Supposedly Memphis wants to move on from Ja.

[Kblaze8855]

I keep reading reports about it from Windhorst.

I suppose the question is…

Who would give up what?

Let’s bypass the “Nobody would trade for” foolishness. He becomes available someone makes an offer.

Who do you imagine offers what?


Portland give up that pick and filler to placate Dame?

[FultzNationRISE]

I keep reading reports about it from Windhorst.

I suppose the question is…

Who would give up what?

Let’s bypass the “Nobody would trade for” foolishness. He becomes available someone makes an offer.

Who do you imagine offers what?


Portland give up that pick and filler to placate Dame?

Given his max salary, current standing within the conduct policy, and the fact his team plays better without him… I dont think its foolishness at all.

Maybe someone trades for him… but maybe nobody does. Neither would surprise me.

[HoopologyPhD]

Would need a team with a strong coach and better player than him that is a leader, that is the problem in Memphis, he can do whatever he wants because they have no 2nd option

[Kblaze8855]

Given his max salary, current standing within the conduct policy, and the fact his team plays better without him… I dont think its foolishness at all.

Maybe someone trades for him… but maybe nobody does. Neither would surprise me.


If he gets suspended a year someone will still want him. KCP was literally playing in a house arrest ankle monitor. The idea nobody would take a HOF caliber young knucklehead on the market for cheap when he’s like the 30th highest paid player in the nba is too absurd to discuss at length. Someone would take him. Question is who.

Knicks would usually be an answer but they don’t really need a lead guard.

[Patrick Chewing]

Not sure how a team trades for him considering he might get a full season suspension which is what I'm suspecting will be his punishment. Memphis is stuck with him unless they cut him. No team is silly enough to give up picks or players for someone who will not see the court next season.

But then again, Silver is weak sauce. This suspension could be as lame as 25 games.

[Kblaze8855]

No team is silly enough to give up picks or players for someone who will not see the court next season.


Tell me…why would a team like the Spurs even care if he plays next season?

If he’s out…let Wemby play and lose all year for another lottery pick and hope they’re the best duo in the league for the next 10-12 years as Pop uses the last of his life force to mold them into champions.

Why would the rockets care if he played next year?


Or OKC?

Or Orlando?

Or the Pistons?

[Patrick Chewing]

Tell me…why would a team like the Spurs even care if he plays next season?

If he’s out…let Wemby play and lose all year for another lottery pick and hope they’re the best duo in the league for the next 10-12 years as Pop uses the last of his life force to mold them into champions.

Why would the rockets care if he played next year?


Or OKC?

Or Orlando?

Or the Pistons?

This is assuming that Morant will come cheap. He won't. And we can remove San Antonio from that equation cause that would definitely be a request by the Grizzlies, to get this year's first (Wemby). OKC has the assets. So do my Knicks. I don't think teams like Orlando and Detroit mortgage the future for him. Now that I think of it, even if the suspension is for one season, the haul that Memphis would want would be astronomical.

[Overdrive]

We've seen it before. We'll see it again. He'll get another shot[sic!] or maybe even two, but if he doesn't change he'll be blackballed.

[FultzNationRISE]

Tell me…why would a team like the Spurs even care if he plays next season?

If he’s out…let Wemby play and lose all year for another lottery pick and hope they’re the best duo in the league for the next 10-12 years as Pop uses the last of his life force to mold them into champions.

Why would the rockets care if he played next year?


Or OKC?

Or Orlando?

Or the Pistons?


Point guard market is saturated. Theres little need to take a risk on a guy like Morant.

You think the SPURS would bring in a guy like Ja Morant with all his hood wannabe baggage? :oldlol:

And OKC has Giddey and SGA, theyre not gonna trade assets to overpay Morant and put him on the bench. Magic and Pistons already have a core full of top picks, I dont see them wanting to add Morant’s nonsense into the mix.

Houston MAYBE. But again, I doubt they give up anything of value.

I think you’re overestimating how much interest there will be. Im not saying it wont happen, just that it may not.

[Kblaze8855]

This is assuming that Morant will come cheap. He won't. And we can remove San Antonio from that equation cause that would definitely be a request by the Grizzlies, to get this year's first (Wemby). OKC has the assets. So do my Knicks. I don't think teams like Orlando and Detroit mortgage the future for him. Now that I think of it, even if the suspension is for one season, the haul that Memphis would want would be astronomical.


There is no way they would even ask for the top pick. Now would they ask Portland for their pick? Maybe.

If you just want him gone you wouldn’t make a request like Wemby. Spurs wouldn’t do that without the “controversy”.

[r15mohd]

Not sure how a team trades for him considering he might get a full season suspension which is what I'm suspecting will be his punishment. Memphis is stuck with him unless they cut him. No team is silly enough to give up picks or players for someone who will not see the court next season.

But then again, Silver is weak sauce. This suspension could be as lame as 25 games.

i think it's actually perfect for a team like Portland...

