The Whole Curry > LeBron narrative died Tonight

[8Ball]

For years we had low IQ casual fans yack non stop about everything Curry > LeBron because Curry was able to add Durant to his 73 win team.

Even had 3ball promote Curry all the way into the top 5.

Well now that narrative is officially DEAD like Russian Wagner troops.

Nobody will ever say this ever again. Even the most die hard Warrior / Steph fans won't be able to even mutter it outloud in any sports bar in San Fran.

[1987_Lakers]

To be fair, no serious person ever ranked Curry over LeBron.

What this series did was shut up the trolls who said Curry>LeBron just to troll and get a reaction.

[8Ball]

To be fair, no serious person ever ranked Curry over LeBron.

What this series did was shut up the trolls who said Curry>LeBron just to troll and get a reaction.

This counts as a mini meteor extinction event.

[SaltyMeatballs]

Only people who claimed Curry > LeBron were the biggest casuals on planet earth or the biggest Curry nutriders

[8Ball]

Only people who claimed Curry > LeBron were the biggest casuals on planet earth or the biggest Curry nutriders

Mainly Curry ******gers but they all died last night. Narrative dead.

They have nothing.

[bdonovan]

Oftentimes we adjust our macro sense of a player's ability based on a single playoff outcome. Just look at people's comments after the Warriors won it all last year.

My suggestion: wait a good 3 months after the playoffs end before drawing any conclusion so you're not affected by Recency Bias.

[tpols]

With how klay and poole played, even peak MJ wasn't winning with that.

Give Lebron his credit, but this wasn't really on Curry. Swap casts and you'd see the same result.

[Da_Realist]

Not unless Curry joins another team, convinces a younger superstar to play with him and switch for a new crop of players at the trade deadline. Curry's arc is what normal leaders go through. Build the team up to championship level, dominate for a while and then slowly fade away as the team ages. LeBron does not follow that arc because he bounces as soon as his team starts to decline. So it's an unfair comparison. Curry built a basement dweller into a dynasty. LeBron is playing NBA 2K23.

[RRR3]

Not unless Curry joins another team, convinces a younger superstar to play with him and switch for a new crop of players at the trade deadline. Curry's arc is what normal leaders go through. Build the team up to championship level, dominate for a while and then slowly fade away as the team ages. LeBron does not follow that arc because he bounces as soon as his team starts to decline. So it's an unfair comparison. Curry built a basement dweller into a dynasty. LeBron is playing NBA 2K23.
Tears splattered down your face as you typed this.

[Da_Realist]

4 Teams

[ArbitraryWater]

Not unless Curry joins another team, convinces a younger superstar to play with him and switch for a new crop of players at the trade deadline. Curry's arc is what normal leaders go through. Build the team up to championship level, dominate for a while and then slowly fade away as the team ages. LeBron does not follow that arc because he bounces as soon as his team starts to decline. So it's an unfair comparison. Curry built a basement dweller into a dynasty. LeBron is playing NBA 2K23.

Could it have to do that Currys team was really good through the draft and there was no need to change it up, especially since Curry was not a GOAT caliber player to begin his career but in Monta Ellis debates?

This is the first time in his career that it looks like his team is not up for it and even then I think its overblown. Poole had a down year, he was great the other 3 seasons. They still have Wiggins. DiVicenzo. Draymond. They got a squad.

[paksat]

as if this warriors team is some monster squad with the number 1 seed or something

you're still not allowed to touch lebron, curry doesn't stiff arm his way to championships chief.

[And1AllDay]

Not unless Curry joins another team, convinces a younger superstar to play with him and switch for a new crop of players at the trade deadline. Curry's arc is what normal leaders go through. Build the team up to championship level, dominate for a while and then slowly fade away as the team ages. LeBron does not follow that arc because he bounces as soon as his team starts to decline. So it's an unfair comparison. Curry built a basement dweller into a dynasty. LeBron is playing NBA 2K23.

3baLLLLLLLL is too shook to use his main and i love it

bran scares him :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

as if this warriors team is some monster squad with the number 1 seed or something

you're still not allowed to touch lebron, curry doesn't stiff arm his way to championships chief.

tissue?

[Phoenix]

3baLLLLLLLL is too shook to use his main and i love it

bran scares him :oldlol:

3ball would have to be a complete psychotic( which, well I couldn't argue otherwise :lol) if Da Realist was one of his alts. Completely different posting style and tone...

