Who was the better President, Donald Trump or Joe Biden?

[jstern]

Who will be remembered as the better President between Donald Trump and Joe Biden?


I chose Donald Trump.

[RRR3]

Both were complete ass.

[Baller234]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoMnN60nm51kqp9I8CcoAzxAINFwjZs 11ikw&usqp=CAU

- Booming economy
- Zero wars
- Funny & entertaining
- Exposed the uniparty and their deep state cohorts



https://www.datocms-assets.com/36798/1639411886-gettyimages-1234897150-1.jpg?crop=focalpoint&fit=crop&fp-x=0.8&fp-y=0.26&h=256&w=256

- Recession
- Looming threat of global conflict
- Forced vaccinations
- Reignited the Taliban

[Patrick Chewing]

I voted for Donald Trump. And what I'm truly hoping happens is that he wins again in 2024, and then just goes to all out war against the Democrats. Yes, I want all Liberals imprisoned. And before you guys accuse me of being a tyrant or something crazy, let me explain to you that Liberals are a scourge on society. They are walking demons in the flesh. They must be eradicated. All they do is destroy. So they have no place walking among the rest of us blue-collar, hardworking citizens.


If there is a draft to round up Liberals, I'll be the first in line.

[RRR3]

I voted for Donald Trump. And what I'm truly hoping happens is that he wins again in 2024, and then just goes to all out war against the Democrats. Yes, I want all Liberals imprisoned.


If there is a draft to round up Liberals, I'll be the first in line.
So you want fascism.

[Patrick Chewing]

So you want fascism.

You're the last person in the world I should have to explain something to, but the Liberals of today ARE THE FASCISTS. That's why they need to go.

[RRR3]

You're the last person in the world I should have to explain something to, but the Liberals of today ARE THE FASCISTS. That's why they need to go.
I don't believe in a state, but even if you forced me to pick some form of state government I wouldn't pick one where you just summarily imprison and or execute people. Jesus.

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't believe in a state, but even if you forced me to pick some form of state government I wouldn't pick one where you just summarily imprison and or execute people. Jesus.

And that's exactly what Liberal governments are doing right now. Imprisoning the opposition, dissenters, etc. People are getting locked up in the UK just for insulting someone on Twitter. Don't believe me? Look it up. And if anyone out there thinks going after Trump is just a special occasion, then you are a blind fool. If Liberal DA's are successful in going after Trump, nothing will stop them from going after the average citizen. Hell, even what I'm saying here can be construed as illegal speech and I can be arrested and imprisoned for it. This is the Bolshevik Revolution all over again.

So before they go down that road which technically they have already gone down, these Liberals must be destroyed.

[RRR3]

And that's exactly what Liberal governments are doing right now. Imprisoning the opposition, dissenters, etc. People are getting locked up in the UK just for insulting someone on Twitter. Don't believe me? Look it up. And if anyone out there thinks going after Trump is just a special occasion, then you are a blind fool. If Liberal DA's are successful in going after Trump, nothing will stop them from going after the average citizen. Hell, even what I'm saying here can be construed as illegal speech and I can be arrested and imprisoned for it. This is the Bolshevik Revolution all over again.

So before they go down that road which technically they have already gone down, these Liberals must be destroyed.
You act like I support the UK or US governments. And you weren't talking about going after corrupt politicians (which might be reasonable if you cared about corruption on both sides, but you don't), you were talking about the average citizen.

[Lakers Legend#32]

I voted for Donald Trump. And what I'm truly hoping happens is that he wins again in 2024, and then just goes to all out war against the Democrats. Yes, I want all Liberals imprisoned. And before you guys accuse me of being a tyrant or something crazy, let me explain to you that Liberals are a scourge on society. They are walking demons in the flesh. They must be eradicated. All they do is destroy. So they have no place walking among the rest of us blue-collar, hardworking citizens.


If there is a draft to round up Liberals, I'll be the first in line.