Memphis gets a Dame and continued shots at deep playoff runs. Portland relieves itself of a years payout with Ja suspended, and ability to tank for a high pick with rebuilding their future and still have a young Ja in a couple years

[Hey Yo]

This is assuming that Morant will come cheap. He won't. And we can remove San Antonio from that equation cause that would definitely be a request by the Grizzlies, to get this year's first (Wemby). OKC has the assets. So do my Knicks. I don't think teams like Orlando and Detroit mortgage the future for him. Now that I think of it, even if the suspension is for one season, the haul that Memphis would want would be astronomical.

If Memphis wants him gone bad enough, Ja will come reasonably cheap.

[Kblaze8855]

Point guard market is saturated. Theres little need to take a risk on a guy like Morant.

You think the SPURS would bring in a guy like Ja Morant with all his hood wannabe baggage? :oldlol:

And OKC has Giddey and SGA, theyre not gonna trade assets to overpay Morant and put him on the bench. Magic and Pistons already have a core full of top picks, I dont see them wanting to add Morant’s nonsense into the mix.

Houston MAYBE. But again, I doubt they give up anything of value.

I think you’re overestimating how much interest there will be. Im not saying it wont happen, just that it may not.


Teams only care about actual criminal activity to the extent the public relation disaster isn’t worth the talent anymore. Perfectly legal, but annoying activity from a young superstar?

The Spurs signed Stephen Jackson(for a second time) after he got arrested for a strip club fight during which he shot(supposedly in the air) 5-6 times…while he was already on probation.

Same GM, coach, and owner from then. They brought him back when Lebron was on the Heat.

They don’t care about actual crime. They certainly don’t care about manufactured crime like Morants situation. Its just a PR question. And nba fans are more in awe of how stupid he could be to slip up like that on camera twice than they are actually mad at the conduct.

Wouldn’t be much blowback signing Ja. Wouldn’t be a tenth of signing Mike Vick. People were passionately against that guy even being free and he still got signed. People aren’t that upset at Ja. You wouldn’t see the massive protests like with Vick.

Hed have to actually harm someone for that.

[Patrick Chewing]

There is no way they would even ask for the top pick. Now would they ask Portland for their pick? Maybe.

If you just want him gone you wouldn’t make a request like Wemby. Spurs wouldn’t do that without the “controversy”.

You got me really thinking about this potential trade now. I think small market teams like the OKC's and the Orlando's don't want that drama. And Memphis has nothing but drama surrounding them right now between Ja and Brooks. So realistically, I think a big market team makes all the sense in the world. Knicks need to make a splash. I give Leon Rose one more year before we run his ass out. And salaries would have to match. Small market teams can't absorb the cost. So teams like New York, Los Angeles, Miami, and Chicago make sense.

[coin24]

You got me really thinking about this potential trade now. I think small market teams like the OKC's and the Orlando's don't want that drama. And Memphis has nothing but drama surrounding them right now between Ja and Brooks. So realistically, I think a big market team makes all the sense in the world. Knicks need to make a splash. I give Leon Rose one more year before we run his ass out. And salaries would have to match. Small market teams can't absorb the cost. So teams like New York, Los Angeles, Miami, and Chicago make sense.

Might be a good opportunity to offload Randle/Barrett.. no one else will want them

Orlando should trade for him aswel, their roster is trash they could use some attention.


Portland doesn’t make much sense, or Okc..

[bdonovan]

Warriors deal Klay Thompson and Divincenzo for Morant

[Full Court]

I'd be thrilled if the Bulls traded Lavine for him.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Shipping Ja to OKC would be the ultimate punishment for him,

[kawhileonard2]

Given his max salary, current standing within the conduct policy, and the fact his team plays better without him… I dont think its foolishness at all.

Maybe someone trades for him… but maybe nobody does. Neither would surprise me.

Zach Lavine for Ja then we really get to see if he wants to play with guns in Chicago

[Kblaze8855]

You got me really thinking about this potential trade now. I think small market teams like the OKC's and the Orlando's don't want that drama. And Memphis has nothing but drama surrounding them right now between Ja and Brooks. So realistically, I think a big market team makes all the sense in the world. Knicks need to make a splash. I give Leon Rose one more year before we run his ass out. And salaries would have to match. Small market teams can't absorb the cost. So teams like New York, Los Angeles, Miami, and Chicago make sense.


Herro for Ja. Heat culture loves a “He’s a cancer!” challenge. Memphis can’t play hardball if they really want him gone. Herro perfect sixth man. Who says no?

[Full Court]

Herro for Ja. Heat culture loves a “He’s a cancer!” challenge. Memphis can’t play hardball if they really want him gone. Herro perfect sixth man. Who says no?

That would be a horrible trade. Memphis should be able to get somebody WAAAYYYY better than Herro for Morant. Why would they trade an all star for a role player?