[kawhileonard2]

Not unless Curry joins another team, convinces a younger superstar to play with him and switch for a new crop of players at the trade deadline. Curry's arc is what normal leaders go through. Build the team up to championship level, dominate for a while and then slowly fade away as the team ages. LeBron does not follow that arc because he bounces as soon as his team starts to decline. So it's an unfair comparison. Curry built a basement dweller into a dynasty. LeBron is playing NBA 2K23.

This and Curry still has as many titles in less years in the league.

[Im so nba'd out]

Curry and Lebron guy here…probably the only one on the entire site that likes both players. It was never a debate. Lebron is better but if curry would of won this series it would have been a debate.

Warriors steam rollin’ the Cavs after getting KD doesn’t really count because Durant pretty much neutralizes LeBron’s impact by replicating his statline. The only time that beta plays at his absolute best is vs Lebron or Kobe. Kd in a game vs Lebron is the only time where he takes his game to another level.

I did a long breakdown post about this years ago but this site deletes old post so it’s gone…. Pretty much the warriors getting durant is the equivalent of someone starting a fight then pulling out a gun. Kd was the gun. Once they got that it was no longer a fair fight… The 2nd and 3rd best player (kawhi wasn’t in terminator mode yet) merged on the same team to take down the best player. KD’s ability to play Lebron to a stalemate stat wise in a game is remarkable. The warriors signed the 1 piece of kryponite Lebron had in the entire league https://i.postimg.cc/G2SX8Xyv/IMG-9362.gif….Lebron would of got his ass beat everytime he went to the finals….it pains me to say it but it’s the truth. Kd and steph would of mercilessly beat his ass every….single…..time….. for what he did to them in the finals individually.



Curry and Lebron are both better than KD btw but I respect kd’s game in the warrior system where he gets to play 1 on 1 all game with no help defense….he doesn’t have to be a leader…..steph takes all the pressure off him in the regular season and carries the team…and he gets to steal all the credit in the finals from curry being warned down from dragging gsw through the western conference playoffs+reg season…he really had the perfect situation….. damn he’s an idiot for leaving :oldlol:




Edit I said it once and I’ll say it 1000x times more. That 3-1 collapse was so devastating, they would have never beat Lebron James in a series again without KD. He psychologically scarred them. But, lucky for them they went and got gun….

[ImKobe]

So the Curry v. Bran narrative died because Bran beat him with much better help (arguably the best player in the NBA in AD on his side & a deeper roster) despite playing worse than Steph in almost all of the games?

I'm sure you counted the 2017 & 2018 Finals the same for Steph.

[RRR3]

So the Curry v. Bran narrative died because Bran beat him with much better help (arguably the best player in the NBA in AD on his side & a deeper roster) despite playing worse than Steph in almost all of the games?

I'm sure you counted the 2017 & 2018 Finals the same for Steph.
AYDEE argyooble da bezt playur in da NBA hee hee heee heee DURRRRRR

[Full Court]

Curry outplayed Lebron that entire series. Bronie just had waaaayyyyyyyyy more help.

Lebron's not better than Curry....much less Jordan.

Suck on that one and cry for a while, Canadian loser. :lol

[ImKobe]

AYDEE argyooble da bezt playur in da NBA hee hee heee heee DURRRRRR

This is 2017 & 2018 reversed. Idc where you rank AD really but he was the best player in that series and the reason why the Warriors struggled on both sides of the court.

[Phoenix]

Impossible to have a nuanced discussion on the topic on this site of all things, but this series didn't settle or change anything that wasn't already set. Neither Lebron or Steph had all-time series in general or based off their own respective histories, and neither are chiefly to credit or blame for the outcome. The single biggest issue over the 6 games is the Warriors didnt have an effective interior neutralizer for AD, which makes next series against the Nuggets very interesting

[8Ball]

Not unless Curry joins another team, convinces a younger superstar to play with him and switch for a new crop of players at the trade deadline. Curry's arc is what normal leaders go through. Build the team up to championship level, dominate for a while and then slowly fade away as the team ages. LeBron does not follow that arc because he bounces as soon as his team starts to decline. So it's an unfair comparison. Curry built a basement dweller into a dynasty. LeBron is playing NBA 2K23.

Wrong.


2015 Bron was better.
2016 bron was better
2017 bron was better
2018 bron was better
2021 Bron was better
2023 Bron was better



Every single time they matched up above Bron was clearly the better player.


And even this post of yours admits Bron was better.

[8Ball]

Curry outplayed Lebron that entire series. Bronie just had waaaayyyyyyyyy more help.

Lebron's not better than Curry....much less Jordan.

Suck on that one and cry for a while, Canadian loser. :lol

Who's crying?


You had an absolute Jordan poole level meltdown yesterday while swallowing that lump of shit.