Oh yeah, this sounds like someone who said he only "mildly" supports Trump.

[jstern]

And that's exactly what Liberal governments are doing right now. Imprisoning the opposition, dissenters, etc. People are getting locked up in the UK just for insulting someone on Twitter. Don't believe me? Look it up. And if anyone out there thinks going after Trump is just a special occasion, then you are a blind fool. If Liberal DA's are successful in going after Trump, nothing will stop them from going after the average citizen. Hell, even what I'm saying here can be construed as illegal speech and I can be arrested and imprisoned for it. This is the Bolshevik Revolution all over again.

So before they go down that road which technically they have already gone down, these Liberals must be destroyed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_yHcFk-QU4

An autistic girl was arrested after telling an officer she looked like her lesbian nan (Nanny). The word lesbian is not a proper term and could get you arrested in the United Kingdom.

That female lesbian officer was empowered by the current woke environment. Simply saying that she looks like a lesbian could get you arrested.

Note: In 30 years, the word autistic will probably get banned and get replaced by another word which will get banned 50 years later.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lTQXGII_AAk/maxresdefault.jpg

[1987_Lakers]

Yall are so extreme. :oldlol:

But Trump was the more effective president if you are strictly looking at policies.

[Patrick Chewing]

You act like I support the UK or US governments. And you weren't talking about going after corrupt politicians (which might be reasonable if you cared about corruption on both sides, but you don't), you were talking about the average citizen.

The average Liberal citizen endorses this tyranny. So they have to go too.


It's the war against Communism all over again. Liberals have become Commies now and they want to shut down and destroy anything and anyone that goes against their world view. They first label you a bad guy, then they turn your speech into hate speech, then they come after you and arrest you. And when that's not enough, they will label you terrorists, enemies of the state and put you in front of a firing squad.

I bet you there are millions of Liberals right now, Liberals who are childless and Godless and void of any type of familial love who want to see Conservatives get rounded up and executed. So yeah, before we get to that point, it's time to eliminate these people and that way of thinking.

And because I'm actually a rational human being, the best way to get back to normalcy in this country is to have leadership that actually enforces the Constitution and stands by it, as opposed to leadership that circumvents it and calls it outdated or racist.

[RRR3]

The average Liberal citizen endorses this tyranny. So they have to go too.


It's the war against Communism all over again. Liberals have become Commies now and they want to shut down and destroy anything and anyone that goes against their world view. They first label you a bad guy, then they turn your speech into hate speech, then they come after you and arrest you. And when that's not enough, they will label you terrorists, enemies of the state and put you in front of a firing squad.

I bet you there are millions of Liberals right now, Liberals who are childless and Godless and void of any type of familial love who want to see Conservatives get rounded up and executed. So yeah, before we get to that point, it's time to eliminate these people and that way of thinking.

And because I'm actually a rational human being, the best way to get back to normalcy in this country is to have leadership that actually enforces the Constitution and stands by it, as opposed to leadership that circumvents it and calls it outdated or racist.
^the delusinal ramblings of a lunatic.

[Patrick Chewing]

^the delusinal ramblings of a lunatic.

Commies and Liberals will never rule over us.

[RRR3]

Commies and Liberals will never rule over us.
I thought Biden was a communist? Isn't he the President? Make up your pea-sized mind.

[rmt]

My quality of life was better under Trump. I was worth more, I wasn't putting back food because the prices were too high, I wasn't paying over $30k for a 2 year old Camry with over 30k miles on it, I wasn't worried about my kids not being able to buy a house because of high interest rates, I wasn't complaining about our government spending too much money on a seemingly endless war, I wasn't thinking about delaying retirement because of inflation.

At work, we used to go out to lunch every Friday. Now, we never go out because it's at least $20 for a meal.

