Why did the Chicago Bulls traded Elton Brand to the LA Clippers back in 2001??

[Lebron23]

Brand averaged 20-11 for the Bulls in his first 2 seasons with them. Did he demanded to be traded?? or they saw more potential with the 4th overall pick who became Tyson Chandler.

[pandiani17]

Brand averaged 20-11 for the Bulls in his first 2 seasons with them. Did he demanded to be traded?? or they saw more potential with the 4th overall pick who became Tyson Chandler.

IIRC, they thought Tyson Chandler was going to become a better player in the long run. In addition, they also picked Eddy Curry with the number four in the same draft, and therefore the GM (Jerry Krause) had an excuse to keep having losing seasons arguing that he was developing straight out of high school kids. If they had kept Elton Brand that excuse would not be so convincing.

[97 bulls]

Krause was big on trying to break things that were working. It's as if he enjoyed failure. Why was he always trying to trade Scottie Pippen even though the Bulls were winning? Krause was an idiot.

[Reggie43]

They believed the hype of Chandlers potential. He was supposed to be the next Kevin Garnett iirc.

[RRR3]

They believed the hype of Chandlers potential. He was supposed to be the next Kevin Garnett iirc.
Ironically for someone once labelled a bust he ended up having a very nice career and lasted 19 seasons in the league. While Chandler definitely never became the next KG or reached the level peak Elton Brand did, he did wind up becoming a DPOY, all-star and all-nba and was arguably the second most important player on a title team. I think the only guys from his draft clearly considered to have better careers were Pau Gasol, Tony Parker, Zach Randolph and Joe Johnson. Gilbert Arenas and Gerald Wallace were certainly better at their peaks though. Even so he wound up one of the better players in his draft class.

[kawhileonard2]

The Bulls had Artest, Brand and Brad Miller, if they kept them they would have been good in another year or two.

[97 bulls]

The Bulls had Artest, Brand and Brad Miller, if they kept them they would have been good in another year or two.

I think Jamal Crawford was there with them too.

[j3lademaster]

Ironically for someone once labelled a bust he ended up having a very nice career and lasted 19 seasons in the league. While Chandler definitely never became the next KG or reached the level peak Elton Brand did, he did wind up becoming a DPOY, all-star and all-nba and was arguably the second most important player on a title team. I think the only guys from his draft clearly considered to have better careers were Pau Gasol, Tony Parker, Zach Randolph and Joe Johnson. Gilbert Arenas and Gerald Wallace were certainly better at their peaks though. Even so he wound up one of the better players in his draft class.We used him way wrong. We started the guy at the 3 at one point, and he played most of his tenure next to lane clogger Eddy Curry.

[BarberSchool]

Krause was big on trying to break things that were working. It's as if he enjoyed failure. Why was he always trying to trade Scottie Pippen even though the Bulls were winning? Krause was an idiot.
Krause couldn’t help it. “Destructive innovation” is his natural instinct. It’s amazing the western world has tolerated and put up with insane drooling inbred morons like Krause for so long.

[FilmyCogTurner]

Marcus Fizer was going to replace him lol

[97 bulls]

Marcus Fizer was going to replace him lol

SMH

[iamgine]

Brand was clearly not the star they expected. He was at the level of Josh Giddey. Of course he broke out after being traded but if you trade Josh Giddey for a #1 pick, I don't think it's a bad trade.

[pandiani17]

Ironically for someone once labelled a bust he ended up having a very nice career and lasted 19 seasons in the league. While Chandler definitely never became the next KG or reached the level peak Elton Brand did, he did wind up becoming a DPOY, all-star and all-nba and was arguably the second most important player on a title team. I think the only guys from his draft clearly considered to have better careers were Pau Gasol, Tony Parker, Zach Randolph and Joe Johnson. Gilbert Arenas and Gerald Wallace were certainly better at their peaks though. Even so he wound up one of the better players in his draft class.

:oldlol:

[pandiani17]

Brand was clearly not the star they expected. He was at the level of Josh Giddey. Of course he broke out after being traded but if you trade Josh Giddey for a #1 pick, I don't think it's a bad trade.

