If you are the Celtics would you trade Jaylen Brown for Darius Garland?

[AirBonner]

And sign Norm Powell?

[FultzNationRISE]

Not sure, I think Garland is himself more of a “score first” kinda guard. I just dont think they need that with Tatum and Porzingis already on the team, and Brogdon if he’s healthy. Unless you could trade for someone like Lillard or Trae, which you probably cant.

Id honestly rather just have Divincenzo than Brown. Someone who’s not gonna try and do TOO much and ends up just getting in the way.

[tpols]

Brown is really good imo. He's the yang to Tatums yin. It's like fire and ice. They've been so close to winning it all. Would hate to see a separation.

[Wally450]

No. I'm sticking with Jaylen alongside Tatum. We got rid of Smart. Let's watch Jaylen and Jayson take the next step.

[tpols]

Not sure, I think Garland is himself more of a “score first” kinda guard. I just dont think they need that with Tatum and Porzingis already on the team, and Brogdon if he’s healthy. Unless you could trade for someone like Lillard or Trae, which you probably cant.

Id honestly rather just have Divincenzo than Brown. Someone who’s not gonna try and do TOO much and ends up just getting in the way.

You need somebody "whose trying to do too much" sometimes with tatums lack of aggression. Brown is that guy. You exchange him for divincenzo and they're a joke 1 star team with no hopes at a title. And I like divincenzo he's an awesome role player but that's just a crazy swap.

[FultzNationRISE]

You need somebody "whose trying to do too much" sometimes with tatums lack of aggression. Brown is that guy. You exchange him for divincenzo and they're a joke 1 star team with no hopes at a title. And I like divincenzo he's an awesome role player but that's just a crazy swap.

Brown's not the guy you want doing too much. See his game 7 turnovers and missed shots vs Miami.

Zingis Pingis can replace Brown's scoring, and you've still got Tatum, White, Brog and Horford. Theres only 1 ball. Jaylen Brown is not Luka or Kawhi. You dont need him out there trying to be 'the man.' He's a fugazi.

Just my opinion. Maybe he'll prove me wrong.

[ShawkFactory]

It's tough because I'm really high on Garland. To me he's a guy who dribbles at the moment to get what he he feels is necessary but he's a great shooter and playmaker who I think has a natural inclination to distribute and let others shine if that's what works. In theory I think he's a perfect player really for any team really.

The only worry is on defense and with Horford on the way out and Williams not seeming to ever be healthy I think you need to keep Jaylen with his size, athleticism, and activity on that end.

So for the Celtics right now keep Jaylen. But there are several teams on which I'd rather have Garland.

[tpols]

Brown's not the guy you want doing too much. See his game 7 turnovers and missed shots vs Miami.

Zingis Pingis can replace Brown's scoring, and you've still got Tatum, White, Brog and Horford. Theres only 1 ball. Jaylen Brown is not Luka or Kawhi. You dont need him out there trying to be 'the man.' He's a fugazi.

Just my opinion. Maybe he'll prove me wrong.

You're cherrypicking one series to make that claim though. Brown shot 51% and 43% from 3 against Atlanta and Philly this year while putting up a 25/5/4 volume and active good defense. That's awesome production.

And if you look at what he did in 2022. People forget... Boston BEAT Miami in Game 7.

Miami is no joke. They made MVP giannis look a scrub and have given a hard fight to pretty much everybody.

[theman93]

Yes, easily. I think Boston would function better with a true point guard and Garland can space the floor MUCH better. Tatum and White provide enough individual defense on the perimeter in my opinion, and let's not forget Derrick White is the one who made All-Defensive team not Brown. Plus we saw with Denver you don't have to have a collection of great individual defenders to have a good enough team defense to win. Brown's ball handling hasn't improved (I doubt it ever will at this point) and Garland would shore that up - especially at the end of games - which has been one of their biggest weaknesses. It's a no brainer.

[FultzNationRISE]

You're cherrypicking one series to make that claim though. Brown shot 51% and 43% from 3 against Atlanta and Philly this year while putting up a 25/5/4 volume and active good defense. That's awesome production.