[John8204]

Biden has been a far better President than Trump. People gloss over all the crap Trump did but under Biden we've had a stable government. Russia is losing to the Ukraine, North Korea/China are both in decline, the US's biggest issue is inflation which Biden can't do anything about, and the war in Afghanistan is over.

Trump was a negative president, Biden so far has been a relatively positive one.

[rmt]

Biden has been a far better President than Trump. People gloss over all the crap Trump did but under Biden we've had a stable government. Russia is losing to the Ukraine, North Korea/China are both in decline, the US's biggest issue is inflation which Biden can't do anything about, and the war in Afghanistan is over.

Trump was a negative president, Biden so far has been a relatively positive one.

I beg to differ. Under Trump, there was NO Ukraine/Russian WAR, there was no Chinese spy balloon flying across the US, there was no downgrade of the US credit rating, there was not $7.12 billion worth of weapons left behind in enemy hands in Afghanistan.

Biden's America Rescue Plan and continued spending has exacerbated inflation.

[John8204]

I beg to differ. Under Trump, there was NO Ukraine/Russian WAR, there was no Chinese spy balloon flying across the US, there was no downgrade of the US credit rating, there was not $7.12 billion worth of weapons left behind in enemy hands in Afghanistan.

Biden's America Rescue Plan and continued spending has exacerbated inflation.

Yes under Trump all we didn't have were Secretaries of States, heads of the FBI, CIA, attorney General. Also the whole no wars under Trump must be news to all those kurds Turkey murdered when we removed our peacekeepers. And we'll just ignore the fact that Trump withheld aid to Ukraine...which is strange because why would a country not at war need military aid from us.

Trump also took millions of dollars from North Korea who didn't send a balloon over the states instead sent a missile test near Hawaii. The violation of the emoluments clause which allowed countries to spend millions of dollars in Trump hotels and apartment complexes.

He also selected three supreme court judges who stripped women of their reproductive rights...so that wasn't great.

[rmt]

Yes under Trump all we didn't have were Secretaries of States, heads of the FBI, CIA, attorney General. Also the whole no wars under Trump must be news to all those kurds Turkey murdered when we removed our peacekeepers. And we'll just ignore the fact that Trump withheld aid to Ukraine...which is strange because why would a country not at war need military aid from us.

Trump also took millions of dollars from North Korea who didn't send a balloon over the states instead sent a missile test near Hawaii. The violation of the emoluments clause which allowed countries to spend millions of dollars in Trump hotels and apartment complexes.

He also selected three supreme court judges who stripped women of their reproductive rights...so that wasn't great.

Bolded ??? (what you wrote doesn't make sense) I remember there being Secretary of State, heads of FBI, CIA and Attorney General under Trump.

I specifically mentioned Ukraine/Russian war to which we are funding billions of dollars with no end in sight. This unchecked, unaccountable flow of money to Ukraine - one of the most corrupt countries - should decrease if the US insists on them negotiating an end to the war.

Both North Korea and China are bolder under Biden than under Trump.

When it comes to corruption, Biden and his influence peddling takes the cake between the two of them.


The supreme court judges rightly returned the abortion issue to the states. Even RBG had doubts about Roe:

Those more acquainted with Ginsburg and her thoughtful, nuanced approach to difficult legal questions were not surprised, however, to hear her say just the opposite, that Roe was a faulty decision. For Ginsburg, the landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision that affirmed a womanÂ’s right to an abortion was too far-reaching and too sweeping, and it gave anti-abortion rights activists a very tangible target to rally against in the four decades since.

“My criticism of Roe is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum on the side of change,” Ginsburg said. She would’ve preferred that abortion rights be secured more gradually, in a process that included state legislatures and the courts, she added. Ginsburg also was troubled that the focus on Roe was on a right to privacy, rather than women’s rights.

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-offers-critique-roe-v-wade-during-law-school-visit

[Jasper]

just based on woman voters not creating a rally after being elected... I'd say Biden.

But the Jury is out until full term is done.

