The Lakers are winning free agency so far.

[1987_Lakers]

Reaves for 4/56
D-Lo for 2/37
Hayes for 2/4.6
Rui for 3/51
Vincent for 3/33
Prince for 1/4.5
Redish for 2/4.6

Noticeable loss is Schroder.

Not amazing by any means, but added more depth and didn't really overpay for anyone. Still can't believe we got Reaves for that cheap. :cheers:

[Real Men Wear Green]

The Reaves contract looks like a win but they don't look much better than they were this season which means they are still going to count heavily on James and Davis. Definitely don't see how they beat Denver.

[1987_Lakers]

The Reaves contract looks like a win but they don't look much better than they were this season which means they are still going to count heavily on James and Davis. Definitely don't see how they beat Denver.

Nuggets lost Bruce Brown, LeBron will not have a torn tendon, we coming for that ass.

[BallsOut]

Nuggets lost Bruce Brown, LeBron will not have a torn tendon, we coming for that ass.

:lebronamazed:

[NBAGOAT]

Pretty good but need a decent big for backup c. Think pelinka makes a trade later(olynyk?, Drummond?). Denver should still be favorites but they’ll miss Bruce brown. Their bench wasn’t good last year but it’ll be worse next year

[Xiao Yao You]

Nuggets lost Bruce Brown, LeBron will not have a torn tendon, we coming for that ass.

Lebron was last healthy 5 seasons ago. Old guys don't get healthier. Davis has never been healthy. Good luck with that! :cheers:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Nuggets lost Bruce Brown, LeBron will not have a torn tendon, we coming for that ass.

When's the last time James had a healthy season? He's 38. You think he's going to be great forever when he hasn't dominated the league since the bubble.

[bison]

Still can't believe we got Reaves for that cheap. :cheers:



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[1987_Lakers]

https://media.tenor.com/wl138Bvjy08AAAAC/there-no-we-its-just-you-tell-me-your-secrets.gif

It's "We".

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[90sgoat]

The Reaves contract looks like a win but they don't look much better than they were this season which means they are still going to count heavily on James and Davis. Definitely don't see how they beat Denver.

Pretty much yeah.

Lebron is not getting better from here on, only worse, the only question is how much worse, how fast. That's unfortunately how these things work. Barring injuries, he can keep being impactful, but even so, it still comes down to if AD can play up with Jokic, which he can't.

Then Lakers only real chance is that Rui and Austin take the next step and they just might. In either case, their big man rotation is too weak to contain Jokic, but as for rebuilding young while still being competitive, I think they did a great job. When Lebron retires they have a strong core and can sign Luka.

[bladefd]

Let's see who else comes for veteran's minimum. Still need another backup big man and perhaps another wing like Jae Crowder or Stanley Johnson

[Xiao Yao You]

Let's see who else comes for veteran's minimum. Still need another backup big man and perhaps another wing like Jae Crowder or Stanley Johnson

Crowder with Bucks

[coin24]

They did ok so far.

Desperately need bigs now though. Davis is injury prone and a giant pus.sy when he does play..

[bison]

Let's see who else comes for veteran's minimum. Still need another backup big man and perhaps another wing like Jae Crowder or Stanley Johnson

13 roster slots are filled. There’s only two left. Use one to sign a big like plumlee or Alex len (a big guy who can bang) and then leave the last spot open to have that roster flexibility once the season is underway.

[bison]

I’m also open to bringing bamba back on a smaller deal

[And1AllDay]

Nuggets lost Bruce Brown, LeBron will not have a torn tendon, we coming for that ass.

face down ass up

:dancin

[3ba11]

Nuggets lost Bruce Brown, LeBron will not have a torn tendon, we coming for that ass.


Lebron isn't good enough to be the 2nd-best player on a champion because he'll be 39 and won't be as good as other 2nd options on contenders

Dillon Brooks was spot-on (bron is old) but Memphis was injured

I've been laughing since 2021 that people think Lebron is still a top player - he isn't - when he was dropping 30 ppg last year, the Lakers were losing every game - they didn't get "hot" until Lebron came back from injury and stopped dominating the ball.. And it's funny that teammates took off alongside him for the first time in his career when he stopped dominating the ball.