[Kblaze8855]

That would be a horrible trade. Memphis should be able to get somebody WAAAYYYY better than Herro for Morant. Why would they trade an all star for a role player?

this is the funny thing about the Internet. Two groups of people can be entirely serious, and one will tell you teams won’t want a player at all, and the other will tell you a young sixth man of the year is way too little to trade for him.

[Full Court]

this is the funny thing about the Internet. Two groups of people can be entirely serious, and one will tell you teams won’t want a player at all, and the other will tell you a young sixth man of the year is way too little to trade for him.

Both groups can't be right.

For me, I don't believe that the offensive firepower Morant brings won't be in demand.

[FultzNationRISE]

Teams only care about actual criminal activity to the extent the public relation disaster isn’t worth the talent anymore. Perfectly legal, but annoying activity from a young superstar?

The Spurs signed Stephen Jackson(for a second time) after he got arrested for a strip club fight during which he shot(supposedly in the air) 5-6 times…while he was already on probation.

Same GM, coach, and owner from then. They brought him back when Lebron was on the Heat.

They don’t care about actual crime. They certainly don’t care about manufactured crime like Morants situation. Its just a PR question. And nba fans are more in awe of how stupid he could be to slip up like that on camera twice than they are actually mad at the conduct.

Wouldn’t be much blowback signing Ja. Wouldn’t be a tenth of signing Mike Vick. People were passionately against that guy even being free and he still got signed. People aren’t that upset at Ja. You wouldn’t see the massive protests like with Vick.

Hed have to actually harm someone for that.

Im not talking about the PR aspect at all.

Im talking about strictly can your team count on him to provide positive value overall.

If hes gonna keep getting himself suspended the answer is no. If he takes up a max salary and doesnt move the wins and losses needle, which was PROVEN in Memphis, then no. And if you have to trade anything significant for all that… no.

And Stephen Jackson was brought back to the Spurs on a vet minimum to be a bench guy for a playoff run. They dont build their team around foul ups.

[Full Court]

Whatever happens, the Grizzlies need to figure out a way to build the team around Kenneth Lofton Jr.

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[Kblaze8855]

Both groups can't be right.

For me, I don't believe that the offensive firepower Morant brings won't be in demand.

Obviously, teams are going to want him. What’s going to happen is a massive suspension is announced and we get two or three reports of anonymous executives telling Twitter reporters they’re out on any potential deal. The people who think nobody will want him will proclaim victory and eventually be proven wrong and move the goal post to claim victory about the anonymous and irrelevant hesitation.

The only thing that could really slow it down would be one of those dreaded indefinite suspensions during which idiots will claim he’s never going to be allowed back before a few months pass, and they announce a path to reinstatement that’s a bunch of bullshit. Charities and statements.

Then he’s back.

The same GMs, owners, and coaches in many cases had or wanted multiple accused rapists and woman beaters. There will be no moral hangup. This is all perception based to avoid a fallout that won’t even come. Nobody is that mad at Ja they will come out to majorly protest.

[Full Court]

Obviously, teams are going to want him. What’s going to happen is a massive suspension is announced and we get two or three reports of anonymous executives telling Twitter reporters they’re out on any potential deal. The people who think nobody will want him will proclaim victory and eventually be proven wrong and move the goal post to claim victory about the anonymous and irrelevant hesitation.

The only thing that could really slow it down would be one of those dreaded indefinite suspensions during which idiots will claim he’s never going to be allowed back before a few months pass, and they announce a path to reinstatement that’s a bunch of bullshit. Charities and statements.

Then he’s back.

The same GMs, owners, and coaches in many cases had or wanted multiple accused rapists and woman beaters. There will be no moral hangup. This is all perception based to avoid a fallout that won’t even come. Nobody is that mad at Ja they will come out to majorly protest.

I expect it will pan out exactly like you said.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Even without the drama, he's not a high impact player. And he's heavily reliant on athleticism. With the drama he's not worth a second look unless you're desperate for jersey and ticket sales.

[Full Court]

Even without the drama, he's not a high impact player. And he's heavily reliant on athleticism. With the drama he's not worth a second look unless you're desperate for jersey and ticket sales.

Saying a guy that can take a game over in the 4th quarter is not high impact is just silly.

[FultzNationRISE]

Saying a guy that can take a game over in the 4th quarter is not high impact is just silly.

You mean like a Caleb Martin?

You dont even have to draft those guys, let alone trade for them and pay the max.

[Kblaze8855]

Im not talking about the PR aspect at all.

Im talking about strictly can your team count on him to provide positive value overall.

If hes gonna keep getting himself suspended the answer is no. If he takes up a max salary and doesnt move the wins and losses needle, which was PROVEN in Memphis, then no. And if you have to trade anything significant for all that… no.

And Stephen Jackson was brought back to the Spurs on a vet minimum to be a bench guy for a playoff run. They dont build their team around foul ups.


I really can’t believe how often I have to point out how little these contracts mean. Ja wont even be making 40 million till 4 seasons from now. 40 million barely matters now. It would make you the 18th highest paid player next season. Have you any idea how much the cap goes up the next 4 years? 40 million for Ja 4 years from now?

