View Full Version : NBA lottery tonight at 7. Who gets the next potential GOAT? Run the simulator.
Kblaze8855
05-15-2023, 01:40 PM
Whatever he is that’s pretty close to the expectation. This is properly weighted
https://www.tankathon.com/
Tell us who wins your first try. I got:
OKC
Dallas
Hornets
Spurs
Id be fine with that. Just keep that kid from the Pistons(who will probably win).
theman93
05-15-2023, 01:44 PM
I only looked where Orlando was drafting my first spin and we ended with the third pick. Then I spun it again twice and both times we ended up with the 1st pick.
:djparty:djparty:djparty
90sgoat
05-15-2023, 01:45 PM
Detroit
Houston
San Antonio
Charlotte
Detroit is the odds favorite right?
Honestly, if the draft is rigged, I could see it ending up with Detroit, they have been bad for a while now. Spurs and Pop would be just the thing with another big man hall of famer.
Or maybe Jordan finally gets a draft that he can't **** up?
As a Mavs fan, I expect Mavs to sell their draft pick for a trade regardless. That's the most interesting for me.
Kblaze8855
05-15-2023, 01:48 PM
Who could Dallas flip the number one pick for who justify not finding out if Wembanyama and a 24 year old Luka end up the greatest tandem of the modern era?
Dame?
DMAVS41
05-15-2023, 01:52 PM
Who could Dallas flip the number one pick for who justify not finding out if Wembanyama and a 24 year old Luka end up the greatest tandem of the modern era?
Dame?
Dame at his age isn't worth nearly enough at this point if they got the first pick.
iamgine
05-15-2023, 01:54 PM
I had a dream that Hornets took Wembanyama with the 23rd pick in the 2021 NBA draft.
So I'm sure it's gonna be Hornets #1
Kblaze8855
05-15-2023, 01:57 PM
That’s what I was thinking. You need somebody somewhat young and proven, but not so proven the team can’t part with him for another super prospect. What do you think New Orleans says if you ask for Zion and CJ McCollum for all your overpaid role players and #1?
Would Dallas win it all with a healthy Luka/Zion/CJ core inside the 3 years they would have to do it? Like half the people who talk about him already seem resigned to the fact that Wemby won’t be healthy either.
90sgoat
05-15-2023, 01:58 PM
Who could Dallas flip the number one pick for who justify not finding out if Wembanyama and a 24 year old Luka end up the greatest tandem of the modern era?
Dame?
I'm thinking more that any top 5 is an instaflip anyway and in general, I doubt they'll keep their pick. They know this is their last chance with Luka. He isn't waiting around with Wemba, who is essentially the same player as Zingis, someone Luka disliked.
If I was Mavs and I got a high pick, maybe not top pick, I'd look to trade for Gobert. A top 5-10 pick for Gobert, plus some future picks would be a good trade.
Kblaze8855
05-15-2023, 02:20 PM
I'm thinking more that any top 5 is an instaflip anyway and in general, I doubt they'll keep their pick. They know this is their last chance with Luka. He isn't waiting around with Wemba, who is essentially the same player as Zingis, someone Luka disliked.
If I was Mavs and I got a high pick, maybe not top pick, I'd look to trade for Gobert. A top 5-10 pick for Gobert, plus some future picks would be a good trade.
But that’s you doing your personal thing and valuing him based on your projection when it’s been made clear, you aren’t a fan. You can’t operate that way as a front office. It doesn’t matter what you think. His value is where the basketball world sets it. And there are people who contribute heavily to such decisions, who think he’s the most frightening prospect they’ve seen in their lives.
Can’t sell low on a guy like that even if you’re right. You just be right quietly and shoot for the moon in the trade the way the rockets should have with Ralph Sampson. By all means trade him if you don’t buy the hype. But you need to rake someone over the coals in the process. You need to be on the line with other teams acting like you have Hakeem Olajordan for sale.
SlimReaper
05-15-2023, 02:44 PM
Utah
Bulls
Spurs
Wizards
Detroit
Wemba + Markkanen + Kessler would be an interesting front court. Could even make Xiao forget 2D..
3ba11
05-15-2023, 02:46 PM
Shaq and Barkley aren't as high on Wembanyama.. Me neither. I'm sure he'll be good but the next big thing I'm not so sure
DMAVS41
05-15-2023, 02:47 PM
That’s what I was thinking. You need somebody somewhat young and proven, but not so proven the team can’t part with him for another super prospect. What do you think New Orleans says if you ask for Zion and CJ McCollum for all your overpaid role players and #1?
Would Dallas win it all with a healthy Luka/Zion/CJ core inside the 3 years they would have to do it? Like half the people who talk about him already seem resigned to the fact that Wemby won’t be healthy either.
