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bdonovan
06-21-2023, 01:16 PM
Whatever little I've watched of Wembanyama, his game seems most similar to Kevin Durant. For a guy that tall to have ball-handling and driving capability. A good shooter as well.

One thing I heard about Wembanyama is his 3 pt shooting prowess. Keep in mind he shot under 30% in France from the 3 pt range.

He is lanky and needs to beef up. While you may be saying of course he will, he's just 19, there's a long list of European NBA players who never hit the gym. Then again, he could be like Giannis and bulk up considerably.

This video highlights some of his strengths and weaknesses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abId7q2Wk4A

Im Still Ballin
06-21-2023, 01:21 PM
I don't really care for the three-point shooting. The defense and the potential to score in the paint are what I'm most interested in. Let's hope he's more Giannis and AD than KD. A terror in the PnR, post, and a threat off the dribble. That's what he should be focusing on offense.

ShawkFactory
06-21-2023, 01:21 PM
I don’t think anyone is claiming that he doesn’t have any weaknesses or that he’s the GOAT.

He’s a prospect. And people gush over him in that context for good reason.

Im Still Ballin
06-21-2023, 01:32 PM
Something like a bigger version of Bubble AD would be the dream projection. With better off-the-dribble ability.

highwhey
06-21-2023, 01:45 PM
Patrick chewing weighed more in 2nd grade than this kid

Patrick Chewing
06-21-2023, 01:52 PM
Patrick chewing weighed more in 2nd grade than this kid

https://images2.imgbox.com/7c/1e/LfTyoOQj_o.png

Axe
06-21-2023, 02:21 PM
Patrick chewing weighed more in 2nd grade than this kid
:milton

Full Court
06-21-2023, 02:42 PM
I'm interested in seeing how his defense is.

meat
06-21-2023, 04:18 PM
Some people just can't "Bulk up" ... especially when there's some weird genetic factors goin on. They tried to do that with Shawn Bradley. Made him eat til he puked.

Nb1
06-21-2023, 04:34 PM
Whatever little I've watched of Wembanyama, his game seems most similar to Kevin Durant. For a guy that tall to have ball-handling and driving capability. A good shooter as well.

One thing I heard about Wembanyama is his 3 pt shooting prowess. Keep in mind he shot under 30% in France from the 3 pt range.

He is lanky and needs to beef up. While you may be saying of course he will, he's just 19, there's a long list of European NBA players who never hit the gym. Then again, he could be like Giannis and bulk up considerably.

This video highlights some of his strengths and weaknesses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abId7q2Wk4A

You don't really need to beef up. If you beef up with that size you will kill your joints and knees like Zion.

He's doing alot of resistance type training which is what he needs. Adding a bit of size is fine but he should def not beef up...

Im Still Ballin
06-22-2023, 03:42 AM
You don't really need to beef up. If you beef up with that size you will kill your joints and knees like Zion.

He's doing alot of resistance type training which is what he needs. Adding a bit of size is fine but he should def not beef up...

Adding size correctly and in a slow and steady manner is the key.

Giannis was like sub-200 pounds and slowly made it to 250+ pounds over 5-6 seasons. AD went from 215 pounds to like 253 pounds over 4-5 seasons. Moses was like 215 pounds and got up to 250-260 in his prime. Even KD got up to 243 pounds after coming into the NBA at 215.

Victor will definitely add weight; he's around 235 right now; I can see him being at least 255+ pounds. I'd like him to approach 260-270, but it depends on how good San Antonio's S&C crew is.

That extra strength and size will add a lot to his game. He'll be able to better shed contact and physicality and establish a better position in the paint on both ends.

bdonovan
06-22-2023, 04:16 AM
Adding size correctly and in a slow and steady manner is the key.

Giannis was like sub-200 pounds and slowly made it to 250+ pounds over 5-6 seasons. AD went from 215 pounds to like 253 pounds over 4-5 seasons. Moses was like 215 pounds and got up to 250-260 in his prime. Even KD got up to 243 pounds after coming into the NBA at 215.

Victor will definitely add weight; he's around 235 right now; I can see him being at least 255+ pounds. I'd like him to approach 260-270, but it depends on how good San Antonio's S&C crew is.

That extra strength and size will add a lot to his game. He'll be able to better shed contact and physicality and establish a better position in the paint on both ends.

Good observation and parallels. It will be a multi-year process.

coin24
06-22-2023, 05:45 AM
His tall skinny frame has frail bust written all over it.
Hope I’m wrong.

I said Zion would be a bust also, and he’s turned out to be a fat lazy piece of shit

Nb1
06-22-2023, 05:53 AM
Adding size correctly and in a slow and steady manner is the key.

Giannis was like sub-200 pounds and slowly made it to 250+ pounds over 5-6 seasons. AD went from 215 pounds to like 253 pounds over 4-5 seasons. Moses was like 215 pounds and got up to 250-260 in his prime. Even KD got up to 243 pounds after coming into the NBA at 215.

Victor will definitely add weight; he's around 235 right now; I can see him being at least 255+ pounds. I'd like him to approach 260-270, but it depends on how good San Antonio's S&C crew is.

That extra strength and size will add a lot to his game. He'll be able to better shed contact and physicality and establish a better position in the paint on both ends.

Depends on the style you play. Wembanyama isn’t a Giannis that just drives, he’s really skilled. Yes, he needs a bit more size but not beef up too much. AD is a terrible example, he’s the most injury prone player in the league. The heavier you are the more stress you will put on your body. What Wembanyama is doing is key and whats needed with that kind of resistance training. Because in any case in this soft era its not like he’s gonna get mauled by anyone who’ll toss him around. Jokic barely used his body, its just pure skill.