Im not gonna do the math for the 400th time because nobody cares but I’ll just say…wait it out. He’s on a really really team friendly deal people just won’t grab a calculator and figure that out. People just hate the word “max”. All these deals signed before the new rights deal are gonna seem minuscule. And his is still cheap now some fans just can’t get their heads around how that could be.

He’s a cost controlled young star with a PR issue. He’s a bargain.

Players are gonna be making 70 million a season before long. All these young locked in guys are a deal.

[FultzNationRISE]

I really can’t believe how often I have to point out how little these contracts mean. Ja wont even be making 40 million till 4 seasons from now. 40 million barely matters now. It would make you the 18th highest paid player next season. Have you any idea how much the cap goes up the next 4 years? 40 million for Ja 4 years from now?


Why would I make him the 30th highest paid player when he’s overrated on the court and a hat drop from another suspension off it? Why would I pay him Top 60 money? Im not impressed with his impact to begin with, and he’s liable to be the next Aaron Hernandez on top of that.

You wanna give every overrated media ‘name’ a max deal all the time, I get it.

Maybe someone else will want him on his current deal. But with all his excess baggage and the fact you have to trade for him, there might be less market than you think.

[Full Court]

You mean like a Caleb Martin?

You dont even have to draft those guys, let alone trade for them and pay the max.

And now you're comparing Morant with Caleb Martin.... :roll:

You have to be trolling at this point.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Why would I make him the 30th highest paid player when he’s overrated on the court and a hat drop from another suspension off it? Why would I pay him Top 60 money? Im not impressed with his impact to begin with, and he’s liable to be the next Aaron Hernandez on top of that.

You wanna give every overrated media ‘name’ a max deal all the time, I get it.

Maybe someone else will want him on his current deal. But with all his excess baggage and the fact you have to trade for him, there might be less market than you think.

It's weird - it's like they don't understand not all stars are built the same and worthy of paying big money, regardless if it's a "good" deal or not. There's some guys you just shouldn't want leading your franchise. Boogie, Ja, Melo, etc are guys I DON'T want regardless if it's a "good" deal on paper.

[Kblaze8855]

Why would I make him the 30th highest paid player when he’s overrated on the court and a hat drop from another suspension off it? Why would I pay him Top 60 money? Im not impressed with his impact to begin with, and he’s liable to be the next Aaron Hernandez on top of that.

You wanna give every overrated media ‘name’ a max deal all the time, I get it.

Maybe someone else will want him on his current deal. But with all his excess baggage and the fact you have to trade for him, there might be less market than you think.


It doesn’t matter what “I” want. Markets are what they are. He’s a max player. He would be for every single team. What you think about that is…fine. Doesn’t matter to the real world. You don’t set the prices for merchandise be it Basketball or hot wings. League has spoken and will continue to speak. All these players are max…because max is there to artificially limit their pay. Teams are and will always be fine paying people like ja the max. You’re free not to like it. You’re not free to set the prices any more than you set them for a Pepsi.

[Patrick Chewing]

Might be a good opportunity to offload Randle/Barrett.. no one else will want them

Orlando should trade for him aswel, their roster is trash they could use some attention.


Portland doesn’t make much sense, or Okc..

Yeah sadly we'd probably lose Barrett cause Morant would move to SG with Brunson running point. I'm greedy. I'm wondering if the Knicks can get JJ and Bane too from the Grizz.

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[FultzNationRISE]

It doesn’t matter what “I” want. Markets are what they are. He’s a max player. He would be for every single team. What you think about that is…fine. Doesn’t matter to the real world. You don’t set the prices for merchandise be it Basketball or hot wings. League has spoken and will continue to speak. All these players are max…because max is there to artificially limit their pay. Teams are and will always be fine paying people like ja the max. You’re free not to like it. You’re not free to set the prices any more than you set them for a Pepsi.


The point is it’s still a max by today’s standards, and a lot of money. Given his current circumstance, teams may be more hesitant to commit to him that way than before he had these issues and when it was less clear he’s not a difference maker.

The issues and the team’s success without him may drop his market value. It is at the very least, possible. No matter how much it upsets you.

[Kblaze8855]

Yes. I’m the one upset about how other people value the players they continue the pay the contracts you oppose to no effect while they and their billionaire status accountants, keep telling them I’m right, and you don’t understand their business. Great.

Now…let’s go on and skip past the “Nobody would want him” bullshit as I asked to begin with and stick to the real world where teams sign actual criminals and will obviously take a young, cost controlled, superstar with a pr problem.

Heat? Blazers?

[FultzNationRISE]

Yes. I’m the one upset about how other people value the players they continue the pay the contracts you oppose to no effect. Great.

Now…let’s go on and skip past the “Nobody would want him” bullshit as I asked to begin with and stick to the real world where teams sign actual criminals and will obviously take a young, cost controlled, superstar with a pr problem.

