Shams reporting 3 way trade being worked out to send KP to Boston and Brogdon to LA.

[Kblaze8855]

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[Wally450]

Great. We get to load manage our entire frontcourt. :applause: ..... :facepalm

I'd rather have Brogdon.

[theman93]

Nvm..thought they were trading Smart

[tontoz]

Hopefully we get more than just 2nd round picks.

[NBAGOAT]

This is really good for Boston. Porzingis was wizards best player last year and only has a year left. Is injury prone but was healthy last year. You can’t rely on horford to play 35mpg and timelord can’t play many minute either. You have enough guards with smart and white handling the ball, brogdon was the worst out of the 3 and injury prone.

Good for clippers too they get brogdon to start at pg for very little. Finally wizards will likely get a 1st from Boston can’t complain

[ArbitraryWater]

Clippers with more good moves.


Will it ever pay off though? lol

[Im Still Ballin]

I'm not sure what to make of this. Does it make Boston better? I don't know. Who do you start alongside Zinger? Horford or Williams?

[tontoz]

KP was good for us fwiw. He isn't a ball stopper he tries to play the right way.

[r15mohd]

it's a good swap if Horford is moving on...but Boston needs a true PG more than anything to get over the hump to me.

[Axe]

it's a good swap if Horford is moving on...but Boston needs a true PG more than anything to get over the hump to me.
I think cp3 could get some use for that only if he was a lot younger and not injury prone.

[Im Still Ballin]

KP's post-up game is actually pretty good now. He used to be terrible in Dallas. That provides a dynamic to Boston's half-court offense that they didn't really have.



Kristaps Porzinigis 2023 Post-Up Stats:

- 4.0 post touches per game
- 3.4 post-up possessions per game
- 1.18 points per possession
- 58% FG
- 23.2% FT frequency
- 9.5% TO frequency


Here's how it compares to Jokic:



Nikola Jokic 2023 Post-Up Stats:

- 9.1 post touches per game
- 5.2 post-up possessions per game
- 1.22 points per possession
- 65.5% FG
- 21.4% FT frequency
- 15.6% TO frequency

[FultzNationRISE]

This is really good for Boston. Porzingis was wizards best player last year and only has a year left. Is injury prone but was healthy last year. You can’t rely on horford to play 35mpg and timelord can’t play many minute either. You have enough guards with smart and white handling the ball, brogdon was the worst out of the 3 and injury prone.

Good for clippers too they get brogdon to start at pg for very little. Finally wizards will likely get a 1st from Boston can’t complain

Agreed, I really like this for Boston.

KP and Time Lord is a nasty rim protection combo, and if they can keep Horford for his man-to-man defensive toughness, that big rotation will give teams fits.

If they can package Brown, Gallo, and another 1st into an upgrade at starting SG theyll def look like the team to beat.

[Dbrog]

Boston continues to stack their team...on paper, and probably have it never materialize.

Nice get for Clippers. Brogdon fits their style quite well and gives them another person who can handle the rock.

Wizards probably getting two 2nd rounders or something :lol

[HylianNightmare]

Great for Boston

[NBAGOAT]

It’s basically official now. Clippers did give up the 30th pick this year. If stevens made this trade without giving up a 1st I would be too impressed

[tontoz]

Boston continues to stack their team...on paper, and probably have it never materialize.

Nice get for Clippers. Brogdon fits their style quite well and gives them another person who can handle the rock.

Wizards probably getting two 2nd rounders or something :lol




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[Im Still Ballin]

As vague as the label is that's got to be a big three, right? Tatum, Brown, and KP.

[Kblaze8855]

So it’s pretty much done. Wizards get the clippers #30 pick this draft. KP to Boston.

[bison]

So grant Williams is essentially gone.

Hmm. Is he any good? Can lebron get him?

[bladefd]

Boston continues to stack their team...on paper, and probably have it never materialize.

Nice get for Clippers. Brogdon fits their style quite well and gives them another person who can handle the rock.

Wizards probably getting two 2nd rounders or something :lol

Wizards getting bamboozled again. Absolute horrendous organization.

[BallsOut]

So it’s pretty much done. Wizards get the clippers #30 pick this draft. KP to Boston.

Brogdon
George
Leonard
Covington
Zubac

Pretty nasty when healthy. But only when healthy

[FultzNationRISE]

So grant Williams is essentially gone.

Hmm. Is he any good? Can lebron get him?

First of all, I hope so.

Second of all, why is he gone? They just moved Brogdon and Gallinari, they should still have room for GWill.

[Dbrog]

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Damn dude I legit feel bad for you. The 30th pick is essentially just 1 2nd rounder. Hoping the Wiz get more than reported

[tontoz]

Damn dude I legit feel bad for you. The 30th pick is essentially just 1 2nd rounder. Hoping the Wiz get more than reported

:(

This is embarrassing. We traded our top 2 players and can't even get a mid 1st? Maybe Boston will throw in a pick.

