Are you amazed at Kobe stories like this or do you cringe?

[Kblaze8855]

I’m thinking 70/30 amazed/cringe ratio here. Some people kinda roll their eyes at such stories from people like Kobe or JJ Watt but I enjoy them for the most part. Kobe watching Shark week to get an edge on AI…



On November 12, 1996, Allen Iverson dropped 35 on the Knicks in a win at the Garden.On November 12, 1996, I played five minutes and finished with two points in a Lakers win at Houston.
When I checked into my hotel room later that night and saw the 35 on SportsCenter, I lost it. I flipped the table, threw the chairs, broke the TV.
I thought I had been working hard.
Five minutes. Two points.
I needed to work harder.
I did.
On March 19, 1999, Iverson put 41 points and 10 assists on me in Philadelphia.

Working harder wasn’t enough.
I had to study this man maniacally.
I obsessively read every article and book I could find about AI. I obsessively watched every game he had played, going back to the IUPU All-American Game. I obsessively studied his every success, and his every struggle. I obsessively searched for any weakness I could find.
I searched the world for musings to add to my AI Musecage.
This led me to study how great white sharks hunt seals off the coast of South Africa.
The patience. The timing. The angles.
On Feb 20, 2000, in Philadelphia, PJ gave me the assignment of guarding AI at the start of the second half. No one knew how much this challenge meant to me.
I wanted him to feel the frustration I felt.
I wanted everyone who laughed at the 41 and 10 he put on me to choke on their laughter.

[Kblaze8855]

continued…



.He would publicly say that neither of us could stop the other.I refused to believe that.
I score 50.
You score zero.
THAT is what I believe.
When I started guarding AI, he had 16 at the half. He finished the game with 16.
Revenge was sweet.
But I wasn’t satisfied after the win. I was annoyed that he had made me feel that way in the first place.
I swore, from that point on, to approach every matchup as a matter of life and death. No one was going to have that kind of control over my focus ever again.
I will choose who I want to target and lock in.
I will choose whether or not your goals for the upcoming season compromise where I want to be in 20 years.
If they don’t, happy hunting to you. But if they do….
I will hunt you obsessively. It’s only natural.

[bison]

The last of a generation. I can't imagine any current star who directed his passion directly against certain rival players. The whole your enemies should make you better mentality. It's too team oriented, too much of a buddy buddy league for that kind of rhetoric now.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Kobe definitely had some cringe side to him. He was a very good athlete and basketball player. But this 'obsession' for the game, work ethic and waking up early to training marketing bs were a bit cringe. Maybe not as much as Lebron with his SJW takes but Kobe bothered me too. I guess you have to be a little annoying to some in order to attract the attention of most people.

[BallsOut]

Kobe definitely had some cringe side to him. He was a very good athlete and basketball player. But this 'obsession' for the game, work ethic and waking up early to training marketing bs were a bit cringe. Maybe not as much as Lebron with his SJW takes but Kobe bothered me too. I guess you have to be a little annoying to some in order to attract the attention of most people.

Kobe wasn't marketing it, he was living it.

[HoopologyPhD]

CRINGE, as poster above said it is probably mostly marketing.
I'm more impressed by guys like Iverson not practicing and smoking out before games that he puts up 40 on "high" efficiency.

[bdonovan]

On one hand that level of competitiveness is commendable. It shows - if you want different results, you have to work at it. The competitive fire is what motivates all that extra work.

On the other hand, there are many players in the NBA that likely do this- watch video in their spare time etc., they just don't talk about it.

[Im Still Ballin]

Kobe always had a chip on his shoulder because he grew up wealthy, privileged, and in Europe. There was talk that he didn't have that "street hunger" in him. Whatever that means. Was it Bernard Hopkins who said the same about Donovan McNabb?

[Hey Yo]

Watching sharks hunt seals helped him be the best defender he could be???


:whatever:

[bdonovan]

Kobe always had a chip on his shoulder because he grew up wealthy, privileged, and in Europe. There was talk that he didn't have that "street hunger" in him. Whatever that means. Was it Bernard Hopkins who said the same about Donovan McNabb?

That explains why he was always over-compensating trying to show how tough he was.

[Full Court]

Imagine putting that much effort and energy into defense. If only the superstars of today had that mentality.

[Wardell Curry]

It's obvious that Kobe was not mentally healthy whatsoever, lol.