Heat? Blazers?


Youre the one who thinks teams will line up to trade for him.

Call your shot.

Tell us where you think he goes.

[Axe]

The fact that even his very own team doesn't like him to be there anymore just totally says something about his prickish character.

[Kblaze8855]

Youre the one who thinks teams will line up to trade for him.

Call your shot.

Tell us where you think he goes.

Heat and Spurs make sense. People are talking Celtics in a sign and trade for Jaylen.

You rather pay Brown 62 million 4 years from now or Ja 40?

[hateraid]

Sixers will take the AI clone. Harden is out anyways

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

If I were another team, I wouldn't trade star for star unless it's someone like Westbrook(when he was making 40m+) for Ja. After the first gun incident, had a special interview with Jalen Rose on how he will turn over a new leaf. Two months later the same stuff. That mental weakness on top of how reckless he plays on court, no thank you.

[Full Court]

The fact that even his very own team doesn't like him to be there anymore just totally says something about his prickish character.

Things that trigger dinguses:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Full Court
3. JA MORANT

:lebroncry:

[Axe]

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Op, is this really true? :lebronamazed:

[Full Court]

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[DMAVS41]

Heat and Spurs make sense. People are talking Celtics in a sign and trade for Jaylen.

You rather pay Brown 62 million 4 years from now or Ja 40?

Something involving Herro makes a lot of sense imo, but I think you need more than just Herro if you are the Grizzlies. Martin / Herro for Ja...I'd honestly probably do that if I was the Heat and the Grizzlies. I like it for both teams.

I'd also do Brown for Ja if I was both teams.

I think both of those teams would improve each team involved.

[tpols]

Something involving Herro makes a lot of sense imo, but I think you need more than just Herro if you are the Grizzlies. Martin / Herro for Ja...I'd honestly probably do that if I was the Heat and the Grizzlies. I like it for both teams.

I'd also do Brown for Ja if I was both teams.

I think both of those teams would improve each team involved.

Jaylen Brown is a way better talent than Martin or Herro combined even. If the Heat got Ja for that it would be a fleece.

[Axe]

Even without the drama, he's not a high impact player. And he's heavily reliant on athleticism. With the drama he's not worth a second look unless you're desperate for jersey and ticket sales.
Yep. Obviously statpadded on the fourth quarter of game 3 against the lakers in the first round and still played over 40 minutes when the game was essentially over already, as the grizz were down by double digits for most of the game. And yet, we have low iq braindead fools here saying it had a huge impact lolol.

[DMAVS41]

Jaylen Brown is a way better talent than Martin or Herro combined even. If the Heat got Ja for that it would be a fleece.

I agree Brown is worth more...not sure what that has to do with my post though.

[tpols]

I agree Brown is worth more...not sure what that has to do with my post though.

All I'm saying is Jas value is too low. I don't even like him but his talent is borderline superstar when he's not acting a fool.

It's worth taking a gamble on imo. You can't win big if you don't bet big.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Celtics should only consider JB for Morant if JB wants out and it doesn't sound like he does. The Celtics could consider bringing in Morant to make an offensive Big 3 but the Celtics have a good guard rotation so it would have to be a cheap price to pay.

[tpols]

Celtics should only consider JB for Morant if JB wants out and it doesn't sound like he does. The Celtics could consider bringing in Morant to make an offensive Big 3 but the Celtics have a good guard rotation so it would have to be a cheap price to pay.

Morant would be nasty on the Celtics.

[DMAVS41]

All I'm saying is Jas value is too low. I don't even like him but his talent is borderline superstar when he's not acting a fool.

It's worth taking a gamble on imo. You can't win big if you don't bet big.

I'm not sure what Ja's value is around the league right now. I think both things I said above are in the realm of reasonable for the specific situations of each team involved. The Grizzlies are ****ing really good without Ja. They have everyone important coming back on good deals next year. You just add Martin/Herro to that group and I think they would be quite scary...in addition...it would allow them the flexibility to pay Tyus and Bane going forward as well.

As for Brown, Ja is on a much better contract so I'd rather have Ja than Brown given that and combined with the dynamic of the team the Celtics have.

[FultzNationRISE]

Morant would be nasty on the Celtics.


Why did the Grizzlies win more without him over a significant sample size?

[tpols]

Why did the Grizzlies win more without him over a significant sample size?

That's only the regular season where things can be grit out. You can't win a title without superstar performances. This ain't 2004. Ja is capable of 40-50 point playoff outbursts in any given playoff game which can swing a series.

[Axe]

That's only the regular season where things can be grit out. You can't win a title without superstar performances. This ain't 2004. Ja is capable of 40-50 point playoff outbursts in any given playoff game which can swing a series.
But the thing about that is, for this year, his team immediately won game two against the lakers without him. After that lonesome absence, he statpadded his way to 45 points on a loss. The only game they won with him in the first round was game five. Overall, they were 1-0 without him, 1-4 with him during that series earlier. That's why it's fair to say he can never win league mvp too. The results are there to show it.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Yeah sadly we'd probably lose Barrett cause Morant would move to SG with Brunson running point. I'm greedy. I'm wondering if the Knicks can get JJ and Bane too from the Grizz.