[Jasper]

I beg to differ. Under Trump, there was NO Ukraine/Russian WAR, there was no Chinese spy balloon flying across the US, there was no downgrade of the US credit rating, there was not $7.12 billion worth of weapons left behind in enemy hands in Afghanistan.

Biden's America Rescue Plan and continued spending has exacerbated inflation.

blaming the war on Biden dosn't make sense.

[Jasper]

My quality of life was better under Trump. I was worth more, I wasn't putting back food because the prices were too high, I wasn't paying over $30k for a 2 year old Camry with over 30k miles on it, I wasn't worried about my kids not being able to buy a house because of high interest rates, I wasn't complaining about our government spending too much money on a seemingly endless war, I wasn't thinking about delaying retirement because of inflation.

At work, we used to go out to lunch every Friday. Now, we never go out because it's at least $20 for a meal.

good thing you are not living in Europe where gas prices for decades has been well over 5 bucks.

[Jasper]

I voted for Donald Trump. And what I'm truly hoping happens is that he wins again in 2024, and then just goes to all out war against the Democrats. Yes, I want all Liberals imprisoned. And before you guys accuse me of being a tyrant or something crazy, let me explain to you that Liberals are a scourge on society. They are walking demons in the flesh. They must be eradicated. All they do is destroy. So they have no place walking among the rest of us blue-collar, hardworking citizens.


If there is a draft to round up Liberals, I'll be the first in line.
like you did with ISH

[Baller234]

blaming the war on Biden dosn't make sense.

Lol, you guys blamed Trump for Covid.

Putin would have never thought about taking the offensive if Orange Face was president.

[BurningHammer]

Lol, you guys blamed Trump for Covid.

More of public crisis management failures.

[rmt]

good thing you are not living in Europe where gas prices for decades has been well over 5 bucks.

Aren't you libs/Dems the ones who want to copy Europe and its socialist bend? I'm the one who wants to go back to $2+/per gallon gas and Trump policies on drilling, Southern border, etc. Unfortunately, all those restaurant menu prices are not going to ever be lowered, those railroad union contracts are not going to be revoked - these and other price increases are now BAKED in.

[Baller234]

More of public crisis management failures.

Lol, okay bud.

Trump couldn't win no matter what he did. You guys were deliberate in your pursuit to portray him as a villain who didn't care about saving lives.

[Lakers Legend#32]

I voted for Donald Trump.

Inflation was 8.3% one year ago. Today it is 3.2%, which is more than a five percent decrease in 12 months. Biden's Inflation Reduction Act is working and not a single Republican in the House voted for it--although they are now campaigning on taking credit for it.

Oh yeah, unemployment is at historic lows.

Poopsie does not vote in his best interests. He votes for his entertainment.

[ILLsmak]

I am cool w trump and i think its mostly bs what they did / are doing to him, but ill gladly pass on trump if you admit biden beats dubya for the biggest clown and its an all out travesty we got to choose one of these 80 year old dudes. What is wrong with our country?

But fax, country was decent under trump. Just incessant whining. Now its opposite. Silence, rumors of “conspiracy theories” and dystopia.

Joe biden tho. Haha. Hes so bad you start to feel for laughing at his clown vids. Somewhere between corn pop and him face planting, reality sets in.

-Smak

[ILLsmak]

Inflation was 8.3% one year ago. Today it is 3.2%, which is more than a five percent decrease in 12 months. Biden's Inflation Reduction Act is working and not a single Republican in the House voted for it--although they are now campaigning on taking credit for it.

Oh yeah, unemployment is at historic lows.

Poopsie does not vote in his best interests. He votes for his entertainment.

What measurement is that? Stuff like electronics is ok but food prices are nuts. 6 bux for a box of cereal, 6 bux for a gallon of milk. Dats insane. Thats the place inflation is still busting our ass. I havent seen any of those items, including pet food, come down.

