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Kblaze8855
08-09-2023, 11:50 AM
Come ask for more information about a subject. Nobody knows it all but you can try. And the start of that is acknowledging the holes in your knowledge. I’m fine with that. So….
I have one I’d like help with.
Scottie Barnes.
I have no idea why Scottie Barnes is a big deal to some people. That is not to say he shouldn’t be. It’s only me saying I don’t have enough information. I don’t have an informed opinion. I’ve seen him play, but whatever people who consistently watch him know, must have eluded me. People I respect think he’s about to be a big deal. None of those people are available to ask.
You are.
Enlighten me.
I’m getting Ryan Gomes vibes. And I don’t mean as a player. I mean many years ago when there were Celtic trade talks Celtic fans here we’re talking him up so much as an asset and I just didn’t understand. Rmwg I believe said “ We’re talking about Ryan freakin Gomes”. And it’s stuck in my head for what must be 15 years because he has to be the worst player in sports history to be referenced as a “We aren’t talking about ______. We are talking about *first name* freakin *last name*!”. I’m thinking the exact same sentence but with the exact opposite meaning. Like…who the **** is Ryan Gomes to even be talked about this way?
now here I am and in trade talks for every superstar I hear the name, Scottie Barnes like he’s the home run but an unrealistic target. And while I assume he won’t go the Ryan Gomes path I’m equally baffled because I just lack the information needed.
Relieve me of that ignorance and unless you fear looking bad on the internet…expose some of your own.
Just…teach me about Scottie Barnes first.
ralph_i_el
08-09-2023, 02:06 PM
Outside of being young and athletic, I remember around draft time front offices were raving about how good a guy he was. I heard "inspirational" bandied about. The people in the room with him seem to have great faith in him.
As a player, he's one of those guys that just moves more gracefully than he should at his size. Raw otherwise. Decision makers tend to overrate that type of guy these days. Can't teach moving your feet like that at 6'9"
Full Court
08-09-2023, 02:20 PM
I haven't been able to figure out why Rudy Gobert gets so much hate. Sure, he has flaws in his game, and he's not a top-tier talent like Giannis or Jokic, but he's an elite defender and a solid player. There are plenty of players who are way worse that don't get nearly as much hate.
ShawkFactory
08-09-2023, 02:20 PM
I haven't been able to figure out why Rudy Gobert gets so much hate. Sure, he has flaws in his game, and he's not a top-tier talent like Giannis or Jokic, but he's an elite defender and a solid player. There are plenty of players who are way worse that don't get nearly as much hate.
It's solely because of Xiao. If it wasn't for him no one would care.
Xiao Yao You
08-09-2023, 02:26 PM
It's solely because of Xiao. If it wasn't for him no one would care.
all because of me now? I thought it was because of Covid? Or because he can't guard a whole team by himself? Or he doesn't shoot 3's? Or he's not posting up in a postless league? Or he doesn't score enough? :facepalm
ShawkFactory
08-09-2023, 02:32 PM
all because of me now? I thought it was because of Covid? Or because he can't guard a whole team by himself? Or he doesn't shoot 3's? Or he's not posting up in a postless league? Or he doesn't score enough? :facepalm
On here, yes. He's not good or significant enough for any of that to matter now. It's just your obnoxious takes about him :lol
Full Court
08-09-2023, 02:43 PM
It's solely because of Xiao. If it wasn't for him no one would care.
Lol. Seriously? Why do people care if he's Xiao's favorite player?
ShawkFactory
08-09-2023, 02:55 PM
Lol. Seriously? Why do people care if he's Xiao's favorite player?
He's obnoxious about it and people love giving him shit.
Full Court
08-09-2023, 03:01 PM
He's obnoxious about it and people love giving him shit.
He's far less obnoxious about it than the Bronie bunch are....
Xiao Yao You
08-09-2023, 03:19 PM
On here, yes. He's not good or significant enough for any of that to matter now. It's just your obnoxious takes about him :lol
what obnoxious takes? That he took a tanking team and made them good? That he's the 3rd best player in Jazz history? The numbers back me up :lol
Xiao Yao You
08-09-2023, 03:21 PM
Lol. Seriously? Why do people care if he's Xiao's favorite player?
it seems to be hard for people here to understand how anyone could like a player whose impact doesn't coming from scoring or putting up triple doubles
Kblaze8855
08-09-2023, 04:06 PM
I haven't been able to figure out why Rudy Gobert gets so much hate. Sure, he has flaws in his game, and he's not a top-tier talent like Giannis or Jokic, but he's an elite defender and a solid player. There are plenty of players who are way worse that don't get nearly as much hate.