Is Kyrie still on the Mavs in this scenario? I'm assuming not. Something like that is closer, but man...Zion's value isn't great right now...he's on the books for 4 years at big numbers and CJ is on the books for 3 years at relatively big numbers.
Zion has hardly played in 4 years now...most guys that miss that much early on, aren't healthy the rest of their careers.
I could see the Mavs doing that, but I wouldn't do it.
I haven't thought through all the trade potentials, but initially...I think I'd rather just draft him and see what you have. Maybe some type of 3 team deal involving Jaylen Brown and Smart if they lose to the Heat or something....if it allowed us to dump Hardaway/Bertans in the process as well.
Charlie Sheen
05-15-2023, 02:50 PM
Who could Dallas flip the number one pick for who justify not finding out if Wembanyama and a 24 year old Luka end up the greatest tandem of the modern era?
Dame?
Strange to me how times are changing... the nba is valuing picks and pick swaps more in trade and the nfl is moving the other way... panthers included a real good wr to move up to #1.
90sgoat
05-15-2023, 03:12 PM
But that’s you doing your personal thing and valuing him based on your projection when it’s been made clear, you aren’t a fan. You can’t operate that way as a front office. It doesn’t matter what you think. His value is where the basketball world sets it. And there are people who contribute heavily to such decisions, who think he’s the most frightening prospect they’ve seen in their lives.
Can’t sell low on a guy like that even if you’re right. You just be right quietly and shoot for the moon in the trade the way the rockets should have with Ralph Sampson. By all means trade him if you don’t buy the hype. But you need to rake someone over the coals in the process. You need to be on the line with other teams acting like you have Hakeem Olajordan for sale.
Yes?
Gobert and some pieces would be a fine haul.
Luka is what they hope Wemba is.
Ant and Gobert for Webma?
90sgoat
05-15-2023, 03:43 PM
Utah
Bulls
Spurs
Wizards
Detroit
Wemba + Markkanen + Kessler would be an interesting front court. Could even make Xiao forget 2D..
Jazz might trade him for Luka according to rumors, but Mavs won't do it imo.
Kblaze8855
05-15-2023, 03:57 PM
Nah you can’t do that unless he tells someone he’s not coming back. Luka is on a level where if he ever wins he’s gonna be considered top 15 or 20 and he’s probably about as good as he’s ever gonna be already. It’s like 03 Kobe. Couldn’t get away with saying he’s top ____ all time but when you say it now we compare 03 Kobe to peak legends and nobody sees an issue with it.
Carbine
05-15-2023, 04:02 PM
Of the teams with more than a 5 percent chance these are the best scenarios for him.
1 Orlando best young duo in the league
2 Charlotte lamelo makes this interesting
3 Detroit I like their young core actually, just needs to grow
4 Houston decent young core
5 Portland Dame is getting old
6 Indy meh
7 Spurs roster is bare, not a free agent destination
8 Washington don't trust management
highwhey
05-15-2023, 04:16 PM
if dallas gets the #1, this shit is rigged like a M****a
Kblaze8855
05-15-2023, 04:40 PM
Just took me two attempts to get Dallas. I got Dallas, Houston, Pistons and Hornets. I’d be ok with that if not for the brutal tank Dallas did at the end there. I’d hate to see it rewarded so…they’ll probably win.
ArbitraryWater
05-15-2023, 04:43 PM
I just got spurs twice straight lol
also mavs twice within first 12 or so
mavs lets get it
Kblaze8855
05-15-2023, 09:49 PM
I just got spurs twice straight lol
also mavs twice within first 12 or so
mavs lets get it
Im only now realizing there’s a good chance he goes somewhere in Texas. 3 teams in the race and 2 in the top 3 in odds.
HoopologyPhD
05-16-2023, 09:07 AM
Spurs fits the narratives
Im Still Ballin
05-16-2023, 03:23 PM
First simulation:
1. Detroit
2. Houston
3. Indiana
4. Utah
5. San Antonio
6. Charlotte
7. Portland
8. Orlando
9. Washington
10. Dallas
Im Still Ballin
05-16-2023, 03:28 PM
I'd love to see Wemby on Houston, Indiana, or San Antonio. Dallas would be awesome with Luka, but that's such an unlikely outcome.
A Wemby, Sengun, and Jabari frontcourt is exciting as hell. Victor and Jabari are the perfect guys to surround Alperen with.
Smook A.
05-16-2023, 03:29 PM
Houston is due for another legendary big
theman93
05-16-2023, 03:55 PM
I'd love to see Wemby on Houston, Indiana, or San Antonio. Dallas would be awesome with Luka, but that's such an unlikely outcome.
A Wemby, Sengun, and Jabari frontcourt is exciting as hell. Victor and Jabari are the perfect guys to surround Alperen with.