Total shot in the dark? Bad relationship or some sort of lacking there with his father.

Hey, between his talent and his emotional pain and emotional suffering, he became an all time great NBA player. Good for him.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Kobe got thoroughly outplayed by Iverson almost every game head to head until Iverson became washed up. This is incredibly cringey.

[ArbitraryWater]

Thats cringe af lmao.


Totally over the top.


Hilarious read.

[Legend248]

Thats cringe af lmao.


Totally over the top.


Hilarious read.

Says the one whos a lebron fan.....**** you and your family ******

[sdot_thadon]

That shit sounds good on paper and was amazing in the time period it happened, unfortunately we are much harder to entertain in 2023, so what I once would have admired I now see the branding lol.

[Iverson3]

Says the one whos a lebron fan.....**** you and your family ******

https://i.postimg.cc/fWYdfHjz/NN56Q9S.png

[ILLsmak]

He was young and prolly on too much PEDz, but the only problem I have with it is this:

"When I checked into my hotel room later that night and saw the 35 on SportsCenter, I lost it. I flipped the table, threw the chairs, broke the TV."

That's just being a hater imo haha. Not even ON him. But the breaking shit is just wack. Otherwise, yea, man, it's called going hard. I feel the same way as him, but I wouldn't express it like him. Kobe isn't much of a word smith haha. Unfortunately! When people let out their feelings and they do it poorly, it can make things seem pretty wack, but yeah... breaking someone else's TV and shit, that's vile. Even if it's a hotel TV that you can pay for... it's just borderline psychopathic to have such little respect for something, to not be able to properly direct your emotions. If he said I went out to Golds Gym at 2am and shot 1000 jumpers, that would have been different.

-Smak

[BallsOut]

He was young and prolly on too much PEDz, but the only problem I have with it is this:

"When I checked into my hotel room later that night and saw the 35 on SportsCenter, I lost it. I flipped the table, threw the chairs, broke the TV."

That's just being a hater imo haha. Not even ON him. But the breaking shit is just wack. Otherwise, yea, man, it's called going hard. I feel the same way as him, but I wouldn't express it like him. Kobe isn't much of a word smith haha. Unfortunately! When people let out their feelings and they do it poorly, it can make things seem pretty wack, but yeah... breaking someone else's TV and shit, that's vile. Even if it's a hotel TV that you can pay for... it's just borderline psychopathic to have such little respect for something, to not be able to properly direct your emotions. If he said I went out to Golds Gym at 2am and shot 1000 jumpers, that would have been different.

-Smak

Kobe isn’t known for making great decisions in hotel rooms to be fair

[ILLsmak]

Kobe isn’t known for making great decisions in hotel rooms to be fair

loool. I still dunno how those dudes get caught like that. It's gotta be tempting, but I'd say hookers all the way. Get a nice escort service, become a VIP, keep it on the DL gg. If sex is what you want, that's it. It might seem more powerful to pull some rando min wage worker, but... ehh. Plus legit your wife would prol take it better, too, if she found out.

-Smak

[HighFlyer23]

Kobe had a weird cringey obsession over a fuvking game

[LAL]

Op is such a closet die hard bronsexual

[RRR3]

Op is such a closet die hard bronsexual
Kblaze??? :roll:

You think anyone who doesn't obsessively hate LeBron is a stan of his, you ****ing loser

[LAL]

Kblaze??? :roll:

You think anyone who doesn't obsessively hate LeBron is a stan of his, you ****ing loser

A loser is someone proudly attracted to both genders, but still being lonely and single for years.

And doxing people on basketball forums for lebum ****ing james.

[RRR3]

A loser is someone proudly attracted to both genders, but still being lonely and single for years.

And doxing people on basketball forums for lebum ****ing james.
No need to tell us your life story, Nigel.

[Legend248]

No need to tell us your life story, Nigel.

wrong alt brotha lol

[Legend248]

https://i.postimg.cc/fWYdfHjz/NN56Q9S.png

You ok little boy? LOL you are a sad filipino midget mother ****er that I would stomp on your head

[tpols]

CRINGE, as poster above said it is probably mostly marketing.
I'm more impressed by guys like Iverson not practicing and smoking out before games that he puts up 40 on "high" efficiency.

It's not marketing at all.

