Gabe Vincent has break-out playoffs as hottest player.. NBA ships him to Lebron ASAP

[3ba11]

the league MOVED MOUNTAINS to stack the deck for the Lakers in 2020 via the AD heist, or 2023 with the trade deadline collusion where all the good players were plucked from other teams and put on the Lakers.. Or even letting Lebron get his wish of adding Westbrook in 2022.

and now they add the hottest young stud from the 2023 Playoffs to a roster that was already the best in the league.. this is clear-cut fraud and collusion to get Lebron a 5th chip and salvage the fake debate the media created.

if you can't see this, then you're naive - let me make this clear:

Lebron is the biggest fraud in the history of American sports.. He never evolved out of AAU ball-dominance that revolves around him, so he never learned how to win by figuring out chemistry and brand of ball like Jokic or Curry - he only learned how to team-hop and be a talent-based winner (all-star team strategy).. He also learned the skill of getting the league to stack his teams every year.. But despite the unfair deck-stacking, Lebron's suboptimal skillset of excessive ball-dominance for his size/position (imposing spot-up roles) yields bad fits, weak strategy/coaching and therefore perennial underdogs regardless of cast.. This is the historical record.

[ArbitraryWater]

what did he do in the playoffs?

[AlternativeAcc.]

OP mixed up Gabe Vincent and Caleb Martin :oldlol:

[SouBeachTalents]

OP mixed up Gabe Vincent and Caleb Martin :oldlol:
100%. Man is an absolute fool :oldlol:

[3ba11]

He became the best 3-and-D player in the league by averaging 18 ppg to get the Heat a 3-1 lead vs Boston (52% from three) before getting hurt and putting the entire series in jeopardy

he was THE hottest player in the league during that time and it was a major breakout for him

of course the league immediately sends him to Lebron.

It's amazing how a historical timeline of events shows that the league is trying really hard to stack his teams and get him more rings - he's had the best roster since 2020 and it's all due to crazy machinations to stack his team.. It started with the AD heist... then the 2023 trade deadline... now all these offseason moves - everyone is in on it - GM's have no problem helping out a rival like Lebron.. even the Westbrook thing in 2022 - the league is trying EVERYTHING for this bum

[Real Men Wear Green]

Breathe.

[ArbitraryWater]

He became the best 3-and-D player in the league by averaging 18 ppg to get the Heat a 3-1 lead vs Boston (52% from three) before getting hurt and putting the entire series in jeopardy

he was THE hottest player in the league during that time and it was a major breakout for him

of course the league immediately sends him to Lebron.

It's amazing how a historical timeline of events shows that the league is trying really hard to stack his teams and get him more rings - he's had the best roster since 2020 and it's all due to crazy machinations to stack his team.. It started with the AD heist... then the 2023 trade deadline... now all these offseason moves - everyone is in on it - GM's have no problem helping out a rival like Lebron.. even the Westbrook thing in 2022 - the league is trying EVERYTHING for this bum

what, 4 games?

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

He became the best 3-and-D player in the league by averaging 18 ppg to get the Heat a 3-1 lead vs Boston (52% from three) before getting hurt and putting the entire series in jeopardy


Nice save! :lol

[AlternativeAcc.]

what, 4 games?

Gabe is a career 7ppg, 53%TS stud

It's just not fair.

39 year old LeBron can't keep getting away with this...

[SouBeachTalents]

what, 4 games?
Averaging 18 ppg over a 4 game period automatically makes you the hottest player in the league.

Not to mention Caleb Martin, the guy OP thought he was talking about, averaged more ppg than Vincent did during that same exact arbitrary stretch of games :lol

[ShawkFactory]

:roll::roll:

What the actual fvck is this.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

what, 4 games?

Really just 1 lol. Put up 15, 9 and 17 in the other three, on 46%.

No, that's certainly not variance. 26 year old Gabe Vincent, in his third year in the rotation, had a sweet 4 game run sandwiched between two stretches of mediocrity (11ppg on 37% before, 12ppg on 38% after)

That four (or 1) game stretch is the true marker. Not the hundreds of games in their rotation or the other 18 in that playoff run...or even the other three games in that cherry-picked sample where he averaged a more modest 14 on 46%.

Nah man. Game-3-against-the-Celtics-Vincent is who we're getting moving forward.

