I Don't Wanna Hear About Emibiid No More

[Noyze]

He cried for 2 years to get his MVP and choked when it counted. Yokic is the real MVP

[SouBeachTalents]

I still say he's better than Jokic.

[kawhileonard2]

Head to head Embiid outplays him.

[HighFlyer23]

Embiid

[BarberSchool]

Embiid is clearly the superior 1on1 scorer between the two.
Clearly the better athlete.

But Jokic, as a team player, is vastly superior.
As a teammate, vastly superior.
As a coachable player… vastly superior.

Most importantly, Jokic mentally is vastly superior.

Jokic doesn’t play against your squad, he is playing against the opposing coaching staff.

[RRR3]

Embiid is clearly the superior 1on1 scorer between the two.
Clearly the better athlete.

But Jokic, as a team player, is vastly superior.
As a teammate, vastly superior.
As a coachable player… vastly superior.

Most importantly, Jokic mentally is vastly superior.

Jokic doesn’t play against your squad, he is playing against the opposing coaching staff.
Did you watch the playoffs? :roll: :facepalm

[FultzNationRISE]

Head to head Embiid outplays him.

Always?

Or just in their first meeting this season before Embiid ducked the rematch in favor of “load managing?”

[Noyze]

Embiid is more aesthetically pleasing to watch. But he's injury prone, not as clutch and doesn't create anywhere near as much offense. Better defender but he gets tired when playing heavy minutes. PJ Tucker had to motivate him into not shrinking, the dude is on the floor all the time cause he can't land of his feet. Is Al Horford stopping Yokic? I mean, what are we talking about?

[j3lademaster]

Embiid is more aesthetically pleasing to watch. But he's injury prone, not as clutch and doesn't create anywhere near as much offense. Better defender but he gets tired when playing heavy minutes. PJ Tucker had to motivate him into not shrinking, the dude is on the floor all the time cause he can't land off his feet. Is Al Horford stopping Yokic? I mean, what are we talking about?I disagree. I find Joker’s game more aesthetically pleasing.

[j3lademaster]

Embiid is clearly the superior 1on1 scorer between the two.
Clearly the better athlete.

But Jokic, as a team player, is vastly superior.
As a teammate, vastly superior.
As a coachable player… vastly superior.

Most importantly, Jokic mentally is vastly superior.

Jokic doesn’t play against your squad, he is playing against the opposing coaching staff.Joker is a better one on one scorer in the playoffs by far. Even athleticism is arguable. Embiid actually doesn’t have great body control and balance. It’s why he spends so much time on the ground despite being the biggest, strongest guy on the court at any given time. Jokic is also better conditioned, evident in his ability to constantly push the pace himself after a rebound. Jokic has elite balance and control. Embiid… is slightly stronger(in the traditional sense) and jumps higher(not saying much).

[FultzNationRISE]

Joker is a better one on one scorer in the playoffs by far. Even athleticism is arguable. Embiid actually doesn’t have great body control and balance. It’s why he spends so much time on the ground despite being the biggest, strongest guy on the court at any given time. Jokic is also better conditioned, evident in his ability to constantly push the pace himself after a rebound. Jokic has elite balance and control. Embiid… is slightly stronger(in the traditional sense) and jumps higher(not saying much).

Yeah Jokic is definitely more coordinated, Embiid seems slightly more explosive altho Im certain Jokic could get up higher than he normally does, but specifically avoids leaving his feet to minimize injury risk. He’s a much better athlete than he shows, but theres just no need to exert that much stress on his big frame when he can dominate without doing so.

[SaltyMeatballs]

I still say he's better than Jokic.

How? He doesn't show up for the playoffs

[basketballcat]

Jokic >>> Embiid. Obviously.

[coin24]

Embeta routinely shrivels at the end of games, damn even al horford used to bully him :lol

Guy is the definition of a loser. Joker is a million times better than that clown

[bdonovan]

The Nuggets are a better team than the 76ers (and better coached). The Nuggets only lost four games the entire playoffs.

Embiid still has the upper-hand as both a scorer (#1 in the NBA while Jokic was 18th) and defender. Embiid also dominated the head to head matchups.

The Nuggets have a complementary set of parts, and have built a team style of play that is very effective- stifling defense, big team with length; and a fluid offense where the players communicate very well and all players have the responsibility to move without the basketball. It's no surprise Nuggets coach Malone did a stint with the Warriors.

Jokic had a stellar playoffs; from the standpoint of scoring, efficiency, 3 pt % this year. We'll see if he can repeat that kind of play in future postseasons.

[Micku]

The Nuggets are a better team than the 76ers (and better coached). The Nuggets only lost four games the entire playoffs.

Embiid still has the upper-hand as both a scorer (#1 in the NBA while Jokic was 18th) and defender. Embiid also dominated the head to head matchups.

The Nuggets have a complementary set of parts, and have built a team style of play that is very effective- stifling defense, big team with length; and a fluid offense where the players communicate very well and all players have the responsibility to move without the basketball. It's no surprise Nuggets coach Malone did a stint with the Warriors.

Jokic had a stellar playoffs; from the standpoint of scoring, efficiency, 3 pt % this year. We'll see if he can repeat that kind of play in future postseasons.

It's been three years in a row he has been stellar imo. The only series where he had "bad" series to his standard was the 2021 series where Ayton did a good job slowing him down. And every year Jokic has performed better than he does in the regular season. Embiid hasn't done to Jokic's level just yet. The injury bug gets him.

It's definitely more accurate to question if Embiid can do it than Jokic. Jokic has more playoff success under his belt and went further than Embiid ever has, plus Jokic won a chip. Jokic competition was better. This year he went against Gobert, Ayton who slowed him down in 2021, AD, and Bam.

