Power Is Shifting To The East

[Kimielinski]

Eastern Conference is officially stacked...

Ray Allen
Zach Randolph
Kevin Garnett
Jason Richardson
Rashard Lewis

[Richie2k6]

The only real threats there are Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett.

[JtotheIzzo]

Eastern Conference is officially stacked...

Ray Allen
Zach Randolph
Kevin Garnett
Jason Richardson
Rashard Lewis


Only one of those guys played for a playoff team and they were an eight seed. you are correct in the fact that some talent has shifted, but it was barely picked up on the Ricther scale.

The current west teams still own...and now they have Jefferson, Durant and Oden added to the west side.

Future and the present is still owned by the west.

thank you come again.

[brantonli]

The Utah Jazz and the Houston Rockets can probably destory the Eastern Conferance, and the Nuggets can grab a top 3 seed if there are there.

And the Spurs, Mavs, Suns haven't been included yet. So power has shifted very slightly to the East, but not that much and the West is still top heavy.

[Cannonball]

Only one of those guys played for a playoff team and they were an eight seed. you are correct in the fact that some talent has shifted, but it was barely picked up on the Ricther scale.

The current west teams still own...and now they have Jefferson, Durant and Oden added to the west side.

Future and the present is still owned by the west.

thank you come again.
LeBron Wade Dwight all in the east I think we got the future.

[paguy1955]

Eastern Conference is officially stacked...

Ray Allen
Zach Randolph
Kevin Garnett
Jason Richardson
Rashard Lewis


Sorry but none of those players will be a BIG differnece maker in the East. NOW perhaps if they were on the same team!!!:sleeping :sleeping

[tmacyaokobe01]

you still don't need to be over .500 in order to be in the playoffs probably.

[luigi>mario]

Sure, the east still isn't equal to the west. But thank goodness a few solid players will end up there without them loosing many...other than the top lottery picks.

This could help things out.

[KYColonel]

Zach Randolph will dominate in the east. The knicks will go as far as their chemistry in the front court allows. People are forgetting about the Magic, I think they (with some development at SG/SF) can make some serious noise this year.
After S.A., Hou, PHX....the rest of the league is wide open.

[JtotheIzzo]

LeBron Wade Dwight all in the east I think we got the future.

we'll see. LBJ has no team to run against the west with and without Shaq, Wade doesn't either. Dwight? His team mortgaged their future on Rashard...hope it works out for them.:oldlol:

[kumquat]

Zach Randolph will dominate in the east. The knicks will go as far as their chemistry in the front court allows. People are forgetting about the Magic, I think they (with some development at SG/SF) can make some serious noise this year.
After S.A., Hou, PHX....the rest of the league is wide open.

Why is there some theory that zach will dominate the east. He played his worst ball last year in the east last year.

[VCDrivesAPorscheToWork]

Why is there some theory that zach will dominate the east. He played his worst ball last year in the east last year.


because he got 20/10 last season he is the dominant force the Knicks need *bangshead*


Knicks need smart ball players with defense and chemistry

[luigi>mario]

I hope the turbulence of incoming players in the east doesn't destroy some of the east teams that are developing. The power rankings will be really interesting this year for those east teams.

[luigi>mario]

we'll see. LBJ has no team to run against the west with and without Shaq, Wade doesn't either. Dwight? His team mortgaged their future on Rashard...hope it works out for them.:oldlol:

It's true, that will actually hurt the east in the long term. Bad contract.

[MaxFly]

Eastern Conference is officially stacked...

Ray Allen
Zach Randolph
Kevin Garnett
Jason Richardson
Rashard Lewis

Hmmm, Oden... Durant... The Rockets got better, Utah will be better. The East diminished the gap a little, but a lot more work needs to be done before things even out between the conferences.

[CakeorDeath]

After S.A., Hou, PHX....the rest of the league is wide open.

If by wide open you mean owned by three more West squads: Utah, Houston, Denver (Dallas belongs in the big three, not Houston).

The top 6 teams in the league are all in the West. Spurs, Suns, Mavs, Jazz, Rockets, and Nuggets ALL would have beaten last year's EC champion in a 7 game series, and all of them should be just as good if not better next year.

East dominates the 7-15 spots; top 6 are all still from the West.

[rocfan1]

^^agreed. Owned all Eastern conf. fans LOL:oldlol:

[VCDrivesAPorscheToWork]

send Kobe to the East. then we can talk about power shifts

[CakeorDeath]

LeBron Wade Dwight all in the east I think we got the future.

West has Oden, Durant, Deron, and Paul, among others.

[Nygher]

Eastern Conference is officially stacked...