[3ba11]

Averaging 18 ppg over a 4 game period automatically makes you the hottest player in the league.

Not to mention Caleb Martin, the guy OP thought he was talking about, averaged more ppg than Vincent did during that same exact arbitrary stretch of games too :lol


These were big stakes and the Vincent injury was a big story during the Boston series - he was the reason the Heat were up 3-0 - the NBA saw that he's the perfect type of player for Lebron, so they shipped him to Miami - Riley was in on it - every GM is in on it - I've never seen a team experience such a flurry of activity where they get all these perfect players from so many different teams.. It's a conspiracy

[3ba11]

Breathe.


:lol

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Really just 1 lol. Put up 15, 9 and 17 in the other three, on 46%.

No, that's certainly not variance. 26 year old Gabe Vincent, in his third year in the rotation, had a sweet 4 game run sandwiched between two stretches of mediocrity (11ppg on 37% before, 12ppg on 38% after)

That four (or 1) game stretch is the true marker. Not the hundreds of games in their rotation or the other 18 in that playoff run...or even the other three games in that cherry-picked sample where he averaged a more modest 14 on 46%.

Nah man. Game-3-against-the-Celtics-Vincent is who we're getting moving forward.



Forget the best part: even in that 1 game...21 of Martin's 29 came after the Heat already established a 20 point lead, late in the game.


Edit: Damn I'm getting sloppy. 17 of 29, not 21 of 29. Ah well, point still remains.

[ShawkFactory]

These were big stakes and the Vincent injury was a big story during the Boston series - he was the reason the Heat were up 3-0 - the NBA saw that he's the perfect type of player for Lebron, so they shipped him to Miami - Riley was in on it - every GM is in on it - I've never seen a team experience such a flurry of activity where they get all these great players from so many different teams.. It's a conspiracy

He was a free agent and can sign where he wants....? What was there for Riley to be "on"?

Miami didn't sign him back obviously because they need cap space to try trade for Dame.

[SouBeachTalents]

These were big stakes and the Vincent injury was a big story during the Boston series - he was the reason the Heat were up 3-0 - the NBA saw that he's the perfect type of player for Lebron, so they shipped him to Miami - Riley was in on it - every GM is in on it - I've never seen a team experience such a flurry of activity where they get all these great players from so many different teams.. It's a conspiracy
The guy who was like the 4th leading scorer over a 3 game stretch was the biggest reason they were up 3-0? I don't believe you.

AltAcc absolutely nailed it, you got Vincent mixed up with Martin, and now you're too proud and stubborn to admit you were wrong, so here you go down the rabbit hole of absolute nonsense, only making a bigger fool of yourself with every "point" that you make.

[AlternativeAcc.]

These were big stakes and the Vincent injury was a big story during the Boston series - he was the reason the Heat were up 3-0 - the NBA saw that he's the perfect type of player for Lebron, so they shipped him to Miami - Riley was in on it - every GM is in on it - I've never seen a team experience such a flurry of activity where they get all these perfect players from so many different teams.. It's a conspiracy

GMs conspiring to allow the Lakers to sign mediocre players for an aging LeBrons benefit... sounds like you've finally run out of lebron hating material after 10 straight years.

Time to hang em up :lol

[AlternativeAcc.]

Forget the best part: even in that 1 game...21 of Martin's 29 came after the Heat already established a 20 point lead, late in the game.


He was a free agent and can sign where he wants....? What was there for Riley to be "on"?

Miami didn't sign him back obviously because they need cap space to try trade for Dame.


The guy who was like the 4th leading scorer over a 3 game stretch was the biggest reason they were up 3-0? I don't believe you.

AltAcc absolutely nailed it, you got Vincent mixed up with Martin, and now you're too proud and stubborn to admit you were wrong, so here you go down the rabbit hole of absolute nonsense, only making a bigger fool of yourself with every "point" that you make.

:roll:


:roll:

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

These were big stakes and the Vincent injury was a big story during the Boston series - he was the reason the Heat were up 3-0

Let's go through each game:

G1: Butler - 35-5-7 on 6 steals, Strus and him pour it on in the 3rd to build up a huge lead and put the game away. Vincent has an efficient 15 (matching Martin and Lowry), Adebayo chips 20.