Obsessive largely single issue posters always make their subject the target of mocking once they become fully associated with it. Nobody hated Ben Wallace on here. But Ben didn’t have a guy doing shit like this:
Gobert is the best defender. In a select class of guys that won DPOTY 2 years in a row. The best finisher in the game. You do know that the dunk is still the most efficient shot in the game and Rudy set a new record for dunks? You do know he's the best at setting screens in the whole league? That is the Jazz offense just as running the offense through Jokic is Denver's. He's better at running the floor. He's more athletic. He won the head to head matchup clearly too.
Acting like offense is run through him like Denver does Jokic or
Davis has yet to show he can carry a team. It's only the past couple years ago where he'd even go anywhere near Gobert when they play.
or acting like he had something on guys like Anthony Davis.
True all-time greats always have fans that want to take them from number eight all time to number four or whatever but when you have some guy who is on the Joakim Noah or Marc Gasol level and you wanna make him out to be elite in obnoxious fashion you bring the hate on.
I don’t know anyone who hates Rudy Gobert, who doesn’t post here. I’ve seen people laugh at his contract like they would laugh at any giant contract for someone not considered a top performer but just as a player? People don’t hate Rudy. People nothing Rudy for the most part.
He like many people just has a few weird ass fans making him look bad. We happen to have the worst of them as a regular so here we are. Much better players than he has ever been get hated on when a super fan breeds resentment. You can like whoever you want. You out here acting like selling screens makes you a Jokic like centerpiece of an offense you’re just begging for your guy to get hated on.
Kblaze8855
08-09-2023, 04:07 PM
Outside of being young and athletic, I remember around draft time front offices were raving about how good a guy he was. I heard "inspirational" bandied about. The people in the room with him seem to have great faith in him.
As a player, he's one of those guys that just moves more gracefully than he should at his size. Raw otherwise. Decision makers tend to overrate that type of guy these days. Can't teach moving your feet like that at 6'9"
so it’s a hard to define smoothness at his size? That is always enticing. Those big guys who move a way they shouldn’t be able to. He’s supposed to be a breakout candidate, so I guess I’ll watch a few games early this season.
Xiao Yao You
08-09-2023, 04:41 PM
Obsessive largely single issue posters always make their subject the target of mocking once they become fully associated with it. Nobody hated Ben Wallace on here. But Ben didn’t have a guy doing shit like this:
Acting like offense is run through him like Denver does Jokic or
or acting like he had something on guys like Anthony Davis.
True all-time greats always have fans that want to take them from number eight all time to number four or whatever but when you have some guy who is on the Joakim Noah or Marc Gasol level and you wanna make him out to be elite in obnoxious fashion you bring the hate on.
I don’t know anyone who hates Rudy Gobert, who doesn’t post here. I’ve seen people laugh at his contract like they would laugh at any giant contract for someone not considered a top performer but just as a player? People don’t hate Rudy. People nothing Rudy for the most part.
He like many people just has a few weird ass fans making him look bad. We happen to have the worst of them as a regular so here we are. Much better players than he has ever been get hated on when a super fan breeds resentment. You can like whoever you want. You out here acting like selling screens makes you a Jokic like centerpiece of an offense you’re just begging for your guy to get hated on.
The Jazz didn't run more pick and roll than anyone in the league? Gobert wasn't at the heart of that with the screens and roll gravity? Davis wasn't afraid to go near Gobert in his first years in the league and hung out on the perimeter instead? Again these are facts. Trolls hate facts I realize
ArbitraryWater
08-09-2023, 04:42 PM
*ignores the obvious for now*
From what I can tell there is something like a forum wide ignore feature, which only mods, and admins can see through to view the post that was made. I don’t know the name of the feature, but it is not technically a ban as he(….) isn’t banned. And there is only one other person I notice on it and he has been on it for years and far as I can tell isn’t even aware of it. His post just can’t be seen unless I manually open one and look to see what it was. Just kinda ghosted.
No idea how long it lasts but as I said…the other one has been invisible to everyone for years and doesn’t seem to realize it. Just keeps posting and nobody but us can see it. Called Wilt Chamberlain or something like that. Makes topics too now and then. Like a spirit just floating through the halls of ISH not knowing he’s dead. He may now have company.
How you become such a spirit I can’t say. Nor can I do anything about it far as I know.
lmao wtf.
So an admin can make a poster be forum-wide ignored, invisible?
And are all his previous threads "gone"? Can they no longer be seen?