Problem is food is actually important, for pets and humans.

-Smak

[Media Moderator]

Inflation was 8.3% one year ago. Today it is 3.2%, which is more than a five percent decrease in 12 months. Biden's Inflation Reduction Act is working

Is this guy really bragging about an 11.5% increase in inflation over 2 years. :biggums:

[Patrick Chewing]

Is this guy really bragging about an 11.5% increase in inflation over 2 years. :biggums:

They'll do anything to twist the numbers to their favor. Since people like him have their parents do the grocery shopping for them, they don't realize that the cost of goods is still at all time highs. He doesn't realize that it's costing his poor mother 3-4 dollars more to buy him his favorite cereal, Cap'n Crunch.

[Media Moderator]

They'll do anything to twist the numbers to their favor. Since people like him have their parents do the grocery shopping for them, they don't realize that the cost of goods is still at all time highs. He doesn't realize that it's costing his poor mother 3-4 dollars more to buy him his favorite cereal, Cap'n Crunch.

I don't even like Trump. I think he's an egotistical blowhard of low moral character, that shares very little in common with the people that blindly worship him. Like all past presidents, he's a narcissistic psychopath. Biden may actually no longer be that way though, he's to old and frail in the head to have any more fire in the belly. He's being manipulated by the powers that be.

https://images3.teeshirtpalace.com/images/productImages/wab6068884-weekend-at-bidens-funny-joe-biden-president-democrat--navy-post-garment.webp

But him and GWB have to be hands down the worst presidents in our lifetimes. I have no doubt that he'll be seen as a massive failure by historians

[John8204]

I am cool w trump and i think its mostly bs what they did / are doing to him, but ill gladly pass on trump if you admit biden beats dubya for the biggest clown and its an all out travesty we got to choose one of these 80 year old dudes. What is wrong with our country?

-Smak

Historically speaking Biden is a top twenty president right now....W destablized an entire global region which led to the deaths of millions and ethnic cleansing by the hands of ISIS. W had two American cities suffer thousands of deaths in New Orleans and New York. W's economic policy led to the collapse of the US housing market that we never recovered from.

Now with Trump...simple moral question...with 30 plus accusers and his taped confession why are you okay with voting for a rapist?

[jstern]

So far Donald Trump is winning 8 to 3.

I'm glad to see that MrFonzworth voted for Trump.

On the Joe Biden side, he has Jasper, who previously voted for Biden because he read a nice speech. And John8204, who listed off mainstream, corporate media narratives to the T. Almost as he was Off the Court or Blade.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Melania is going to charge $130,000 for conjugal visits for Donald.

[Baller234]

Historically speaking Biden is a top twenty president right now....W destablized an entire global region which led to the deaths of millions and ethnic cleansing by the hands of ISIS. W had two American cities suffer thousands of deaths in New Orleans and New York. W's economic policy led to the collapse of the US housing market that we never recovered from.

Now with Trump...simple moral question...with 30 plus accusers and his taped confession why are you okay with voting for a rapist?

Biden was also accused by multiple women yet you conveniently left that part out. Kamala Harris even said she believed the accusers when she was running against him in the primaries.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/437107-harris-i-believe-biden-accusers/

There isn't a single accusation you can lay at Trump that can't be applied to Brandon. You're just a phony and hypocrite who's emotionally invested in hating Orange Face.

[Manny98]

And that's exactly what Liberal governments are doing right now. Imprisoning the opposition, dissenters, etc. [/B] People are getting locked up in the UK just for insulting someone on Twitter. Don't believe me? Look it up. And if anyone out there thinks going after Trump is just a special occasion, then you are a blind fool. If Liberal DA's are successful in going after Trump, nothing will stop them from going after the average citizen. Hell, even what I'm saying here can be construed as illegal speech and I can be arrested and imprisoned for it. This is the Bolshevik Revolution all over again.