Verdict: not the main reason for the win.


G2: 9 points on 2-8 shooting in 40 minutes. Butler puts up 27-8-6-3-2, Bam 22-17-9, Martin 25 points off the bench.

Verict: not the main reason for the win.


G3: Hooray, his best game of the series...almost all of it coming after they build up a huge lead. 17 of the 29 come after they go up 20 in the third.

Verdict: not the main reason for the win, a total team effort there.

[3ba11]

The guy who was like the 4th leading scorer over a 3 game stretch was the biggest reason they were up 3-0? I don't believe you.

AltAcc absolutely nailed it, you got Vincent mixed up with Martin, and now you're too proud and stubborn to admit you were wrong, so here you go down the rabbit hole of absolute nonsense, only making a bigger fool of yourself with every "point" that you make.


No I definitely mean Vincent, not Martin

Vincent's performance during that stretch was significantly above his norm, which was the biggest reason the Heat were surprisingly ahead of Boston by so much at that juncture in the series.. Then he got hurt and gave Boston a chance

[RRR3]

OP talking up Gabe Vincshit a guy who averaged 9.4 PPG on well below league average efficiency :roll: :roll: :roll:

A new low.

[3ba11]

OP talking up Gabe Vincshit a guy who averaged 9.4 PPG on well below league average efficiency :roll: :roll: :roll:

A new low.


He clearly stepped it up in the playoffs..

And okay maybe he wasn't the hottest stud in the playoffs but he played well above his expectation and showed that he can take that next step.. With his shooting ability, it was only a matter of time before the Lakers got him - all the best available players automatically go to the Lakers since the AD heist or the Westbrook collusion, or the league-wide plan at the 2023 trade deadline to save the Lakers from missing the play-in again

[SouBeachTalents]

Fine, the guy who didn't even finish top 40 in playoff scoring shooting 53.5%TS was the star of the playoffs. It's unfair AF LeBron gets to play with a stud like this at the ripe age of 39.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Let's go through each game:

G1: Butler - 35-5-7 on 6 steals, Strus and him pour it on in the 3rd to build up a huge lead and put the game away. Vincent has an efficient 15 (matching Martin and Lowry), Adebayo chips 20.

Verdict: not the main reason for the win.


G2: 9 points on 2-8 shooting in 40 minutes. Butler puts up 27-8-6-3-2, Bam 22-17-9, Martin 25 points off the bench.

Verict: not the main reason for the win.


G3: Hooray, his best game of the series...almost all of it coming after they build up a huge lead. 17 of the 29 come after they go up 20 in the third.

Verdict: not the main reason for the win, a total team effort there.

This is brutal

He literally thought Vincent was the guy who dominated game 7 and was actually the break out player of the playoffs :roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

He clearly stepped it up in the playoffs..

And okay maybe he wasn't the hottest stud in the playoffs but he played well above his expectation and showed that he can take that next step.. With his shooting ability, it was only a matter of time before the Lakers got him - all the best available players automatically go to the Lakers since the AD heist or the Westbrook collusion, or the league-wide plan at the 2023 trade deadline to save the Lakers from missing the play-in again


so why didnt he take the next step?

he had 1 hot game and that was it.

he sucked before and after:


https://i.gyazo.com/689e3b228a23570683b39ba99d7a104f.png


this isnt a "trend" or "showing he can take the next step"

[JohnMax]

OP is correct. Lebron is known to trade his teammates during trade deadline. No other star player does that. Durant did it once to get Harden on Nets and it backfired a year later.

Lebron moves like a snake. That's why all these men with feminine tendencies love him so much. They both have the same snake like qualities.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

This is brutal

He literally thought Vincent was the guy who dominated game 7 and was actually the break out player of the playoffs :roll:


The Nuggets thread killed this guys spark. He’s just operating on autopilot now, can’t even tell players apart anymore…

[Jimmy Rustler]

Gabe Vincent is nothing more than a solid role player.

However, that doesn't take away from the fact that the Lakers, for the third season in a row, have a stacked super team. The only question is will they epically underachieve for the third season in a row or actually live up to their potential.

[1987_Lakers]

OP sharp as a bowling ball

[Wally450]

Averaging 18 ppg over a 4 game period automatically makes you the hottest player in the league.

