Did LeBron James play the 3 greatest games ever in 2016?

[ArbitraryWater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDViQIwOtY8


Thinking Basketball's Anaysis to 3 games of perfection. Must watch.

[SouBeachTalents]

For the people who would say no, I'm genuinely curious who they'd say had a greater 3 game stretch instead. Jordan is going to be the most obvious response, maybe something from peak Shaq or Hakeem instead.

[ShawkFactory]

Jordan I'm sure has had a better 3 game stretch. But this was probably the best all-around basketball that I've personally seen on such a big stage.

[ArbitraryWater]

Thinking Basketball aka Ben Tayor deems it the greatest 3-game stretch ever.

The video actually helps you understand why. I dont think upon seing the video, Id go for any other stretch.

Ben gives these HMs in the Description:

Other great 3-game stretches from a playoff series:

-Elgin Baylor, 1961: Final 3 games of WCF averaged 41.7 ppg 17.7 rpg but didn't shoot well (49.5% TS)
-Wilt, 1967: G3-G5 ECF: 20-41-9, 20-22-10, and then 29-36-13 (54.4% TS)
-Kareem 1977, G4-G6 WCSF: 43 ppg 18.7 rpg 3 apg (65% TS)
-Bird 1986: G1-G3 Finals averaged 25.7 ppg 10.3 rpg 10.3 apg 4.0 steals 0.7 blks (55% TS)
-Magic 1987: G1-G3 Finals averaged 27.7 ppg 14 apg 8 rpb 2 steals (63% TS)
-Jordan 1991: G1-G3 Finals averaged 32.7 ppg 11.3 apg 8.0 rpg 3 stl 1 bpg (62.5% TS)
-Jordan 1993 :G3-G5 Finals averaged 46.7 ppg 8 rpg 5.7 apg (56.5% TS)
-Hakeem 1995: G1-G3 WCF: 37 ppg 11.7 rpg 4.7 apg 4.0 blocks (60% TS)
-Shaq, 2000: G1-G3 of 2000 Finals averaged 38.7 ppg 18.7 rpg 3.0 apg (64% TS)
-Duncan, 2003: G1-G3 WCF: 35.3 ppg 18.0 rpg 6.0 apg 3.3 blocks (66% TS)
-Wade, 2006: G3-G5 Finals averaged 40.3 ppg 7.7 rpg 3.0 apg 61% TS)
-Kobe 2010: G4-G6 WCF: 35 ppg 8 rpg 7 apg (64% TS)
-Also note that Jerry West in 1965 averaged 46.3 ppg in the series against the Baltimore Bullets (7 apg, 6 rpg), 55% TS

[tpols]

Given the context no.

Their best defensive players Dray out and bogut injured in Game 5..

Game 6 was a blowout from before the 1st quarter ended because they got curry into foul trouble on extremely suspect blocking calls..

And he didn't even shoot well in game 7... ultimately needing Kyrie to hit the biggest shots and outplay Curry H2H.

[ArbitraryWater]

Given the context no.

Their best defensive players Dray out and bogut injured in Game 5..

Game 6 was a blowout from before the 1st quarter ended because they got curry into foul trouble on extremely suspect blocking calls..

And he didn't even shoot well in game 7... ultimately needing Kyrie to hit the biggest shots and outplay Curry H2H.


Watch the video.

[warriorfan]

Given the context no.

Their best defensive players Dray out and bogut injured in Game 5..

Game 6 was a blowout from before the 1st quarter ended because they got curry into foul trouble on extremely suspect blocking calls..

And he didn't even shoot well in game 7... ultimately needing Kyrie to hit the biggest shots and outplay Curry H2H.

Iguodala had back spasms too. He was shuffling around and could barely get up and down the court.


Look at the splits of games 1-4 when warriors were healthy. he struggled to score an efficient 20 ppg

then after Dray suspension, loss of bogut, loss of iguodala (GS’s 3 best defenders) he goes off last 3



Lebron was getting stuffed when Warriors were healthy and took advantage when they lost literally all of their defensive depth

[tpols]

Watch the video.