So before they go down that road which technically they have already gone down, these Liberals must be destroyed.
Can confirm as I got arrested last year for calling someone a fakkit :oldlol:

Also Trump is a top 5 president of all time

[Hey Yo]

What measurement is that? Stuff like electronics is ok but food prices are nuts. 6 bux for a box of cereal, 6 bux for a gallon of milk. Dats insane. Thats the place inflation is still busting our ass. I havent seen any of those items, including pet food, come down.

Problem is food is actually important, for pets and humans.

-Smak

Yep

Inflation could go to zero tomorrow and prices wouldn't budge one bit.

[Patrick Chewing]

I am cool w trump

-Smak


And Trump is cool with you.


https://media.tenor.com/5h-E8J9rnowAAAAC/donald-trump-dancing.gif

[Patrick Chewing]

Can confirm as I got arrested last year for calling someone a fakkit :oldlol:

Also Trump is a top 5 president of all time

I remember the days where calling someone a f@ggot would generate laughter and cheers by your peers. Now, we're facing jail time. SMH.

[RRR3]

I agree arresting someone for speech is dumb. But I also think it should be legal to sock someone in the jaw if they call you a slur. Seems fair

[rmt]

Yep

Inflation could go to zero tomorrow and prices wouldn't budge one bit.

Prices are baked in. The out of control government spending has diluted what our dollar can buy.

[Jasper]

https://media.tenor.com/5h-E8J9rnowAAAAC/donald-trump-dancing.gif[

When Trump's rally on Jan 6 stated we should hang Pence , I will be right with you when you go to the capital and beat down the doors =

Trump pulled out and had no balls just like his supporters.

WE call that blue balls

[Lakers Legend#32]

And Trump is cool with you.


https://media.tenor.com/5h-E8J9rnowAAAAC/donald-trump-dancing.gif

Could Trump be any whiter?

[Lakers Legend#32]

Melania just found out her prenup is really an IOU.

[Lakers Legend#32]

And Trump is cool with you.


https://media.tenor.com/5h-E8J9rnowAAAAC/donald-trump-dancing.gif

He thought this was his pimp walk, turns out it is his purp walk.

[John8204]

Biden was also accused by multiple women yet you conveniently left that part out. Kamala Harris even said she believed the accusers when she was running against him in the primaries.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/437107-harris-i-believe-biden-accusers/

There isn't a single accusation you can lay at Trump that can't be applied to Brandon. You're just a phony and hypocrite who's emotionally invested in hating Orange Face.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/31/politics/tara-reade-defects-russia-biden-intl/index.html

His accuser ended up being soundly discredited and is now living in Russia....

Trump on the other hand was found guilty in the E Jean Carrol case

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-trial-columnist-carroll-4974ef026f3da61bc6f1b7ddda3ad10e

Biden's other accusers


biden smelled her hair

she claims that Biden touched and rubbed his nose against hers during a political fund-raiser.

Biden rested his hand on her shoulder, and then started to move it down her back

Biden hugged her “just a little bit too long”

Biden squeezed her shoulders, complimented her smile, and held her “for a beat too long.

, Sofie Karasek was photographed holding hands and touching foreheads with Biden at the Oscars,

Biden “put his hand on the back of [her] head and pressed his forehead to [her] forehead”

It's fairly absurd to compare those accusations to Trump's rape

Ivana Trump (1989) - accused him of raping her during a domestic violence incident
Jill Harth (1992) - Trump attempted to grab her female genitals
Jane Doe (1994) - A lawsuit filed in California in April 2016 accused Trump and Epstein of forcibly raping three 12 and 13 year old girls at underage sex parties at Epstein's Manhattan residence in 1994.[38] The case was dismissed the following month. A second version of the lawsuit was filed in New York in June by a Jane Doe claiming to be have been raped by the pair at four 1994 parties when she was 13 years old.[39] It was withdrawn in October as the plaintiff said she had received death threats.[40] [41][42] A July investigation by The Guardian said that the lawsuits appeared to be organized Norm Lubow, "who has been associated in the past with a range of disputed claims involving celebrities including OJ Simpson and Kurt Cobain."[43] Doe said in an interview with The Daily Mail that she along with others were recruited to the sex parties by Epstein's recruiter, who corroborates her story, and that Doe identified Trump from his TV show The Apprentice years after the attacks.[44]
E. Jean Carroll (1996) - rape
Jessica Leeds (1980s) - sexual assault
Kristin Anderson (1990s) - sexual assault

and so on and so on and so on.