Not to mention Caleb Martin, the guy OP thought he was talking about, averaged more ppg than Vincent did during that same exact arbitrary stretch of games :lol

No wonder why his All time Top 10 keeps fluctuating every 7 days.

[DevBooker'sMask]

fvck off op

[highwhey]

fvck off op

oh wow, it's highwhey's alt. only he uses fvck to bypass the word filters. we only need ricardotubs, sunsn09bookit and axe to post and we haave 5 in a row.

[GrayGoat]

That 60 page clinic really got op saying anything

[3ba11]

I don't understand how people can follow a league that is set up for 1 guy to win and then when he yields perennial underdogs or loses the few times that he's a favorite, excuses are made by the media to protect his legacy.

What's the motivation to operate this way?.. Is it simply money? aka the "goat debate" makes money?... And/or does it simply make the media's job easier regarding commentary and developing narratives if there's a "jordan-like" dominator that rules the league?.. I think both of these are viable motivations for wanting to stack the deck in LeFailure's favor... And yet he still yields perennial underdogs regardless of cast of deck stacking

[NBAGOAT]

That 60 page clinic really got op saying anything

Yea Miami got told by the league to not resign gabe Vincent. Dame is just a consolation prize :lol

[3ba11]

Yea Miami got told by the league to not resign gabe Vincent. Dame is just a consolation prize :lol


How do the Lakers have space to sign him after all the moves they already made?

Obviously, teams are helping out the Lakers and making sure they can manufacture #5 for Lebron

It's amazing how naive you guys are - since when did Pelinka become a top GM???... All of a sudden he can get any player the Lakers need and get whatever they want...

Rui Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Schroeder, Beasley, Gabe Vincent, D-Lo, and many more - how the hell does 1 team get so many good players so quickly? PRECISELY all the EXACT pieces they need... So neat and tidy... C'mon... Get your head out of your ass guys

The league simply decided to save lebron after he couldn't fit with Westbrook - it's that simple - they can't stand the thought of him being a lottery player in the West (which is what he was in 2019, 2021, 2022 and 2023 (before the trade deadline)

[Real Men Wear Green]

The Lakers are an NBA team. They are trying to win games in the National Basketball Association. Pursuant to this objective they must sign basketball players. Most of these players will be good enough to play in the national basketball association. For money.

[StrongLurk]

OP is clearly trolling, but it's still a part of his mental illness and obsession with Lebron which is sad. This dude's mind will be solely focused on Lebron even 30 years from now. Anyway, here's a response OP. Take this "hit" and keep up your addiction for another 15 minutes.

Mods should have permabanned OP long ago.

[NBAGOAT]

How do the Lakers have space to sign him after all the moves they already made?

Obviously, teams are helping out the Lakers and making sure they can manufacture #5 for Lebron

It's amazing how naive you guys are - since when did Pelinka become a top GM???... All of a sudden he can get any player the Lakers need and get whatever they want...

Rui Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Schroeder, Beasley, Gabe Vincent, D-Lo, and many more - how the hell does 1 team get so many good players so quickly? PRECISELY all the EXACT pieces they need... So neat and tidy... C'mon... Get your head out of your ass guys

The league simply decided to save lebron after he couldn't fit with Westbrook - it's that simple - they can't stand the thought of him being a lottery player in the West (which is what he was in 2019, 2021, 2022 and 2023 (before the trade deadline)

they got 2 max guys only. Cap space isnt the biggest problem for them. vanderbilt makes 4 mil beasley got cut. you can go over the cap to resign your own guys like rui reaves etc. You want to complain there are multiple teams you can complain more about when it comes to team building. the suns who filled out their bench really well with guys on vet mins who shouldve been paid more(yuta, eric gordon, diop, eubanks). heat are getting lillard for cheap most likely after just making the finals. The lakers are paying their role guys at least.

[Real Men Wear Green]

OP is clearly trolling, but it's still a part of his mental illness and obsession with Lebron which is sad. This dude's mind will be solely focused on Lebron even 30 years from now. Anyway, here's a response OP. Take this "hit" and keep up your addiction for another 15 minutes.

Mods should have permabanned OP long ago.

The list of posters that should be permanently banned is long. This forum is a safe space for shitheads. It is what it is.