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"Tell me your not a Knicks fan by telling me your a Knicks fan", jk. Why would ANY team want those 3 knicks player for their top 3 players. Make is fair, throw in Brunson and keep one of the R's/couple 1st rds.

I had to look again, maybe my eyes was playing tricks on me lol. You know all 3 of those knicks players you mentioned, not one is better then any of those Memphis guys you listed. You think by adding 3 first rounds will make it equal?

[tpols]

But the thing about that is, for this year, his team immediately won game two against the lakers without him. After that lonesome absence, he statpadded his way to 45 points on a loss. The only game they won with him in the first round was game five. Overall, they were 1-0 without him, 1-4 with him during that series earlier. That's why it's fair to say he can never win league mvp too. The results are there to show it.

Game 2 at home being down 0-1 is a gimme. Easy bet. Game 3 at LA the grizzlies probably would've lost with prime Michael Jordan given their homecourt whistle. Ja shot great in that game too. It takes a lot to beat the WWE.

[Axe]

Game 2 at home being down 0-1 is a gimme. Easy bet. Game 3 at LA the grizzlies probably would've lost with prime Michael Jordan given their homecourt whistle. Ja shot great in that game too. It takes a lot to beat the WWE.
Yeah sure but we are talking about on-court impact here, whether with whistles or not. It would be nice if his talent actually translated into winning games, especially ones in the postseason. Too bad what we saw earlier was the opposite tho.

[highwhey]

ayton+ ay ton of 1st round picks


les go

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'm not sure what Ja's value is around the league right now. I think both things I said above are in the realm of reasonable for the specific situations of each team involved. The Grizzlies are ****ing really good without Ja. They have everyone important coming back on good deals next year. You just add Martin/Herro to that group and I think they would be quite scary...in addition...it would allow them the flexibility to pay Tyus and Bane going forward as well.

As for Brown, Ja is on a much better contract so I'd rather have Ja than Brown given that and combined with the dynamic of the team the Celtics have.
Morant value is damaged by a coming suspension of unknown length and uncertainty about whether or not he will get more suspensions for stupid behavior. Brown is due more money but he doesn't have that problem. Morant is better for creating offense but the Celtics have made a lot of conference finals with JB as their second best player, so I have to disagree with the idea that he doesn't fit well with the Celtics. You just don't want to have him initiating the offense with his current ballhandling but as a #2 option he's as good as anyone.

[8Ball]

Even without the drama, he's not a high impact player. And he's heavily reliant on athleticism. With the drama he's not worth a second look unless you're desperate for jersey and ticket sales.

His career will end up like Derrick Rose's.

He runs into the rim way too much in traffic, jumps like crazy and gets hurt a ton from it. Nearly broke his hand running into AD in game 1.

Won't last.

[John8204]

Old guys on big contracts

Portland - move Dame for Ja
Phoenix - CPIII for Ja

[Patrick Chewing]

"Tell me your not a Knicks fan by telling me your a Knicks fan", jk. Why would ANY team want those 3 knicks player for their top 3 players. Make is fair, throw in Brunson and keep one of the R's/couple 1st rds.

I had to look again, maybe my eyes was playing tricks on me lol. You know all 3 of those knicks players you mentioned, not one is better then any of those Memphis guys you listed. You think by adding 3 first rounds will make it equal?

Not too many players are better than Ja Morant. And that's not how trades work. You trade to match value/salary. And considering Memphis wants to trade, their asking price would be lower with the baggage that Morant brings. Yes, that trade was a bit slanted when adding Bane and JJ.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Op, is this really true? :lebronamazed:

Bob: Miami just beat Boston and going to the finals.
Full_LeBron: and LeShrivel gone fishing

Charlie: Spur's got the 2023 #1 draft pick
Full_Lebron: LeShrinkWannbeGM will order Jeanie Buss to trade for Wenbanyama and stack the deck.

Frank: Who was a better clutch 3pt shooter Ray Allen or Reggie Miller?
Full_Lebron: Ray Allen saved LeChoke

Tom: Shaq or Hakeem to build your team around?
Full_Lebron: LeShrink couldn't win with Shaq.

Man From Nowhere: *farts*
Full_Lebron: that stinks just like LeCrapStain

Full_LeMentalObsession..

[Proctor]

Heat and Spurs make sense. People are talking Celtics in a sign and trade for Jaylen.

You rather pay Brown 62 million 4 years from now or Ja 40?
Heat make moderate sense but in what world do the Spurs make sense?