Ray Allen
Zach Randolph
Kevin Garnett
Jason Richardson
Rashard Lewis


Ummm...Lets start from the top of the West Coast and work our way down

Seattle
Jeff Green
Kevin Durant

Portland
Greg Oden
Brandon Roy
LaMarcus Aldridge

Minnesota has nobody if the deal gets done

Denver
Allen Iverson
Carmello Anthony

Utah
Deron Williams
Carlos Boozer
Andrei Kirilenko

Sacramento
Ron Artest
Mike Bibby

Golden State
Baron Davis
Al Harrington
Stephen Jackson
Brandon Wright

Los Angeles Clippers
Elton Brand
Corey Maggette

Los Angeles Lakers
Kobe Bryant

Phoenix
Steve Nash
Shawn Marion
Amare Stoudemire

Dallas
Dirk Nowtizki
Josh Howard
Jason Terry

Houston
Tracy McGrady
Yao Ming

San Antonio
Tim Duncan
Manu Ginobli
Tony Parker

New Orleans
Chris Paul

Memphis
Pao Gasol
Mike Miller

All the people named are as good, better, or could potentially be better than most the people you named as jumping to the East

And remember...most of them moved in trades...not really their choice besides KG

[Nygher]

Eastern Conference is officially stacked...

Ray Allen
Zach Randolph
Kevin Garnett
Jason Richardson
Rashard Lewis


Ummm...Lets start from the top of the West Coast and work our way down

Seattle
Jeff Green
Kevin Durant

Portland
Greg Oden
Brandon Roy
LaMarcus Aldridge

Minnesota has nobody if the deal gets done

Denver
Allen Iverson
Carmello Anthony

Utah
Deron Williams
Carlos Boozer
Andrei Kirilenko

Sacramento
Ron Artest
Mike Bibby

Golden State
Baron Davis
Al Harrington
Stephen Jackson
Brandon Wright

Los Angeles Clippers
Elton Brand
Corey Maggette

Los Angeles Lakers
Kobe Bryant

Phoenix
Steve Nash
Shawn Marion
Amare Stoudemire

Dallas
Dirk Nowtizki
Josh Howard
Jason Terry

Houston
Tracy McGrady
Yao Ming

San Antonio
Tim Duncan
Manu Ginobli
Tony Parker

New Orleans
Chris Paul

Memphis
Pao Gasol
Mike Miller

All the people named are as good, better, or could potentially be better than most the people you named as jumping to the East

And remember...most of them moved in trades...not really their choice besides KG

[Darsh]

send Kobe to the East. then we can talk about power shifts

Its funny, some might argue the opposite.

[Darsh]

West has Oden, Durant, Deron, and Paul, among others.

Melo.. Amare..

[Y2Gezee]

West is still dominant. The good thing is that the East is getting enough to compete with the West in some aspects, however top to bottom the West is still much better. I don't think we can say that any team from the West would make the playoffs in the East anymore, atleast not right now on paper.

However, the West teams continue to build wisely as East teams mostly have bleak futures. All the young talent is in the West, or most of it. Minnesota has salvaged their future in one trade. They have loads of young talent. I mean Boston gave up waaaay too much for a 31 yo player. Ryan Gomes or one of those first rounders was too much, both of them together with everything else is nuts.

[wTFaMonkey]

yea.. all of those players are 1st tier all stars :ohwell:

[Fudge]

All the young talent is in the West, or most of it.
Aside from Durant, Oden, Jefferson, Roy, Deron - there's really not much.

Look at it this way.

West:
Deron Williams
Brandon Roy
Greg Oden
Kevin Durant
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul
Al Jefferson
Nene
Tyson Chandler
Kevin Martin

Not much especially when you count Wade, LeBron, and Bosh for the East. The East is far more superior.

East:
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Dwight Howard
Emeka Okafor
Gerald Wallace
Andre Iguodala
Ben Gordon
Luol Deng

[PejaNowitzki]

Aside from Durant, Oden, Jefferson, Roy, Deron - there's really not much.

Look at it this way.

West:
Deron Williams
Brandon Roy
Greg Oden
Kevin Durant
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul
Al Jefferson
Nene
Tyson Chandler
Kevin Martin

Not much especially when you count Wade, LeBron, and Bosh for the East. The East is far more superior.

East:
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Dwight Howard
Emeka Okafor
Gerald Wallace
Andre Iguodala
Ben Gordon
Luol Deng



I love how you completely excluded Barbosa and Amare for starters. I'm sure others can come up with many more exclusions.

[Devientz]

Nobody realized this thread was a joke?:rollingeyes:

[Fudge]

I love how you completely excluded Barbosa and Amare for starters. I'm sure others can come up with many more exclusions.
Forgot about them. Regardless, even if I did add them, look at the list carefully. It's pretty much uncomparable. Plus, not much else in the West, when it comes to young talent. It's pretty much loaded in the East.