Kobe had GOAT level discipline and work ethic. While Iverson had incredible talent but was a bum in that respect. I was just watching the 2001 sixers documentary and Iverson was suspended a bunch of times for skipping practice. Kobe used to wake up at 4am and work out before 7am practice. His determination was absolutely GOAT.

[tpols]

This led me to study how great white sharks hunt seals off the coast of South Africa.


Reminds me of Mike Tyson and how he used to study the great conquerors of the past to summon courage.

[SouBeachTalents]

You can't knock Kobe's dedication and his competitiveness, but it's just natural to find it cringeworthy when someone seems like they're trying way too hard. I'm sure Jordan, Russell & Bird were just as ruthlessly competitive, but they didn't go out of their way to cultivate that image publicly like Kobe did. They weren't out there mugging for the camera like this

https://roadtogameday.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/kobemeanface.jpg?w=300&h=167

The funniest part of that story to me, one I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned yet


When I checked into my hotel room later that night and saw the 35 on SportsCenter, I lost it. I flipped the table, threw the chairs, broke the TV.
That literally never happened :lol Total embellishment on his part.

[Lebron23]

Kobe loves making up stories.

[Legend248]

Kobe loves making up stories.

Peasant you back? Ok go away midget and go make me some flip flops.....you ****ing ******

[tpols]

You can't knock Kobe's dedication and his competitiveness, but it's just natural to find it cringeworthy when someone seems like they're trying way too hard. I'm sure Jordan, Russell & Bird were just as ruthlessly competitive, but they didn't go out of their way to cultivate that image publicly like Kobe did. They weren't out there mugging for the camera like this

https://roadtogameday.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/kobemeanface.jpg?w=300&h=167

The funniest part of that story to me, one I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned yet


That literally never happened :lol Total embellishment on his part.

Kobe walked the walk so he was allowed to talk the talk. Lets face it... who are you? Who am I? Are you waking up at 4am to chase your goals? Doubt it.... Kobe was psychopathically determined and motivated. These stories aren't far fetched. You're trying to clown à dude who had 1000xmore heart than you or me.

[Lebron23]

Peasant you back? Ok go away midget and go make me some flip flops.....you ****ing ******

https://i.postimg.cc/fWYdfHjz/NN56Q9S.png Where are the Burger and fries that I ordered??

[JohnMax]

Kobe always had a chip on his shoulder because he grew up wealthy, privileged, and in Europe. There was talk that he didn't have that "street hunger" in him. Whatever that means. Was it Bernard Hopkins who said the same about Donovan McNabb?

Ha ha. Suck it Kobe haters. What he represented won out and what Allen Iverson represents died. NBA is now dominated by players who grew up overseas or wealthy affluent sons of former players. Two most popular non-NBA players are Bronnie Jr and Wembenyama and they fit that description.

Your boy Lebron was exposed at 2008 and 2012 Olympics when Kobe got way more loud cheers. Foreign audiences can tell you Americans find Lebron less threatening and favor that unskilled bum over Kobe. That's why it was so satisfying seeing him get swept by Jokic. Another player who is not only more skilled than him but also grew up overseas.

We're taking over NBA you filthy Americans. Lebron will be last American face of league who grew up in streets. From here on out it's nothing but foreigners and wealthy affluent sons of former players.

We're not stopping with NBA either. We'll take over all your sports. NFL started playing games overseas which means they'll soon draft foreign born players. Bye bye American Football. Hello International football. We know you love wrasslin. Most of WWE wrestlers are now from overseas.

We aren't stopping at sports either. We've conditioned you Americans to accept presidents with foreign born parents, wives, and children. We are very close to the day when a foreign born citizen becomes president after we change constitutional law barring them from holding office.

[Atlantis]

I'm amazed by it not really because of kobe obsession but because it reveals how great Allen iverson was and how much kobe respected him.

There arent that many people who kobe respects on the basketball court.

That should give you a sense of how good and scary ai in his prime was.

[red1]

I obsessively read every article and book I could find about AI. I obsessively watched every game he had played, going back to the IUPU All-American Game. I obsessively studied his every success, and his every struggle. I obsessively searched for any weakness I could find.
I searched the world for musings to add to my AI Musecage.
This led me to study how great white sharks hunt seals off the coast of South Africa.
The patience. The timing. The angles.

pure cringe tbh



cant deny the heart though.