Elton Brand was a 20-10 guy the moment he came to the league, being co-ROY with Steve Francis and having a great sophomore season. He didn't break out with the Clippers, he was already a star.

[iamgine]

Elton Brand was a 20-10 guy the moment he came to the league, being co-ROY with Steve Francis and having a great sophomore season. He didn't break out with the Clippers, he was already a star.

Chicago won like 15 games. He was not a star at that point, despite the numbers.

[pandiani17]

Chicago won like 15 games. He was not a star at that point, despite the numbers.

Because he was sorrounded by Khalid El-Amin, Marcus Fizer, Jamal Crawford (all of them rookies), etc. He didn't get significantly better in his first year in the Clippers, he just got better teammates. In other words, trading him was a bad move because he had shown franchies-player potential already.

[Reggie43]

I liked Brand's game but he was just not as good as his numbers suggest probably because he was undersized or some other things.

[iamgine]

Because he was sorrounded by Khalid El-Amin, Marcus Fizer, Jamal Crawford (all of them rookies), etc. He didn't get significantly better in his first year in the Clippers, he just got better teammates. In other words, trading him was a bad move because he had shown franchies-player potential already.

lmao no he did not show that. Unless we just look at numbers.

[Soundwave]

Bulls management was always dumb.

They fluked out into the mother of all jackpots by getting Jordan no.3 and they dumb enough to be somewhat disappointed at the draft because they wanted to trade the pick for Jack Sikma (lol). They made other dumb moves like trading Oakley entering his prime for a washed up Bill Cartwright.

Outside of doing (finally) some work at the 1987 draft and getting taking a flyer on a free Rodman because San Antonio was fed up with his attitude, they really didn't do a lot as a management group.

The team's much hyped "post Last Dance rebuild" falling apart was zero surprise.

[Lebron23]

Bulls management was always dumb.

They fluked out into the mother of all jackpots by getting Jordan no.3 and they dumb enough to be somewhat disappointed at the draft because they wanted to trade the pick for Jack Sikma (lol). They made other dumb moves like trading Oakley entering his prime for a washed up Bill Cartwright.

Outside of doing (finally) some work at the 1987 draft and getting taking a flyer on a free Rodman because San Antonio was fed up with his attitude, they really didn't do a lot as a management group.

The team's much hyped "post Last Dance rebuild" falling apart was zero surprise.

Can you please get Jordan's nuts out of your mouth??

[RRR3]

:oldlol:
Gerald Wallace was all-defense and could give you an efficient 18 PPG, Chandler was never a threat on offense.

[kawhileonard2]

Overall you can't blame them for wanting two young guys to build around. They were 3 years removed from a title and dynasty and they knew they weren't going to ever be the Lakers and have stars all the time.

[Lebron23]

Overall you can't blame them for wanting two young guys to build around. They were 3 years removed from a title and dynasty and they knew they weren't going to ever be the Lakers and have stars all the time.

must be the first time i agreed with your posts

[Soundwave]

Can you please get Jordan's nuts out of your mouth??

The fact that a comment like that can get your panties in a tight wad makes me chuckle.

Bulls management is and generally always has been trash, the results outside of the fluke of getting Jordan speak for themselves, even as a big market franchise that should be attractive to players they haven't done jack shit since 1998.

That doesn't "accidentally" happen.

[Clifton]

Krause was big on trying to break things that were working.
The most accurate thing ever said about him. The way I remember it, they were sure that Curry/Chandler was the future of basketball, and they were going to leave Elton Brand in the dust. Brand meanwhile being a 1st/2nd round exit type of player.

I can't even think of a modern example quite like it. Hinkie trading Michael Carter Williams, not because he sucked but because he was good (right after he won rookie of the year), to try to lose more games and get top-3 picks, is kind of like it. MCW is obviously not a big part of a championship team (Shaun Livingston role at most), and they did get an elite player out of it which the Bulls did not, but the over-ambitious dumping of a player with high character for a crap shoot on pure potential, from which the culture never recovers and they never win anything, is similar.