I watched the games man. He was great in those games but what happened in games 1-4 where his averages were way way worse?

Of course dray being out and bogut getting hurt in his biggest most important game is a very clear context for why he played so much better.

That was the warriors entire paint and rim protection.

How can you deny that?

[Dbrog]

It was definitely one of the best and is definitely Bron's peak performance...I personally don't think he ever even came close to this any other time in his career. I would take Shaq's entire run in 2001 over this because he was completely dominant that entire playoffs to the point that they only lost 1 game. That is easily MDE in modern era for me.

Other than that, Duncan, Hakeem and Jordan's stretches and probably bird's 86 run were all better imo just due to the competition and era they were in. Of those that Ben listed, Wade's 06 is more of an aberration as he received exactly 20156841232652 free throws :lol

[tpols]

Iguodala had back spasms too. He was shuffling around and could barely get up and down the court.


Look at the splits of games 1-4 when warriors were healthy. he struggled to score an efficient 20 ppg

then after Dray suspension, loss of bogut, loss of iguodala (GS’s 3 best defenders) he goes off last 3



Lebron was getting stuffed when Warriors were healthy and took advantage when they lost literally all of their defensive depth

Yup... then he got to feast on guys like mo speights and ezeli who ended up being horrible and basically out of a job after leaving the warriors.

Mo at least had some offensive skill but he was a poor athlete and defender.

[ArbitraryWater]

I watched the games man. He was great in those games but what happened in games 1-4 where his averages were way way worse?

Of course dray being out and bogut getting hurt in his biggest most important game is a very clear context for why he played so much better.

That was the warriors entire paint and rim protection.

How can you deny that?

Bro Bogut played 12 minutes and Green was out 1 game.

Just watch the video. Dont you feel you might learn something? Notice something you didnt notice before?

If it was Kobe id watch too.

[1987_Lakers]

I see people are still triggered about 2016

[warriorfan]

Bro Bogut played 12 minutes and Green was out 1 game.

Just watch the video. Dont you feel you might learn something? Notice something you didnt notice before?

If it was Kobe id watch too.

Or you could go back and watch the series.

Dray got suspended for game 5 and came back as a cucked version of himself in Game 6 as he knew he could get potentially thrown out for breathing on someone at that point point.

Iguodala’s back was messed up and he could hardly move.

You had the rim protection of Varejao and Ezeli behind them

If you look at the circumstances it’s not a mystery why lebron had a monster final 3 games after getting completely stuffed in games 1-4

[Micku]

It was definitely one of the best and is definitely Bron's peak performance...I personally don't think he ever even came close to this any other time in his career. I would take Shaq's entire run in 2001 over this because he was completely dominant that entire playoffs to the point that they only lost 1 game. That is easily MDE in modern era for me.

Other than that, Duncan, Hakeem and Jordan's stretches and probably bird's 86 run were all better imo just due to the competition and era they were in. Of those that Ben listed, Wade's 06 is more of an aberration as he received exactly 20156841232652 free throws :lol

I honestly think that LeBron 2017 and 2018 were better in terms of peak performance. At least offensively. I think he was better defensively with Miami and 2016 Cavs. But more so in Miami.

In terms of 3 greatest games ever? It's subjective. I wouldn't say so, but it is great. We aren't including the regular or first round of the playoffs. And we aren't including stats because there are superior stats out there. MJ usually destroyed teams in the first round of the playoffs. He averaged 40 ppg in a lot of them.

Shaq in the finals had amazing games. Of course, LeBron in 2017 and 2018 are in contention. Kareem games hardly ever get talked about.

[Dbrog]

I honestly think that LeBron 2017 and 2018 were better in terms of peak performance. At least offensively. I think he was better defensively with Miami and 2016 Cavs. But more so in Miami.

In terms of 3 greatest games ever? It's subjective. I wouldn't say so, but it is great. We aren't including the regular or first round of the playoffs. And we aren't including stats because there are superior stats out there. MJ usually destroyed teams in the first round of the playoffs. He averaged 40 ppg in a lot of them.

Shaq in the finals had amazing games. Of course, LeBron in 2017 and 2018 are in contention. Kareem games hardly ever get talked about.