[Baller234]

Ah, of course. Biden's accusers were "soundly discredited". Have you seen E Jean Carroll talk for more than 10 seconds? She's batshit insane.

This is beside the point. You are bending over backwards and jumping through hoops of fire to defend the morally bankrupt democrats because you have a hate boner for Trump. Nobody who makes it to that level in the game has clean hands. Biden sold his soul a long time ago and has probably done some of the most disgusting shit you can ever imagine. Look how his family turned out for god sakes.

Say what you will about Trump. He was a bad husband, a womanizer... but on the surface at least he appears to be a great father and his children all look to him and support him.

And guess what, I'm not voting for a pope... I'm voting for president. I'm voting based on policy and agenda, not who I think the best person is. None of these guys are good people.

[John8204]

Biden's accuser was discredited...she made her career perjuring herself as an expert witness and has defected to Russia. That's not bending over backwards...this is an historical fact.

Trump has 12 rape and sexual assault allegations against him...none of them have been discredited. E Jean Carroll won her lawsuit against Trump.

Trump is a womanizer...he cheated on his pregnant wife with a porn star and then paid her hush money and sent goons to threaten her. Biden...hugged a woman for two long. These are not the same things. I was a republican for several years I left the party.

[Baller234]

Biden's accuser was discredited...she made her career perjuring herself as an expert witness and has defected to Russia. That's not bending over backwards...this is an historical fact.

Trump has 12 rape and sexual assault allegations against him...none of them have been discredited. E Jean Carroll won her lawsuit against Trump.

Trump is a womanizer...he cheated on his pregnant wife with a porn star and then paid her hush money and sent goons to threaten her. Biden...hugged a woman for two long. These are not the same things. I was a republican for several years I left the party.

Dude before Evil Orange Face came into the picture, Joe Biden being a creepy groper was common knowledge. Here is Jon Stewart roasting the fu*k out of him.

https://twitter.com/RealTrevorReese/status/1250975624908472320?s=20

Biden also took showers with his daughter and was listed in Hunter's phone as "Pedo Pete".

We can play this game all day.

[RRR3]

Both sides need to admit Biden AND Trump pedophile rapists. Trying to act like one isn’t just makes you look biased. Arguing who’s worse is kind of pointless because they’re both evil and not worth defending. Don’t get me wrong there are worse levels of these crimes but neither Biden or Trump are people worth defending.

[John8204]

Both sides need to admit Biden AND Trump pedophile rapists. Trying to act like one isn’t just makes you look biased. Arguing who’s worse is kind of pointless because they’re both evil and not worth defending. Don’t get me wrong there are worse levels of these crimes but neither Biden or Trump are people worth defending.

One person did something criminal while the other was accused only for the accuser to leave the country. It's like saying this guy jaywalked and this other person had dismembered hooker heads in the trunk of their car.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Say what you will about Trump. He was a bad husband, a womanizer... but on the surface at least he appears to be a great father and his children all look to him and support him.

Must be why none of Trump's kids have shown up to support him at any of his indictment hearings (much less his gold digging wife).

Must be why Trump and none of his family members has staged an intervention when Don Jr. went on his coke induced videos.

Must be why Ivana said Trump never talked to any of his kids until they were in college and then he would only talk business to them.

Must be why Trump does not know who Barron is.

