View Full Version : board dems - who's your guy for 2024?
diamenz
08-09-2023, 06:33 PM
seriously, who is it? aside from "NOT TRUMP"?
do you guys even know who's running against biden?
or is it just... 'not trump'?
do you guys have political ideologies aside from... 'not trump'?
Baller234
08-09-2023, 07:57 PM
seriously, who is it? aside from "NOT TRUMP"?
do you guys even know who's running against biden?
or is it just... 'not trump'?
do you guys have political ideologies aside from... 'not trump'?
They honestly don't.
They accuse us of being in cult that is fixated on Trump, but in reality he is their fixation and not ours. To us Trump is simply a means to an end, but to them he is the face of evil and the reincarnation of Hitler. Or at least that's what they all have to pretend to believe.
The cult of Trump is real, but it is the cult of Anti-Trump. Every decision they make and every opinion they hold is informed by Trump or by doing the opposite of Trump. If Trump says masks are unnecessary, then that means masks become the most important thing ever. If Trump says a safe and effective vaccine is coming soon, that means the vaccine is most definitely NOT safe and NOT effective and cannot be trusted.
Some democrats unironically hold this view of republicans as it pertained to Obama. They are convinced that the only reason republican voters opposed him so strongly was because they hated him deep to their core. After all he was so perfect and so charming in every way, that only an evil racist bigot could possibly disagree with anything he says. But in reality, this is how they feel about Trump. They truly hate him at their core.
ArbitraryWater
08-09-2023, 08:38 PM
Repubs are fine with RFK or Vivek, and theyre still focused on Trump and will give those 2 the same labels they gave Trump.
Theyre airheads.
It is what it is.
The Democratic Party hasnt been a serious Party in well over a decade.
Patrick Chewing
08-09-2023, 10:44 PM
I speak for all the Dems here when I say, not Trump.
Off the Court
08-09-2023, 11:07 PM
Biden will for sure get the nod, so not much to debate there. The much bigger question is who the GOPs guy will be.
Who do you want to see going against Biden diamenz? You said Trump a bunch. So I guess him?
Patrick Chewing
08-09-2023, 11:54 PM
^^^Look at how he so nonchalantly moves on from the Democrats and over to Trump, not realizing how problematic the phrase "Biden will for sure get the nod" sounds. Why, in Off the Court's warped view is Biden's nomination almost a lock for the Dems? Biden's approval ratings are in the tank. Inflation is through the roof. Gas prices are still rising. And yet, this fool thinks Biden is a lock?? If he's a lock, it's because the Party will prevent anyone from challenging him. Someone like hmmm I dunno, RFK Jr??
TeflonDonTrump
08-10-2023, 12:31 AM
^^^Look at how he so nonchalantly moves on from the Democrats and over to Trump, not realizing how problematic the phrase "Biden will for sure get the nod" sounds. Why, in Off the Court's warped view is Biden's nomination almost a lock for the Dems? Biden's approval ratings are in the tank. Inflation is through the roof. Gas prices are still rising. And yet, this fool thinks Biden is a lock?? If he's a lock, it's because the Party will prevent anyone from challenging him. Someone like hmmm I dunno, RFK Jr??
The demons are master at cheating. They dont care who they run. It can be a can of soda with a (D) next to their name and it will end up with votes
diamenz
08-10-2023, 10:37 AM
Biden will for sure get the nod, so not much to debate there. The much bigger question is who the GOPs guy will be.
Who do you want to see going against Biden diamenz? You said Trump a bunch. So I guess him?
yes, biden will more than likely get the nod save he's not at death's door but that's not the op's question. the question is who's your guy. who are you voting for? which candidate represents your ideals?
to answer your question, it's just entertainment to me at this point. yes - absolutely trump. what would be most interesting to me is a west vs trump matchup. if i had to choose, west would be my guy. do you like my straightforward answer to your question? i didn't duck it, i didn't deflect nor did i shrug it off.
it will be hilarious seeing trump relentlessly go after biden though.
so far, i we have yet to see a democrat here that stands up for anything aside from being anti-trump.:confusedshrug:
diamenz
08-10-2023, 10:43 AM
^^^Look at how he so nonchalantly moves on from the Democrats and over to Trump, not realizing how problematic the phrase "Biden will for sure get the nod" sounds. Why, in Off the Court's warped view is Biden's nomination almost a lock for the Dems? Biden's approval ratings are in the tank. Inflation is through the roof. Gas prices are still rising. And yet, this fool thinks Biden is a lock?? If he's a lock, it's because the Party will prevent anyone from challenging him. Someone like hmmm I dunno, RFK Jr??
yeah, but the rig is in. the left media shuns biden's challengers and gives them no airtime. the dnc refuses to hold debates and the biden admin successfully moved up SC on the primary calendar. most important of all, democrats have the biggest boogieman of all time in donald trump to scare their voters into voting for the "most electable" candidate.
diamenz
08-10-2023, 10:45 AM
They honestly don't.
They accuse us of being in cult that is fixated on Trump, but in reality he is their fixation and not ours. To us Trump is simply a means to an end, but to them he is the face of evil and the reincarnation of Hitler. Or at least that's what they all have to pretend to believe.
The cult of Trump is real, but it is the cult of Anti-Trump. Every decision they make and every opinion they hold is informed by Trump or by doing the opposite of Trump. If Trump says masks are unnecessary, then that means masks become the most important thing ever. If Trump says a safe and effective vaccine is coming soon, that means the vaccine is most definitely NOT safe and NOT effective and cannot be trusted.
