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Iverson3
06-02-2023, 07:35 AM
Who is the better player?? Who ranks higher in the all time lists??

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Klay Thompson's Accomplishments.

Career highlights and awards

4× NBA champion (2015, 2017, 2018, 2022)
5× NBA All-Star (2015–2019)
2× All-NBA Third Team (2015, 2016)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2019)
NBA Three-Point Contest champion (2016)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (2012)

Reggie Miller's Accomplishments

5× NBA All-Star (1990, 1995, 1996, 1998, 2000)
3× All-NBA Third Team (1995, 1996, 1998)
50–40–90 club (1994)
NBA 75th Anniversary Team
No. 31 retired by Indiana Pacers

bdonovan
06-02-2023, 08:20 AM
I'd say Miller.

Klay's greatness comes in part from being on Curry's team. I really wonder how known he would be, or how many accolades he'd collect if he was on an ordinary team. If he wasn't a second option on a team where the star player is hounded by multiple players, to the point he gets open looks, cuts for an easy basket, he might be just be a solid 3 and d player and that's it.

Jasper
06-02-2023, 09:21 AM
Klay rode Curry and green's coat tails.

Reggie even though never won a ring .. is a better player an is a top 50 player of all time.

ArbitraryWater
06-02-2023, 09:23 AM
Id say Klay.

Just more of an upside.

HoopologyPhD
06-02-2023, 09:32 AM
Klay is a far superior defender with the strength and versatility to guard most 1-4s which probably gives him the edge

Carbine
06-02-2023, 10:47 AM
Reggie at a #1 option

Klay as #2 or #3

Manny98
06-02-2023, 02:27 PM
Reggie easily

Klay is like a tier below

nineiron
06-02-2023, 02:30 PM
I'd say Miller.

Klay's greatness comes in part from being on Curry's team. I really wonder how known he would be, or how many accolades he'd collect if he was on an ordinary team. If he wasn't a second option on a team where the star player is hounded by multiple players, to the point he gets open looks, cuts for an easy basket, he might be just be a solid 3 and d player and that's it.

sounds like Lebron

90sgoat
06-02-2023, 03:36 PM
In Klay's role, Klay.

In Reggie's role, Reggie, easily and it ain't close.

SlimReaper
06-02-2023, 07:23 PM
Definitely Reggie

Axe
06-02-2023, 07:29 PM
In terms of overall team value, it has to be klay.

After making the finals for five straight years, the warriors didn't make the playoffs for the following two straight years while he was fully absent on the playing lineup, after all.

tpols
06-02-2023, 07:39 PM
Playoff Klay has shot like shit compared to playoff Reggie. And that's despite Reggie playing in a way tougher era with no MVP Curry talent to deflect attention.

3ba11
06-02-2023, 08:09 PM
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Regular Season

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html)'.... 17.7 PER.. 2.9 bpm.. 0.153 ws/48.. 42.1 vorp on 33,964 min.. 15/3/5 on 58.2 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............ 16.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.110 ws/48.. 14.4 vorp on 20,380 min.. 19/3/2 on 57.5 ts


Playoffs

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html)'.... 16.5 PER.. 3.1 bpm.. 0.145 ws/48.. 14.1 vorp on 4766 min.. 15/4/4 on 57.5 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............ 14.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.091 ws/48.... 3.1 vorp on 4570 min.. 19/3/2 on 56.0 ts


TLDR: Reggie >............................ Hornacek >.... Klay

plowking
06-02-2023, 08:11 PM
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Regular Season

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html)'.... 17.7 PER.. 2.9 bpm.. 0.153 ws/48.. 42.1 vorp on 33,964 min.. 15/3/5 on 58.2 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............ 16.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.110 ws/48.. 14.4 vorp on 20,380 min.. 19/3/2 on 57.5 ts


Playoffs

Hornacek (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hornaje01.html)'.... 16.5 PER.. 3.1 bpm.. 0.145 ws/48.. 14.1 vorp on 4766 min.. 15/4/4 on 57.5 ts
Klay (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thompkl01.html)............ 14.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.091 ws/48.... 3.1 vorp on 4570 min.. 19/3/2 on 56.0 ts


TLDR: Reggie >............................ Hornacek >.... Klay

What happened to "scoring help" being the most important? :oldlol:

Funny how you flip flop.

EDIT: I'll also point out its funny how Klay's 19.8ppg gets rounded to 19, yet Jeff's 14.53 gets rounded to 15ppg. Interesting maths perspective.

lxlHoTsAuSelxl
06-02-2023, 08:16 PM
Need to see Klay as the #1 then we can compare. With that said, Miller because Klay at this stage wont ever be a first option heck probably not even a #2.

3ba11
06-02-2023, 08:27 PM
What happened to "scoring help" being the most important? :oldlol:

Funny how you flip flop.

EDIT: I'll also point out its funny how Klay's 19.8ppg gets rounded to 19, yet Jeff's 14.53 gets rounded to 15ppg. Interesting maths perspective.


The analysis accounted for era differences and the fact that Hornacek would be an entirely different player at 9 attempts per game (in today's format) instead of the 1.9 attempts career average.

Furthermore, non-franchise players are essentially system players, aka supplementary players like Klay, Pippen or Hornacek don't dictate brand of ball like a franchise player does, so they're essentially production robots within the 1st option's brand of ball.. As production robots, their stats can be compared directly without considering brand of ball, leadership, clutch and other things that must be considered when comparing 1st options

Axe
06-02-2023, 08:56 PM
The analysis accounted for era differences and the fact that Hornacek would be an entirely different player at 9 attempts per game (in today's format) instead of the 1.9 attempts career average.

Furthermore, non-franchise players are essentially system players, aka supplementary players like Klay, Pippen or Hornacek don't dictate brand of ball like a franchise player does, so they're essentially production robots within the 1st option's brand of ball.. As production robots, their stats can be compared directly without considering brand of ball, leadership, clutch and other things that must be considered when comparing 1st options
This clown really berates klay also. :lol

plowking
06-02-2023, 09:15 PM
The analysis accounted for era differences and the fact that Hornacek would be an entirely different player at 9 attempts per game (in today's format) instead of the 1.9 attempts career average.

Furthermore, non-franchise players are essentially system players, aka supplementary players like Klay, Pippen or Hornacek don't dictate brand of ball like a franchise player does, so they're essentially production robots within the 1st option's brand of ball.. As production robots, their stats can be compared directly without considering brand of ball, leadership, clutch and other things that must be considered when comparing 1st options

So your analysis lies and misrepresents the actual numbers they achieved to suit your agenda?

Got ya.

Baller789
06-02-2023, 10:00 PM
The answer is Miller time.

Klay would just be another name with another team.