[3ba11]

they got 2 max guys only. Cap space isnt the biggest problem for them. vanderbilt makes 4 mil beasley got cut. you can go over the cap to resign your own guys like rui reaves etc. You want to complain there are multiple teams you can complain more about when it comes to team building. the suns who filled out their bench really well with guys on vet mins who shouldve been paid more(yuta, eric gordon, diop, eubanks). heat are getting lillard for cheap most likely after just making the finals. The lakers are paying their role guys at least.



is there another team that got so many good players so fast?

there was clearly a plan by the league to take Westbrook off Lebron's hands and then I guess the ball was rolling at that point, so they just continued the conference call a little longer to get Lebron a zillion more good players while they were at it...

Show me another team that just fixed all their needs so quickly and so thoroughly.. They just got Reddish, Vincent, D-Lo, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Schroeder and many more - that's A LOT of guys - I've never seen a crap GM turn into a wizard so suddenly and I've never seen 1 team become the whirling dervish of trade bonanza so suddenly and magically getting whatever player they want

The national media covers primarily the Lakers like they're a local team - so that should tell you everything you need to know right there that the fix is in.. The problem is that Lebron is infact a choker that yields perennial underdogs regardless of cast, so it becomes this charade of making excuses for his losses and then trying to stack his team some more and hope he can meet the pathetic underdog expectation that his skillset yields, aka 4/10

[ShawkFactory]

is there another team that got so many good players so fast?

there was clearly a plan by the league to take Westbrook off Lebron's hands and then I guess the ball was rolling at that point, so they just continued the conference call a little longer to get Lebron a zillion more good players while they were at it...

Show me another team that just fixed all their needs so quickly and so thoroughly.. They just got Reddish, Vincent, D-Lo, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Schroeder and many more - that's A LOT of guys - I've never seen a crap GM turn into a wizard so suddenly and I've never seen 1 team become the whirling dervish of trade bonanza so suddenly and magically getting whatever player they want

The national media covers primarily the Lakers like they're a local team - so that should tell you everything you need to know right there that the fix is in.. The problem is that Lebron is infact a choker that yields perennial underdogs regardless of cast, so it becomes this charade of making excuses for his losses and then trying to stack his team some more and hope he can meet the pathetic underdog expectation that his skillset yields, aka 4/10

Cam reddish? Really?

:lol

[3ba11]

Cam reddish? Really?

:lol


And Taurean Prince

[ShawkFactory]

And Taurean Prince

Couple of Hawks castoffs. Impressive.

[tpols]

Gabe Vincent isn't the best example but it is true the league has done everything to support its highest grossing asset.

Trading away Randle, Ingram, Ball and more to eventually land superstar AD... trying to stack the deck with Westbrook, finding out he was an awful fit and flipping him for guys that would allow LA to make a run....

The NBA is a BUSINESS. They're in the incentive of making money above all else and Lebron is obviously their Golden Goose and has a ton of leverage pulling strings.

[RRR3]

Couple of Hawks castoffs. Impressive.
LeBron not allowed to play with anyone who’s an NBA level talent I guess.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Gabe Vincent isn't the best example but


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[tpols]

Snippy-poo that's the model of the league. It's about business and money.

Unfortunately Yolk ruined their plans this year. As did Caleb and Gabe destroying Boston. Celtics vs Lakers was the dream matchup money wise.

107-81 FTA advantage for the Lakers vs the Nuggets this year and Denver still swept them.

That's embarrassing. Whew... :lol

[SouBeachTalents]

Snippy-poo that's the model of the league. It's about business and money.

Unfortunately Yolk ruined their plans this year. As did Caleb and Gabe destroying Boston. Celtics vs Lakers was the dream matchup money wise.

107-81 FTA advantage for the Lakers vs the Nuggets this year and Denver still swept them.

That's embarrassing. Whew... :lol
With a team better than the KD Warriors too. Embarrassing.

[tpols]

With a team better than the KD Warriors too. Embarrassing.

Yea yall gotta step it up. Even the refs couldn't save em. All that talent and a broomstick to show for it.

[RRR3]

The games were so close in the Nuggets Lakers series refs could easily have changed the outcome at least somewhat. Tpols dumb as a rock as usual.