A Wemby, Paolo, and Franz frontcourt is even more exciting.
Kblaze8855
05-16-2023, 04:11 PM
Houston is due for another legendary big
I feel like at this point if Houston or Orlando wins it’s a “Can’t keep getting away with it!” situation. A lot of younger fans wouldn’t get why but I’m sure you do.
tontoz
05-16-2023, 04:30 PM
Of the teams with more than a 5 percent chance these are the best scenarios for him.
1 Orlando best young duo in the league
2 Charlotte lamelo makes this interesting
3 Detroit I like their young core actually, just needs to grow
4 Houston decent young core
5 Portland Dame is getting old
6 Indy meh
7 Spurs roster is bare, not a free agent destination
8 Washington don't trust management
:lol
Was just posting about this in another thread.
Duderonomy
05-16-2023, 04:33 PM
I'm not expecting the Pistons to win but I'll watch the sh*% show regardless.
90sgoat
05-16-2023, 08:04 PM
Lol, Woj saying that Wemba is the best draft prospect ever.
RoseCity07
05-16-2023, 08:06 PM
Anyone got a link to the draft lottery?
90sgoat
05-16-2023, 08:08 PM
Anyone got a link to the draft lottery?
https://1stream.eu/title-game/nba-draft-lottery-live-stream/7897?sport=basketball
RoseCity07
05-16-2023, 08:17 PM
Thanks. I have a feeling it's gonna be a team with no shot. Watch Toronto win this. Blazers 10 percent chance feels like 1 in a million.
90sgoat
05-16-2023, 08:20 PM
Damn lol.
Mavs 10.
90sgoat
05-16-2023, 08:21 PM
The fact that they don't show the actual lottery is sus.
ImKobe
05-16-2023, 08:26 PM
**** off Spurs
90sgoat
05-16-2023, 08:27 PM
Lol, these narratives.
Rigged.
snipes12
05-16-2023, 08:30 PM
Its rigged , well will see how the spurs handle victor.
Melo x brandon miller is an awesome duo
999Guy
05-16-2023, 08:30 PM
Giving Pop a foreign highly skilled big man. GG league.
Kblaze8855
05-16-2023, 08:30 PM
Nice. Spurs are a respectable franchise. They’re due.
RoseCity07
05-16-2023, 08:30 PM
Man **** this bullshit. Spurs got rewarded for tanking all year.
Proctor
05-16-2023, 08:31 PM
:roll:
highwhey
05-16-2023, 08:34 PM
eat shit Mavs :roll:
r0drig0lac
05-16-2023, 08:35 PM
:banana::rockon:
highwhey
05-16-2023, 08:37 PM
Nice. Spurs are a respectable franchise. They’re due.
Pop will maximize his potential better than anyone else. Good for the kid.
90sgoat
05-16-2023, 08:39 PM
eat shit Mavs :roll:
What do you get for a top 10 pick these days?
Gobert?
highwhey
05-16-2023, 08:40 PM
What do you get for a top 10 pick these days?
Gobert?
idk but dallas fans are fuming they missed the playoffs for a 10th pick
fourkicks44
05-16-2023, 08:41 PM
Doc brings the Sixers the most embarrassing playoff exit ever and then got fired.
Meanwhile Brett Brown comes into San Antonio with his master tanking credentials and brings the city the most converted number 1 pick in history.
Who had the more fruitful season?
https://media4.giphy.com/media/2xEy6kPUz1POiXCtkZ/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9523c4056fea480cb35563c12cb5e95 e72b30fbdf67&ep=v1_internal_gifs_gifId&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
90sgoat
05-16-2023, 08:43 PM
idk but dallas fans are fuming they missed the playoffs for a 10th pick
Dallas fans are idiots and deserve it
highwhey
05-16-2023, 08:45 PM
Dallas fans are idiots and deserve it
agreed
ninephive
05-16-2023, 09:02 PM
Parker’s still the best French player ever :lol
Parker’s still the best French player ever :lol
Not for long.
Duderonomy
05-17-2023, 07:21 AM
I had to watch the Pistons lose 20 straight games for the 5th pick. :facepalm They really need a forward anyway
Spurs are the luckiest team ever Robinson, Duncan, and now Victor. I don't think Victor will stay healthy but he will have his shinning moments.
HoopologyPhD
05-17-2023, 07:24 AM
Spurs fits the narratives
Hoopstradamus strikes again!
Im Still Ballin
05-17-2023, 07:32 AM
Hoopstradamus strikes again!
Props.
:applause:
MavAlbert
05-17-2023, 11:55 AM
idk but dallas fans are fuming they missed the playoffs for a 10th pick
like hell we are. this was the best thing for the future. dallas had no business in the playoffs.
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