Some democrats unironically hold this view of republicans as it pertained to Obama. They are convinced that the only reason republican voters opposed him so strongly was because they hated him deep to their core. After all he was so perfect and so charming in every way, that only an evil racist bigot could possibly disagree with anything he says. But in reality, this is how they feel about Trump. They truly hate him at their core.
yeah, that's pretty much it.
Off the Court
08-10-2023, 10:58 AM
yes, biden will more than likely get the nod save he's not at death's door but that's not the op's question. the question is who's your guy. who are you voting for? which candidate represents your ideals?
to answer your question, it's just entertainment to me at this point. yes - absolutely trump. what would be most interesting to me is a west vs trump matchup. if i had to choose, west would be my guy. do you like my straightforward answer to your question? i didn't duck it, i didn't deflect nor did i shrug it off.
it will be hilarious seeing trump relentlessly go after biden though.
so far, i we have yet to see a democrat here that stands up for anything aside from being anti-trump.:confusedshrug:
I won't be voting in primaries because it's pointless. It will just be Biden vs GOP candidate for me.
The idea that Dems are only anti-Trump and that's it is absurd. Just ask Chewing, he has thrown away the last 10 years of his life in here posting non stop about all the various things that Dems stand for.:oldlol:
Off the Court
08-10-2023, 11:05 AM
Although I will say that lately all dem hatred has basically been reduced down to trans stuff.
Not sure what Trump is going to be running on now that the economy is humming away. Is he just going to play the Bud Light commercial over and over?
Baller234
08-10-2023, 11:09 AM
Although I will say that lately all dem hatred has basically been reduced down to trans stuff.
Not sure what Trump is going to be running on now that the economy is humming away. Is he just going to play the Bud Light commercial over and over?
:oldlol::oldlol::oldlol:
Patrick Chewing
08-10-2023, 11:17 AM
I won't be voting in primaries because it's pointless. It will just be Biden vs GOP candidate for me.
The idea that Dems are only anti-Trump and that's it is absurd. Just ask Chewing, he has thrown away the last 10 years of his life in here posting non stop about all the various things that Dems stand for.:oldlol:
:facepalm
No wonder Biden will be the nominee. Clowns like you are too lazy to vote in primaries and get a better candidate in there.
Patrick Chewing
08-10-2023, 11:17 AM
:oldlol::oldlol::oldlol:
He's living in an alternate reality apparently.
Off the Court
08-10-2023, 11:45 AM
He's living in an alternate reality apparently.
Sure.
-All time record low unemployment
-Inflation now under control
-Stock market recovered, approaching highs
where exactly is it a bad economy?
All the gas and egg price threads have magically transformed into threads about LGBT :roll:
Patrick Chewing
08-10-2023, 11:48 AM
Sure.
-All time record low unemployment
-Inflation now under control
-Stock market recovered, approaching highs
where exactly is it a bad economy?
All the gas and egg price threads have magically transformed into threads about LGBT :roll:
You cannot take a victory lap of record low unemployment considering how many people were laid off due to Covid and lockdowns. There are less small businesses in 2023 than there were in 2020.
And inflation is not under control. What kind of bullshit are you talking about?? Prices are still through the roof. Average price for a gallon of gas across the country is $3.83 right now. That's....how should I put this....NOT GOOD!
You're delusional as hell man.
Off the Court
08-10-2023, 11:51 AM
New CPI report just came in this morning.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/10/cpi-inflation-july-2023-.html
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/08/Inflation-July2023-V1-1.jpg
ArbitraryWater
08-10-2023, 12:25 PM
Is it true a bag of doritos costs 4-5 dollars now in New York?
Thats insane
Baller234
08-10-2023, 12:25 PM
Sure.
-All time record low unemployment
-Inflation now under control
-Stock market recovered, approaching highs
where exactly is it a bad economy?
All the gas and egg price threads have magically transformed into threads about LGBT :roll:
The most important aspect of the economy, as it pertains to everyday people, is the actual cost of living. The price of (and access to) goods and services.
I would say the vast majority of middle class and working class americans are not optimistic when it comes to the rising cost of living. Not to mention rising interest rates.
In no way is this a "humming" economy. Lol.
Baller234
08-10-2023, 12:29 PM
Is it true a bag of doritos costs 4-5 dollars now in New York?
Thats insane
I know someone who owned a deli in Brooklyn for 20 years. He just recently closed.
People used to flood in for breakfast on their way to work, but now a bacon egg and cheese cost $9. Wasn't getting anywhere close to the same traffic.
Off the Court
08-10-2023, 12:29 PM
The most important aspect of the economy, as it pertains to everyday people, is the actual cost of living. The price of (and access to) goods and services.
I would say the vast majority of middle class and working class americans are not optimistic when it comes to the rising cost of living. Not to mention rising interest rates.
In no way is this a "humming" economy. Lol.
CPI is the cost of living. It's shrinking, in fact 90% of the small amount present is simply rent prices.
The stock market has shifted up because investors can see what's coming.
And all of this is still over a year away from the election. By that time we will be in deflation.