[RRR3]

Yea yall gotta step it up. Even the refs couldn't save em. All that talent and a broomstick to show for it.
He’s mocking you. You’re known as 3ball Jr. Embarrassing.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Snippy-poo that's the model of the league. It's about business and money.


Right. The league wants LA to succeed, and the Lakers are a free agent magnet (arguably unfairly so, but c’est la vie).

This has been true for half a century before LeBron, and continued after he signed:

- Wilt specifically wanted to join the Lakers and hobnob with important people
- Kareem requested a trade to LA or New York. Got his wish
- Shaq, after falling out with the Magic, signed with them in ‘96
- Kobe basically pulled a Steve Francis to get traded there
- Malone, Payton both signed in ‘04
- LeBron joined their 35 win squad in ‘18
- Davis had long wanted to sign with the Lakers, even before the trade

So yeah, LA is a Free Agent hub/huge market, and both dovetail nicely with the league wanting the Lakers to succeed.

Emulate 3ball by continuing to tell us more of what we already know…




107-81 FTA advantage for the Lakers vs the Nuggets this year and Denver still swept them.

That's embarrassing. Whew... :lol

Yeah, sure is embarrassing for me, the Serbian Kings (primarily) and Nuggets (among others) fan. Don’t know how I’ll sleep at night knowing the team which has beaten my favourites more than any other, lost to one of those favourites.

Tell you what: how about I bet you instead?


I can prove I both wanted and predicted the Nuggets to win.

We can find a reasonable standard of proof that we both agree on, multiple people to verify the details, all of whom have to agree unanimously for the bet to be settled.

Loser (you) has to take 6 months off.

Looking forward to the inevitable side-step.

[NBAGOAT]

is there another team that got so many good players so fast?

there was clearly a plan by the league to take Westbrook off Lebron's hands and then I guess the ball was rolling at that point, so they just continued the conference call a little longer to get Lebron a zillion more good players while they were at it...

Show me another team that just fixed all their needs so quickly and so thoroughly.. They just got Reddish, Vincent, D-Lo, Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Schroeder and many more - that's A LOT of guys - I've never seen a crap GM turn into a wizard so suddenly and I've never seen 1 team become the whirling dervish of trade bonanza so suddenly and magically getting whatever player they want

The national media covers primarily the Lakers like they're a local team - so that should tell you everything you need to know right there that the fix is in.. The problem is that Lebron is infact a choker that yields perennial underdogs regardless of cast, so it becomes this charade of making excuses for his losses and then trying to stack his team some more and hope he can meet the pathetic underdog expectation that his skillset yields, aka 4/10

I showed you 2, phx and Miami after they get dame. Boston got porzingis and 2 1sts for smart basically.

Dallas had no assets since traded their 1sts for kyrie(unlike lakers) and no team this offseason resigned Kyrie for cheap and filled out their roster. Turned one 1st and bertans into richaun Holmes and 2 1sts. Stole grant Williams from Boston for pretty cheap. Is heavily rumored to turn hardaway into capela because the hawks want siakam. If they get capela, went from having nothing to like Luka/Kyrie/Josh green/grant/capela.

Pelinka one wizardry move was trading westbrook and that wasn’t that crazy. Utah was happy to trade conley Vanderbilt beasley as none of those are worth a 1st in separate trade but combined could get one for westbrook. Everything else happened in free agency. No one wanted schroder last year and he left this free agency anyway. the lakers didn’t underpay anyone besides Reaves. No other team was giving Reaves a big offer because lakers were matching everything so the the lakers just gave Reaves the max they could under cap rules

[tpols]

Right. The league wants LA to succeed, and the Lakers are a free agent magnet (arguably unfairly so, but c’est la vie).

This has been true for half a century before LeBron, and continued after he signed:

- Wilt specifically wanted to join the Lakers and hobnob with important people
- Kareem requested a trade to LA or New York. Got his wish
- Shaq, after falling out with the Magic, signed with them in ‘96
- Kobe basically pulled a Steve Francis to get traded there
- Malone, Payton both signed in ‘04
- LeBron joined their 35 win squad in ‘18
- Davis had long wanted to sign with the Lakers, even before the trade

So yeah, LA is a Free Agent hub/huge market, and both dovetail nicely with the league wanting the Lakers to succeed.