Btw, I know from personal experience that ballplayers fall off a cliff at 39.. And look at MJ - once he turned 39, he got hurt and was done from that point forward.. Mark my words - Lebron will be an OBVIOUS ROLE PLAYER upon turning 39... I'm bookmarking this post and will bump it when Lebron looks like another player upon turning 39

[Jimmy Rustler]

Lebron isn't good enough to be the 2nd-best player on a champion because he'll be 39 and won't be as good as other 2nd options on contenders

Dillon Brooks was spot-on (bron is old) but Memphis was injured

I've been laughing since 2021 that people think Lebron is still a top player - he isn't - when he was dropping 30 ppg last year, the Lakers were losing every game - they didn't get "hot" until Lebron came back from injury and stopped dominating the ball.. And it's funny that teammates took off alongside him for the first time in his career when he stopped dominating the ball.

Btw, I know from personal experience that ballplayers fall off a cliff at 39.. And look at MJ - once he turned 39, he got hurt and was done from that point forward.. Mark my words - Lebron will be an OBVIOUS ROLE PLAYER upon turning 39... I'm bookmarking this post and will bump it when Lebron looks like another player upon turning 39

He won't even be the second option. Reaves will be. He'll be a grossly overpaid third option.

[LeGoat4Life]

Watch 1987 does his annual crying near trade deadline claiming the GM sucks and that Lebron needs more help

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

They were a Bruce Brown signing away from completely winning this offseason.

Either way, Pelinka has played his cards well and the Lakers will be dangerous and very deep.

[Jimmy Rustler]

Watch 1987 does his annual crying near trade deadline claiming the GM sucks and that Lebron needs more help

Yeah, you'd think he'd be used to his hero underachieving by now.

[1987_Lakers]

Watch 1987 does his annual crying near trade deadline claiming the GM sucks and that Lebron needs more help

You mean like the time we told you guys Westbrook needs to be traded and is cancerous, but you guys called him an "All-Star"? Look what happened to this team once he left. The difference was night and day.

[Xiao Yao You]

You mean like the time we told you guys Westbrook needs to be traded and is cancerous, but you guys called him an "All-Star"? Look what happened to this team once he left. The difference was night and day.

they got several players to replace Westbrook. That points more to their lack of depth than Westbrook. Lebron and Davis were also healthy after the trades

[1987_Lakers]

they got several players to replace Westbrook. That points more to their lack of depth than Westbrook. Lebron and Davis were also healthy after the trades

A dude who always shits on a chucker (Clarkson) is defending another chucker, is this real life?

If you don't think Westbrook was a problem, you never saw the Lakers play while he was there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRr4SDIo4Uo

[Xiao Yao You]

A dude who always shits on a chucker (Clarkson) is defending another chucker, is this real life?

If you don't think Westbrook was a problem, you never saw the Lakers play while he was there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRr4SDIo4Uo

I'm no Westbrook fan but the guy plays hard. He makes lots of sense off the bench. They had bigger problems than him. He brings a bit more to the table than the onslaught of prayers, bricks and pounding of the ball that The Bum specializes in

[tpols]

They're signifgantly worse without shroeder (or rondo) and his defense. I was wrong about dlo, even though he is an All Star talent you don't want your 5th option to be terrible on defense. They already have enough offense. Opposing perimeter players are going to absolutely roast them.

[bison]

I'm no Westbrook fan but the guy plays hard. He makes lots of sense off the bench. They had bigger problems than him. He brings a bit more to the table than the onslaught of prayers, bricks and pounding of the ball that The Bum specializes in

Westbrook was not a good fit and it showed, but Westbrook wasn’t bad and wasn’t even really one of the top reasons lakers struggled in the year and a half they had him. 1987 Lakers is an idiot bron Stan that’s gonna throw any teammate of lebrons under the bus regardless of performance. Take him as seriously as you would Full Court or axe.