[SouBeachTalents]

Curry outplayed Lebron that entire series. Bronie just had waaaayyyyyyyyy more help.

Lebron's not better than Curry....much less Jordan.

Suck on that one and cry for a while, Canadian loser. :lol
Tough night for this guy.

[8Ball]

So the Curry v. Bran narrative died because Bran beat him with much better help (arguably the best player in the NBA in AD on his side & a deeper roster) despite playing worse than Steph in almost all of the games?

I'm sure you counted the 2017 & 2018 Finals the same for Steph.

Bron was better in 2017 and 2018.


Nobody even talked about Steph for those 2 finals. It was all Durant.

[8Ball]

Tough night for this guy.

He cried the entire game thread. Tried going to sleep, and woke up crying again into his mom's tampax.

[paksat]

tissue?

fuming are you?

[Hey Yo]

This is 2017 & 2018 reversed. Idc where you rank AD really but he was the best player in that series and the reason why the Warriors struggled on both sides of the court.

AD didn't cause GS to miss WIDE OPEN 3pt shots Friday night.

[Axe]

fuming are you?
Where's mah eggs at? :rant

[8Ball]

This is 2017 & 2018 reversed. Idc where you rank AD really but he was the best player in that series and the reason why the Warriors struggled on both sides of the court.

Wrong.

Lakers barely won 43 games this year and was a 7th seed team, meanwhile 2017 Warriors won 67 (1st seed) and is considered the greatest team of all time.

Lakers were underdogs against Memphis and underdogs against Warriors.

[Axe]

Who's crying?


You had an absolute Jordan poole level meltdown yesterday while swallowing that lump of shit.


Tough night for this guy.


He cried the entire game thread. Tried going to sleep, and woke up crying again into his mom's tampax.
:oldlol:

[NBAGOAT]

yea it wasnt a great series from curry but he got some pathetic help this series outside wiggins and dray, this series didnt prove anything. Lebron always had a better career because of longevity and a bit better peak too.

Warriors have the largest payroll, their talent on paper is fine but you're not winning a series when your next 2nd and 3rd option combine for less than 25ppg on like 45ts% and are hurting you defensively too. People on reddit are calling poole the worst player in the league lol.

[ImKobe]

Wrong.

Lakers barely won 43 games this year and was a 7th seed team, meanwhile 2017 Warriors won 67 (1st seed) and is considered the greatest team of all time.

Lakers were underdogs against Memphis and underdogs against Warriors.

Lakers had the best record in the West post-ASB with this new team, and that's with Lebron missing half the games.

Lakers were slight underdogs in the first 2 rounds and are a slight underdog in the WCF because they don't have HCA, but they're clearly the best overall team left in these POs. A healthy AD-Bran combo is still the best 1-2 in the league and they have the shooters & depth needed to win it all. Currently 4 Lakers are averaging 15+ ppg in the POs so this team is really good & you know it.

[1987_Lakers]

Lakers were underdogs against Memphis and underdogs against Warriors.

Why does this upset the haters so much? :oldlol:

[8Ball]

Lakers had the best record in the West post-ASB with this new team, and that's with Lebron missing half the games.

Lakers were slight underdogs in the first 2 rounds and are a slight underdog in the WCF because they don't have HCA, but they're clearly the best overall team left in these POs. A healthy AD-Bran combo is still the best 1-2 in the league and they have the shooters & depth needed to win it all. Currently 4 Lakers are averaging 15+ ppg in the POs so this team is really good & you know it.

So what you are saying is that it is NOTHING like 2017 and 2018 because Lakers were UNDERDOGS in 2023 meanwhile Warriors were NEVER underdogs in 2017 and 2018.


Their post all star break "record" was about as good as a 56 win team. Just like the 2017 Warriors!

[8Ball]

Why does this upset the haters so much? :oldlol:

This kobe fan is trying to compare the 2023, 43 win Lakers that were underdogs all 2023 playoffs, to the 2017 and 2018 Warriors


https://media.tenor.com/0yi68Ri2JS4AAAAC/jameson-laugh.gif

[tpols]

If we swapped Lebron and Curry and let Curry play on the Lakers and Lebron play on the Warriors with a bed wetting klay, poole, and dray this series probably would've been a sweep in Currys favor.

You guys are hypocrites for chastising Curry for playing with KD but then ignore Lebron playing with AD and a bunch of other All Star talents.

[8Ball]

If we swapped Lebron and Curry and let Curry play on the Lakers and Lebron play on the Warriors with a bed wetting klay, poole, and dray this series probably would've been a sweep in Currys favor.