[Kebab Stall]

Ummm...Lets start from the top of the West Coast and work our way down

Seattle
Jeff Green
Kevin Durant

Portland
Greg Oden
Brandon Roy
LaMarcus Aldridge

Minnesota has nobody if the deal gets done

Denver
Allen Iverson
Carmello Anthony

Utah
Deron Williams
Carlos Boozer
Andrei Kirilenko

Sacramento
Ron Artest
Mike Bibby

Golden State
Baron Davis
Al Harrington
Stephen Jackson
Brandon Wright

Los Angeles Clippers
Elton Brand
Corey Maggette

Los Angeles Lakers
Kobe Bryant

Phoenix
Steve Nash
Shawn Marion
Amare Stoudemire

Dallas
Dirk Nowtizki
Josh Howard
Jason Terry

Houston
Tracy McGrady
Yao Ming

San Antonio
Tim Duncan
Manu Ginobli
Tony Parker

New Orleans
Chris Paul

Memphis
Pao Gasol
Mike Miller

All the people named are as good, better, or could potentially be better than most the people you named as jumping to the East

And remember...most of them moved in trades...not really their choice besides KG
Don't forget Rudy Gay for the Grizzlies. He may not be great now, but 2-3 years from now he will be something special.

[Cannonball]

Aside from Durant, Oden, Jefferson, Roy, Deron - there's really not much.

Look at it this way.

West:
Deron Williams
Brandon Roy
Greg Oden
Kevin Durant
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul
Al Jefferson
Nene
Tyson Chandler
Kevin Martin

Not much especially when you count Wade, LeBron, and Bosh for the East. The East is far more superior.

East:
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Dwight Howard
Emeka Okafor
Gerald Wallace
Andre Iguodala
Ben Gordon
Luol Deng
How old is Tyson Chandler?

Btw Kirk Henirch needs on the east list.

[kwajo]

How old is Tyson Chandler?

Btw Kirk Henirch needs on the east list.
24

[Rockets(T-mac)]

West still has the Edge with better teams and better coaches. I think in the future they will even out from the young talent on both sides.

[Make It Rain]

As long as Duncan stays out west. Power will always be in the West. Same as the East during the Jordan era.

[wang4three]

we'll see. LBJ has no team to run against the west with and without Shaq, Wade doesn't either. Dwight? His team mortgaged their future on Rashard...hope it works out for them.:oldlol:


Durant's team is not that great and neither is Jefferson's. So other than Oden, majority team of future-based players are lackluster in general, regardless of division. Present and future.

[wang4three]

West has Oden, Durant, Deron, and Paul, among others.
The point is not to say the West has no future, but rather that the East has enough rising stars as of now. To deny such statement is ridiculous.

[xxxSuperStar]

However, the West teams continue to build wisely as East teams mostly have bleak futures. All the young talent is in the West, or most of it. Minnesota has salvaged their future in one trade. They have loads of young talent. I mean Boston gave up waaaay too much for a 31 yo player. Ryan Gomes or one of those first rounders was too much, both of them together with everything else is nuts.

I think the East has better young talent. In fact, the West is getting very old. Duncan and Nash (perhaps T-Mac) will be done in 3-4 years or so and then the West will be REALLY terrible.

IMO Young talent is under 25 years (I didn't add this year's draft except for Oden and Durant because everyone else is to be proven, and probably missed some people, just off the top of my head).

Again, I think the East has better young talent.

West Young Talent

Deron Williams
Amare
Brandon Roy
Nene
Carmelo Anthony
Chris Paul
Tyson Chandler
Monta Ellis
Leandro Barbosa
Oden (to be proven)
Durant (to be proven)
Kevin Martin
Rudy Gay
LaMarcus Aldridge
Devin Harris
Al Jefferson
Paul Milsap
Andris Biendris
Gerald Green
Ryan Gomes
Sergio Rodriguez
Jarrett Jack



East Young Talent

LeBron James
Dwight Howard
Chris Bosh
D-Wade
Andre Igoudala
Luol Deng
Ben Gordon
Andrew Bogut
Marvin Williams
Charlie Villanueva
Anderson Varejo
Josh Smith
Eddy Curry
T.J. Ford
Raymond Felton
Emeka Okafor
Sheldon Williams
Adam Morrison
Darko Milicic
David Lee
Tyrus Thomas
Danny Granger
Zaza Pachulia
Andray Blatche
Rajon Rondo
J.J. Redick
Nenad Kristic
Marcus Williams

[wang4three]

^Nice, guys like JJ Redick, Varejao, Zaza got mentions over Krstic and Marcus Willliams.

[TMac&Luther]

Its more than just Talent. As long as the West has the best GMs and coaches, the West will always be more dominent.

The West's young talent also matches up alot closer than yall would like to admit with the East, especially the way the lottery balls fell last draft.

[Phenom]

Pistons best days are behind them.

Heat should've blown that team up this off season. Instead they signed Smush Parker. :wtf:

Celts have a 2, 3 year window tops. Father Time is the one player you can't trade away.

