the cake.

[nineiron]

still hasn't recovered from the punch

[HoopologyPhD]

Harrison Pool of doodoo!

[L.Kizzle]

This is his time to shine and he's failing big time. Last season looks like a fluke IMO. I mean if he has a 5 points last night they win. Dude thru up a 0.

[rawimpact]

IMO he is Jordan Clarkson 2.0

[GimmeThat]

shooters can't be shooters when Poole is on the floor, since that's how bad they need his play making, which ends up freezing his shot.

[Jasper]

Not an excuse but I bet he's sick of his role. He averaged 20 in the regular season and on paper is good enough to start and star. But he still comes off the bench half the time and it would be less than that if Curry didn't get hurt. Throw in the preseason punch and his body language from the other day and I don't think he wants to be there. May not demand a trade but wouldn't be averse to moving on.

donte and Poole are headed back home to Milwaukee

[Kblaze8855]

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[Micku]

Didn't JP sprain his ankle? He is playing hurt, right?

He should be better than what he produced in the playoffs, but his BBIQ and his shot selection are bad.

I'm shocked Kerr didn't play Moody more or Kuminga.

[warriorfan]

Didn't JP sprain his ankle? He is playing hurt, right?

He should be better than what he produced in the playoffs, but his BBIQ and his shot selection are bad.

I'm shocked Kerr didn't play Moody more or Kuminga.

Kuminga has shown some struggles playing within the offense still.

I would have given Moody more minutes and done it much earlier though

[tpols]

https://www.hostpic.org/images/2305132114410356.jpeg

Poole cost them game 4 when he went 0-4 with 2TOVs in only 12 minutes. In a game they lost by 1 possession with Lonnie walker going off.

Jordan poole single handedly dismantled the warriors dynasty.

He should be charged with a felony imo. Grand larceny.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Didn't JP sprain his ankle? He is playing hurt, right?

He should be better than what he produced in the playoffs, but his BBIQ and his shot selection are bad.

I'm shocked Kerr didn't play Moody more or Kuminga.

Series vs any other team Poole would of went off. He just wasnt ready for the LA 'Baddies', too much pressure, too soon.

[tontoz]

Series vs any other team Poole would of went off. He just wasnt ready for the LA 'Baddies', too much pressure, too soon.


Poole sucked against the Kings too and they aren't exactly known for their defense.

12 ppg 34% :facepalm

[tpols]

Poole sucked against the Kings too and they aren't exactly known for their defense.

12 ppg 34% :facepalm

I think he purposely threw it all.

He was never this bad. Fg% doesn't even do it justice. He was bricking shots so bad, it wasn't even close to going in.

And the wild bounces led to scores on the other end for the opposing team.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Poole sucked against the Kings too and they aren't exactly known for their defense.

12 ppg 34% :facepalm

Maybe the 'baddies' from California was just too much for Poole.
https://youtu.be/QbZTkhnt5ho
https://youtu.be/qZarWZ-RcvI

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

In all seriousness, another advantage LA had was Lebron. They've experienced LeComeBack1-3 and it got to their head.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Dray is the real leader and thats WHY the punch occurred... he's the alpha of the team. Does what he wants. If Curry was an actual leader, Dray would be put in his place and would NEVER think to punch a budding superstar who was putting up 26/5/5 on elite efficiency last year with Curry out of the lineup.


So curry is to blame here... not making it work with such a young supreme talent is just sad. Another failure by the one-dimensional curry.

[DMAVS41]

Dray is the real leader and thats WHY the punch occurred... he's the alpha of the team. Does what he wants. If Curry was an actual leader, Dray would be put in his place and would NEVER think to punch a budding superstar who was putting up 26/5/5 on elite efficiency last year with Curry out of the lineup.


So curry is to blame here... not making it work with such a young supreme talent is just sad. Another failure by the one-dimensional curry.

Cool story, tell us more about how KD is the best player in the league and has great leadership.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Cool story, tell us more about how KD is the best player in the league and has great leadership.

Carried Irving to the playoffs when Luka couldn't make the play-in. Averaged 34/9/4 on 63% TS in his 1st playoff stint without the Warriors and would've won with a healthy cast.

Carried the Nets and Suns all regular season this year.



Stuff curry and dirk wouldn't be close to capable of in the same situations.