Kblaze8855
08-09-2023, 04:48 PM
The Jazz didn't run more pick and roll than anyone in the league? Gobert wasn't at the heart of that with the screens and roll gravity? Davis wasn't afraid to go near Gobert in his first years in the league and hung out on the perimeter instead? Again these are facts. Trolls hate facts I realize
Yea that’s great. You and every obsessed fan is reasonable and the people wondering what’s wrong with you are the problem. It’s been made clear.
Kblaze8855
08-09-2023, 04:52 PM
lmao wtf.
So an admin can make a poster be forum-wide ignored, invisible?
And are all his previous threads "gone"? Can they no longer be seen?
Invisible to you, but I can see them and choose to view it the way you can choose to view a post by somebody you have ignored. But you don’t have the option of choosing to see it. They’re just gone to you.
The posts and topics are still there. If it’s a temporary thing they will just reappear I suppose. If not they won’t.
Real Men Wear Green
08-09-2023, 05:38 PM
I liked Gomes but I can't see myself having said "freaking" in any serious context.
Kblaze8855
08-09-2023, 05:44 PM
I liked Gomes but I can't see myself having said "freaking" in any serious context.
The weirdness of the sentence is the only reason I remember it. Somehow I have associated it with you in my head since 2008.
He's obnoxious about it and people love giving him shit.
Lmao at the dumb question asked only to be followed by an equally dumb response after you answered it.
Full Court
08-09-2023, 06:13 PM
Lmao at the dumb question asked only to be followed by an equally dumb response after you answered it.
^Stinky idiot being stinky again.
Much stink.
Redneck jizzrag is against homosexuals but clearly insults gayly like a shameless queer with no self-awareness. How ironic. :confusedshrug: :roll:
Oof i guess people should cut him some slack for not having more than two brain cells lmao.
Full Court
08-09-2023, 06:17 PM
Redneck jizzrag is against homosexuals but clearly insults gayly like a shameless queer with no self-awareness. How ironic. :confusedshrug: :roll:
Oof i guess people should cut him some slack for not having more than two brain cells lmao.
^Yep, right on cue. :lol
Stinky biatch.
Lol nobody likes you here at all. Even guys like op think you're absolutely pathetic. :oldlol:
Full Court
08-09-2023, 06:20 PM
Lol nobody likes you here at all. Even guys like op think you're absolutely pathetic. :oldlol:
Autistic AND stinky.
What a winning combo. :roll:
Triggered idiot.
The Jazz didn't run more pick and roll than anyone in the league? Gobert wasn't at the heart of that with the screens and roll gravity? Davis wasn't afraid to go near Gobert in his first years in the league and hung out on the perimeter instead? Again these are facts. (https://i.ibb.co/JmpGnKz/IMG-20230528-095117.jpg) Trolls hate facts I realize
Yep, your hero is flawless. Damn every other big including joker.
Xiao Yao You
08-09-2023, 06:29 PM
Yep, your hero is flawless. Damn every other big including joker.
Most adults don't have heroes. You might figure that out one day if you ever grow up
highwhey
08-09-2023, 08:03 PM
*ignores the obvious for now*
From what I can tell there is something like a forum wide ignore feature, which only mods, and admins can see through to view the post that was made. I don’t know the name of the feature, but it is not technically a ban as he(….) isn’t banned. And there is only one other person I notice on it and he has been on it for years and far as I can tell isn’t even aware of it. His post just can’t be seen unless I manually open one and look to see what it was. Just kinda ghosted.
No idea how long it lasts but as I said…the other one has been invisible to everyone for years and doesn’t seem to realize it. Just keeps posting and nobody but us can see it. Called Wilt Chamberlain or something like that. Makes topics too now and then. Like a spirit just floating through the halls of ISH not knowing he’s dead. He may now have company.
How you become such a spirit I can’t say. Nor can I do anything about it far as I know.
i'm ok with that. anyways, you try that place in phoenix?
jstern
08-09-2023, 11:23 PM
Invisible to you, but I can see them and choose to view it the way you can choose to view a post by somebody you have ignored. But you don’t have the option of choosing to see it. They’re just gone to you.
The posts and topics are still there. If it’s a temporary thing they will just reappear I suppose. If not they won’t.
Why did the Steve delete the highwhey vs Axe thread (https://web.archive.org/web/20230301220158/http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?510300-Who-you-got-Axe-or-highwhey)? Just because it was in the first page of the Off the Court. They should undelete it, highwhey did not participate in it.
Full Court
08-10-2023, 06:55 AM
Why did the Steve delete the highwhey vs Axe thread (https://web.archive.org/web/20230301220158/http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?510300-Who-you-got-Axe-or-highwhey)? Just because it was in the first page of the Off the Court. They should undelete it, highwhey did not participate in it.