Embiid has to prove it in the playoffs and hopefully, he doesn't get injured. Atm, he's like James Harden. Performs wonderfully in the regular season, but not in the POs just yet. But he gets hurt, so it's bad luck for him. Hopefully next year.

[90sgoat]

Embiid is more aesthetically pleasing to watch.

How?

He just stumbles into the paint looking for fouls. Like a 7'1'' guard.

[AngelEyes]

Embiid doesn't belong in the same discussion as Jokic as a player. Jokic is far superior and raises his game when the pressure increases. Conversely, Embiid shrinks when the spotlight gets brighter. I've never seen a player like Embiid whine so much for an individual award only to come up so small when it matters most. As it currently stands, Embiid should not be compared to winners like Jokic, Giannis, and Curry. Those guys are in a different tier.

[BarberSchool]

Joker is a better one on one scorer in the playoffs by far. Even athleticism is arguable. Embiid actually doesn’t have great body control and balance. It’s why he spends so much time on the ground despite being the biggest, strongest guy on the court at any given time. Jokic is also better conditioned, evident in his ability to constantly push the pace himself after a rebound. Jokic has elite balance and control. Embiid… is slightly stronger(in the traditional sense) and jumps higher(not saying much).Jokic is the more efficient post scorer in the playoffs. And created more offense overall, at better efficiency.

But in strictly one on one scoring ability and diversity in many different scenarios, Embiid is the better one on one scorer.

Jokic is the far superior team player, the superior player mentally.

[tpols]

How?

He just stumbles into the paint looking for fouls. Like a 7'1'' guard.

Yea it's weird how people say that. Embiid isn't even athletic. He's huge and skilled and flops a lot. He isn't making moves like Iverson or dunking like Vince Carter.

Seems to be a wierd stereotype where because he's a black guy and jokic is a white guy the white guy has to be more boring. Usually I would agree in respect to athleticism but embiid isn't really athletic. He's big and skilled but low IQ team wise and relies on flops.

[brownmamba00]

Embiid can't run the team like Joker. He needs to get down to the basics and move down to the low post. He's 7'3 playing like a 6'5 scoring guard.

[tontoz]

It's been three years in a row he has been stellar imo. The only series where he had "bad" series to his standard was the 2021 series where Ayton did a good job slowing him down. And every year Jokic has performed better than he does in the regular season. Embiid hasn't done to Jokic's level just yet. The injury bug gets him.

It's definitely more accurate to question if Embiid can do it than Jokic. Jokic has more playoff success under his belt and went further than Embiid ever has, plus Jokic won a chip. Jokic competition was better. This year he went against Gobert, Ayton who slowed him down in 2021, AD, and Bam.

Embiid has to prove it in the playoffs and hopefully, he doesn't get injured. Atm, he's like James Harden. Performs wonderfully in the regular season, but not in the POs just yet. But he gets hurt, so it's bad luck for him. Hopefully next year.


Seriously Jokic's playoff numbers for his career are 27/12/7 with a 61% TS. He has been a beast consistently in the playoffs.

[Jasper]

Embiid is clearly the superior 1on1 scorer between the two.
Clearly the better athlete.

But Jokic, as a team player, is vastly superior.
As a teammate, vastly superior.
As a coachable player… vastly superior.

Most importantly, Jokic mentally is vastly superior.

Jokic doesn’t play against your squad, he is playing against the opposing coaching staff.

team sport Joker wins

[RRR3]

The Nuggets are a better team than the 76ers (and better coached). The Nuggets only lost four games the entire playoffs.

Embiid still has the upper-hand as both a scorer (#1 in the NBA while Jokic was 18th) and defender. Embiid also dominated the head to head matchups.

The Nuggets have a complementary set of parts, and have built a team style of play that is very effective- stifling defense, big team with length; and a fluid offense where the players communicate very well and all players have the responsibility to move without the basketball. It's no surprise Nuggets coach Malone did a stint with the Warriors.

Jokic had a stellar playoffs; from the standpoint of scoring, efficiency, 3 pt % this year. We'll see if he can repeat that kind of play in future postseasons.
Fuming.

[fourkicks44]

It feels like the majority of posters in this thread have never seen Joel or Nikola play before but feel the need to post absolute shit pretending to give insight on things they have no clue about.

You can look at stats for the regular season or the playoffs, advance stats, analytics, aggregation, whatever you want.

Ultimately tho being champion or being the best comes down to a few moments and a few playoff games that matter and everything that has come before pales in comparison. Every player plays in the regular season, very few play in the final rounds of the playoffs.

When it was there for the taking, when all the excuses were gone and it was time to finally to be proven, to become the one everyone who supported you needed you to be, to show you are who you say you are, Embiid did the opposite. He failed but make no mistake, it wasn't losing to the Celtics in game 7 in Boston that was the issue, it was the way he played and conducted himself that was the failure.

Jokic meanwhile took himself to another place and another level. His advance stats that he is so well known and been decorated for no longer mattered, only a handful of playoff games against the best competition left in the NBA. He took his team on his back and lead them to glory. He just DID IT.

That's the difference and that is why Jokic is better, and the gap if there was little before, has been pushed wider.

This is coming from the number 1 Sixers' fan on this message board and the number 1 Embiid fan since his first pre season game with the team.

If you don't know what the f'ck you a talking about and just spit out shit, you just look like an idiot at this point.

[Druckenmiller]

There’s no argument here. Jokic won Finals MVP in his last game of the season.

Embiid went 5 for 18 and blamed everyone else. We need more help. Me and James can’t do it all. How do you shoot 5-18 and then talk about doing it all?

Jokic is a better teammate. And a better player. The end.