[DMAVS41]

Again, cool story...another season...another loss...a blowout loss as the leader of the team.

Epic...he must be the best player and leader in the league.

Guy has a teammate averaging 34/5/7 (69% TS) in the playoffs and he can't sniff the conference finals. :roll:

[AlternativeAcc.]

Again, cool story...another season...another loss...a blowout loss as the leader of the team.

Epic...he must be the best player and leader in the league.

Yeah he's a ****ing beast. Fits with anyone. Gave Booker the ability to have the playoffs of his life after scoring in the low 20's vs the Mavs.


30/9/6 on 60% TS while being their best defender is a huge failure. Looks better than Dirks best run and Dirk didn't play D. :oldlol:

[DMAVS41]

Yeah he's a ****ing beast. Fits with anyone. Gave Booker the ability to have the playoffs of his life after scoring in the low 20's vs the Mavs.


30/9/6 on 60% TS while being their best defender is a huge failure. Looks better than Dirks best run and Dirk didn't play D. :oldlol:

Cool stats...it's almost as if he plays for stats and not for the team.

L after L after L...unless, of course, he's playing on maybe the best team ever...and even with that...was ****ing lucky to win in 18 as he was derailing the Warriors style with his iso / selfish nonsense and would have lost if Paul didn't get hurt.

L

What happened though? You said Suns would win...maybe Durant's inefficiency and turnovers and lack of leadership cost his team?

[AlternativeAcc.]

Cool stats...it's almost as if he plays for stats and not for the team.

L after L after L...unless, of course, he's playing on maybe the best team ever...and even with that...was ****ing lucky to win in 18 as he was derailing the Warriors style with his iso / selfish nonsense and would have lost if Paul didn't get hurt.

L

What happened though? You said Suns would win...maybe Durant's inefficiency and turnovers and lack of leadership cost his team?

Nah I think their all-time bad bench and losing their 3rd and 4th option had more to do with it.



But nice take. Sound pretty desperate.

[warriorfan]

Cool stats...it's almost as if he plays for stats and not for the team.

L after L after L...unless, of course, he's playing on maybe the best team ever...and even with that...was ****ing lucky to win in 18 as he was derailing the Warriors style with his iso / selfish nonsense and would have lost if Paul didn't get hurt.

L

What happened though? You said Suns would win...maybe Durant's inefficiency and turnovers and lack of leadership cost his team?

You can tell by eye test and impact gauging metrics confirm that he has empty stats. Look at RAPM or Raptor or Espn’s RPM and for KD’s entire career he’s never scored well in any of them. He doesn’t bring you anything past his box score. And like you said he tends to derail and hijack the offense to get that as well.

factor that in with a sulky and pouty demeanor with thin skin and no real leadership abilities…it’s not a mystery why he’s underachieved for his entire career minus the Golden State years.

[bdonovan]

I've already written how the Warriors botched the situation of Greene decking Poole. How it contaminated the team culture. Poole does have the skill to be a great player; he's showed that. But it has to be for another team. The chemistry can't be fixed.

As a young player, he's emotionally not handled the situation well, as one may expect for someone of his age (evidenced by this still being angry at Greene, snapping at him, as well as his poor play). Poole felt he arrived with the 128 Million contract, but according to the Big 3, he still had to prove himself. It's an awkward position for a young guy to be in. With his own arrogance, he's pushed them away from mentoring him, where instead they sit back and let him try to show he's worth the money they paid him.

GSW org is usually high-EQ but in this case, they've lost the plot. Including assuming they need to keep Poole and the team will eventually mesh. They won't. The best they can hope for is dealing him and taking what they can get.

[DMAVS41]

Nah I think their all-time bad bench and losing their 3rd and 4th option had more to do with it.



But nice take. Sound pretty desperate.

I'm talking about why Durant struggled so much if he was supposed to be the best player on the court...especially when his teammate was roasting the other team. Just too hard on Durant to only have one all-nba level teammate playing great? He needs two or three to make it out of the 2nd round?

Interesting.

[DMAVS41]

I've already written how the Warriors botched the situation of Greene decking Poole. How it contaminated the team culture. Poole does have the skill to be a great player; he's showed that. But it has to be for another team. The chemistry can't be fixed.