True. And it had some excellent poetry in it about Axe. :lol
elementally morale
08-10-2023, 06:58 AM
I saw them play 'live' but I could never settle the Isiah Thomas vs. John Stockton debate in my head. I still can't.
And while we are at it I'm not sure who I'd start my team with at PG: Kidd or CP3. (I have Magic, Nash, Stockton and Thomas above these two but I'm unsure who I'd come up with next.)
Enlighten me, kblaze, please.
Mongoloid jizzrag talking about poetry but all it did was show how retarded and autistic he was. :oldlol:
https://i.ibb.co/JmpGnKz/IMG-20230528-095117.jpg
Full Court
08-10-2023, 09:27 AM
True. And it had some excellent poetry in it about Axe. :lol
Artistic gems such as this:
All you have to do
To send Axe into a snit
Is mention his stinkiness
And he'll throw a bitch fit
:roll:
tontoz
08-10-2023, 09:52 AM
I don't get the Barnes love either. He could be really good if he could shoot but so far he can't.
Most adults don't have heroes. (https://i.ibb.co/RpQNPqx/IMG-20221122-211833.jpg) You might figure that out one day if you ever grow up
I mean he's not as famous or as popular as several great players in the league but you're always there whenever someone makes fun of him. :confusedshrug:
Xiao Yao You
08-10-2023, 04:16 PM
I mean he's not as famous or as popular as several great players in the league but you're always there whenever someone makes fun of him. :confusedshrug:
as are you troll
Jasper
08-10-2023, 06:17 PM
lmao wtf.
So an admin can make a poster be forum-wide ignored, invisible?
And are all his previous threads "gone"? Can they no longer be seen?
I'm a mod unless patsy and jalopy straight up ,, i'll do it to them
lmfao
Kblaze8855
08-10-2023, 08:06 PM
i'm ok with that. anyways, you try that place in phoenix?
Nah. I’m leaving to go back across the country to nowhere in particular again this weekend though.
highwhey
08-10-2023, 09:35 PM
Nah. I’m leaving to go back across the country to nowhere in particular again this weekend though.
right on. it's too fvcking hot here at the moment. though there is this helicopter ride from the grand canyon to vegas and vice versa that is baller af. tthey land in the middle of the canyon where they have some picnic tables on the side of a canyon and the pilots bring out snacks and champagne. the scenic tour both ways is sick.
anyways, good game Kblaze.
til next time, on dragonball z. *flies away on nimbus cloud*
ILLsmak
08-11-2023, 11:08 AM
Kb why u try so hard to carry this dead ass forum. It sux cuz u used to pop in and drop some knowledge and mod and now u got like a third of the threads.
-Smak
hateraid
08-11-2023, 12:22 PM
Lol. Seriously? Why do people care if he's Xiao's favorite player?
Same reason you care why people like Lebron?
Same reason you care why people like Lebron?
:milton
SouBeachTalents
08-11-2023, 12:38 PM
Same reason you care why people like Lebron?
This Bronie fluffer is having a bitch fit
:roll:
Full Court
08-11-2023, 01:38 PM
This Bronie fluffer is having a bitch fit
:roll:
I know, right?
:roll:
Nothing is this thread was even about Bronie and he STILL can't get off it. :lol What a tool.
hateraid
08-11-2023, 11:49 PM
I know, right?
:roll:
Nothing is this thread was even about Bronie and he STILL can't get off it. :lol What a tool.
Simple question. You're wondering why people are bothered by xio bring a Gobert fan but that's a small scale compared to your reaction to Bronie fans. Kinda ironic
hateraid
08-11-2023, 11:52 PM
This Bronie fluffer is having a bitch fit
:roll:
Lol, he is pretty predictable eh?
Full Court
08-13-2023, 08:51 AM
Lol, he is pretty predictable eh?
I calls it like I sees it. :confusedshrug:
Full Court
08-13-2023, 08:51 AM
Simple question. You're wondering why people are bothered by xio bring a Gobert fan but that's a small scale compared to your reaction to Bronie fans. Kinda ironic
That's where you're way off base. It doesn't bother me at all that you and others on here are Bronie fluffers. In fact, quite the opposite. It's a great source of entertainment.