[ShawkFactory]

:(

This is embarrassing. We traded our top 2 players and can't even get a mid 1st? Maybe Boston will throw in a pick.

Probably just a full rebuild. Planning on that first pick next year and then going from there.

[highwhey]

i would take boston serious if their two best players weren't chokers

[AirBonner]

Good for Boston. Should be able to rest Horford some time if minutes are managed

[DMAVS41]

:(

This is embarrassing. We traded our top 2 players and can't even get a mid 1st? Maybe Boston will throw in a pick.

So they prioritized cap space over taking back salary and getting picks. Pretty bad decision in my opinion to care about cap space when you don't have any players.

[r0drig0lac]

win-win

[AirBonner]

Porzingis will get so many open looks with Brown and Tatum. This is NASTY

[Micku]

This is a steal for the Clips.

But I wonder how Porzingis will work with the Celts?

[Real Men Wear Green]

I like Brogdon but the Celtics just shifted value from an overloaded position to an area where they could use a little more depth. The frontcourt will need more load management but get this team to the playoffs healthy and there should be no stopping it.

[Manny98]

He just came off the best season of his career and they're getting him for scraps

Celtics should be favorites next year

Honestly Porzingiz should be the focal point of their offense going forward he's a top 5 arguably top 3 center in the league

[Manny98]

This is a steal for the Clips.

But I wonder how Porzingis will work with the Celts?

A issue might be that they lack a true facilator to run the offense

Jaylen and Tatum are proven turnover machines and Smart isn't really a point guard

[AirBonner]

A issue might be that they lack a true facilator to run the offense

Jaylen and Tatum are proven turnover machines and Smart isn't really a point guard

This is an issue and I doubt coach **** eye has any idea of what system can cover this deficit

[FultzNationRISE]

A issue might be that they lack a true facilator to run the offense

Jaylen and Tatum are proven turnover machines and Smart isn't really a point guard

Yeah they need to trade Brown. Replace him with a savvier vet like Jeru (The Damaga) or Stephon Urquelle. Ofc neither is really a true point themselves but it’s still an upgrade in overall fit. Maybe even try to swing a trade for Reaves if the Lakers dont think theyll be able to keep him.

[Wally450]

As vague as the label is that's got to be a big three, right? Tatum, Brown, and KP.

Hell no. Porzingis is nowhere close to the Star he should be to be able to call this a big 3.

[hold this L]

Celtics should be favorites from East next season. Their dealings have been amazing. :applause:

[NBAGOAT]

The deal fell apart according to woj lol. https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1671705108906688513?s=20

[iamgine]

The three-team talks on a Porzingis-Brogdon deal with Celtics, Wizards and Clippers have fallen apart, sources tell ESPN. Sides are moving on.

[FultzNationRISE]

Awkwarrrrrrrd :lol

[highwhey]

Porzingis will get so many open looks with Brown and Tatum. This is NASTY

:roll:

[FultzNationRISE]

The Wizards are still working on ways to get Kristaps Porzingis to the Celtics in an opt-in and trade scenario, but it won't be in a three-way with the Clippers, sources tell ESPN. Porzingis still has the ability to decline his $36 million player option and become a free agent.

Imagine C’s get him and dont even give up Brogdon :lol

[Wally450]

The three-team talks on a Porzingis-Brogdon deal with Celtics, Wizards and Clippers have fallen apart, sources tell ESPN. Sides are moving on.

Best news tbh.

[Axe]

The three-team talks on a Porzingis-Brogdon deal with Celtics, Wizards and Clippers have fallen apart, sources tell ESPN. Sides are moving on.
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[Wally450]

Apparently Porzingis to the Celtics in a 3 way with Memphis getting involved.

[Airupthere]

Another inconsistent player. What else is new.

[Wally450]

Damn. Marcus Smart to the Grizzlies.

Celtics get the Grizzlies 2023 and 2024 first round picks.

[NBAGOAT]

Memphis needed a 5th starter and most people thought they go for a wing but smart works too. Their defense isn’t going fall off at all without brooks now

[Patrick Chewing]

Da fuq are you doing Wizards?? What in the hell did the Wizards get back for Beal and Porzingis?

[1987_Lakers]

Damn, they really lost Marcus Smart. I'm sure the Celtics preferred the 1st trade instead.

[1987_Lakers]

Da fuq are you doing Wizards?? What in the hell did the Wizards get back for Beal and Porzingis?

Going into rebuild mode. They were paying a bunch of guys shit loads of money and were still a losing team. Kuzma on his way out too.

[RRR3]

Smart not being a Celtic feels extremely wrong.

[FultzNationRISE]

Damn, they really lost Marcus Smart. I'm sure the Celtics preferred the 1st trade instead.

HATE that for the Celtics.

Id have given up Jaylen Brown before him.

Smart was the balls on that team.

Im actually shocked they just did this outta nowhere.

[1987_Lakers]

HATE that for the Celtics.

Id have given up Jaylen Brown before him.

Smart was the balls on that team.

Im actually shocked they just did this outta nowhere.