Im Still Ballin
06-22-2023, 06:29 AM
Depends on the style you play. Wembanyama isn’t a Giannis that just drives, he’s really skilled. Yes, he needs a bit more size but not beef up too much. AD is a terrible example, he’s the most injury prone player in the league. The heavier you are the more stress you will put on your body. What Wembanyama is doing is key and whats needed with that kind of resistance training. Because in any case in this soft era its not like he’s gonna get mauled by anyone who’ll toss him around. Jokic barely used his body, its just pure skill.

AD is literally the closest comparison in the NBA to Victor regarding skill, athleticism, and play style.

And it's clear you're talking out of your ass regarding basketball, strength and conditioning, and body composition. Play style is irrelevant because getting bigger, stronger, and generally more athletic benefits all types of players and positions.

AD was already 253 pounds by August 2015. From 215 pounds in college to 241 in 2014 to 253 in 2015. Almost 40 pounds added to his frame in three years.

Here's an NBA.com article on it:


https://www.nba.com/pelicans/news/anthony-davis-253-pounds-while-maintaining-athletic-frame

Imagine for a moment living in the foodie heaven of New Orleans and getting the green light from a trainer to eat larger portions at meals, including a recommendation to devour more seafood. It sounds like a dream scenario for any weight-conscious New Orleanian, but it’s been a reality this summer for All-NBA Pelicans power forward Anthony Davis. Entering his fourth pro season, the 22-year-old has worked to add more muscle and bulk to his frame. As a result, with training camp one month away, the 6-foot-10 Davis is 12 pounds heavier than he was last season, up to 253, while maintaining 10 percent body fat.

Without a lengthy commitment to USA Basketball this offseason, Davis has been able to consistently focus on a weight-training routine and modifying his diet. He spent a combined total of eight weeks in Los Angeles and Anguilla working daily with new Pelicans head strength and conditioning coach Jason Sumerlin, who continues to adjust the approach of Davis, a noted pizza lover.

“Our first phase was portion control,” said Sumerlin, taking over for Carlos Daniel, who left to further his education in the training field. “I wanted Anthony to eat more than he does, actually, because that’s the only way to gain weight. You have to get more protein, more calories. He’s never going to cut out pizza, but I finally got him to eat seafood, for the first time ever. He had salmon. He also has a chef now, so he’s become more adventurous when it comes to food and his diet. Changing his diet is a huge thing and probably half the battle.”

The second aspect of Davis’ muscle increase came from spending extensive time in the weight room with Sumerlin, getting on an uninterrupted lifting routine.

“He has been lifting consistently, doing all the small things perfectly and efficiently,” Sumerlin said of Davis’ regimen. “We are more consistent in his lifts and his corrective exercises. He’s lifted a lot more weight – he’s stronger than he’s ever been.”

The additional strength should allow Davis to hold his ground better against bigger frontcourt players he faces, some of whom have outweighed or outmuscled him in the past.

“He’s going to be stronger, faster, quicker and more explosive this year,” said Sumerlin, who has also emphasized core strength. “He talks about it all the time. He feels it. His trunk stability is a huge thing. Whenever he has been down low with the big guys, he kind of collapses (at his midsection). He’s starting to understand how to use his body more efficiently now.”

Since Davis arrived in New Orleans at age 19, the Pelicans have gradually added muscle to his frame, without negatively impacting the athleticism that makes him so difficult to defend, both in transition and halfcourt situations. Some of his dietary changes and body-mass improvements are a natural part of his maturation, as a No. 1 overall draft pick who entered the league after one banner college season at Kentucky.

“The main thing is we’re educating him,” Sumerlin said. “He’s still so young. It’s things like recovery, how to rest your body, how to sleep, how to hydrate your body – to drink water throughout the day and not just when you’re thirsty, because then it’s too late. We’re trying to introduce him to new, cleaner foods, things that are high protein and can be grilled or baked (instead of fried).”

To Davis’ credit, he’s quickly embraced each element of the Pelicans’ plans for his body, something Sumerlin believes is the No. 1 reason he’s been able to make noticeable progress each offseason.

“He’s got all the characteristics to be great,” Sumerlin said. “He wants to be great and says it every day. It makes my job a lot easier. It’s all him. He’s been grinding this summer. We’re going to see it on the court. He’s focused, not just physically, but mentally. He’s ready.”

Victor is like 235 right now. He could be 260-270 pounds faster than you'd think.

Spurs m8
06-22-2023, 07:59 AM
He's 19 lol

He will be fine.

He will actually live up to the hype, unlike LeFraud

Xiao Yao You
06-22-2023, 08:21 AM
he's not likely to stay healthy at his size. I see Ralph Sampson who beefed up to 250 and killed his knees

Lebron23
06-22-2023, 08:22 AM
He's 19 lol

He will be fine.

He will actually live up to the hype, unlike LeFraud

4x NBA MVP
4x Finals MVP

Wembayama is going to be an underachiever due to injuries

Rocket
06-22-2023, 11:17 AM
he's not likely to stay healthy at his size. I see Ralph Sampson who beefed up to 250 and killed his knees
This, nobody that tall has lasted very long in the NBA. Unfortunately he will likely be out of the league by the time he is 30 with several injury shortened years leading up to it.

Xiao Yao You
06-22-2023, 12:20 PM
This, nobody that tall has lasted very long in the NBA. Unfortunately he will likely be out of the league by the time he is 30 with several injury shortened years leading up to it.

the ones that have lasted were never the dominant player in the league. Odds are against the kid