And if you look at what he did in 2022. People forget... Boston BEAT Miami in Game 7.

Miami is no joke. They made MVP giannis look a scrub and have given a hard fight to pretty much everybody.


Yeah Im not saying hes never had a good series or anything. I just dont think he’s a guy you ideally build around. He reminds me of Donovan Mitchell in that he’s a guy who can put up numbers and look really explosive, but he does it with tunnel vision and doesnt really have great basketball instincts. I dont even mean like Kobe who was obviously smart enough to be a playmaker he just chose not to, but I dont think Mitchell and Brown have very high bball IQ. Like I dont think it’s a choice I think theyre just not very smart. And again, theyre not on the Luka or Kawhi level where you can justify ‘taking over’ and dominating the ball in big games.

Somethin about those two, Im not saying theyre bad, just think the savvy move is to let another team pay them big money and build around them, and you take advantage of all the assets you can get for them and ultimately build something better.

[tpols]

Yeah Im not saying hes never had a good series or anything. I just dont think he’s a guy you ideally build around. He reminds me of Donovan Mitchell in that he’s a guy who can put up numbers and look really explosive, but he does it with tunnel vision and doesnt really have great basketball instincts. I dont even mean like Kobe who was obviously smart enough to be a playmaker he just chose not to, but I dont think Mitchell and Brown have very high bball IQ. Like I dont think it’s a choice I think theyre just not very smart. And again, theyre not on the Luka or Kawhi level where you can justify ‘taking over’ and dominating the ball in big games.

Somethin about those two, Im not saying theyre bad, just think the savvy move is to let another team pay them big money and build around them, and you take advantage of all the assets you can get for them and ultimately build something better.

Bro if you'd rather have divincenzo over Brown or Donovan Mitchell youre tripping hard son. An I'm bout to get emotional and shiit over it Mayne.

[theman93]

No. I'm sticking with Jaylen alongside Tatum. We got rid of Smart. Let's watch Jaylen and Jayson take the next step.

This kinda seems like a roundabout way of saying Smart was preventing them from reaching their ceiling. If Boston could win with Tatum and Brown as the center pieces, I think they would have already. It would be wise to trade Jaylen while his value is at an all-time high and before you have to pay him a ridiculous contract he's not worth.

[L.Kizzle]

I wouldn't trade JB for Judy Garland let alone Darius.

[FultzNationRISE]

Bro if you'd rather have divincenzo over Brown or Donovan Mitchell youre tripping hard son. An I'm bout to get emotional and shiit over it Mayne.

For a team that already has Tatum and KP.

You only need so many chefs in the kitchen. Sometimes less is more.

[BigShotBob]

Darius Garland almost played worse against the Knicks than Jaylen did against the Heat

[Thenameless]

I'd rather keep Jaylen Brown if I were the Celtics.

[Wally450]

This kinda seems like a roundabout way of saying Smart was preventing them from reaching their ceiling. If Boston could win with Tatum and Brown as the center pieces, I think they would have already. It would be wise to trade Jaylen while his value is at an all-time high and before you have to pay him a ridiculous contract he's not worth.

I mean in a way he did. They kept trying to run it back since Tatum got into the league and their season always ended without a championship and Marcus shooting like 30% in games where we needed him the most.

I have no problem with the Smart trade in the long run because throughout the season, Celtics fans grew more and more frustrated with Smart taking 18-20 shots when he should be more of a facilitator for the rest of the team and settle for 8-10 shots.

It'll be interesting to see how this season plays out with Tatum and Brown being forced into a more prominent roles as leaders of the team with Smart gone. Barring the health of guys like Brogdon and Porzingis, they should be favorites again next season.

[ShawkFactory]

Darius Garland almost played worse against the Knicks than Jaylen did against the Heat

Jokic played pretty well against the Heat

[iamgine]

I have Garland a top 35 player and Jaylen a top 40 player so not sure it's worth the hassle.

Then again, Garland is only 23.