The Spurs aren't going to make a move for a guy who is reckless on the court and a complete idiot off and who is destined to have a Rose-like career if, and only if, he can manage to stop being a moron.

https://media.tenor.com/tJnVO5GKpmEAAAAC/ja-morant-dance.gif

Pop will have fun with that!

[Patrick Chewing]

Heat make moderate sense but in what world do the Spurs make sense?

The Spurs aren't going to make a move for a guy who is reckless on the court and a complete idiot off and who is destined to have a Rose-like career if, and only if, he can manage to stop being a moron.

https://media.tenor.com/tJnVO5GKpmEAAAAC/ja-morant-dance.gif

Pop will have fun with that!

I can see Jimmy Butler strangling Ja on the court if he acted up. Heat only works if he changes his ways which we know he won't. Ja down in South Beach don't work either.

[DMAVS41]

Morant value is damaged by a coming suspension of unknown length and uncertainty about whether or not he will get more suspensions for stupid behavior. Brown is due more money but he doesn't have that problem. Morant is better for creating offense but the Celtics have made a lot of conference finals with JB as their second best player, so I have to disagree with the idea that he doesn't fit well with the Celtics. You just don't want to have him initiating the offense with his current ballhandling but as a #2 option he's as good as anyone.

I never said Brown doesn't fit well. I simply said I'd rather have Ja on his contract than Brown on the Celtics over the next few years.

[Axe]

Bob: Miami just beat Boston and going to the finals.
Full_LeBron: and LeShrivel gone fishing

Charlie: Spur's got the 2023 #1 draft pick
Full_Lebron: LeShrinkWannbeGM will order Jeanie Buss to trade for Wenbanyama and stack the deck.

Frank: Who was a better clutch 3pt shooter Ray Allen or Reggie Miller?
Full_Lebron: Ray Allen saved LeChoke

Tom: Shaq or Hakeem to build your team around?
Full_Lebron: LeShrink couldn't win with Shaq.

Man From Nowhere: *farts*
Full_Lebron: that stinks just like LeCrapStain

Full_LeMentalObsession..
:oldlol:

What's ironic is that he calls him a loser but still can't get him and his fans off his broken damn mind.

[Full Court]

Bob: Miami just beat Boston and going to the finals.
Full_LeBron: and LeShrivel gone fishing

Charlie: Spur's got the 2023 #1 draft pick
Full_Lebron: LeShrinkWannbeGM will order Jeanie Buss to trade for Wenbanyama and stack the deck.

Frank: Who was a better clutch 3pt shooter Ray Allen or Reggie Miller?
Full_Lebron: Ray Allen saved LeChoke

Tom: Shaq or Hakeem to build your team around?
Full_Lebron: LeShrink couldn't win with Shaq.

Man From Nowhere: *farts*
Full_Lebron: that stinks just like LeCrapStain

Full_LeMentalObsession..

Everything in bold is correct. :lol

[Full Court]

:oldlol:

What's ironic is that he calls him a loser but still can't get him and his fans off his broken damn mind.

Imagine getting so upset by someone criticizing a public figure. :lol

What a weeping dingus.

[Axe]

https://i.ibb.co/4K7DdP6/IMG-20230505-103422.jpg
Lol.

[Full Court]

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-HJm7_WTeiKQ%2FUfAZ9-io9YI%2FAAAAAAAAANw%2F0b0MwIC5GwE%2Fs1600%2Fcharli e_and_the_chocolate_factory_willy_wonka_gene_wilde r_1920x1080_wallpaper_Wallpaper_2560x1440_sarcasti c.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=fd7be856a746dab39e834ffbb77728b12c911da524b621 b6f802e86aee07aaf2&ipo=images
"Cute little dingus."

[Axe]

https://i.ibb.co/JmpGnKz/IMG-20230528-095117.jpg

[Full Court]

Here's an experiment to see how upset the dingus gets by the following:

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP. mxtFbl3OKckKGCRHg-31kgHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=6b1375ed2bb8dc7503a0bf6cf6f416f6e4463757db2254 df48962ada06d2e7e8&ipo=images

[Axe]

^^Three-minute differential to prove he's always butthurt. :yaohappy:

[Full Court]

:roll: :roll:


I knew it.


Question for the greater population: is it messed up to pick on someone who's autistic?

[Axe]

Who's jeff lenchiner?

[Real Men Wear Green]

I never said Brown doesn't fit well. I simply said I'd rather have Ja on his contract than Brown on the Celtics over the next few years.
Ok but even taking a longer view Brown's game is going to age better. The pull up midrange jumper Brown had developed will keep him effective into his 30s. Morant has yet to develop a game that isn't based on his overwhelming athletic ability and you definitely have added injury concern due to the way he attacks the basket with his slight frame.

[Full Court]

Who's jeff lenchiner?

:roll:

What a dingus. Doesn't even know who Jeff is. Or that his name is capitalized per grammatical rules.

:roll:

[Real Men Wear Green]

The dingus/merman routine has been beaten to death and was never that clever to begin with. I'm gonna need you guys to get funnier with this beef or just end it.

