Someone who's never talked about but was up there with Kareem/Magic/Bird/Dr J

[iamgine]

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5f6a2443c6004d000a8d74df/1609965908671-APHXIEN6MXGPJWOVY4O2/Blog+Gus.jpg

This guy.

Was as good as Kareem/Magic/Bird/Dr J.

Doesn't show up in most list.

You don't even know who he is.

[RRR3]

OP thinks pretending to be braindead is funny.

[Xiao Yao You]

Gus Williams. Very good player. Not up with the all time greats

[SouBeachTalents]

Ignoring OP's shit take, Bob McAdoo would actually apply in the 70's.

[Xiao Yao You]

Ignoring OP's shit take, Bob McAdoo would actually apply in the 70's.

for a handful of years anyway

[1987_Lakers]

I thought this thread was gonna be about Sidney Moncrief, he wasn't on their level if we are judging each player by their prime, but there was a season or two where Moncrief was a top 5 player in the league.

[Kblaze8855]

I believe he was all NBA first team over magic, but this is the kind of thing where time and legacy over shadows perception from the people actually watching the league at the time. If you had some all nba type guard today put up 30 a game knocking somebody like KD like he did Kareems lakers? There would be a few people saying he was better. The trolls at least. Especially when he went on to win a ring.


These kinds of things do go to show you that all time rankings and legacy don’t really matter to a basketball game but at the same time all greats being closer than we wanna admit doesn’t mean there aren’t ways to distinguish a few tiers of greatness.

[Kblaze8855]

I thought this thread was gonna be about Sidney Moncrief, he wasn't on their level if we are judging each player by their prime, but there was a season or two where Moncrief was a top 5 player in the league.


I first assumed Moses Malone or Marques Johnson. I saw people talking about Johnson recently for some reason. Might’ve been his birthday. I do distinctly remember some people at the time in recordings saying Johnson was better than Dr. J just without the hype. Not in those words, but that was the message. I feel like it might’ve been Bob Lanier, but it may have been from when they were playing together.

[SouBeachTalents]

I believe he was all NBA first team over magic, but this is the kind of thing where time and legacy over shadows perception from the people actually watching the league at the time. If you had some all nba type guard today put up 30 a game knocking somebody like KD like he did Kareems lakers? There would be a few people saying he was better. The trolls at least. Especially when he went on to win a ring.


These kinds of things do go to show you that all time rankings and legacy don’t really matter to a basketball game but at the same time all greats being closer than we wanna admit doesn’t mean there aren’t ways to distinguish a few tiers of greatness.
Seemed to be the Jimmy Butler of his day, good but far from BITW production in the regular season, then superstar caliber performances in the playoffs.

[John8204]

Ignoring OP's shit take, Bob McAdoo would actually apply in the 70's.

Tiny Archibald, George Gervin, Alex English, Dan Issell, Adrian Dantley, Bill Walton...

Not in the Hall of Fame has him in the top ten...but I disagree

[FultzNationRISE]

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5f6a2443c6004d000a8d74df/1609965908671-APHXIEN6MXGPJWOVY4O2/Blog+Gus.jpg

This guy.

Was as good as Kareem/Magic/Bird/Dr J.

Doesn't show up in most list.

You don't even know who he is.


Who is that, Carl Winslow before he had a family and put on weight?

Dude would be a JOKE in Lebron’s era :roll:

[tontoz]

2 All NBA teams in his career. He was a good player for sure but is he even top 100 all time? Iffy

[Xiao Yao You]

2 All NBA teams in his career. He was a good player for sure but is he even top 100 all time? Iffy

you forgot the ring which seems to trump all for most people

[tontoz]

you forgot the ring which seems to trump all for most people

I do remember that because they beat the Bullets/Wizards. That was the last time the Wizards got past the 2nd round. :(

[iamgine]

I first assumed Moses Malone or Marques Johnson. I saw people talking about Johnson recently for some reason. Might’ve been his birthday. I do distinctly remember some people at the time in recordings saying Johnson was better than Dr. J just without the hype. Not in those words, but that was the message. I feel like it might’ve been Bob Lanier, but it may have been from when they were playing together.

The likes of Sidney or Moses was great, but they were absolutely not at the level of Kareem/Magic/Bird/Dr J.

[RRR3]

The likes of Sidney or Moses was great, but they were absolutely not at the level of Kareem/Magic/Bird/Dr J.
So true Gus Williams was better than Moses Malone. Complete bottom of the barrel trolling.

[iamgine]

So true Gus Williams was better than Moses Malone. Complete bottom of the barrel trolling.

He actually was though.

[tontoz]

He actually was though.



When did Gus win MVP? I must have missed it

Moses won it at least twice I believe.

Just stop

[ShawkFactory]

When did Gus win MVP? I must have missed it

Moses won it at least twice I believe.

Just stop

He won 3 times. It’s a weird argument to make.

It’d be like arguing that Jamal Murray is better than Giannis or something.

[RRR3]

OP thinks pretending to be braindead is funny.
Like I said on page 1. No one else is amused though.

[iamgine]

When did Gus win MVP? I must have missed it

Moses won it at least twice I believe.

Just stop

Moses won MVP 3 times.

Wasn't better than Gus.

[1987_Lakers]

OP is a damn troll at this point.

[iamgine]

He won 3 times. It’s a weird argument to make.

It’d be like arguing that Jamal Murray is better than Giannis or something.

It's only cause Moses wasn't actually that good. His first MVP? Plenty of guys were better than him. Gervin, Marques Johnson for example.

Meanwhile Giannis is actually really good.

[RogueBorg]

He actually was though.

Oh hell no.

Moses is 3x MVP, 10th all-time scoring, and is the all-time offensive rebounding leader by a wide margin (although it wasn't tracked in Wilt and Russell's era.)

[Xiao Yao You]

Moses wasn't good. The things you hear on ISH :roll:

[ShawkFactory]

It's only cause Moses wasn't actually that good. His first MVP? Plenty of guys were better than him. Gervin, Marques Johnson for example.

Meanwhile Giannis is actually really good.

Serious question...did you watch him?

[Jasper]

kind of a stupid thread , and yet the point is super stars out shadow all-stars.

Problem is all the players in the thread were all all-stars, back in the day when it meant something.