Trump is going to have to run his election on right wing cancel culture.
warriorfan
08-10-2023, 12:34 PM
seriously, who is it? aside from "NOT TRUMP"?
do you guys even know who's running against biden?
or is it just... 'not trump'?
do you guys have political ideologies aside from... 'not trump'?
the only responses in this thread “but trump!” over and over and over
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Patrick Chewing
08-10-2023, 12:36 PM
More retail theft and more homeless people on the street. Mass layoffs for companies like Disney and others. Gas prices still high. Food costs still high. A box of cereal is like $8 in some places. I repeat, more homeless people on the streets than ever before. I mean, these videos we post on here aren't fake. It ain't homeless CGI. And this fool Off the Court just lies and lies and wants to deceive us by saying this economy is humming along. We need to ignore people like him. All they do is lie.
JohnnySic
08-10-2023, 01:12 PM
seriously, who is it? aside from "NOT TRUMP"?
do you guys even know who's running against biden?
or is it just... 'not trump'?
do you guys have political ideologies aside from... 'not trump'?
Imagine if some guy with the name Trump and no relation to Donald ran as Democrat. I wonder how Dem voters would feel about that. I think they'd be deeply disturbed.
Off the Court
08-10-2023, 01:20 PM
More retail theft and more homeless people on the street. Mass layoffs for companies like Disney and others. Gas prices still high. Food costs still high. A box of cereal is like $8 in some places. I repeat, more homeless people on the streets than ever before. I mean, these videos we post on here aren't fake. It ain't homeless CGI. And this fool Off the Court just lies and lies and wants to deceive us by saying this economy is humming along. We need to ignore people like him. All they do is lie.
https://www.security.org/app/uploads/2023/01/Americans-Experiencing-Homelessness.png
:oldlol:
Down from 2012
And the places you point to for proof? San Francisco? Portland? Are way blue.
You're going to vote for Trump because of your fake homeless rates in super blue cities? Makes no sense
Patrick Chewing
08-10-2023, 01:45 PM
https://www.security.org/app/uploads/2023/01/Americans-Experiencing-Homelessness.png
:oldlol:
Down from 2012
And the places you point to for proof? San Francisco? Portland? Are way blue.
You're going to vote for Trump because of your fake homeless rates in super blue cities? Makes no sense
You are an idiot. :roll:
Down from 2012 huh??
How about up from 2014? Cause that's what that graph shows. You truly didn't think this one through before you posted the graph huh?? :oldlol:
Off the Court
08-10-2023, 01:49 PM
I thought it through just fine.
You said "I REPEAT, MORE HOMELESS THAN EVER BEFORE"
I guess you need to repeat that to yourself :oldlol:
And of course your basis of proof are a few YouTube videos :oldlol:
Patrick Chewing
08-10-2023, 02:00 PM
I thought it through just fine.
You said "I REPEAT, MORE HOMELESS THAN EVER BEFORE"
I guess you need to repeat that to yourself :oldlol:
And of course your basis of proof are a few YouTube videos :oldlol:
And you think that because there were more homeless people in 2012 than in 2022 that it's some sort of win for you? Some sort of victory that shows the economy in 2023 thriving? Your brain is polluted with garbage and nonsense. You cannot have an honest argument with anyone if you're going to deny facts.
Why has homelessness been on the rise since 2014? I thought the economy was thriving? Why does a box of cereal cost $8??
Baller234
08-10-2023, 02:44 PM
CPI is the cost of living. It's shrinking, in fact 90% of the small amount present is simply rent prices.
The stock market has shifted up because investors can see what's coming.
And all of this is still over a year away from the election. By that time we will be in deflation.
Trump is going to have to run his election on right wing cancel culture.
"Groceries are up, everyday goods and services are up, gas is up, rent is up, interest rates on mortgages are up... but the economy is doing great?"
https://media.tenor.com/K43IOTBWSu8AAAAM/dwayne-wade-dwade.gif
If this is what constitutes a "humming" economy, then Trump simply needs to run on his own record because by comparison we were living in a utopia when he was in office.
Jesus Christ.
Off the Court
08-10-2023, 03:33 PM
And you think that because there were more homeless people in 2012 than in 2022 that it's some sort of win for you? Some sort of victory that shows the economy in 2023 thriving? Your brain is polluted with garbage and nonsense. You cannot have an honest argument with anyone if you're going to deny facts.
Why has homelessness been on the rise since 2014? I thought the economy was thriving? Why does a box of cereal cost $8??
The raw total is rising simply because the population is rising. The actual homeless rate is not rising. How about you actually look into facts rather than watching a YouTube video of some homeless people and declaring the US has turned into zombie land :oldlol:
Lakers Legend#32
08-10-2023, 04:41 PM
Ahhhh isn't that cute.
Poopsie claims he is concerned about the homeless (who he hates and does not want to help).
Patrick Chewing
08-10-2023, 04:56 PM
The raw total is rising simply because the population is rising. The actual homeless rate is not rising. How about you actually look into facts rather than watching a YouTube video of some homeless people and declaring the US has turned into zombie land :oldlol:
Holy **** this guy is obtuse. :hammerhead:
Patrick Chewing
08-10-2023, 04:58 PM
"Groceries are up, everyday goods and services are up, gas is up, rent is up, interest rates on mortgages are up... but the economy is doing great?"
https://media.tenor.com/K43IOTBWSu8AAAAM/dwayne-wade-dwade.gif
If this is what constitutes a "humming" economy, then Trump simply needs to run on his own record because by comparison we were living in a utopia when he was in office.
Jesus Christ.
I don't think he believes the shit he says. I just think he's incapable of self-reflection and incapable of admitting that the country is doing bad while under Democrat leadership. I guarantee you if a Republican was in office right now, he'd be posting graphs showing you how bad the country currently is. He's become beyond partisan. He's more like a robot propaganda machine for the Left. He ceased being human a long time ago.