I don't have a problem with those statements. It was kinda odd to see a dude like Bron peak out at that age. I think it really came together because his shot got way more consistent as opposed to earlier in his career...Ben even mentions in the video how Warriors initially would play off him cause of how his shot used to be. Kareem games were definitely insane multiple years, same with Wilt. Just hard to compare those eras cause the game didn't even have many of the same rules.

[SouBeachTalents]

How about just the last 3 games of the Nuggets/Suns series

Booker: 39/6/9 77%TS

Jokic: 41/12/11 68%TS

:roll:

[Dbrog]

How about just the last 3 games of the Nuggets/Suns series

Booker: 39/6/9 77%TS

Jokic: 41/12/11 68%TS

:roll:

:lol Welcome to the new age

[Micku]

How about just the last 3 games of the Nuggets/Suns series

Booker: 39/6/9 77%TS

Jokic: 41/12/11 68%TS

:roll:

I was thinking about that too. Hahaha!

It's insane at the crazy performances they are putting out rn.

But we gotta keep in mind one thing tho. It's hard to compare eras because of the rules and style of play are so different. But Jokic and Booker are playing so beyond their peers atm.

[And1AllDay]

1000000000000% yes

[SATAN]

Yes and it's not even close.

[Full Court]

It was up there, but 2011 was the worst finals choke job ever, so it kind of cancels it out.

[1987_Lakers]

It was up there, but 2011 was the worst finals choke job ever, so it kind of cancels it out.

Wilt was outscored by Don Nelson in the '69 Finals. A 10 ppg player.

[jlip]

I remember watching this video when it first came out. What was also interesting was him mentioning how historically, Lebron's performances in games 5-7 of a series are usually better than his games 1-4.

[Spurs m8]

Let's not forget kyries efforts which were just as good.

Op is a virgin

[RRR3]

Let's not forget kyries efforts which were just as good.

Op is a virgin
Kyrie played one end of the court so no.

[dankok8]

In Game 7 Lebron was just ok honestly. Shot poorly and the block on Igoudala was obviously great but his overall defensive contribution was overrated to me as well. He had a good game overall but far from a historic game or anything.

So it was more like two consecutive great games rather than three.

[GimmeThat]

the name Lebron James played 3 of the greatest game ever in your head

[Spurs m8]

In Game 7 Lebron was just ok honestly. Shot poorly and the block on Igoudala was obviously great but his overall defensive contribution was overrated to me as well. He had a good game overall but far from a historic game or anything.

So it was more like two consecutive great games rather than three.

The iggy block is the most overrated play in history.

Iggy was hobbling down the court with an injured back and JR in front of him holding him up...whilst LeBarry capitalised on that...anyone could have done that

[Full Court]

Wilt was outscored by Don Nelson in the '69 Finals. A 10 ppg player.

And yet LeShrivel has even more choke jobs than Wilt did. :roll:

Truth hurts.

:lebroncry:

[HoopologyPhD]

Bill Russell had multiple 30/30 games in playoffs in a row

[SATAN]

Bill Russell had multiple 30/30 games in playoffs in a row

https://previews.magnoliabox.com/corbis/mb_hero/42-19930936/MUS-FAPC1114_850.jpg

[SouBeachTalents]

The iggy block is the most overrated play in history.

Iggy was hobbling down the court with an injured back and JR in front of him holding him up...whilst LeBarry capitalised on that...anyone could have done that
:oldlol: Absolutely delusional.

[ArbitraryWater]

Iggy was fine in game 7 lol

[HoopologyPhD]

https://previews.magnoliabox.com/corbis/mb_hero/42-19930936/MUS-FAPC1114_850.jpg

Touche, compare that guy to modern plumbers who are fat, disheveled and covered in tats to that gentleman with nice hair, clean uniform and in good shape.

[Lebron23]

One of the greatest finals performance of all time

[kawhileonard2]

Not even close. Didn't even play a center in that series. We see what happens when Lebron plays elite bigs he loses. Dwight, Dirk, KG, Duncan, Jokic to name a few have destroyed Lebron even without HCA.