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1987_Lakers
05-17-2023, 11:53 AM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37664703/warriors-never-rebuilt-trust-green-poole-incident-steve-kerr-says

But for Kerr, the biggest reason of all was a lack of trust.

"Anytime some trust is lost, then it makes the process much more difficult, and there was some trust lost," Kerr said at his exit interview on Tuesday. "That's as blunt as I can be. We have to get back to what has made us really successful, which is a really trusting environment and a group that relies on one another and makes each other better."

1987_Lakers
05-17-2023, 11:55 AM
I also heard Bill Simmons who attended game 6 vs the Lakers say that the warriors players seemed more like co-workers than friends. Poole & Kuminga were pouting on the bench. Also mentioned Looney & Iggy were trying their best to keep things positive over on the bench.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh4G0F33YU0

tpols
05-17-2023, 12:22 PM
The warriors very well could have won Game 1 and Game 4 if Poole simply doesn't play at all. That clown single handedly ended the Dubs dynasty.

WhiteKyrie
05-17-2023, 12:33 PM
The warriors very well could have won Game 1 and Game 4 if Poole simply doesn't play at all. That clown single handedly ended the Dubs dynasty.

Oh yes def a moron

HoopologyPhD
05-17-2023, 03:28 PM
If Kerr had any real people skills or coaching ability he would have used this to unite the team.
Dude has been a bus rider his entire life.

j3lademaster
05-17-2023, 03:49 PM
Still don't get why they gave up on Wiseman this early. Not saying he'd for certain live up to his 2nd pick status, but he's 21? 22? In really what is his 2nd season in the league. I get it if another GM was high on him and overpaid, but he was let go for... GP2? Who I like, but c'mon.

AlternativeAcc.
05-17-2023, 03:56 PM
Curry underachieved with an insanely stacked roster. That's the bottom line.

They had a huge talent advantage, a huge chemistry advantage, a health advantage, and a coaching advantage.

And they lost. Outside of Durant-led years they literally do not have a legit impressive series victory. They are thr biggest fraud team in sports history.

Curry underachieved due to being one-dimensional and low IQ.

90sgoat
05-17-2023, 04:17 PM
Kerr is a woke idiot and didn't appreciate the euros and the rest of the physical players that made GSW a good defensive team.

Axe
05-17-2023, 04:42 PM
They always act as if four rings and six trips to the finals weren't enough. :confusedshrug:

Come on, just accept the Ls and move on.

Full Court
05-17-2023, 06:37 PM
Curry underachieved with an insanely stacked roster. That's the bottom line.

They had a huge talent advantage, a huge chemistry advantage, a health advantage, and a coaching advantage.

And they lost. Outside of Durant-led years they literally do not have a legit impressive series victory. They are thr biggest fraud team in sports history.

Curry underachieved due to being one-dimensional and low IQ.

Lol, nice try. The Lakers were far more stacked than the Warriors were.

3ba11
05-17-2023, 10:32 PM
MJ apologized profusely to Kerr after hitting him

Did Draymond do the same?

It sounds like he just kept it moving

1987_Lakers
05-17-2023, 10:37 PM
MJ apologized profusely to Kerr after hitting him

Did Draymond do the same?

It sounds like he just kept it moving

Of course he did, you should follow more basketball instead of looking at stats on basketballreference all day.

AlternativeAcc.
05-17-2023, 11:42 PM
MJ apologized profusely to Kerr after hitting him

Did Draymond do the same?

It sounds like he just kept it moving

Kerr is on record of saying "thank God you didn't choose boxing!" making fun of Jordan's lack of power/fighting prowess (mj was a bitch)

So him being a mature vet and having a sense of humor about it was key.

Axe
05-18-2023, 12:10 AM
Of course he did, you should follow more basketball instead of looking at stats on basketballreference all day.
:roll:

lxlHoTsAuSelxl
05-18-2023, 12:18 AM
Lost trust or lost respect?

warriorfan
05-18-2023, 01:43 AM
curry won a championship with this toxic bullshit

makes you reminisce to kobe’s b2b with soft gasol and toxic odom, artest, fisher, bynum

ImKobe
05-18-2023, 03:31 AM
curry won a championship with this toxic bullshit

makes you reminisce to kobe’s b2b with soft gasol and toxic odom, artest, fisher, bynum

Gasol is one of the ATG teammates though. Him and KB became brothers and KB got the most out of him. Phil is also the GOAT at managing the Artest/Rodman types who are bipolar & unpredictable as ****. Kerr is a smart coach but I don't think he could ever manage the egos well enough in that locker room, which is why the Dray & KD situation happened which led to him leaving the team. It's hard to come back from the Poole punch situation as well with it being recorded and leaked to the Internet.