[plowking]

Extremely cringey. But then you have guys like tpols who come here and back him up - which I find even cringier.

Kobe was odd. Seemed to care a lot of media perception off the court, but played freely with no care on it. I mean - smart on his part as well. I think his career was very calculated from an off the court perspective outside of his obvious blunder. He knew he played in the biggest market where people loved building a narrative and adding to legacy, and he did it in a pretty smart way. Playing in LA and Boston, you always get a boost to your legacy and touted as better than you are.

[RRR3]

wrong alt brotha lol
The irony of you posting this on another account :facepalm

And I meant to post that, Nigel. I don’t use 3 accounts like you.

[90sgoat]

It's cringe and outright weird, but as I get older, I think it doesn't matter. Kobe became a huge star and Allen Iverson fizzled out being late on child support.

The truth is that almost-, but not quite, psychos like Kobe usually end up with success. You might find them cringe, lame and probably a bit scary, but if you have that kind of burning single minded passion at 20 years old, then you're going to make it.

If you're a slacker like Iverson, then you'll be a great talent until 27 and then you'll be a loser and a "could have been". Iverson being lucky to have played in a league of big contracts. Had he played in the 60s or 70s, he probably would have been broke and dead by the 90s.

Society has changed though. Now you don't get paid by being hard working or even extremely good, you get paid solely for how much you can distract the peasants.

[LAL]

Extremely cringey. But then you have guys like tpols who come here and back him up - which I find even cringier.

Kobe was odd. Seemed to care a lot of media perception off the court, but played freely with no care on it. I mean - smart on his part as well. I think his career was very calculated from an off the court perspective outside of his obvious blunder. He knew he played in the biggest market where people loved building a narrative and adding to legacy, and he did it in a pretty smart way. Playing in LA and Boston, you always get a boost to your legacy and touted as better than you are.

Bronsexuals suck man :oldlol:

Kobe is the laker goat, lebum does not deserve to get his jersey retired in LA because dude has no skills and can't get the job done 90% of his long ass career.

[plowking]

Bronsexuals suck man :oldlol:

Kobe is the laker goat, lebum does not deserve to get his jersey retired in LA because dude has no skills and can't get the job done 90% of his long ass career.

Ok.

Way to bring up Bron. No one cares.

[RRR3]

Bronsexuals suck man :oldlol:

Kobe is the laker goat, lebum does not deserve to get his jersey retired in LA because dude has no skills and can't get the job done 90% of his long ass career.
LeBron has double the amount of rings as the best player on his team as Kobe…

[LAL]

LeBron has double the amount of rings as the best player on his team as Kobe…

"as the best player"

Stat padding punk creating superteams could never finish the job. Monster on the stat sheet lol.

What impresses you so much about lebrons game? Pls tell me..

[LAL]

Ok.

Way to bring up Bron. No one cares.

Yes Kobe overrated because california

[RRR3]

"as the best player"

Stat padding punk creating superteams could never finish the job. Monster on the stat sheet lol.

What impresses you so much about lebrons game? Pls tell me..
LeBron: 4 FMVPs
Kobe: 2



:(


Kobe barely ever won unless he was the sidekick.

[plowking]

Yes Kobe overrated because california

Bird and Magic also benefitted from this as well.

You're too in your feels though to give an objective viewpoint.

[LAL]

LeBron: 4 FMVPs
Kobe: 2



:(


Kobe barely ever won unless he was the sidekick.

I knew it, media awards and stats.. No legendary or special basketball abilities like many of his counterparts and superstar teammates. Imagine being a bron stan and being you.

[RRR3]

I knew it, media awards and stats.. No legendary or special basketball abilities like many of his counterparts and superstar teammates. Imagine being a bron stan and being you.
Did you cry when LeBron surpassed Kobe?

[LAL]

Bird and Magic also benefitted from this as well.

You're too in your feels though to give an objective viewpoint.

He would've had the same talent and determination if he played on any team, and he still would've watched those "cringy" shark docus wherever he was. He was different and even had to hold back the scoring in LA with Shaq. BuT kObE aNd StAts

Your "kobe is overrated because california" post is not objective, it's a dumb loser post. You high?

[tpols]

Extremely cringey. But then you have guys like tpols who come here and back him up - which I find even cringier.

