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Lebron23
08-07-2023, 09:11 AM
Isiah Thomas opens up about the tension between the Pistons and the Bulls.

Isiah Thomas did not appreciate Michael Jordan calling them undeserving champions
He says the Pistons were the only team to beat the Celtics, Lakers, and the Bulls
Thomas reveals that was one of the main reasons they didn't shake hands with the Bulls in 1991
The rivalry between the Detroit Pistons and the Chicago Bulls in the late '80s and early '90s was one of the most intense and memorable rivalries in NBA history. One of the most controversial moments of the rivalry came when the Pistons left the court in Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals in 1991 without shaking hands with the Bulls, a traditional sign of sportsmanship in basketball.

This act was heavily criticized by fans and media, tarnishing the Pistons' image and adding fuel to the rivalry. However, in an episode of The Pivot Podcast, Isiah Thomas had a justification as to why the Pistons did this.

Isiah Thomas emphasized that the Detroit Pistons were the only team that beat the Boston Celtics with Larry Bird and Kevin McHale, Los Angeles Lakers with Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and Chicago Bulls with Michael Jordan.

But he wasn't thrilled when Michael Jordan went on to call them undeserving champions:

"87,88, we all up in the mix. We lose what our people arguably say the greatest basketball teams ever. We got those teams beat and then we knocked them off. Then this dude sit up there and say, y'all undeserving, y'all bad for the game." (49:35)



Thomas also added the national media was with Jordan and the Bulls, and they wrote them off, even though the town of Detroit put up a fight on their own.

The Beef Between Michael Jordan And Isiah Thomas
The rivalry between Jordan and Thomas began during the late 1980s and early 1990s when their respective teams, the Chicago Bulls and the Detroit Pistons, were dominant forces in the Eastern Conference.

The Pistons, led by Isiah Thomas, were known for their tough and physical style of play, earning them the nickname "Bad Boys." On the other hand, Michael Jordan and the Bulls were rising stars in the league, aiming to dethrone the Pistons as the top team in the East.

The rivalry escalated during the NBA playoffs, where the two teams frequently faced each other in heated and intense matchups. After Thomas and the Pistons refused to shake hands with Jordan and the Bulls, they got hammered. In the aftermath of the no-handshake incident, Michael Jordan publicly criticized Isiah Thomas and the Pistons.
The rivalry extended beyond the NBA court to the international stage. When the "Dream Team" was formed for the 1992 Olympics, Isiah Thomas was notably left off the roster, despite being one of the best point guards in the league. Many speculated that Michael Jordan, who was a prominent member of the Dream Team, played a role in Thomas' exclusion due to their ongoing feud.

Over the years, both Jordan and Thomas have addressed their rivalry in various interviews and documentaries. While they have shown some attempts at reconciliation, there still seems to be lingering tension between the two basketball icons.

Johnny32
08-07-2023, 09:19 AM
"they had to change the rules so you could beat us" is all he needs to say to lil mikey

Full Court
08-07-2023, 12:24 PM
Isiah Thomas opens up about the tension between the Pistons and the Bulls.

Isiah Thomas did not appreciate Michael Jordan calling them undeserving champions
He says the Pistons were the only team to beat the Celtics, Lakers, and the Bulls
Thomas reveals that was one of the main reasons they didn't shake hands with the Bulls in 1991
The rivalry between the Detroit Pistons and the Chicago Bulls in the late '80s and early '90s was one of the most intense and memorable rivalries in NBA history. One of the most controversial moments of the rivalry came when the Pistons left the court in Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals in 1991 without shaking hands with the Bulls, a traditional sign of sportsmanship in basketball.



1987_Lakers had no clue about that. :lol

Not a clue.

RogueBorg
08-07-2023, 12:45 PM
And also, in fairness to Thomas, I guess the Celtics did the same to them the year before.

sdot_thadon
08-07-2023, 01:10 PM
Lots of unnecessary beef back then, and they haven't let it go to this day and these guys haven't played in like 30 years.

Axe
08-07-2023, 02:31 PM
3-1 against him h2h.

Soundwave
08-07-2023, 07:26 PM
When you feel like an opponent is purposefully trying to injure you to win, you're not going to respect them, but Jordan did shake their hands each and every time they beat the Bulls. Pippen was still angry with Rodman by 1995 over those series'.

That's just late 80s/early 90s basketball ... it was a lot more intense than the Saturday at the YMCA feel the NBA has now.

Bawkish
08-08-2023, 01:44 AM
Nobody likes the Pistons during those days, on and off the court

JBSptfn
08-09-2023, 12:07 AM
"they had to change the rules so you could beat us" is all he needs to say to lil mikey

Exactly. Isiah didn't need a TV network to fix championships for him like NBC did with lil mikey.

bdonovan
08-09-2023, 02:58 AM
When you feel like an opponent is purposefully trying to injure you to win, you're not going to respect them, but Jordan did shake their hands each and every time they beat the Bulls. Pippen was still angry with Rodman by 1995 over those series'.

That's just late 80s/early 90s basketball ... it was a lot more intense than the Saturday at the YMCA feel the NBA has now.


What a deal. Shake hands with the other team and then you can talk trash about them with impunity for the rest of your life.

Jordan is a sore loser who has a history of holding petty grudges. Great players aren't always great people.

jayfan
08-09-2023, 12:34 PM
“The Pistons are undeserving champions,” Michael Jordan said on the day between Games 3 and 4 in Detroit in 1991. “The Bad Boys are bad for basketball.”



The day after MJ made this statement, the Bulls completed their sweep, and the Pistons walked off the court without shaking hands (which was perfectly normal back then). Do you blame them?

Soundwave
08-09-2023, 07:35 PM
What a deal. Shake hands with the other team and then you can talk trash about them with impunity for the rest of your life.

Jordan is a sore loser who has a history of holding petty grudges. Great players aren't always great people.

Jordan hasn't talked much about the Pistons post 1991 unless directly asked, I think he did his talking on the court in the 1991 series and sending them into mediocrity afterwards.

By the way, this is classy on his part, lots of players today could learn from this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWOmPj3oYaQ

He did not go running away or hide or duck interviews when he lost, he owned up to it and showed class.

This is also why Jordan's story is so popular with the general public, it's not just about being great and winning and all that shit. That's not what life is about. It's about how you handle losing, do you see things through or run away and cut bait for somewhere else, and you know it was probably eating him up inside to lose like that, but once they got past the Pistons ... welp.


Now I mean that doesn't mean you have to like everybody you play against. I think the issue with the Pistons that players like Jordan and Bird took offence with was they did try to purposefully injure players.