[1987_Lakers]

Westbrook was not a good fit and it showed, but Westbrook wasn’t bad and wasn’t even really one of the top reasons lakers struggled in the year and a half they had him. 1987 Lakers is an idiot bron Stan that’s gonna throw any teammate of lebrons under the bus regardless of performance. Take him as seriously as you would Full Court or axe.
:roll:

[1987_Lakers]

They're signifgantly worse without shroeder (or rondo) and his defense. I was wrong about dlo, even though he is an All Star talent you don't want your 5th option to be terrible on defense. They already have enough offense. Opposing perimeter players are going to absolutely roast them.

I'm gonna miss Schroder, gave Steph some fits in the 2nd round with his defense and is overall a player you could depend on in crucial situations. Keeping D-Lo instead will contribute to more regular season wins because he could go off in any moment if Bron & AD are load managing, but I don't think he is a player you can depend on like Schroder in those tough sluggish series.

https://media.tenor.com/OZpHxs_WAg8AAAAC/dennis-schroder-smile-lakers.gif

[tpols]

I'm gonna miss Schroder, gave Steph some fits in the 2nd round with his defense and is overall a player you could depend on in crucial situations. Keeping D-Lo instead will contribute to more regular season wins because he could go off in any moment if Bron & AD are load managing, but I don't think he is a player you can depend on like Schroder in those tough sluggish series.

https://media.tenor.com/OZpHxs_WAg8AAAAC/dennis-schroder-smile-lakers.gif

Yea... it rare to see guys nowadays playing full court defense and shroeder is one of the last guys I've seen doing it.

[BigShotBob]

Losing Shroeder hurts. Reaves won't push the needle. Keeping DLO hurts more than any other signing.

[Spurs m8]

Yet they don't have a championship contending team...fantastic

Reeves is solid but doesn't move the needle.

Dlo is a lose.

Everyone else is eh

Op is still a midget mexican

[Jimmy Rustler]

Yet they don't have a championship contending team...fantastic

Reeves is solid but doesn't move the needle.

Dlo is a lose.

Everyone else is eh

Op is still a midget mexican

The super team got even better. We'll what excuses OP comes up with if they underachieve again. Who will be the scapegoat?

[ShawkFactory]

Keeping DLo outweighs anything they’ve done.

[BallsOut]

Keeping DLo outweighs anything they’ve done.

Told you they would resign DAngelo for about 20mill per.

[King Baron]

I don't think so. They're running back the same team that got swept with Gabe Vincent. Laker fans shouldn't be celebrating 'good contracts' like they're the front office. No Lillard, no Lopez, no Middleton, no George or Kawhii. No major series changer that would put them over on paper.

Team is once again shouldering everything on LeBron and Davis basically.

[Duderonomy]

Is there still a chance Reeves gets more $$$.?NBA teams work with each other so the Spurs probably won't f*** over the Lakers by offering $100 mil when they may need a trade partner later on.

[AirBonner]

He won't even be the second option. Reaves will be. He'll be a grossly overpaid third option.

You are a grossly overweight Mexican. Another highweight alt

[Axe]

You are a grossly overweight Mexican. Another highweight alt
Lmao.

[Jasper]

Yet they don't have a championship contending team...fantastic

Reeves is solid but doesn't move the needle.

Dlo is a lose.

Everyone else is eh

Op is still a midget mexican

:kobe:

[ShawkFactory]

Told you they would resign DAngelo for about 20mill per.

Yea, and I’m not really sure why.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Yea, and I’m not really sure why.

They couldn't get Irving so figured their next best option was to bring back last year's team. And to be fair the conference finals is not a bad result. But Phoenix is now getting a full offseason to fill the holes in their roster. They probably won't fix everything but will improve enough to be one of the top two seeds and create a Suns Nuggets WCF. If LA is lucky with James and Davis health they will be a playoff team but if they aren't there isn't a floor to how far they drop.