If Porzingis stays healthy I feel the Celtics get better with this trade, but that's a big IF.

Celtics still have White & Brogdon to replace Smart, both have PG experience & White is a pretty damn good defender himself.

[highwhey]

If Porzingis stays healthy I feel the Celtics get better with this trade, but that's a big IF.

Celtics still have White & Brogdon to replace Smart, both have PG experience & White is a pretty damn good defender himself.

he was the most vocal on defense tho

[FultzNationRISE]

If Porzingis stays healthy I feel the Celtics get better with this trade, but that's a big IF.

Celtics still have White & Brogdon to replace Smart, both have PG experience & White is a pretty damn good defender himself.

Yeah I mean theyre not worse on paper necessarily, but damn… thats cold af to just trade off Marcus Smart like that. Dude’s been the glue of that team for years.

[1987_Lakers]

he was the most vocal on defense tho

He was their leader and you have to wonder how Boston will replace that, but from a basketball standpoint they added a 7 footer who gives you 23/8 and some rim protection, they already have some players who could somewhat replace Smart & you add a legit big to a team that desperately needed one. Horford is like 37 and Williams is always injured. I like the move overall for the Celtics.

[highwhey]

i get the feeling you can ask washington for a loan and not pay it back

[Proctor]

Celtics F'ed up by trading Smart but at least they have White who can do a lot of the same things. That's a bad loss though. Porzingis is a good get but damn.

[bison]

I feel bad for Smart but Memphis seems as good a landing spot as any for a player like him.

[highwhey]

I feel bad for Smart but Memphis seems as good a landing spot as any for a player like him.

its a good culture fit considering they play gritty defense and they preach intensity...but the celtics will notice his absence.

[Im Still Ballin]

Hell no. Porzingis is nowhere close to the Star he should be to be able to call this a big 3.

It's all semantics. He played really well last season; maybe better than Bosh in 2010. Doesn't have the reputation but I wouldn't be surprised if he looks great in Boston.

[JohnMax]

I can now enjoy Celtics beautiful offense without that cancer Marcus Smart killing the flow. Porzingis also does best in a fast paced ball movement offense like Celtics have. We saw flashes of this in Dallas whenever that ballhogger Luka Doncic missed games.

[Im Still Ballin]

He has a really complete offense game now. A three-level scorer who can create off the dribble and do damage in the post (1.18 PPP). The post-up game will give them more options on switches and in broken play and clutch situations.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bt38ryYTpw&ab_channel=MaxaMillion711

[Im Still Ballin]

134 games in Dallas
3-10 feet: 38.9% FG (14.3% of offense)
10-16 feet: 39.2% FG (17.5% of offense)

82 game in Washington
3-10 feet: 50.7% FG (22.7% of offense)
10-16 feet: 48.8% FG (16.5% of offense)

[AirBonner]

Celtics now have two 7footers that shoot 40% from 3 and can pass better than most guards

[Im Still Ballin]

Nice. Boston should be moderately strong favorites.


Kristaps Porzingis stats from his career-best season:

Points Allowed Per Pick-and-Roll
1. Anthony Davis (0.91)
2. Steven Adams (0.92)
3. Giannis Antetokounmpo (0.92)
4. Kristaps Porzingis (0.93)
5. Walker Kessler (0.93)

One of the best drop P&R defenders in the NBA.

And on offense:

Top Post Scorers
1. Kristaps Porzingis (1.29)
2. Nikola Jokic (1.26)
3. Luka Doncic (1.15)
4. Joel Embiid (1.11)
5. Pascal Siakam (1.11)

Finally figured out how to score from the post. And from the perimeter attacking closeouts.

Points Per Closeout
1. Kawhi Leonard (1.32)
2. Brandon Ingram (1.26)
3. Luka Doncic (1.25)
4. Harrison Barnes (1.24)
5. Kristaps Porzingis (1.23)

These are all via @SecondSpectrum

So KP shoots 40% on spot up 3s, kills defenses when he attacks closes out, can now post up with efficiency, and he’s a good defender. Health will always be a concern but he just had his best season of his career. This could be his prime.

[Manny98]

Smart gave his blood sweat and tears to that franchise and they traded him just like that :facepalm

[AirBonner]

Smart gave his blood sweat and tears to that franchise and they traded him just like that :facepalm
Celtics traded a 30/20/70 player for a 50/40/90 player

[Manny98]

Celtics traded a 30/20/70 player for a 50/40/90 player

That's not the point you do your players so dirty and wonder why no free agents want to sign for you

[AirBonner]

Apparently it’s only dirty if Boston trades a player stfu

[rawimpact]

Celtics traded a 30/20/70 player for a 50/40/90 player

Celtics give zero shit about loyalty. In fact, I would say that area of the US in general, look at Tom Brady and the Patriots

[Real Men Wear Green]

Celtics give zero shit about loyalty. In fact, I would say that area of the US in general, look at Tom Brady and the Patriots
Celtics aren't sentimental but when it comes to Brady you have no idea what you're talking about.