You guys are hypocrites for chastising Curry for playing with KD but then ignore Lebron playing with AD and a bunch of other All Star talents.

Ok let's swap Curry and LeBron for all matchups since you just opened that door.


2015
2016
2017
2018
and 2023


LeBron winning everything between 2015-2018 and series probably goes 7 in 2023 with a Warriors win.


And my OP would be even more correct. Thank you.

[8Ball]

Oftentimes we adjust our macro sense of a player's ability based on a single playoff outcome. Just look at people's comments after the Warriors won it all last year.

My suggestion: wait a good 3 months after the playoffs end before drawing any conclusion so you're not affected by Recency Bias.

We had 7 years of data sampling. This is no recency bias.

[ImKobe]

So what you are saying is that it is NOTHING like 2017 and 2018 because Lakers were UNDERDOGS in 2023 meanwhile Warriors were NEVER underdogs in 2017 and 2018.


Their post all star break "record" was about as good as a 56 win team. Just like the 2017 Warriors!

They went 16-7 post-ASB (57-win pace) with Lebron missing 13 games and with Dlo missing 9 as well. That's pretty damn good. They have the best defense in these POs and 5 guys averaging 10+ ppg. Lebron has been coasting for the most part and AD hasn't needed to score as much as usual and they're marching through the Western Conference like it's nothing.

[ArbitraryWater]

Lakers had the best record in the West post-ASB with this new team, and that's with Lebron missing half the games.

Lakers were slight underdogs in the first 2 rounds and are a slight underdog in the WCF because they don't have HCA, but they're clearly the best overall team left in these POs. A healthy AD-Bran combo is still the best 1-2 in the league and they have the shooters & depth needed to win it all. Currently 4 Lakers are averaging 15+ ppg in the POs so this team is really good & you know it.


Theyre the underdogs, and theres nothing you can change about it.

[8Ball]

They went 16-7 post-ASB (57-win pace) with Lebron missing 13 games and with Dlo missing 9 as well. That's pretty damn good. They have the best defense in these POs and 5 guys averaging 10+ ppg. Lebron has been coasting for the most part and AD hasn't needed to score as much as usual and they're marching through the Western Conference like it's nothing.

Even with all that, all the odds makers put Lakers as underdogs pre series and all the experts overwhelmingly picked golden state.

I am right.

[ImKobe]

Theyre the underdogs, and theres nothing you can change about it.

You know damn well they're no true underdogs when the line is that close without the Lakers having HCA.

[kawhileonard2]

Why does this upset the haters so much? :oldlol:

And got swept by Denver

[ImKobe]

And got swept by Denver

But they were slight underdogs going into the series so getting swept was expected, right? :kobe:

[kawhileonard2]

But they were slight underdogs going into the series so getting swept was expected, right? :kobe:

According to them. But lakers were stacked. They had same odds as Denver to win it https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2023_preseason_odds.html

[warriorfan]

Op died after bron got swept again

[Walk on Water]

Op died after bron got swept again



Now the series becomes way less meaningful since Lebron lost anyway.

[kawhileonard2]

Now the series becomes way less meaningful since Lebron lost anyway.

And swept at that

[Full Court]

And swept at that

Like a dirty chimney.

[8Ball]

For years we had low IQ casual fans yack non stop about everything Curry > LeBron because Curry was able to add Durant to his 73 win team.

Even had 3ball promote Curry all the way into the top 5.

Well now that narrative is officially DEAD like Russian Wagner troops.

Nobody will ever say this ever again. Even the most die hard Warrior / Steph fans won't be able to even mutter it outloud in any sports bar in San Fran.

:applause:


Every time I re-read one of my threads its as if a basketball genius wrote it.


Thanks for the bump.

[Axe]

:applause:


Every time I re-read one of my threads its as if a basketball genius wrote it.


Thanks for the bump.
Casuals who hate him so much keep on bumping it from time to time for the sake of proving that king kong makes their lives so pathetic. :oldlol:

[Full Court]

Curry outplayed Lebron that entire series. Bronie just had waaaayyyyyyyyy more help.

Lebron's not better than Curry....much less Jordan.

Suck on that one and cry for a while, Canadian loser. :lol

:applause: Nailed it.

[kawhileonard2]

Curry as many titles as Lebron in less years and beat him head to head more.

[Axe]

Curry as many titles as Lebron in less years and beat him head to head more.
The braindead sore loser above you has erectile dysfunction.

[kawhileonard2]

The braindead sore loser above you has erectile dysfunction.

I'm speaking facts not feelings.