[ShawkFactory]

They couldn't get Irving so figured their next best option was to bring back last year's team. And to be fair the conference finals is not a bad result. But Phoenix is now getting a full offseason to fill the holes in their roster. They probably won't fix everything but will improve enough to be one of the top two seeds and create a Suns Nuggets WCF. If LA is lucky with James and Davis health they will be a playoff team but if they aren't there isn't a floor to how far they drop.

I guess I'm just lower on Russell but I think the way he plays is a big problem for them. You don't want your 4th best player to be a guard with consistent tunnel-vision, isn't great in catch and shoot, and offers almost nothing defensively. It's just...not going to work IMO.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I guess I'm just lower on Russell but I think the way he plays is a big problem for them. You don't want your 4th best player to be a guard with consistent tunnel-vision, isn't great in catch and shoot, and offers almost nothing defensively. It's just...not going to work IMO.

If your standard is championship or bust you're completely right. But if the Lakers are ok with being a playoff team then they could do that by just keeping the two top guys on the floor for 65+ games. I'm not sure they can do that but with that luck they would be a respectable team.

[ShawkFactory]

If your standard is championship or bust you're completely right. But if the Lakers are ok with being a playoff team then they could do that by just keeping the two top guys on the floor for 65+ games. I'm not sure they can do that but with that luck they would be a respectable team.

Well yea obviously I was coming from that place. This is probably the last year of the window being remotely open.

[Kblaze8855]

Has anyone ever been said to win free agency by signing less substantial players?

[bladefd]

I guess I'm just lower on Russell but I think the way he plays is a big problem for them. You don't want your 4th best player to be a guard with consistent tunnel-vision, isn't great in catch and shoot, and offers almost nothing defensively. It's just...not going to work IMO.

Vincent is excellent for catch and shoot and feisty defensively. In the shooting area, Vincent is an upgrade over Schroeder. Perhaps him and d'lo can work - you just bench d'lo when his 3pt game is off.

[ShawkFactory]

Vincent is excellent for catch and shoot and feisty defensively. In the shooting area, Vincent is an upgrade over Schroeder. Perhaps him and d'lo can work - you just bench d'lo when his 3pt game is off.

Right but that’s a lot of money for someone who you’re going to be benching half the time and likely in any meaningful moment.

I would have taken Vincent for DLo straight up if I’m the Lakers. I know it’s not that simple but that’s just how I feel about him and the construction of the rest of the team.

[theman93]

The Browns are usually big free agency winners too :lol

[GOBB]

Has anyone ever been said to win free agency by signing less substantial players?

Less substantial? You clearly never watched Austin Reaves play. Lakers got a steal with his contract. Shot maker, shooter, handsome and only 25 years old.

[bladefd]

Right but that’s a lot of money for someone who you’re going to be benching half the time and likely in any meaningful moment.

I would have taken Vincent for DLo straight up if I’m the Lakers. I know it’s not that simple but that’s just how I feel about him and the construction of the rest of the team.

D'lo's contract is only two years afaik w/ 3rd year player opt-out. I bet Pelinka will look for a trade before the deadline and next summer.

You know Lakers couldn't get a better pg for being over the cap. D'lo could be re-signed with his bird rights even while over the cap so Lakers really had no other choice.

[Real Men Wear Green]

D'lo's contract is only two years afaik w/ 3rd year player opt-out. I bet Pelinka will look for a trade before the deadline and next summer.

You know Lakers couldn't get a better pg for being over the cap. D'lo could be re-signed with his bird rights even while over the cap so Lakers really had no other choice.

The two years could also be when Pelinka thinks the current Lakers will be forced to rebuild.

[ShawkFactory]

The two years could also be when Pelinka thinks the current Lakers will be forced to rebuild.

Exactly. The window is this year IMO and I think the money was misspent

[1987_Lakers]

Less substantial? You clearly never watched Austin Reaves play. Lakers got a steal with his contract. Shot maker, shooter, handsome and only 25 years old.