Emulate 3ball by continuing to tell us more of what we already know…




Yeah, sure is embarrassing for me, the Serbian Kings (primarily) and Nuggets (among others) fan. Don’t know how I’ll sleep at night knowing the team which has beaten my favourites more than any other, lost to one of those favourites.

Tell you what: how about I bet you instead?


I can prove I both wanted and predicted the Nuggets to win.

We can find a reasonable standard of proof that we both agree on, multiple people to verify the details, all of whom have to agree unanimously for the bet to be settled.

Loser (you) has to take 6 months off.

Looking forward to the inevitable side-step.

You... wanting the Nuggets to win has nothing to do with this argument. I wanted them to win too. So what?

The point of this thread is that the league often rigs outcomes for its best commodities. I'm a Kobe fan and acknowledge they did it in 2002.

Snippy-poo you just admitted exactly what's going on now with a historical record of the past. And then tried to make it a "gotcha" moment.

Too funny. :lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Decent three-point shooter who got 'hot' in the playoffs.

Not a big fan of Vincent's game though. To me, he was exposed vs tall timber who made him play defense. Bad defense at that.


You... wanting the Nuggets to win has nothing to do with this argument. I wanted them to win too. So what?

The point of this thread is that the league often rigs outcomes for its best commodities. I'm a Kobe fan and acknowledge they did it in 2002.

Snippy-poo you just admitted exactly what's going on now with a historical record of the past. And then tried to make it a "gotcha" moment.

Too funny. :lol

Yo put some respect on that mans name lol

[SouBeachTalents]

Decent three-point shooter who got 'hot' in the playoffs.

Not a big fan of this though. Not a big fan of his game really. To me, he was exposed vs tall timber who made him play defense.



Yo put some respect on that mans name lol
What’s crazy is he legitimately didn’t even shoot that well. 53.5%TS for this era isn’t even efficient.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

You... wanting the Nuggets to win has nothing to do with this argument. I wanted them to win too. So what?




…you…taunted me that the Lakers losing is embarrassing.

Who is it embarrassing for? Why is this relevant to me, the guy that both predicted and wanted them to lose?





Snippy-poo you just admitted exactly what's going on now with a historical record of the past. And then tried to make it a "gotcha" moment.


I admitted that the league rigs outcomes by…acknowledging that they to want their big market teams to succeed, and because the city of Los Angeles attracts Free Agents, a wholly separate claim?

Doesn’t quite sound like it. But I’ll let you quote me, and explain how my words suggest any of that.





Too funny. :lol

Yeah, you really are a 3ball clone. I literally have to just ask you to support your statements and you melt down LOL.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

What’s crazy is he legitimately didn’t even shoot that well. 53.5%TS for this era isn’t even efficient.

Vincent was red hot from deep versus Boston. I def remember that. Thing is, he got a bit overrated after what Miami did to Milwaukee (also shot well from three in that series).

OP thinks this move puts LA over the top, though. What a shocker!

[SouBeachTalents]

Vincent was red hot from deep versus Boston. I def remember that. Thing is, he got a bit overrated after what Miami did to Milwaukee (also shot well from three in that series).

OP thinks this move puts LA over the top, though. What a shocker!
Well tbh an NBA team signing an NBA player is pretty unfair.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Yo put some respect on that mans name lol

Who am I to judge?

Years of the two of them exchanging loving nicknames scribbled on notes in periwinkle marker has led to this.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Well tbh an NBA team signing an NBA player is pretty unfair.

Dey movin mountains, mang.

[NBAGOAT]

Well tbh an NBA team signing an NBA player is pretty unfair.

3ball said getting schroder was huge too. Well that’s who Vincent replaced. Let me guess he’ll say schroder was a lot of help for lebron on the lakers but he’s not useful once raptors signed him and Vincent is a huge upgrade.

[tpols]

Decent three-point shooter who got 'hot' in the playoffs.

Not a big fan of Vincent's game though. To me, he was exposed vs tall timber who made him play defense. Bad defense at that.



Yo put some respect on that mans name lol

I couldn't help it... :lol the "snip" thing sounds wierd. Like he's been castrated or something.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

I couldn't help it... :lol the "snip" thing sounds wierd. Like he's been castrated or something.

So first you give me a sentimental nickname, and now you’re literally talking about my nuts.