Kobe was odd. Seemed to care a lot of media perception off the court, but played freely with no care on it. I mean - smart on his part as well. I think his career was very calculated from an off the court perspective outside of his obvious blunder. He knew he played in the biggest market where people loved building a narrative and adding to legacy, and he did it in a pretty smart way. Playing in LA and Boston, you always get a boost to your legacy and touted as better than you are.


What's cringey about it? Kobe dedicated his life to the game and all this shit is real. There's nothing calculated about it. It's what he lived and loved. You're an Australian meat head with an IQ barely above surface level to breathe. Who are you to judge so harshly?

[LAL]

Did you cry when LeBron surpassed Kobe?

Did you cry when delonte banged his mother?

[RRR3]

Did you cry when delonte banged his mother?
What a bizarre thing to comment, Nigel. Why are you always so angry?

[LAL]

What a bizarre thing to comment, Nigel. Why are you always so angry?

You still can't explain your admiration for lebron's basketball abilities and what's so amazing about his game..
Not stats or media gifts, just want my little communist nerdy bi friend to explain.

[plowking]

What's cringey about it? Kobe dedicated his life to the game and all this shit is real. There's nothing calculated about it. It's what he lived and loved. You're an Australian meat head with an IQ barely above surface level to breathe. Who are you to judge so harshly?

I just want to highlight this post, and the one below you pointed at another poster:


Lets face it... who are you? Who am I? Are you waking up at 4am to chase your goals? Doubt it.... Kobe was psychopathically determined and motivated. These stories aren't far fetched. You're trying to clown à dude who had 1000xmore heart than you or me.

I'll just start by saying - I can see why you like Kobe - because these replies were fairly cringey as well lol. Why is there a need for you to get so personal and feel like you've been slighted or having to protect a celebrities honour? Its cringey - and these athletes - more often than not are full of shit and fairly shallow people outside of their passion. Dennis Rodman talking about calculating angles and knowing where it would bounce was cringey. He wasn't calculating shit lol... He saw enough shots, you can see when it was long or short and he would go to areas to contest. A lot of athlete stories are cringey.

It is an anonymous message board where all of us could make up whatever we want about ourselves. If it makes you feel better, I am a stupid meat head with a low IQ. You're far better off in life though - hence your need for personal attacks on an internet forum. Regardless - I'm pretty happy with my life as a stupid Aussie.

[SATAN]

It's 100% cringe. Not what he did so much (apart from breaking a table) but the way he wrote that. Totally over exaggerated and ego driven.

[SATAN]

What's cringey about it? Kobe dedicated his life to the game and all this shit is real. There's nothing calculated about it. It's what he lived and loved. You're an Australian meat head with an IQ barely above surface level to breathe. Who are you to judge so harshly?

:facepalm

[Axe]

Would rather read the last season by his former coach lol.

[highwhey]

almost as cringe as 73 year old OP wearing pink lebrons

[BallsOut]

Did you cry when LeBron surpassed Kobe?

Kobe is still better than lebron all time according to the latest ish poll.

:lebronamazed:

[plowking]

:facepalm

I knew I wasn't the only one reading it and cringing lol.

[BallsOut]

Did you cry when LeBron surpassed Kobe?

Did you cry when you saw the latest Kobe vs Lebron all time poll results on ish?

I would to if I was a Lebron fan. Here's Lebron23's reaction to seeing those poll results:


https://i.ibb.co/6rfqvBZ/cryinglouie.jpg

[Kblaze8855]

It's cringe and outright weird, but as I get older, I think it doesn't matter. Kobe became a huge star and Allen Iverson fizzled out being late on child support.


Thats a bit of a weird take. Allen Iverson was a bigger star than Kobe for a good while there and he stopped being a star at 32 and Kobe stopped at…33-34?

Neither one of them actually lasted that long. Kobe worked like a maniac but for whatever reason once he got hurt he was never good again. I don’t know if medical technology advanced that much in the last 10 years or what but Kobe became a has been like….instantly….with an injury KD came back better from. And really…so did Nique. And that was 30 years ago. Everyone’s different obviously.

To this day I’m surprised someone as skilled as Kobe didn’t adjust better than he did. He seemed like the prototype of the guy who just makes a subtle change to start beating you being crafty and skilled when the athleticism goes. But he kinda…..wasn’t.