HoopsNY
05-18-2023, 08:15 AM
If Kerr had any real people skills or coaching ability he would have used this to unite the team.
Dude has been a bus rider his entire life.

Agreed; Kerr is not much of a personality and I highly doubt he has any strong influence on the team culture.

bdonovan
05-18-2023, 09:40 AM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/37664703/warriors-never-rebuilt-trust-green-poole-incident-steve-kerr-says

But for Kerr, the biggest reason of all was a lack of trust.

"Anytime some trust is lost, then it makes the process much more difficult, and there was some trust lost," Kerr said at his exit interview on Tuesday. "That's as blunt as I can be. We have to get back to what has made us really successful, which is a really trusting environment and a group that relies on one another and makes each other better."

I said something similar a few days ago:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?511664-The-Warriors-had-the-SAME-team-last-year-which-won-the-Championship


Instead the Warriors did perhaps the worst thing by not punishing Draymond enough because they thought that would teach an arrogant Poole not to taunt his elders; the result was actually destructive to both Draymond's authority as defensive captain, and Poole's mental health; all year long, the team played as adversaries and competitors, not teammates.

The underlying issues that led to the fight were never resolved. They thought they had a clever solution to the fight, but it created turmoil for the season and destroyed team chemistry.

Any focus on the Warriors in a "sum of their parts" manner, analyzing individual players and their contributions, or where each player fell short misunderstands how the Warriors win games. They win on offense as a team- whizzing the ball around, players passing to each other, trusting one another with the ball, sacrificing their performance to get a better shot for a teammate.

They play D as a team. Despite not having players known for defense except for Draymond, they led the league in the past on defense. They also did that as a team, with iq and teamwork.

Kerr is right to zero in on the trust issue. Prefer they realized this at the time and worked on it but at least they realize the problem won't fix itself.

Johnny32
05-18-2023, 09:53 AM
friendship isn't going to make them not midgets vs the lakers.

ArbitraryWater
05-18-2023, 10:37 AM
its draymonds lack of accountability too

in the podcast and presser asked on these things, he could have easily said it started with him and his misdemeanor... but no, it was everyone.

ArbitraryWater
05-18-2023, 10:38 AM
curry won a championship with this toxic bullshit

makes you reminisce to kobe’s b2b with soft gasol and toxic odom, artest, fisher, bynum

the punch came after the championship you dumb **** :oldlol:

paksat
05-18-2023, 10:45 AM
I wouldn't have apologized too Poole, that guy is a douche to the lebronth degree

Him getting 140 million then putting out that performance also shows he's soft

Kerr let's Draymond do what he wants because he fears him also most likely

red1
05-18-2023, 12:46 PM
green was completely right to punk poole


you can tell poole is probably insufferable

HighFlyer23
05-18-2023, 12:47 PM
curry won a championship with this toxic bullshit

makes you reminisce to kobe’s b2b with soft gasol and toxic odom, artest, fisher, bynum
Gasol wasn’t soft

Odom when his head is straight can fulfill many roles

Draymond went too far this time and it may have caused them a legit opportunity. The way he hit Poole and then embarrassed him in the media afterwards all in the public’s view damaged them greatly. If he did that on the street I can guarantee Poole would have been looking for revenge.

Poole was severely disrespected in front of the world

rmt
05-18-2023, 03:07 PM
Kerr sucks at developing young players. He hardly played Wiseman and so a #2 draft pick was traded away (for GP2 - yet another guard). Didn't Wiseman put up a respectable showing against AD in their first game against LA this season and he would have shored up a position that they are solely lacking in. Moody hardly played all season long in favor of 2 way contracts JMG, Lamb and Jerome. Kuminga played well for the last stretch of regular season but was in the doghouse for the entire playoffs. But Poole (that turnstile on defense) was played and at the end was reluctant to shoot - what good is a shooter who won't shoot - none.

Kerr thinks Klay can guard 1-4. They announce Wiggins rib injury - why? - so that Lakers can target that area? So Klay ends up getting abused by Lebron. Kerr didn't even try Kuminga on LBJ when he is the closest in size and athleticism to Lebron.

Manny98
05-18-2023, 05:37 PM
Curry underachieved with an insanely stacked roster. That's the bottom line.

They had a huge talent advantage, a huge chemistry advantage, a health advantage, and a coaching advantage.

And they lost. Outside of Durant-led years they literally do not have a legit impressive series victory. They are thr biggest fraud team in sports history.

Curry underachieved due to being one-dimensional and low IQ.

Curry won against a stacked Celtics roster with all NBA level defenders in every position and a number 1 offense with Andrew Wiggins as his second option arguably the worst second option of all time

Axe
05-18-2023, 06:35 PM
the punch came after the championship you dumb **** :oldlol:
:lol

He's truy a dumbass