Nets won't dominate anyone with that weak front line and paper superstar Vince Carter.

The Eastern Conference champion got SWEPT by the West's representative. Nuff said.

[ConanRulesNBC]

I can't wait for the All-Star game now since the east is going to rule.

Dwight Howard/Shaq
Garnett/Randolph/Jermaine O'Neal
LeBron James/Luol Deng
Vince Carter/Ray Allen/Jason Richardson
Dwyane Wade/Jason Kidd/Kirk Hinrich

[Kiddlovesnets]

Yes, power is shifting to the East, while the West is still much more stronger.

[YaoMacBat11]

Eastern Conference is officially stacked...

Ray Allen
Zach Randolph
Kevin Garnett
Jason Richardson
Rashard Lewis


Not really, the only person on that list that could make any kind of noise in the playoffs would be KG and maybe Ray "the homophobe" Allen

[Fudge]

I can't wait for the All-Star game now since the east is going to rule.

Dwight Howard/Shaq
Garnett/Randolph/Jermaine O'Neal
LeBron James/Luol Deng
Vince Carter/Ray Allen/Jason Richardson
Dwyane Wade/Jason Kidd/Kirk Hinrich
Where's Bosh, and Pierce? Both would get as much, if not more votes than Randolph and Deng.

[kwajo]

damn, this thread just made me realize that KG in the East is going to cost Bosh his spot as starting PF on the All-Star team :(

[t-mac#1]

Eastern Conference is slowly closing the gap but the western conference still much better.

[Uchiha_Hai]

As the East continue to grow, so does the West but at so much a faster rate. Notice all of the names you listed, they were all on losing teams and didn't really take away anything from the West.

[DMV2]

Never happened in 2007. Celtics only title contenders a year after.

Didn't happen in 2010 either. Heat cake-walked to 4 straight Finals.

By 2015 - Amare, Boozer, Chandler all went back to the West. Hell, even the corpse of Kevin Garnett went back to the West to help rebuild the Wolves.

[ArbitraryWater]

Never happened in 2007. Celtics only title contenders a year after.

Didn't happen in 2010 either. Heat cake-walked to 4 straight Finals.

By 2015 - Amare, Boozer, Chandler all went back to the West. Hell, even the corpse of Kevin Garnett went back to the West to help rebuild the Wolves.

"cake walked"

In 2011 and 2012 you had 3 title contenders, and in 2013 and 2014 you still had the Pacers. This wasn't the 80's West.

[Im Still Ballin]

Any minute now...

....


Jokes.

East is ****ing stacked

[DMV2]

"cake walked"

In 2011 and 2012 you had 3 title contenders, and in 2013 and 2014 you still had the Pacers. This wasn't the 80's West.
Which East teams were title contenders in 2011, '12? :biggums:

And lol at the Pacers. They only played good against the Heat that one year. 2014 exposed them for what they truly are. They would have gotten smoked in the Finals.

The East is a joke. It's been like that since Jordan's retirement in '98.

[Wally450]

If Atlanta, Toronto, Cleveland and I guess Chicago (Depending on how well Brooks plays at the point) all make the conference semis, Those series will be fun to watch.

[StephHamann]

Eastern Conference is officially stacked...


Zach Randolph


OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaVa6NHwUUg

[Big Cheese]

Which East teams were title contenders in 2011, '12? :biggums:

And lol at the Pacers. They only played good against the Heat that one year. 2014 exposed them for what they truly are. They would have gotten smoked in the Finals.

The East is a joke. It's been like that since Jordan's retirement in '98.

the bulls, celtics and heat were considered contenders during those years.

the pacers played the heat tough in 2012 when bosh was hurt and it required both LBJ and wade to go off for 40 points each on the road to avoid going down 3-1.

[ArbitraryWater]

Which East teams were title contenders in 2011, '12? :biggums:

And lol at the Pacers. They only played good against the Heat that one year. 2014 exposed them for what they truly are. They would have gotten smoked in the Finals.

The East is a joke. It's been like that since Jordan's retirement in '98.

What does 2014 have to do with 2013? People called them the best team in the NBA in the first half of 2013/2014, actually.

bolded: um, lmao?

I don't know, maybe the team that had the NBA's best record in 2011 and 2012, the Chicago Bulls? And they weren't even part in 2012, but the team with the 5th best record, the Indiana Pacers.

And obviously the Boston Celtics, who finished their season 24-10 in 2012 after the All-Star break (takes time for older teams in a grueling lockout year).

In fact, both the Bulls and Celtics were favorites over the Heat in various sports betting sites, and Sports Illustrated also.

It's like you weren't there.

[sd3035]

The East is a joke and only has two superstars, Kyrie Irving, and Kevin love; now that Wade is old and Bosh is injured