Am I replacing him?

[3ba11]

Couple of Hawks castoffs. Impressive.


That's what Kerr, Longley, BJ and Rodman were - they were cast-offs from big-time playoff losers (rodman), or cast-offs from expansion teams (Kerr), or cast-offs on lottery team (longley), or bench player on expansion team (BJ)

Meanwhile, Aaron Gordon and KCP were cast-offs

Yet a player that has reached true GOAT-caliber will have a dynasty with these types of players

[ShawkFactory]

That's what Kerr, Longley, BJ and Rodman were - they were cast-offs from big-time playoff losers (rodman), or cast-offs from expansion teams (Kerr), or cast-offs on lottery team (longley), or bench player on expansion team (BJ)

Meanwhile, Aaron Gordon and KCP were cast-offs

Yet a player that has reached true GOAT-caliber will have a dynasty with these types of players

Well Lebron is 39. And grabbing a couple of castoffs from the Hawks isn't a "OMG LOOK WHO THEY GOT" situation.

Cam Reddish in particular just didn't get it.

[3ba11]

Well Lebron is 39. And grabbing a couple of castoffs from the Hawks isn't a "OMG LOOK WHO THEY GOT" situation.

Cam Reddish in particular just didn't get it.


Lebron was 38 when he was swept by the Nuggets, which means that Duncan's victory at 37 wasn't supposed to happen - 37 and 38 year-olds can't win, according to you.

But Duncan proved you wrong, so there's no excuse for Lebron losing this year with a superior roster and most people thought the Lakers would win.. Only Lebron loses with 27 ppg from sidekicks like 11' Wade, 17' Kyrie or 23' AD.

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron was 38 when he was swept by the Nuggets, which means that Duncan's victory at 37 wasn't supposed to happen - 37 and 38 year-olds can't win, according to you.

But Duncan proved you wrong, so there's no excuse for Lebron losing this year with a superior roster and most people thought the Lakers would win.. Only Lebron loses with 27 ppg from sidekicks like 11' Wade, 17' Kyrie or 23' AD.
Pulled this one squarely out of your ass :lol Plus Duncan only averaged 14 ppg which means he was a worthless bum according to you. Btw, the Lakers were underdogs in every series they played this year, so saying most people thought they would win is, unsurprisingly, a complete lie by you. Also, Kobe lost series with Shaq averaging 32, 24, 25 & 27 ppg.

[ShawkFactory]

Lebron was 38 when he was swept by the Nuggets, which means that Duncan's victory at 37 wasn't supposed to happen - 37 and 38 year-olds can't win, according to you.

But Duncan proved you wrong, so there's no excuse for Lebron losing this year with a superior roster and most people thought the Lakers would win.. Only Lebron loses with 27 ppg from sidekicks like 11' Wade, 17' Kyrie or 23' AD.

The ridiculousness of this post aside..why would adding Cam Reddish be like a “oh shit look who they got”? 3/4 of the guys listed are just random NBA players.

[ArbitraryWater]

The games were so close in the Nuggets Lakers series refs could easily have changed the outcome at least somewhat. Tpols dumb as a rock as usual.


basically


tpols you better than this


or not

[Axe]

3ball said getting schroder was huge too. Well that’s who Vincent replaced. Let me guess he’ll say schroder was a lot of help for lebron on the lakers but he’s not useful once raptors signed him and Vincent is a huge upgrade.
Schroder > pippen

:confusedshrug:

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

The ridiculousness of this post aside..why would adding Cam Reddish be like a “oh shit look who they got”? 3/4 of the guys listed are just random NBA players.

Too kind, if anything. He's a decent defensive player but not a stopper, so grading as one of the worst players in the NBA via various advanced metrics (502nd out of 539 players in VORP, would've been 182nd out of 191 in BPM, 172nd out of 191 in PER 171st out of 191 in WS/48 had he qualified) is inexcusable if he's supposed to be some kind of unfair signing.

Obviously advanced stats break down at basically every level of player if you're looking for exactitude, but when he's a below-average long-range shooter with some of the poorest conventional metrics and on-offs in the league, what's left? "He's switchable and can make free throws?" The eye test isn't his saving grace.

Back-of-the-rotation guy based on what we've seen.