As a young player, he's emotionally not handled the situation well, as one may expect for someone of his age (evidenced by this still being angry at Greene, snapping at him, as well as his poor play). Poole felt he arrived with the 128 Million contract, but according to the Big 3, he still had to prove himself. It's an awkward position for a young guy to be in. With his own arrogance, he's pushed them away from mentoring him, where instead they sit back and let him try to show he's worth the money they paid him.

GSW org is usually high-EQ but in this case, they've lost the plot. Including assuming they need to keep Poole and the team will eventually mesh. They won't. The best they can hope for is dealing him and taking what they can get.

With that contract...he'll likely have negative value right now. Probably best to get him going in the regular season and then move him after he rebuilds some value.

Looking back...probably the real mistake was not moving Kuminga. If you aren't going to play him...he has decent enough value to improve the roster for this year and maybe next to get a vet or two. The Warriors badly needed a couple extra vets that could play...especially when this might be the last great chance at a title.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

"Hey Poole, theres some baddies over there".
https://youtube.com/shorts/qpzv3d0cOO8?feature=share

[AlternativeAcc.]

I'm talking about why Durant struggled so much if he was supposed to be the best player on the court...especially when his teammate was roasting the other team. Just too hard on Durant to only have one all-nba level teammate playing great? He needs two or three to make it out of the 2nd round?

Interesting.

Him struggling is putting up 30/10/5 on good efficiency while allowing his teammate to have career outings thanks to his gravity....

Dirk won putting up 25ppg on 40% and playing no D. :oldlol:


Butlers team hung around when he was shooting poorly in the 1st half. Curry's team stuck around. Tatums team stuck around.


KD's team went down by 30 after he sat.

You're a moron brotha. So desperate.

[DMAVS41]

Him struggling is putting up 30/10/5 on good efficiency while allowing his teammate to have career outings thanks to his gravity....

Dirk won putting up 25ppg on 40% and playing no D. :oldlol:


Butlers team hung around when he was shooting poorly in the 1st half. Curry's team stuck around. Tatums team stuck around.


KD's team went down by 30 after he sat.

You're a moron brotha. So desperate.

It wasn't good efficiency. 54.8% TS in this league is not good efficiency. The **** you talking about? This is 2023...not 2003.

Again, stats!!!!!...guys as good as Durant that play for stats are going to have great stats. Too bad they don't help their teams as much as they should in the process because they can't play within a team concept.

[ArbitraryWater]

Cool stats...it's almost as if he plays for stats and not for the team.

L after L after L...unless, of course, he's playing on maybe the best team ever...and even with that...was ****ing lucky to win in 18 as he was derailing the Warriors style with his iso / selfish nonsense and would have lost if Paul didn't get hurt.

L

What happened though? You said Suns would win...maybe Durant's inefficiency and turnovers and lack of leadership cost his team?


Its crazy how big of a break that was, for everyone but especially KD.

Similar to Kobes 2010 game 7 with the refs bailing him out and Perkins injury allowing all the off rebounds.

[DMAVS41]

Its crazy how big of a break that was, for everyone but especially KD.

Similar to Kobes 2010 game 7 with the refs bailing him out and Perkins injury allowing all the off rebounds.

It really was. His legacy without the 18 title and finals MVP...with a loss to the Rockets...is so much worse than it is now...even though most of what he gets now is based off the Warriors.

Such a huge break as it would have either been a title for Paul/Harden or another one for Lebron.

Crazy...I'm not even a fan of Paul/Harden, but people forget how good that Rockets team was. Morey built an unreal good team given the circumstances.

[ArbitraryWater]

It really was. His legacy without the 18 title and finals MVP...with a loss to the Rockets...is so much worse than it is now...even though most of what he gets now is based off the Warriors.

Such a huge break as it would have either been a title for Paul/Harden or another one for Lebron.

Crazy...I'm not even a fan of Paul/Harden, but people forget how good that Rockets team was. Morey built an unreal good team given the circumstances.

Im saying. People really do.

starface just called that Harden MVP "stat padded" here:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?511790-What-is-the-obsession-with-fans-wanting-chuckers-to-have-%93their-own-team-%94/page2

The disrespect for that team/season is crazy.


Imagine how much differently KD would be viewed with just 1 measly title/FMVP, or Kobe with just 1 off Shaq. Refs intervened in both instances and injuries did too.