Off the Court
08-10-2023, 05:29 PM
Say what you want but the economy is shaping up and there is no denying that. Everyone can see it. That is why conservatives have had to shift their focus to trans people. Everything is headed in the correct direction and recession was avoided.
And with the economy trending the way it is what do you think it's going to look like come election time which is over 1 year from now?
Lakers Legend#32
08-10-2023, 05:49 PM
Stay in school or you could be Poopsie.
Jasper
08-10-2023, 08:04 PM
I like what Christie says... but still monitoring....
bladefd
08-10-2023, 08:23 PM
seriously, who is it? aside from "NOT TRUMP"?
do you guys even know who's running against biden?
or is it just... 'not trump'?
do you guys have political ideologies aside from... 'not trump'?
Who do you think it should be from both Democrat and gop sides?
warriorfan
08-10-2023, 10:11 PM
Who do you think it should be from both Democrat and gop sides?
why are you answering a question with a question?
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Patrick Chewing
08-10-2023, 11:26 PM
why are you answering a question with a question?
:roll: :roll: :roll:
That's his thing apparently. He does it all the time.
Lakers Legend#32
08-11-2023, 02:59 AM
Holy **** this guy is obtuse. :hammerhead:
Obtuse is kinda a big word for someone who does not have a college degree.
Nanners
08-11-2023, 04:46 AM
Interesting that none of the dems who have posted in this thread thus have expressed any interest or excitement whatsoever with any of their potential 2024 candidates
Baller234
08-11-2023, 09:16 AM
Say what you want but the economy is shaping up and there is no denying that. Everyone can see it. That is why conservatives have had to shift their focus to trans people. Everything is headed in the correct direction and recession was avoided.
And with the economy trending the way it is what do you think it's going to look like come election time which is over 1 year from now?
Lol, why would Donald Trump be afraid of running on delivering a strong economy when everyone is in unanimous agreement that the economy was roaring under his watch and investor confidence was extremely high?
I even remember Bill Maher, self professed Trump hater, talking about how Trump's re-election was going to be a cakewalk because the economy was doing so great... and that if the democrats have any shot it's going to require some huge economic downturn.
And what do you know, they got their wish in the form of the Covid lockdowns. Just a coincidence I'm sure.
diamenz
08-11-2023, 10:22 AM
The idea that Dems are only anti-Trump and that's it is absurd
that's the reason i started this thread. so far, i'm not convinced. :confusedshrug:
ArbitraryWater
08-11-2023, 10:53 AM
Tate said it himself..
When you get the people to not beleive their own eyes, you can make up anything... "thats not a man no, thats a woman"..
food prices way up, services up, materials up, rent up...
and peeps here posting charts about the economy being good.
literally lying to themselves
Patrick Chewing
08-11-2023, 11:10 AM
Tate said it himself..
When you get the people to not beleive their own eyes, you can make up anything... "thats not a man no, thats a woman"..
food prices way up, services up, materials up, rent up...
and peeps here posting charts about the economy being good.
literally lying to themselves
What I want to know is what is it that sets us apart? How do we see it, but the masses don't?
JohnnySic
08-11-2023, 11:52 AM
What I want to know is what is it that sets us apart? How do we see it, but the masses don't?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De4_ZqMwuOg&ab_channel=whyIseethispersoneverywhere
Off the Court
08-11-2023, 12:15 PM
that's the reason i started this thread. so far, i'm not convinced. :confusedshrug:
Okay then, if Dems have no convictions at all other than to be anti-Trump, I guess there is no reason to fear all those non existent Dem policies. :oldlol:
bladefd
08-11-2023, 12:41 PM
that's the reason i started this thread. so far, i'm not convinced. :confusedshrug:
Who do you think it should be other than Biden from democrats side? You started the thread, give us your take
warriorfan
08-11-2023, 12:44 PM
4 pages and they haven’t been able to produce one name. lmao
amazing
diamenz
08-11-2023, 02:51 PM
Who do you think it should be other than Biden from democrats side? You started the thread, give us your take
i did. read the damn thread.
diamenz
08-11-2023, 03:01 PM
Okay then, if Dems have no convictions at all other than to be anti-Trump, I guess there is no reason to fear all those non existent Dem policies. :oldlol:
i gave the democrats here a thread to respond to what i outlined in my op. you did your usual beating around the bush and no one else wants to offer up an argument. not rmwg, not bladefd and of course not ll. yeah - so far, i'm not convinced.
bladefd
08-11-2023, 06:22 PM
i did. read the damn thread.
I did. You type a lot but say nothing at the same time.
Again I ask: who should it be from Democrats if not Biden?
I did. You type a lot but say nothing at the same time.
Again I ask: who should it be from Democrats if not Biden?
Of who's running, clearly the best option is Marianne Williamson. Yeah, yeah I know she's goofy but she actually has policies the American people would like and benefit from. Of anyone, the easiest win in the general would probably be Bernie or AOC. But the DNC will never let any of the 3 people I mentioned get the nomination, so they'll just keep failing the American people and letting fascism grow more powerful. The Democrats continuing to run people like Biden is why they can never stay in power long. They are supposed to be the "bleeding heart" party, the one that helps out disadvantaged people and is progressive on social issues, etc. But they're just as elitist as the Republican party in reality, and similarly corporate. So people don't believe in them. Even though there are more left wing people than right wing people in America, the Democrats (the supposed left wing party) continue to have mixed results. Why? They don't give left wing people enough to vote for. "At least we're better than the other guys" isn't a winning campaign slogan.
bladefd
08-11-2023, 08:06 PM
Of who's running, clearly the best option is Marianne Williamson. Yeah, yeah I know she's goofy but she actually has policies the American people would like and benefit from. Of anyone, the easiest win in the general would probably be Bernie or AOC. But the DNC will never let any of the 3 people I mentioned get the nomination, so they'll just keep failing the American people and letting fascism grow more powerful. The Democrats continuing to run people like Biden is why they can never stay in power long. They are supposed to be the "bleeding heart" party, the one that helps out disadvantaged people and is progressive on social issues, etc. But they're just as elitist as the Republican party in reality, and similarly corporate. So people don't believe in them. Even though there are more left wing people than right wing people in America, the Democrats (the supposed left wing party) continue to have mixed results. Why? They don't give left wing people enough to vote for. "At least we're better than the other guys" isn't a winning campaign slogan.
I believe that's a well-thought out answer. Take notes, diamenz.
diamenz
08-11-2023, 09:18 PM
I believe that's a well-thought out answer. Take notes, diamenz.
i'm forty years old, little bruh. if i'm taking any notes they're only made to be passed down to young, naive cats such as yourself.
you also don't get any points for circle jerking someone else without providing your own insight.
diamenz
08-11-2023, 09:20 PM
I did. You type a lot but say nothing at the same time.
Again I ask: who should it be from Democrats if not Biden?
did i not mention West? you didn't even know he was running, did you?
West isn't running as a Democrat. Why would you expect anyone who's team Democrat to know or care about him.
Patrick Chewing
08-11-2023, 09:41 PM
4 pages and they haven’t been able to produce one name. lmao
amazing
That's ****ing unbelievable :oldlol:
diamenz
08-11-2023, 09:42 PM
West isn't running as a Democrat. Why would you expect anyone who's team Democrat to know or care about him.
that's true, you're right. what i don't understand why anyone would actively be team democrat.
No political party is truly worth support. There are certainly better options the ones we have in America though.
bladefd
08-11-2023, 10:35 PM
did i not mention West? you didn't even know he was running, did you?
Are you talking about Kanye West? Or some other West. Looked like a joke to me.
diamenz
08-12-2023, 08:23 AM
Are you talking about Kanye West? Or some other West. Looked like a joke to me.
cornel west.
Patrick Chewing
08-12-2023, 09:29 AM
He's a Democrat who has no idea what Democrats are running for office. All he knows is Trump bad. :oldlol:
He's a Democrat who has no idea what Democrats are running for office. All he knows is Trump bad. :oldlol:
Cornel West is not a Democrat.
Jasper
08-12-2023, 11:47 AM
If Trump even gets to the primary , do you think Hurd or Christie could knock him off ?
You have some demo's and Bipartisan guys like me , thinking of them.
blocking Trump ends his political career, but voting the norm for a candidate puts us always in the same boat.
bladefd
08-12-2023, 12:57 PM
cornel west.
Is he running for president? He used to be on real time with bill maher often. Smart fellow but is he running as a Democrat? I would certainly vote for him in primaries. However, I would not vote for him in general election if he runs as 3rd party and if Biden/Trump are against each other. It's equivalent to throwing my vote away, which is the situation when gop wins
bladefd
08-12-2023, 01:13 PM
Couple things I would question West on:
1) dissolving all alliances including NATO. Why? You have to keep NATO intact, but I don't mind cutting back on how much USA contributes. Let other countries from Europe contribute more but I would definitely not take the hammer to NATO
2) legalizing all drugs. Can't support all drugs being legalized. Legalize pot and don't legalize stuff like cocaine
3) reparations to African-Americans. I'm assuming that is for slavery. What sort of reparations (in form of money or other form like education?)? If it's cash, why now 170 years later?
Couple things I would question West on:
1) dissolving all alliances including NATO. Why? You have to keep NATO intact, but I don't mind cutting back on how much USA contributes. Let other countries from Europe contribute more but I would definitely not take the hammer to NATO
2) legalizing all drugs. Can't support all drugs being legalized. Legalize pot and don't legalize stuff like cocaine
3) reparations to African-Americans. I'm assuming that is for slavery. What sort of reparations (in form of money or other form like education?)? If it's cash, why now 170 years later?
1. NATO is mostly destructive and imperialistic that’s a good policy.
2. He’s right. People should be able to do what they want.
3. You can’t make up for slavery and systemic racism but you could at least try. Support this too.
Patrick Chewing
08-12-2023, 02:08 PM
Can't wait till the U.S. is majority Hispanic that way we don't have to talk about reparations anymore for the 13%.
Giving people money exclusively because of their skin color and excluding all other races is just about the dumbest idea ever.
Can't wait till the U.S. is majority Hispanic that way we don't have to talk about reparations anymore for the 13%.
Giving people money exclusively because of their skin color and excluding all other races is just about the dumbest idea ever.
Steaming. Indigenous people should get reparations too. Cry about it fats.
Patrick Chewing
08-12-2023, 02:50 PM
Steaming. Indigenous people should get reparations too. Cry about it fats.
They do get reparations. It's called not having to pay taxes. Educate yourself, half-breed.
They do get reparations. It's called not having to pay taxes. Educate yourself, half-breed.
Dim bulb chewy at it again. Yikes. He also admits he has no indigenous ancestry which we already knew. A white Cuban. Ancestry solely from Spain. Typical.
Patrick Chewing
08-12-2023, 03:15 PM
Dim bulb chewy at it again. Yikes. He also admits he has no indigenous ancestry which we already knew. A white Cuban. Ancestry solely from Spain. Typical.
Not sure which gene is the one responsible for your stupidity right now, whether it's the White one or the Black one (but I have my suspicions), but indigenous Latinos are the not the same as Native Americans. So your attempt to give money to people whose ancestors never stepped foot on American soil is idiotic and just proves to us that you hate this country and your intentions are not good, but quite the opposite.
Lakers Legend#32
08-12-2023, 03:56 PM
Can't wait till the U.S. is majority Hispanic that way we don't have to talk about reparations anymore for the 13%.
Giving people money exclusively because of their skin color and excluding all other races is just about the dumbest idea ever.
Hispanics will see you as a sell-out to the white man.
Patrick Chewing
08-12-2023, 04:28 PM
Hispanics will see you as a sell-out to the white man.
We're not racists like White Liberals and Blacks who think that they should only interact with their own kind.
Lakers Legend#32
08-12-2023, 04:55 PM
We're not racists like White Liberals and Blacks who think that they should only interact with their own kind.
Kissing ass of the white man is not interacting.
Not sure which gene is the one responsible for your stupidity right now, whether it's the White one or the Black one (but I have my suspicions), but indigenous Latinos are the not the same as Native Americans. So your attempt to give money to people whose ancestors never stepped foot on American soil is idiotic and just proves to us that you hate this country and your intentions are not good, but quite the opposite.
Yes I hate America. Finally figured it out? You’re not very bright.
Patrick Chewing
08-12-2023, 08:53 PM
Yes I hate America. Finally figured it out? You’re not very bright.
You're sad. You live in the best country in the world and you want to see it burn. Why not just kill yourself instead?
You're sad. You live in the best country in the world and you want to see it burn. Why not just kill yourself instead?
Look how mad you get when someone doesn't worship America :roll: America isn't the best country in the world to live in by any metric. Unforunately for you they track this stuff.
Jasper
08-12-2023, 10:47 PM
You're sad. You live in the best country in the world and you want to see it burn. Why not just kill yourself instead?
we are actually waiting for you to do it first and clean up ISH.
Take Jalopy with you .
Patrick Chewing
08-12-2023, 11:08 PM
Look how mad you get when someone doesn't worship America :roll: America isn't the best country in the world to live in by any metric. Unforunately for you they track this stuff.
Ugh!!! I'm so mad you're an anarchist shithead that hates this country! You have no idea!
Baller234
08-13-2023, 10:13 AM
The right must be winning because even in the last month or so I've noticed a dramatic shift in the way that lefties on this forum are starting to act. They've been backed into such a corner that they don't even pretend to have rational reasons for their opinions anymore.
They're either in full on troll mode or they're outright admitting that they hate America.
diamenz
08-13-2023, 10:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIVVixUbuUo
diamenz
08-13-2023, 10:22 AM
Giving people money exclusively because of their skin color and excluding all other races is just about the dumbest idea ever.
agreed. it's not just that - if slavery had happened yesterday then there could be a legitimate conversation. no living man or woman (or whatever) went through slavery and should therefore never be considered for it.
agreed. it's not just that - if slavery had happened yesterday then there could be a legitimate conversation. no living man or woman (or whatever) went through slavery and should therefore never be considered for it.
People were still getting lynched all the time when my mom was growing up and I'm one of the younger posters on here. Y'all continuously act like stuff like that is way farther in the past that it actually is.
Patrick Chewing
08-13-2023, 07:01 PM
People were still getting lynched all the time when my mom was growing up and I'm one of the younger posters on here. Y'all continuously act like stuff like that is way farther in the past that it actually is.
Slavery. Not lynching. SLAVERY. If reparations were handed out for random murders, then Blacks would have to take money from themselves.
Slavery. Not lynching. SLAVERY. If reparations were handed out for random murders, then Blacks would have to take money from themselves.
“Random murders” :roll: :roll: :roll:
Fatrick the GOAT retard :bowdown:
Patrick Chewing
08-13-2023, 11:33 PM
“Random murders” :roll: :roll: :roll:
Fatrick the GOAT retard :bowdown:
Yes, you idiot. You're now asking money for random murders. I bet you wake up every day and hate the fact that you're half White. How does that feel?
Yes, you idiot. You're now asking money for random murders. I bet you wake up every day and hate the fact that you're half White. How does that feel?
You still don't get why what you said is dumb :roll: :roll: :roll:
Patrick Chewing
08-13-2023, 11:44 PM
You still don't get why what you said is dumb :roll: :roll: :roll:
Embrace your Whiteness. Embrace your European ancestry.
Jasper
08-17-2023, 02:38 PM
The right must be winning because even in the last month or so I've noticed a dramatic shift in the way that lefties on this forum are starting to act. They've been backed into such a corner that they don't even pretend to have rational reasons for their opinions anymore.
They're either in full on troll mode or they're outright admitting that they hate America.
:oldlol::facepalm:oldlol:
Jasper
08-17-2023, 02:41 PM
We're not racists like White Liberals and Blacks who think that they should only interact with their own kind.
sounds like pretty much a nazi racist thought if you ask me.
wait let me show how diverse I am I'll post a thread of a black model , and say I'll hit her up.
Slave owners used to hit up those black butt's too.
Patrick Chewing
08-17-2023, 03:29 PM
sounds like pretty much a nazi racist thought if you ask me.
wait let me show how diverse I am I'll post a thread of a black model , and say I'll hit her up.
Slave owners used to hit up those black butt's too.
What you're doing is dumb. I can call you a racist just as many times as you can call me a racist. You're only doing it cause our politics differ from yours. The fact of the matter is, there is very little racism in this country anymore, and if there is, it's primarily coming from Blacks from the looks of it.
So you calling me a racist doesn't mean anything. With a name like yours and the fact that you live on a farm, there is a high likelihood that you don't interact with other races on a daily basis as I do. And you know what? That's fine.
John8204
08-17-2023, 04:02 PM
I'm actually a conservative who left the party under Bush and the rise of Fox. I voted for Kasich and would have voted for Pataki if he ran. If Romney ran against Biden I would like vote for Romney. But I'm not voting for Trump or DeSantis, I don't vote for bigots and rapists. My prefered candidate is Katie Porter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siFkEWcra10
Baller234
08-17-2023, 04:16 PM
I don't vote for bigots and rapists
Photo of Donald Trump holding hands with a KKK leader
https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/presto/2020/06/14/USAT/ac471419-59e4-4865-bb7f-42eb5b9115d4-AP_Obama_Biden_2008.JPG
Lakers Legend#32
08-17-2023, 04:54 PM
wait let me show how diverse I am I'll post a thread of a black model , and say I'll hit her up.
Slave owners used to hit up those black butt's too.
This is Poopsie's cover. If he does this, then he thinks he's OK to post his most vile racist crap.
And none of his black models are of the dark skinned variety. He hates all black women that did not have at least one white parent.
John8204
08-17-2023, 05:05 PM
Photo of Donald Trump holding hands with a KKK leader
https://www.usatoday.com/gcdn/presto/2020/06/14/USAT/ac471419-59e4-4865-bb7f-42eb5b9115d4-AP_Obama_Biden_2008.JPG
Former KKK leader I don't know when that picture was taken but didn't Byrd leave the Klan in the 1950's,
Baller234
08-17-2023, 09:25 PM
Former KKK leader I don't know when that picture was taken but didn't Byrd leave the Klan in the 1950's,
That would make him a KKK leader.
:oldlol:
Patrick Chewing
08-17-2023, 09:33 PM
I'm actually a conservative who left the party under Bush and the rise of Fox. I voted for Kasich and would have voted for Pataki if he ran. If Romney ran against Biden I would like vote for Romney. But I'm not voting for Trump or DeSantis, I don't vote for bigots and rapists. My prefered candidate is Katie Porter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siFkEWcra10
With all due respect, this is why Republicans lose. The Party needs to shift away from the same status quo. And yes, it's been beaten to death how brash and rude Trump's character is, but his politics are where the Party needs to change to, and that is evident by how the Republican voters voted the last two elections. The only people who can beat Democrats nowadays are populists that take the Party to where the people want it to go.
Calling Republican candidates bigots and rapists is lazy cause it just ain't true.
John8204
08-19-2023, 08:10 AM
With all due respect, this is why Republicans lose. The Party needs to shift away from the same status quo. And yes, it's been beaten to death how brash and rude Trump's character is, but his politics are where the Party needs to change to, and that is evident by how the Republican voters voted the last two elections. The only people who can beat Democrats nowadays are populists that take the Party to where the people want it to go.
Calling Republican candidates bigots and rapists is lazy cause it just ain't true.
So even though you have a half dozen accusations against Trump you are saying Trump never raped anyone.
Baller234
08-19-2023, 09:58 AM
So even though you have a half dozen accusations against Trump you are saying Trump never raped anyone.
Trump was also accused of being a russian agent. Turns out that was bullshit too.
And as I said in the other thread, Biden was also accused by multiple women of unwanted touching and advances. So your argument is moot.
An accusation means jack shit. Anyone can make an accusation. Are you this gullible?
John8204
08-19-2023, 10:12 AM
Trump was also accused of being a russian agent. Turns out that was bullshit too.
And as I said in the other thread, Biden was also accused by multiple women of unwanted touching and advances. So your argument is moot.
An accusation means jack shit. Anyone can make an accusation. Are you this gullible?
It's not a one to one case, Trumps accusers have sued him they've gone to court over this. And he has been found guilty he also confessed on tape to sexually assaulting women, he's confessed on tape to entering women's changing room in the Pagents. Biden never did anything illegal, and his accuser has now defected to Russia. As for Trump not being a Russian agent his company has taken in money from North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and China.
20 million dollars from North Korea
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/05/donald-trump-daewoo-loan-financial-disclosure
Baller234
08-19-2023, 10:26 AM
It's not a one to one case, Trumps accusers have sued him they've gone to court over this. And he has been found guilty he also confessed on tape to sexually assaulting women, he's confessed on tape to entering women's changing room in the Pagents. Biden never did anything illegal, and his accuser has now defected to Russia. As for Trump not being a Russian agent his company has taken in money from North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and China.
20 million dollars from North Korea
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/05/donald-trump-daewoo-loan-financial-disclosure
Why do you care that Trump has made money from other countries? Why is that a knock in your eyes?
Every president has done the same. Why is it only a problem when Trump does it? I'm genuinely asking.
John8204
08-19-2023, 11:35 AM
Why do you care that Trump has made money from other countries? Why is that a knock in your eyes?
Every president has done the same. Why is it only a problem when Trump does it? I'm genuinely asking.