Me predicting he would round into form is still probably my biggest miss on here ever. A lot of the perceived lazy guys were better washed up injured players than Kobe. Slow old Barkley was better than slow old Kobe for the most part and that is….a little weird. He lost it all at once like players who had that injury were expected to in the 70s and 80s.

[Overdrive]

Thats a bit of a weird take. Allen Iverson was a bigger star than Kobe for a good while there and he stopped being a star at 32 and Kobe stopped at…33-34?

Neither one of them actually lasted that long. Kobe worked like a maniac but for whatever reason once he got hurt he was never good again. I don’t know if medical technology advanced that much in the last 10 years or what but Kobe became a has been like….instantly….with an injury KD came back better from. And really…so did Nique. And that was 30 years ago. Everyone’s different obviously.

To this day I’m surprised someone as skilled as Kobe didn’t adjust better than he did. He seemed like the prototype of the guy who just makes a subtle change to start beating you being crafty and skilled when the athleticism goes. But he kinda…..wasn’t.

Me predicting he would round into form is still probably my biggest miss on here ever. A lot of the perceived lazy guys were better washed up injured players than Kobe. Slow old Barkley was better than slow old Kobe for the most part and that is….a little weird. He lost it all at once like players who had that injury were expected to in the 70s and 80s.

I think alot came feom the false impression that Kobe had some high bbiq, while doing some nice things on court as a teamplayer, it still was a glaring weakness.

Most players that slow down due to injury or just old age beat you with their understanding of the game. Kobe obviously had that understanding looking at the game from the outside, but when he was on the court he more often than not ignored what was the right thing to do.

He did that to a point where he hoisted up bad shots over defenders just because he could. He did it that much that he was called the best bad shot maker in the world. The problem is once your athleticism goes you cannot take bad shots any more. You have to pick the good opportunities that are presented at you and he never in his career was good at that.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Back then they didnt load manage like these softies. Star players would log 38-40min a game during the regular season. By the time they hit 30-32 its pretty much down hill from there not to mention having a major injury to. As for KD, he easily bounce back after a injury because he relies on his elite shooting and height.

[90sgoat]

Thats a bit of a weird take. Allen Iverson was a bigger star than Kobe for a good while there and he stopped being a star at 32 and Kobe stopped at…33-34?

Neither one of them actually lasted that long. Kobe worked like a maniac but for whatever reason once he got hurt he was never good again. I don’t know if medical technology advanced that much in the last 10 years or what but Kobe became a has been like….instantly….with an injury KD came back better from. And really…so did Nique. And that was 30 years ago. Everyone’s different obviously.

To this day I’m surprised someone as skilled as Kobe didn’t adjust better than he did. He seemed like the prototype of the guy who just makes a subtle change to start beating you being crafty and skilled when the athleticism goes. But he kinda…..wasn’t.

Me predicting he would round into form is still probably my biggest miss on here ever. A lot of the perceived lazy guys were better washed up injured players than Kobe. Slow old Barkley was better than slow old Kobe for the most part and that is….a little weird. He lost it all at once like players who had that injury were expected to in the 70s and 80s.

You're right in the sense, that comparing to AI wasn't the best example and I knew when I posted it, because Iverson was a huge talent and didn't really have any weaknesses in his game, even coming into the league. That's why he was so highly regarded. I actually watched his last game with Hoyas and the media was all over him, he was a big time prospect, well deserved.

With AI, I would say, you could criticise him for not wanting to play a more typical point guard role, which was probably valid in his early days, before the defensive 3 seconds. He would have been better passing the ball more, but like Curry, he ended up changing the game so much, the game had to change the rules. AI made Dame and Curry and Parker and Nash and all the other small guards.

I digress, so AI wasn't really the best example, because he had much of that same fire that Kobe had, just applied it differently and talentwise, was probably a bigger talent than Kobe, just didn't have the height.

You don't need to search long to find very talented and lazy players who never lived up to their hype, so I think the principle still applies.

I would say that the kind of psycho-fire that Kobe has in this story is overkill, it's just not necessary to succeed, if you're talented, but like I said, if you want to bet who will make it big, then the surest bet is on the fanatic, because they'll put in all the hours needed.

[90sgoat]

He did that to a point where he hoisted up bad shots over defenders just because he could. He did it that much that he was called the best bad shot maker in the world. The problem is once your athleticism goes you cannot take bad shots any more. You have to pick the good opportunities that are presented at you and he never in his career was good at that.

