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Im Still Ballin
05-27-2023, 09:05 AM
Here are some interesting posts on the topic.

70sFan tracked 33 games from 1971 to 1979. The average skyhook came from 9 feet and scored at a 52.9% FG rate. This included a five-game sample against Wilt, who held Kareem to 29% FG on skyhooks. The skyhook efficiency goes up to 56% FG without those games.

LamarMatic also tracked the 1983 LA playoff run and found Kareem shot 51.4% (166 of 323) on skyhooks.

It's all down there. Impressive numbers considering he was taking these shots 9 feet from the basket and could get it off over anyone.


I tracked 33 1971-79 Kareem games and here are the skyhook stats from this sample:

10.7 ppg, 8.8 FGA, 1.9 FTA on 52.9 FG% and 55,4 TS%

Some observations:

- almost 95% of Kareem skyhook attempts were right handed, but he was highly efficient with his left hand (finishing them at ridiculous 73% rate),
- my sampled games underrate Kareem's efficiency compared to his RS averages (53.7 FG% and 57.1 TS% compared to 55.5 FG% and 58.6 TS%)
- 5 out of 33 games I tracked were against Wilt Chamberlain who did a great job at shutting down skyhooks (Kareem made only 29% of his skyhooks against Wilt in my sample),
- Kareem became more reliant on skyhook during his Lakers career, but his hookshot also became more efficient. In 20 Lakers games I tracked, Jabbar made skyhooks on 56.7 FG% rate.


I think my numbers aren't far from the reality. I can see him being around 53-54% in his absolute prime on those shots. Possible peak around 56% in the second part of the 1970s.



1971-79 Kareem (33 games):

10.7 ppg, 8.8 FGA, 1.9 FTA on 52.9 FG% and 55.4 TS%

1993-94 Hakeem (35 games):

3.9 ppg, 3.2 FGA, 0.9 FTA on 50.5 FG% and 54.8 TS%

2000-01 Shaq (33 games):

5.5 ppg, 5.0 FGA, 0.9 FTA on 48.0% and 48.4 TS%

1979-83 Moses (38 games):

0.9 ppg, 0.9 FGA, 0.2 FTA on 41.9 FG% and 48.7 TS%

Kareem's volume and efficiency is unmatched by any of these three. Moses rarely used jumphook, he preferred using fadeaways and powerful drop steps instead.


Overall or on skyhook attempts?

Overall, Kareem averaged 30.9 ppg on 60.1 TS% and 56.5 FG% in 27 games without ones against the Lakers.

His skyhook efficiency was at 56 FG% without these 5 games vs Wilt.


Here's footage of every skyhook Kareem took during the 1983 playoffs, he shot 51.4% (166 of 323) on them which is very close to your numbers. To answer the OP's question, yes, his skyhook would still be very valuable today - a 52% shot in the halfcourt is still very good offense, and Kareem could get it off over anybody in the league. Entry passes can be a bottleneck for post offense, but Kareem was really easy to throw them to given his size/length and mobility.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s5R6UxxR8Q


Average skyhook attempt from my sample came from 9 feet.

34% of skyhook attempts came from 10+feet and Kareem made them at 44.4% rate.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPcniUfKRlU

Im Still Ballin
05-27-2023, 09:11 AM
Kareem would eat these small-ball lineups for breakfast. He shot 63% FG (1.39 ppp) on skyhooks in the first round of the '83 playoffs against Portland. He was guarded by 6'10", 220-pound Wayne Cooper. The Robert Williams, Evan Mobley, Nick Claxton crowd would get murdered.


The reason for his staggering efficiency against the Trail Blazers (63% on sky hooks, 1.39 points per possession) seems to come from his advantage over the 6-10 and 220 Wayne Cooper. Kareem at 7-2 (if we even believe that measurement) could get good position down low and just shoot right over him. It’s as if poor Coop is stuck behind an impenetrable wall:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx9XhAucNCs

Jasper
05-27-2023, 11:13 AM
jabbar was the first player colluding.

forced Milwaukee to trade him to Lakers to stack the team

Im Still Ballin
05-27-2023, 04:01 PM
jabbar was the first player colluding.

forced Milwaukee to trade him to Lakers to stack the team

Did he, now?

Akeem34TheDream
05-27-2023, 04:03 PM
I just wanted to say that I appreciate the quality post OP.

bladefd
05-27-2023, 07:47 PM
Good post, OP. Interesting stuff :applause:

GimmeThat
05-27-2023, 07:56 PM
so, ban 3ball, and shoot closer to the basket. got it.

AlternativeAcc.
05-27-2023, 08:03 PM
Those numbers aren't impressive at all and inflated by the nerdy guy who tried to track them. He was essentially a low 40% midrange shooter. That's garbage

HighFlyer23
05-27-2023, 08:14 PM
Overrated move

The jump hook, Dream Shake, turn around fade away, up and under, are all better post moves

iamgine
05-27-2023, 08:20 PM
In 1983, Kareem indeed was efficient in the first playoff series shooting 63% on his skyhook. But in the WCF he only shot 45% on his skyhook and in the Finals 43%. Not exactly very efficient since it was his main weapon.