So much butthurt in this post. :oldlol:

[King Baron]

I just don't see a different outcome if the current Lakers roster faced the current Nuggets (minus Bruce Brown) right now. Barring injury, it would end the same. Maybe not a sweep, sure. You can argue that Reaves and Gabe will develop with expanded roles. But right now on paper there's no Lillard level proven game changer to put them over the Nuggets.

[GOBB]

I just don't see a different outcome if the current Lakers roster faced the current Nuggets (minus Bruce Brown) right now. Barring injury, it would end the same. Maybe not a sweep, sure. You can argue that Reaves and Gabe will develop with expanded roles. But right now on paper there's no Lillard level proven game changer to put them over the Nuggets.

Buckle up and watch Austin Reaves become just that

[bladefd]

Exactly. The window is this year IMO and I think the money was misspent

Lakers were over the cap. There was no possibility to get another pg. They only had MLE, BAE, or re-signing D'lo with his bird rights. They got a wing in Prince with BAE and Vincent with MLE.

[ShawkFactory]

Lakers were over the cap. There was no possibility to get another pg. They only had MLE, BAE, or re-signing D'lo with his bird rights. They got a wing in Prince with BAE and Vincent with MLE.

Dude they don’t NEED a PG. Thats my point.

With Lebron and Reaves the traditional playmaking is pretty taken care of. They need a guy like Vincent.

Probably would have kept Shroeder and it would have been way cheaper.

[BallsOut]

Dude they don’t NEED a PG. Thats my point.

With Lebron and Reaves the traditional playmaking is pretty taken care of. They need a guy like Vincent.

Probably would have kept Shroeder and it would have been way cheaper.

Russell is twice the player that Vincent is. That’s why the Lakers are paying him almost double and he’s rightfully deserving of 30 minutes a night at point guard including at the close of games where he has ice in his veins.

[ShawkFactory]

Russell is twice the player that Vincent is. That’s why the Lakers are paying him almost double and he’s rightfully deserving of 30 minutes a night at point guard including at the close of games where he has ice in his veins.

What? :lol

The lakers have people who can fill the role that Russell will give. They don’t have Vincent type guys. Even if Russell is better in a vacuum, that doesn’t matter.

Russell will not be playing in big moments in the playoffs so I’m not sure where the ice in his veins comment comes from other than obviously trolling.

[bladefd]

Dude they don’t NEED a PG. Thats my point.

With Lebron and Reaves the traditional playmaking is pretty taken care of. They need a guy like Vincent.

Probably would have kept Shroeder and it would have been way cheaper.

Schroeder took like 15mill/yr. I doubt he would have stayed for anything less than full MLE. It would have been either Schroeder or Vincent but not both under MLE.

D'lo is separate from Schroeder vs Vincent argument because Lakers had D'lo bird rights. Lakers could sign him for anything or let him walk. However, if he walked, then that's it. His replacement could only sign for veterans minimum because Lakers are over the cap.

The only other possibility is to sign&trade D'lo, but it requires another team to want him. We don't know if Pelinka tried to s&t him, and if other teams wanted him. Keep in mind Lakers would need to agree to trade, and D'lo would need to agree on terms, and other team would need to agree on terms (it would also hard cap them). A lot of moving pieces for s&t, but most importantly another team would want him.

[CountDracula]

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[Jimmy Rustler]

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An utter bitch fit. That man has no shame. :lol

[bison]

Schroeder took like 15mill/yr. I doubt he would have stayed for anything less than full MLE. It would have been either Schroeder or Vincent but not both under MLE.

D'lo is separate from Schroeder vs Vincent argument because Lakers had D'lo bird rights. Lakers could sign him for anything or let him walk. However, if he walked, then that's it. His replacement could only sign for veterans minimum because Lakers are over the cap.

The only other possibility is to sign&trade D'lo, but it requires another team to want him. We don't know if Pelinka tried to s&t him, and if other teams wanted him. Keep in mind Lakers would need to agree to trade, and D'lo would need to agree on terms, and other team would need to agree on terms (it would also hard cap them). A lot of moving pieces for s&t, but most importantly another team would want him.

High IQ post