It also would opside the Bron-Curry ring count, which should never be 4-4. But thats mainly 2015. Warriors sure caught some crazy breaks.

[tpols]

Cool stats...it's almost as if he plays for stats and not for the team.

L after L after L...unless, of course, he's playing on maybe the best team ever...and even with that...was ****ing lucky to win in 18 as he was derailing the Warriors style with his iso / selfish nonsense and would have lost if Paul didn't get hurt.

L

What happened though? You said Suns would win...maybe Durant's inefficiency and turnovers and lack of leadership cost his team?

Dmavs going nuts on this guy. :roll:

He deserves it.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Dmavs going nuts on this guy. :roll:

He deserves it.

You sound like a groupie. How many times are you gonna reply to someone else to try and take a shot at me? Lol, passive aggressive on a message board. You're a loser.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Its crazy how big of a break that was, for everyone but especially KD.

Similar to Kobes 2010 game 7 with the refs bailing him out and Perkins injury allowing all the off rebounds.

Only morons think the Rockets would've actually won that series. 0 chance Warriors lose that series.



Hilarious you guys are not using the "what if" game but don't use it in Durant's favor. DDS. Durant Derangement Syndrome.

[AlternativeAcc.]

It wasn't good efficiency. 54.8% TS in this league is not good efficiency. The **** you talking about? This is 2023...not 2003.

Again, stats!!!!!...guys as good as Durant that play for stats are going to have great stats. Too bad they don't help their teams as much as they should in the process because they can't play within a team concept.

Why aren't you criticizing Curry for scoring less on the same efficiency while being a non-factor on D? I see people saying Curry was carrying while surrounded by shooters and literally carried on defense.

:roll:

[tpols]

You sound like a groupie. How many times are you gonna reply to someone else to try and take a shot at me? Lol, passive aggressive on a message board. You're a loser.


:roll:

Bro I'd square off on you no problem.

[DMAVS41]

Why aren't you criticizing Curry for scoring less on the same efficiency while being a non-factor on D? I see people saying Curry was carrying while surrounded by shooters and literally carried on defense.

:roll:

I would if we were talking about Curry...although the Lakers defense is significantly better than the Nuggets and Curry is coming off one of the best game 7's in NBA history, a title, and a finals MVP. His team also didn't help much...he didn't have a teammate, for example, averaging 31/5/8 (68% TS)....Klay and Poole were terrible in this series.

Lastly, Curry has already proven, multiple times now, everything we need to know. He's going to go down as a top 10 or so player of all-time for sure and how high he climbs will be how his longevity plays out over the next 5 years.

Durant, on the other hand, still needs to prove he can lead a team...and honestly...given what we just saw...he's the 2nd best player on the Suns...LOL

[AlternativeAcc.]

I would if we were talking about Curry...although the Lakers defense is significantly better than the Nuggets and Curry is coming off one of the best game 7's in NBA history, a title, and a finals MVP. His team also didn't help much...he didn't have a teammate, for example, averaging 31/5/8 (68% TS)....Klay and Poole were terrible in this series.

Lastly, Curry has already proven, multiple times now, everything we need to know. He's going to go down as a top 10 or so player of all-time for sure and how high he climbs will be how his longevity plays out over the next 5 years.

Durant, on the other hand, still needs to prove he can lead a team...and honestly...given what we just saw...he's the 2nd best player on the Suns...LOL

So now the defense matters :roll:

And if you think Booker and literal no names is better help than Klay, Wiggins,, Dray and a solid bench then you should find a new sport to talk about.

Curry hasn't proven anything other than having teammate luck and easy competition in certain years. That's always been the point.


Durant has led teams his whole career and has a higher peak than curry, has better longevity stats, ans better per game numbers across the board while being an effective defender most of his career.


LOL.

[DMAVS41]

So now the defense matters :roll:

And if you think Booker and literal no names is better help than Klay, Wiggins,, Dray and a solid bench then you should find a new sport to talk about.

Curry hasn't proven anything other than having teammate luck and easy competition in certain years. That's always been the point.


Durant has led teams his whole career and has a higher peak than curry, has better longevity stats, ans better per game numbers across the board while being an effective defender most of his career.


LOL.

Nope. Curry peaked higher and has led teams much better.