There's been a lot of revisionism with Kobe, as this off ball player like MJ.

In reality, as soon as Shaq was out the door, he began playing much more like McGrady. I'm actually quite convinced that Kobe lookign jealously at McGrady was a big reason he drove Shaq out.

[Axe]

I think alot came feom the false impression that Kobe had some high bbiq, while doing some nice things on court as a teamplayer, it still was a glaring weakness.

Most players that slow down due to injury or just old age beat you with their understanding of the game. Kobe obviously had that understanding looking at the game from the outside, but when he was on the court he more often than not ignored what was the right thing to do.

He did that to a point where he hoisted up bad shots over defenders just because he could. He did it that much that he was called the best bad shot maker in the world. The problem is once your athleticism goes you cannot take bad shots any more. You have to pick the good opportunities that are presented at you and he never in his career was good at that.
His hof coach used to say that the easiest shots to make are usually the ones that are unobstructed or uncontested. But kobe liked challenging himself. So whenever he gets the opportunity, he went for the ones that have to go through traffic or tried doing an effort in making them creative and flashy. Therefore, more difficult shots that are prone to errors and misses. Thus infuriating the others on his team at times.

[tpols]

I just want to highlight this post, and the one below you pointed at another poster:



I'll just start by saying - I can see why you like Kobe - because these replies were fairly cringey as well lol. Why is there a need for you to get so personal and feel like you've been slighted or having to protect a celebrities honour? Its cringey - and these athletes - more often than not are full of shit and fairly shallow people outside of their passion. Dennis Rodman talking about calculating angles and knowing where it would bounce was cringey. He wasn't calculating shit lol... He saw enough shots, you can see when it was long or short and he would go to areas to contest. A lot of athlete stories are cringey.

It is an anonymous message board where all of us could make up whatever we want about ourselves. If it makes you feel better, I am a stupid meat head with a low IQ. You're far better off in life though - hence your need for personal attacks on an internet forum. Regardless - I'm pretty happy with my life as a stupid Aussie.

I apologize man. Shouldn't have said that.

[BallsOut]

What's cringey about it? Kobe dedicated his life to the game and all this shit is real. There's nothing calculated about it. It's what he lived and loved. You're an Australian meat head with an IQ barely above surface level to breathe. Who are you to judge so harshly?

:lebronamazed:

[ImKobe]

Kobe got thoroughly outplayed by Iverson almost every game head to head until Iverson became washed up. This is incredibly cringey.

He outplayed him in the Finals in 2001 lol... don't let the sub-par chucking by AI tell you otherwise. AI had a great G1 and it was crickets the next 4 games.

[imdaman99]

It depends. I don't mind a little psychotic from the legends.

If you're part of the LeBron fam, this is pure cringe. If you're not, it's only a little :lol I'm a kobe guy so I'll eat this up and appreciate it

[1987_Lakers]

Kobe was always cringe. I remember laughing out loud when he told Matt Barnes "Anyone crazy enough to mess with me, can play with me".

Talk about an inflated ego.

https://media.tenor.com/wCTS6HAI_FkAAAAC/chris-childs.gif

[highwhey]

just a daily reminder that you're a bitch OP.

[1987_Lakers]

just a daily reminder that you're a bitch OP.

We need a sitdown between you two.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dU1GGr6DGo

[highwhey]

We need a sitdown between you two.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dU1GGr6DGo

i can sit my balls on OPs chin

[Hey Yo]

Kobe was always cringe. I remember laughing out loud when he told Matt Barnes "Anyone crazy enough to mess with me, can play with me".

Talk about an inflated ego.

https://media.tenor.com/wCTS6HAI_FkAAAAC/chris-childs.gif

That will never get old.

[plowking]

I apologize man. Shouldn't have said that.

You're welcome over for a BBQ whenever you're in Australia homie.

https://media.tenor.com/vnGjPkARnCsAAAAM/hug.gif

[BallsOut]

Kobe was always cringe. I remember laughing out loud when he told Matt Barnes "Anyone crazy enough to mess with me, can play with me".

Talk about an inflated ego.

https://media.tenor.com/wCTS6HAI_FkAAAAC/chris-childs.gif

Kobe took shots and still standing. Lebron on the other hand,

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SkeletalUnconsciousIndiancow-size_restricted.gif

Weak :roll: