View Full Version : US struggle against Slovenia - win 92-62
90sgoat
08-13-2023, 02:33 PM
US barely beat a Donic and Dragic less Slovenia team by 30 points.
Slovenia without Doncic and Dragic is a c-level team, very bad, so it doesn't say much. This Slovenia team with no Doncic, and probably with, has no business being in the World Cup.
The US struggled from 3, shooting only 9 of 33, but their defense did look very solid. The addition of JJJ seems like a really good choice. The US guards, led by Brunson, Halliburton and Edwards looked quite solid and good at getting into the pain.
Tonight will play Spain a much different challenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1K7hQEjoWw
Real Men Wear Green
08-13-2023, 02:36 PM
You can't barely win when you win by 30 unless you are claiming they had a 30 point explosion in the final 30 seconds. You can feel like there were bad signs but that's not the same thing.
Xiao Yao You
08-13-2023, 02:41 PM
US barely beat a Donic and Dragic less Slovenia team by 30 points.
Slovenia without Doncic and Dragic is a c-level team, very bad, so it doesn't say much. This Slovenia team with no Doncic, and probably with, has no business being in the World Cup.
The US struggled from 3, shooting only 9 of 33, but their defense did look very solid. The addition of JJJ seems like a really good choice. The US guards, led by Brunson, Halliburton and Edwards looked quite solid and good at getting into the pain.
Tonight will play Spain a much different challenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1K7hQEjoWw
:facepalm
92-62. That sure was a close Game.
I´m glad that the Buzzer Beater by the US Team was worth 32 pts under FIBA rules.
Otherwise that could have gone into Overtime.
Xiao Yao You
08-13-2023, 05:51 PM
Nice win today. This isn't the 2019 team that's for sure!
90sgoat
08-13-2023, 06:12 PM
Nice win today. This isn't the 2019 team that's for sure!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK9pbvRIo2U
Spain seemed to hang around well for most of the game and were up in the late 3rd quarter.
I've only seen highlights, but the US should hope that JJJ stays healthy, because he is dominating the offensive boards against both Slovenia and Spain.
Brunson is also a beast and a leader.
If either of those guys get into foul trouble or injuries then the US team is going to struggle.
It seems to be a much better constructed team though.
Xiao Yao You
08-13-2023, 06:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK9pbvRIo2U
Spain seemed to hang around well for most of the game and were up in the late 3rd quarter.
I've only seen highlights, but the US should hope that JJJ stays healthy, because he is dominating the offensive boards against both Slovenia and Spain.
Brunson is also a beast and a leader..
If either of those guys get into foul trouble or injuries then the US team is going to struggle.
It seems to be a much better constructed team though.
not the Spain we're used to. I think only Rudi Fernandez is left from the old guard. Not sure they are the #1 team
hold this L
08-13-2023, 06:47 PM
Barely won by 30 points :lol
90sgoat
08-13-2023, 07:48 PM
not the Spain we're used to. I think only Rudi Fernandez is left from the old guard. Not sure they are the #1 team
Yeah, they're undersized most important, which is not what we're used to seeing, but they only have Hernangomez as center it seems like.
They do have some really, really good teamplay and many sharpshooters.
I think their lack of size will be an issue though.
Overall, the US seems to be favorites. Jokic and Giannis are out, so there's no real contender. Slovenia is a third rate team without Luka. They'd have to be extremely lucky to win in the final rounds.
Xiao Yao You
08-13-2023, 08:19 PM
Yeah, they're undersized most important, which is not what we're used to seeing, but they only have Hernangomez as center it seems like.
They do have some really, really good teamplay and many sharpshooters.
I think their lack of size will be an issue though.
Overall, the US seems to be favorites. Jokic and Giannis are out, so there's no real contender. Slovenia is a third rate team without Luka. They'd have to be extremely lucky to win in the final rounds.
have my doubts. Reminds me too much of the teams before the redeem team. Young guys. Kerr will deserve a lot of credit if he can win with them
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-13-2023, 08:41 PM
Only on ISH is a 30 point blowout a "struggle" lol
Never change yall
90sgoat
08-13-2023, 08:48 PM
have my doubts. Reminds me too much of the teams before the redeem team. Young guys. Kerr will deserve a lot of credit if he can win with them
They have fixed their two main issues with Brunson and JJJ though, but yeah, they weren't dominant against Spain, so everything is possible, ball bounces the wrong way a couple times.
Xiao Yao You
08-13-2023, 08:50 PM
They have fixed their two main issues with Brunson and JJJ though, but yeah, they weren't dominant against Spain, so everything is possible, ball bounces the wrong way a couple times.
Didn't expect them to be dominate the #1 team on the road. Nice win
ralph_i_el
08-14-2023, 10:11 AM
Brunson is maybe the idea FIBA lead guard. He can take the increase perimeter physicality, and he has a great midrange/ in-between game to foil the extra rim defense (from not having a defensive 3-second rule)
90sgoat
08-14-2023, 02:14 PM
Brunson is maybe the idea FIBA lead guard. He can take the increase perimeter physicality, and he has a great midrange/ in-between game to foil the extra rim defense (from not having a defensive 3-second rule)
Correct.
Well, I've been pro-Brunson even when he was with Mavs, because he is a leader and very controlled.
His flaws are also less bad in FIBA, such as being small, because of Def-3 seconds and packed paints, if he gets beaten, he doesn't automatically give up a bucket. His lack of fancy passing and playmaking also is less important, because FIBA relies more on team passing than on PnR and outlet passes. The FIBA guard is the original combo guard, with the caveat that the FIBA guard also must be a strong tactical and strategic mind.
WhiteKyrie
08-15-2023, 07:49 PM
Only on ISH is a 30 point blowout a "struggle" lol
Never change yall
Seriously smh
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