:yaohappy:
Simple question. You're wondering why people are bothered by xio bring a Gobert fan but that's a small scale compared to your reaction to Bronie fans. Kinda ironic
:lebronamazed:
Full Court
08-13-2023, 09:19 PM
Stinky.
imdaman99
08-13-2023, 09:59 PM
It's mostly raptors fans. They are delusional as hell, and I know delusional fans because a lot of Knick fans are as well :lol this dude Scottie Barnes started talking shit to Grimes saying YOU NOT HIM and shit like that... as if you ARE HIM? :lol gtfoh scottie barnes, you're a glorified landry fields, who us Knick fans hyped as well, so I know what it is.
It's mostly raptors fans. They are delusional as hell, and I know delusional fans because a lot of Knick fans are as well :lol (https://i.ibb.co/JmpGnKz/IMG-20230528-095117.jpg) this dude Scottie Barnes started talking shit to Grimes saying YOU NOT HIM and shit like that... as if you ARE HIM? :lol gtfoh scottie barnes, you're a glorified landry fields, who us Knick fans hyped as well, so I know what it is.
Lol i used to think of dub fans who still think that the dynasty isn't over yet.
Clifton
08-15-2023, 10:50 AM
Barnes plays like a guy who hasn't been playing basketball very long. Like a talented 16 year old who could make a college team if he tried hard but won't, playing against other teenagers at the Y.
The Raptors will do well to deal Siakam soon. He's a good player, but watching him and Barnes take turns doing the exact same backdown thing every possession is brutal and ineffective basketball in this era. And since Siakam is way better at it, it makes no sense to give Barnes the keys to the offense. You gotta set him loose and see what you've got.
I have a bad feeling these seemingly-infinite potential guys (Barnes and Mobley) are going to turn out less like less like Magic and KG and more like Diaw and 'gentle Draymond' than people think. Guys who can't shoot, man, they just... can't shoot. Not only shoot, but perfect any given offensive skill. They'll look like they're improvising every time on offense, until they retire. It's way more common for guys to not perfect their craft than to perfect it.
Kblaze8855
09-26-2023, 01:53 PM
https://www.hostpic.org/images/2309262322040325.jpeg
Full Court
09-26-2023, 05:56 PM
https://www.hostpic.org/images/2309262322040325.jpeg
Sure can't blame them. The dude's ceiling is HIGH. If they do manage to snag Lillard or someone like that, the Raptors might actually go somwhere this year (that means THIS SEASON, for any autistic posters who don't understand how to read).
he's huge for a wing and he's very competitive was already getting in the grill of guys like kd and lebron as a rookie
his size and confidence makes you think he can become a go-to scorer. he's already a great defender and rebounder.
I think he's special
https://www.hostpic.org/images/2309262322040325.jpeg
He might become better than someone like grant williams, who's still with the celtics btw.
(Well, at least according to our most ignorant resident ish punching bag.)
Full Court
09-26-2023, 08:12 PM
He might become better than someone like grant williams, who's still with the celtics btw.
(Well, at least according to our most ignorant resident ish punching bag.)
Right on cue. Autistic biatch can't help throwing bitch fits and trying to derail threads. :confusedshrug: What a loser.
Keeps on saying bullshit things about me but at the same time, still can't stop thinking and quoting me. What a braindead sore loser. :oldlol:
Full Court
09-26-2023, 08:38 PM
:cry::cry::cry:
:confusedshrug:
Normal day.
Naturally. I’ve noticed him using that alt as ban insurance but I assume whoever it is that usually bans him noticed as well, so I just ignore it. In this special situation I would not.
:lebronamazed:
Full Court
09-26-2023, 09:29 PM
:oldlol:
he's huge for a wing and he's very competitive was already getting in the grill of guys like kd and lebron as a rookie
his size and confidence makes you think he can become a go-to scorer. he's already a great defender and rebounder.
I think he's special
With vanvleet and nurse now both gone, he, siakam and the rest of the remaining guys have a new mission ahead of them. (https://i.ibb.co/SxWM8PC/IMG-20230805-073843.jpg)
Kblaze8855
03-10-2024, 09:55 AM
Gonna More information from somebody who watches the grizzlies more than I do when Ja Morant isn’t playing.
JJJ numbers wise is weird. Hes a DPOY center who gets like 5-6 rebounds and shoots threes. Even last year, he was a virtual nobody aside from that brief time everyone was trying to figure out if his home guys were padding his block stats. This year seems like he doesn’t even exist. Understandable with his teams record I guess but it’s still a little unusual.
Is he one of the best all around players in the league As one would expect a 22 points per game defensive player of the year to be? If so, I have seen very little evidence of it presented. It’s like nobody thinks anything of him good or bad. He should be at least a Bam level somebody but he isn’t. At least not attention wise.
I am anti-ignorance, so I would like any information you have.
Does that guy matter?
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