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Mask the Embiid
05-13-2023, 11:05 AM
https://youtu.be/BzIpFk_Mt9c


Customer gets in argument with gas station clerk over $4 and pulls out gun.Gas station clerk uses button to lock all the doors. 3 other customers are locked inside with angry customer. He tells the clerk if he doesn’t let him out right now he will shoot the other random customers in the gas station. Random customers hear this and panic and bang on safeglass begging the clerk to just let them out. Gas station clerk calls his bluff knowing that he can’t be hurt. Angry customer shoots all 3 customers killing one.


What should happen to the gas station employee who was behind bulletproof glass?

iamgine
05-13-2023, 01:02 PM
He could be liable but in his defense there are things to consider. Like how much time passed after the threat was made and the gunman shooting everybody. From what I read it seemed like it happened quick and after another customer provoked the gunman by saying "man he ain't gonna shoot us".

Patrick Chewing
05-13-2023, 01:39 PM
Nothing should happen to the employee. The only one responsible is the person who pulled the trigger.

SouBeachTalents
05-13-2023, 02:54 PM
This dude really opened fire on random people and killed somebody over $4. And I agree with the guy in the video, the clerk should be held responsible, you can't just lock innocent people into your store during a dangerous situation like that. The shooter is obv ultimately at fault, but the clerks refusal to let the other people leave the store absolutely factored into them getting shot and one of them getting killed.

KNOW1EDGE
05-13-2023, 07:47 PM
The clerk should be charged with holding people against their will or something.

But obviously the gunman is at fault for the shooting and loss of life.

Jasper
05-13-2023, 08:22 PM
Nothing should happen to the employee. The only one responsible is the person who pulled the trigger.

this is true ...
but the people that were shot and survived , how do they sue a guy that shot them over $4 ??
Do they split 3 dollars..

The guy that pulled the trigger should be hung... put him in a court yard and let him swing so others know it should not be done:confusedshrug:

What about the guy that was killed ... his family sues' for the other dollar ?

MrFonzworth
05-13-2023, 09:57 PM
Nothing should happen to the employee. The only one responsible is the person who pulled the trigger.

Awful take

Patrick Chewing
05-13-2023, 10:10 PM
Awful take

You're not understanding. The shooter is who caused the clerk to lock the doors in the first place. Everything in life has a beginning. A spark that leads to every action henceforth. The clerk does not lock the doors if the shooter does not decide to try and rob the place.

This mentality of blaming innocent people and not the actual perpetrator has got to stop.

highwhey
05-13-2023, 10:44 PM
You're not understanding. The shooter is who caused the clerk to lock the doors in the first place. Everything in life has a beginning. A spark that leads to every action henceforth. The clerk does not lock the doors if the shooter does not decide to try and rob the place.

This mentality of blaming innocent people and not the actual perpetrator has got to stop.

you're exactly the type of coward to lock people inside a building with an active shooter, just like that cashier. just because the shooter decided to rob a place with a gun, doesn't mean you have to make bad decisions as well. don't take people's freedom away in a situation that can result in a loss of life. like mrfonz said, awful take.

Patrick Chewing
05-13-2023, 10:51 PM
you're exactly the type of coward to lock people inside a building with an active shooter, just like that cashier. just because the shooter decided to rob a place with a gun, doesn't mean you have to make bad decisions as well. don't take people's freedom away in a situation that can result in a loss of life. like mrfonz said, awful take.

But bad decisions, incorrect decisions, and mistakes are always made in life. You guys are living in a black and white mentality and that's why you're getting angry with what I've said to the point of insulting me. You're too addicted to pointing the finger at someone and destroying them and not realizing that none of us knows what we would have done in the same situation.

I reiterate, we make mistakes on a daily basis. Some mistakes are miniscule, and some mistakes lead to tragedies. But I stand by my point that the gunman is the one who started this chain reaction of events. Without the gunman in this scenario, we would not be talking about this story today. Actions have consequences. The gunman is the one who decided to take those people's freedom away that day, not the clerk. In my opinion, your take is the awful one. But I digress.

highwhey
05-13-2023, 11:03 PM
But bad decisions, incorrect decisions, and mistakes are always made in life. You guys are living in a black and white mentality and that's why you're getting angry with what I've said to the point of insulting me. You're too addicted to pointing the finger at someone and destroying them and not realizing that none of us knows what we would have done in the same situation.

I reiterate, we make mistakes on a daily basis. Some mistakes are miniscule, and some mistakes lead to tragedies. But I stand by my point that the gunman is the one who started this chain reaction of events. Without the gunman in this scenario, we would not be talking about this story today. Actions have consequences. The gunman is the one who decided to take those people's freedom away that day, not the clerk. In my opinion, your take is the awful one. But I digress.

wth. no one is arguing the gunman started this and is the most culpable. literally no one. you're arguing a tangential point that no one else seems to be opposing. the cashier was apparently at no risk for himself...but locking in the customers put them at even greater risk. it's a demonstration of selfishness and cowardice because he was protected behind the glass. he's partially responsible for the death and injuries. whether he receives criminal charges or not will be up to the discretion of the AG, but at a minimum a tort lawsuit is incoming.