I'd be sympathetic to your stance if I thought Durant was as good as you just watching the games, but I don't...and he was just playing with weak teams most of his career outside the Warriors.

Unfortunately, I just don't see him as this dominant force, never have, and he's given me no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt as all he's done is lose every year of his career, outside the Warriors, with an in prime all-nba teammate nearly every year.

He's really good at getting 30...if that was the goal of the game...he'd be one of the best, but that is how he plays...he plays like the goal of the game is for him to get 30. Until you wrap your head around there being more to basketball...you'll continue to claim he's the best...while watching him fail to live up to your expectations. So you are then forced to rationalize every single thing.

The results don't match....lot of excuses and a lot of losing.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Nope. Curry peaked higher and has led teams much better.

I'd be sympathetic to your stance if I thought Durant was as good as you just watching the games, but I don't...and he was just playing with weak teams most of his career outside the Warriors.

Unfortunately, I just don't see him as this dominant force, never have, and he's given me no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt as all he's done is lose every year of his career, outside the Warriors, with an in prime all-nba teammate nearly every year.

He's really good at getting 30...if that was the goal of the game...he'd be one of the best, but that is how he plays...he plays like the goal of the game is for him to get 30. Until you wrap your head around there being more to basketball...you'll continue to claim he's the best...while watching him fail to live up to your expectations. So you are then forced to rationalize every single thing.

The results don't match....lot of excuses and a lot of losing.

You're objectively wrong... KD has peaked higher in multiple series... averages 30/8/4 on 67%TS in the finals... has 2 FMVP's and is objectively the better defender.



On one hand you say how amazing Booker plays next to him, and then on the other you pretend KD isn't a team player and only wants stats. You're all over the place and know nothing when it comes to Durant.

He's been forced to play ISO ball on a lot of teams because of teammate deficiencies. This Suns team was literally Booker and KD on offense. Same in OKC and same on BKN last year... atrocious role players. How many teams have won championships with below average role players? Not many, if any ever at all. I'm the one that understands the team dynamic, you're the idiot that thinks 2nd option ppg is what constitutes as "help". You're a fukking buffoon.

[AlternativeAcc.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRRyiCu6pI&t=61s




Durant should've won MVP with the way he carried the Nets and Suns in the regular season on both ends.

[Manny98]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRRyiCu6pI&t=61s




Durant should've won MVP with the way he carried the Nets and Suns in the regular season on both ends.

:roll::roll::roll::roll:

[DMAVS41]

You're objectively wrong... KD has peaked higher in multiple series... averages 30/8/4 on 67%TS in the finals... has 2 FMVP's and is objectively the better defender.



On one hand you say how amazing Booker plays next to him, and then on the other you pretend KD isn't a team player and only wants stats. You're all over the place and know nothing when it comes to Durant.

He's been forced to play ISO ball on a lot of teams because of teammate deficiencies. This Suns team was literally Booker and KD on offense. Same in OKC and same on BKN last year... atrocious role players. How many teams have won championships with below average role players? Not many, if any ever at all. I'm the one that understands the team dynamic, you're the idiot that thinks 2nd option ppg is what constitutes as "help". You're a fukking buffoon.

Disagree on all fronts.

If only there was this thing called playing the games in which the goal is to win....and is a really good measure of the impact players make when they have quality help.

All-nba teammates, in their primes...nearly every year of his career...exactly 0 wins as the leader / best player of his teams.

He's accomplished what Allen Iverson did...except Durant had more help. That is actually what he's proven...everything else is irrelevant. You just lie or pretend to not understand the level of help he's had in his career.

But, please, tell me more about how Durant is better than Jokic and that the Suns were going to win it all. You were saying this shit just a few days ago...and then after a few minutes into one game...you said it was impossible to win...then the Suns won 2 straight and were only down 3 at half...despite Durant doing nothing noteworthy.

Like I said before, I actually just hope he wins next year or at some point...so at least some of the utter bullshit you say about his place in history will be a little less annoying because he'd have actually done something to warrant it.

[SaltyMeatballs]

He's just another Jamal Crawford. Flashy game, can have random crazy scoring spurts, and a handful of games where fat bricks are laid out. He's a huge liability on the floor when his shot isn't falling because he doesn't excel in any other area of the game.