I care if the leader of the free world is getting paid by regimes that have death camps. It's kinda a big deal for me
Baller234
08-19-2023, 11:42 AM
I care if the leader of the free world is getting paid by regimes that have death camps. It's kinda a big deal for me
Okay, so then what is your opinion of the Biden family doing business with Communist China?
What was your opinion when Obama sent $400 million in cash to Iran?
Patrick Chewing
08-19-2023, 11:50 AM
So even though you have a half dozen accusations against Trump you are saying Trump never raped anyone.
What makes you think he raped someone? Where does that thought that he did come from?
John8204
08-19-2023, 12:07 PM
What makes you think he raped someone? Where does that thought that he did come from?
Dozens of accusers and a taped confession to sexually assaulting women
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o21fXqguD7U
Okay, so then what is your opinion of the Biden family doing business with Communist China?
What was your opinion when Obama sent $400 million in cash to Iran?
I don't like companies and individuals who have ties to China but that's not something we can do much about.
I support the Obama doctrine and sending money to Iran, it was there money to begin with that we basically stole from them. The country paid for Jets we didn't give them the Jets or the money. Frankly we're not the good guys in the history of Iran including up to Trump and his sanctions of medicine and medical treatment for Iranians.
Patrick Chewing
08-19-2023, 12:13 PM
I grab my women the same way he described. Every man does with the woman they're with. How does that equate to rape?
And time and time again female accusers are proven to be full of shit. Accusing a rich man like Trump of rape is an almost certain payday cause people like him just want the negative publicity to go away.
Being accused of something does not equal to being guilty of said accusation. Even that most recent accuser that won in civil court admitted there was no penetration. These women are in it for a payday. Nothing more and nothing less.
Baller234
08-19-2023, 12:14 PM
Dozens of accusers and a taped confession to sexually assaulting women
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o21fXqguD7U
I don't like companies and individuals who have ties to China but that's not something we can do much about.
I support the Obama doctrine and sending money to Iran, it was there money to begin with that we basically stole from them. The country paid for Jets we didn't give them the Jets or the money. Frankly we're not the good guys in the history of Iran including up to Trump and his sanctions of medicine and medical treatment for Iranians.
LMAO
"I don't like doing business with morally bankrupt countries but "LET'S SEND BILLIONS TO IRAN!"
:oldlol::oldlol::oldlol:
As for the pus*y tape, Trump is not admitting to doing anything. He is saying that when you are rich and famous there are women who will let you grab them by the pus*y. Is this shocking to you? Do you not get out much? Do you have Instagram? You don't think if Leonardo Dicaprio walks into a room, that 90% of the women in that room would let him have their way with them?
While democrats were freaking out over this nothing burger of a reveal, his opponent running for president was married to a guy who visited Epstein Island over 20 times.
Spare us your phony outrage. You aren't fooling anyone.
Baller234
08-19-2023, 12:16 PM
I grab my women the same way he described. Every man does with the woman they're with. How does that equate to rape?
And time and time again female accusers are proven to be full of shit. Accusing a rich man like Trump of rape is an almost certain payday cause people like him just want the negative publicity to go away.
Being accused of something does not equal to being guilty of said accusation. Even that most recent accuser that won in civil court admitted there was no penetration. These women are in it for a payday. Nothing more and nothing less.
They pick and choose when it's convenient for them.
If Orange Face is accused, it is proof of guilt.
If Biden is accused, it's not credible or it's russian disinformation.
John8204
08-19-2023, 12:44 PM
LMAO
"I don't like doing business with morally bankrupt countries but "LET'S SEND BILLIONS TO IRAN!"
:oldlol::oldlol::oldlol:
As for the pus*y tape, Trump is not admitting to doing anything. He is saying that when you are rich and famous there are women who will let you grab them by the pus*y. Is this shocking to you? Do you not get out much? Do you have Instagram? You don't think if Leonardo Dicaprio walks into a room, that 90% of the women in that room would let him have their way with them?
While democrats were freaking out over this nothing burger of a reveal, his opponent running for president was married to a guy who visited Epstein Island over 20 times.
Spare us your phony outrage. You aren't fooling anyone.
We didn't send money to Iran we returned hundreds of millions of dollars we stole from them. This is an historical fact that you are blatantly trying to ignore. A typical bad faith argument from a liar. Guy says he grabs women's genitals...women come out and say man forcefully grabbed my genitals. You reaction...oh I need more proof.
Why didn't any other accuser come out and claim Biden sexually assaulted or raped them after Tara Reade? Reade defecting to Russia before Biden's term is up (when he can sue her) is pretty telling in my eyes.
Why is it so hard for the republican party to find a candidate who doesn't have multiple credible rape accusations against them.
Baller234
08-19-2023, 12:50 PM
We didn't send money to Iran we returned hundreds of millions of dollars we stole from them. This is an historical fact that you are blatantly trying to ignore. A typical bad faith argument from a liar. Guy says he grabs women's genitals...women come out and say man forcefully grabbed my genitals. You reaction...oh I need more proof.
Why didn't any other accuser come out and claim Biden sexually assaulted or raped them after Tara Reade? Reade defecting to Russia before Biden's term is up (when he can sue her) is pretty telling in my eyes.
Why is it so hard for the republican party to find a candidate who doesn't have multiple credible rape accusations against them.
Biden took showers with his daughter and his son had him in his cell phone as "Pedo Pete".
Lakers Legend#32
08-19-2023, 02:28 PM
I grab my women the same way he described.
You have no women.
For argument sake, if you had a woman, she would be too fat for anyone to fully grab.
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