[Full Court]

The dingus/merman routine has been beaten to death and was never that clever to begin with. I'm gonna need you guys to get funnier with this beef or just end it.

I got you.

It's about to get funnier.....

[Axe]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494647-Mr-Jeffrey-Lenchiner-aka-Insidehoops-went-to-the-playboy-mansion

:confusedshrug:

[Full Court]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494647-Mr-Jeffrey-Lenchiner-aka-Insidehoops-went-to-the-playboy-mansion

:confusedshrug:

^:oldlol:

https://i.imgflip.com/6hnq7a.jpg

[Axe]

The dingus/merman routine has been beaten to death and was never that clever to begin with. I'm gonna need you guys to get funnier with this beef or just end it.
Essentially everyone on this site thinks his insults are gay lmao. No wonder he's so autistic he's the only one capable of praising himself itb.

[Full Court]

Here's another social experiment:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/9d9c66cc0d58c7a816ac3a123ccb533f/tumblr_inline_ncuktuvkXR1qbngxv.gif

[1987_Lakers]

The dingus/merman routine has been beaten to death and was never that clever to begin with. I'm gonna need you guys to get funnier with this beef or just end it.

For real, I don't know how these two posters can go around and argue with each other all day with the same insults that a 10 year old would say. It's beyond pathetic at this point.

[Wardell Curry]

For real, I don't know how these two posters can go around and argue with each other all day with the same insults that a 10 year old would say. It's beyond pathetic at this point.

How old do you think they are though?

[Axe]

It doesn't matter. It's just proven here several times that the most staunch lebron haters are obsessed psychopaths.

[DMAVS41]

Ok but even taking a longer view Brown's game is going to age better. The pull up midrange jumper Brown had developed will keep him effective into his 30s. Morant has yet to develop a game that isn't based on his overwhelming athletic ability and you definitely have added injury concern due to the way he attacks the basket with his slight frame.

I'm not sure it would make sense to worry about how Morant's game is going to age when you'd be getting him at age 24.

Always a risk when making moves...not like I'd call the Celtics dumb for not making the trade if it was on the table. I'd just rather have Morant next to Tatum and I'd much rather have Morant's contract than what Jaylen is about to get.

[Patrick Chewing]

The dingus/merman routine has been beaten to death and was never that clever to begin with. I'm gonna need you guys to get funnier with this beef or just end it.

Please ban Axe for a week or longer.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Imagine getting so upset by someone criticizing a public figure. :lol

What a weeping dingus.

Imagine getting so upset by a public figure.

Trully LeMentalObsession.

[Jasper]

I keep reading reports about it from Windhorst.

I suppose the question is…

Who would give up what?

Let’s bypass the “Nobody would trade for” foolishness. He becomes available someone makes an offer.

Who do you imagine offers what?


Portland give up that pick and filler to placate Dame?

orlando and 5 players

[SATAN]

Please ban Axe for a week or longer.

You are such a coward. Axe has you raging and begging the mods for help. :roll:

[Full Court]

For real, I don't know how these two posters can go around and argue with each other all day with the same insults that a 10 year old would say. It's beyond pathetic at this point.

:lebroncry:

You know what's worse? Not knowing what an advanced stat is. :lol

[Full Court]

You are such a coward. Axe has you raging and begging the mods for help. :roll:

^Beezleblubber in a bitch fit. :lol

[Full Court]

Essentially everyone on this site thinks his insults are gay lmao. No wonder he's so autistic he's the only one capable of praising himself itb.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic1.srcdn.com%2Fwordpress%2Fw p-content%2Fuploads%2F2022%2F05%2FHector-Salamanca-in-Better-Call-Saul-Season-6.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=9cdc429254ba2a38f7e22959f654b5e249eafeab49878d 2b3787e33d8d97868e&ipo=images

Shocking...

[Axe]

^^Sore loser really can't help but quote users who make him feel so butthurt each day. :roll:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRAMVPSWOfCVmntoiYJIReHqvCvafhff YCrhQ&usqp=CAU

[theman93]

Might be a good opportunity to offload Randle/Barrett.. no one else will want them

Orlando should trade for him aswel, their roster is trash they could use some attention.


Portland doesn’t make much sense, or Okc..

Nah, Orlando needs a guard who can spread the floor. Morant ain’t that. I’d rather keep developing Fultz than take on Morant’s baggage.

[Full Court]

^^Sore loser really can't help but quote users who make him feel so butthurt each day. :roll:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRAMVPSWOfCVmntoiYJIReHqvCvafhff YCrhQ&usqp=CAU

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fthumbs.dreamstime.com%2Fz%2Fcarto on-merman-angry-expression-41819091.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=5180fdd04e47d070fd603ac88b9a040dd629221fc417d8 5f62c5647639ef264e&ipo=images


:lebronamazed:

[Axe]

Imagine getting so upset by a public figure.

Trully LeMentalObsession.
Lol