SATAN
05-14-2023, 03:41 AM
Yet another thread proving Gastrick Chewing is a terrible person.

FultzNationRISE
05-14-2023, 11:16 AM
Damn, thats like a real life installment of Saw.

nightlight
05-14-2023, 12:55 PM
wth. no one is arguing the gunman started this and is the most culpable. literally no one. you're arguing a tangential point that no one else seems to be opposing. the cashier was apparently at no risk for himself...but locking in the customers put them at even greater risk. it's a demonstration of selfishness and cowardice because he was protected behind the glass. he's partially responsible for the death and injuries. whether he receives criminal charges or not will be up to the discretion of the AG, but at a minimum a tort lawsuit is incoming.

You understand the law almost as poorly as you do women. :roll:

imdaman99
05-14-2023, 01:46 PM
This guy sacrificed others lives just because he knew he was safe. Sounds like the government sending soldiers out to war, except soldiers signed up for it and these random dudes did not. Sad situation, the clerk is the average guy willing to let others die as long as he was fine.

KNOW1EDGE
05-14-2023, 02:00 PM
This guy sacrificed others lives just because he knew he was safe. Sounds like the government sending soldiers out to war, except soldiers signed up for it and these random dudes did not. Sad situation, the clerk is the average guy willing to let others die as long as he was fine.

The clerk valued his boss’s merchandise over human life. He will def be sued in civil court.

He knew he was safe behind the glass, and he cared more about $4 that didn’t belong to him than he did the lives of 3 people. Truly bizarre.

MrFonzworth
05-14-2023, 02:14 PM
You're not understanding. The shooter is who caused the clerk to lock the doors in the first place. Everything in life has a beginning. A spark that leads to every action henceforth. The clerk does not lock the doors if the shooter does not decide to try and rob the place.

This mentality of blaming innocent people and not the actual perpetrator has got to stop.

Awful take

Jasper
05-14-2023, 06:29 PM
I think its great the clerk can lock the perpetrator in.

But if he opened the door for 10 seconds would the robber been able to escape or the innocent bystanders been able to get out ?

If you can lock a villain in , why couldn't the store have sirens / flashing lights and store lights turned off , ,, to really light up this villain.
then maybe allow the customers out ??

why didn't the clerk draw a gun kill the bandit , and save the customers ???

what about store's rules of procedures ???

BigKobeFan
05-15-2023, 02:25 PM
An intervening superseding cause breaks the chain of events started by the defendant's act and cuts the defendant off from criminal responsibility.

https://casetext.com/case/people-v-brady-8; 129 Cal.App.4th 1314

Jasper
05-15-2023, 10:13 PM
An intervening superseding cause breaks the chain of events started by the defendant's act and cuts the defendant off from criminal responsibility.



say what https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqyixwqiCag

BigKobeFan
05-15-2023, 10:41 PM
say what https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqyixwqiCag

Not only are u old and stupid...you are incompetent and impotent. Learn what it means. Im not here to teach u

Jasper
05-16-2023, 10:21 AM
Not only are u old and stupid...you are incompetent and impotent. Learn what it means. Im not here to teach u

for a 10 year old your pretty smart

Patrick Chewing
05-16-2023, 11:42 AM
for a 10 year old your pretty smart


:roll:

Axe
05-17-2023, 07:27 PM
Yet another thread proving Gastrick Chewing is a terrible person.
:milton

Nanners
05-19-2023, 04:52 AM
Insane that so many people are blaming the clerk, saying that the clerk was willing to let people die... no you fvcking idiots, the shooter was willing to let people die.

The shooter should probably get the electric chair, the clerk should probably get a new job

Patrick Chewing
05-19-2023, 10:40 AM
Insane that so many people are blaming the clerk, saying that the clerk was willing to let people die... no you fvcking idiots, the shooter was willing to let people die.

The shooter should probably get the electric chair, the clerk should probably get a new job

These people are brainwashed to defend the criminal and blame the victims. In their world, the criminal should be allowed to rob you, rape you, kill you, etc. If you fight back, you become worse than the devil.

highwhey
05-19-2023, 11:04 AM
These people are brainwashed to defend the criminal and blame the victims. In their world, the criminal should be allowed to rob you, rape you, kill you, etc. If you fight back, you become worse than the devil.

i don't think anyone is defending the shooter dude. he's obviously the one the who started all this shit and deserves to be locked up for life. but the clerk should not be locking in people in the store while there's a shooter.

SATAN
05-19-2023, 08:30 PM
These people are brainwashed to defend the criminal and blame the victims.

The literal biggest idiot on Earth at it again.