[rmt]

Must be why none of Trump's kids have shown up to support him at any of his indictment hearings (much less his gold digging wife).

Must be why Trump and none of his family members has staged an intervention when Don Jr. went on his coke induced videos.

Must be why Ivana said Trump never talked to any of his kids until they were in college and then he would only talk business to them.

Must be why Trump does not know who Barron is.

Trump might be many things, but it's difficult to knock him on his kids (and I can't think of a greater legacy to have than kids who turn out well) - even Hillary thought so.

Unlike Biden's. Which would you prefer to have?

[Baller234]

One person did something criminal while the other was accused only for the accuser to leave the country. It's like saying this guy jaywalked and this other person had dismembered hooker heads in the trunk of their car.

Joe Biden took showers with his daughter and was listed in his son's phone as Pedo Pete.

Since you keep ignoring this.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Melania trying to confirm that conjugal visits are not mandatory.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump might be many things, but it's difficult to knock him on his kids (and I can't think of a greater legacy to have than kids who turn out well) - even Hillary thought so.

Unlike Biden's. Which would you prefer to have?

No it's very easy to know Trump is a sh1tty father.

When the Nationals went to the World Series, he did not bring Barron.

He brought his henchmen and goons instead.

[rmt]

No it's very easy to know Trump is a sh1tty father.

When the Nationals went to the World Series, he did not bring Barron.

He brought his henchmen and goons instead.

LOL - what weak deflection - maybe Barron doesn't like baseball?

Which would you prefer as your child? Hunter Biden or Ivanka Trump? Trump has had 5 kids who turned out well. Biden, otoh, has not been similarly blessed.

[Lakers Legend#32]

LOL - what weak deflection - maybe Barron doesn't like baseball?

Which would you prefer as your child? Hunter Biden or Ivanka Trump? Trump has had 5 kids who turned out well. Biden, otoh, has not been similarly blessed.

Melania begged Trump for a child and he refused for years.

When he finally agreed, he said he would financially support him but that was it. Don't expect him to raise him.

Neither of them live with him today.

Trump Family Values.

[TeflonDonTrump]

Melania begged Trump for a child and he refused for years.

When he finally agreed, he said he would financially support him but that was it. Don't expect him to raise him.

Neither of them live with him today.

Trump Family Values.

How do you even know this?

[Lakers Legend#32]

How do you even know this?

People close to Melania have detailed this.

[Long Duck Dong]

Melania begged Trump for a child and he refused for years.

When he finally agreed, he said he would financially support him but that was it. Don't expect him to raise him.

Neither of them live with him today.

Trump Family Values.

They were engaged in 2004. Married 8 months later and she was pregnant within 5 months of being married. Yep, she had to beg him for "years"....

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[JohnnySic]

Anyone who would still vote for Biden at this point is incapacitated in some critical way.

[Bill Gates]

Biden is already being ranked much higher than Trump by historians. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_St ates)

Regardless if you love or hate Trump you can't deny that there has not been a modern day POTUS that the population was more divided on that him. In fact for most Americans it is either extreme hatred or extreme love without many who fall in the middle. If Trump did not exist the extreme tribalism we see today would only exist at lower levels and not amongst the majority. Biden is not a great POTUS but he is far less controversial.

[Baller234]

Biden is already being ranked much higher than Trump by historians. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_St ates)

Regardless if you love or hate Trump you can't deny that there has not been a modern day POTUS that the population was more divided on that him. In fact for most Americans it is either extreme hatred or extreme love without many who fall in the middle. If Trump did not exist the extreme tribalism we see today would only exist at lower levels and not amongst the majority. Biden is not a great POTUS but he is far less controversial.

Biden is just as controversial if not more controversial.

Trump may have drawn the lines, but Biden has only affirmed those lines even more. It's not like Biden brought anyone to the middle. The hatred that one side has for Biden is exactly the same as the other side's hatred for Trump.

[rmt]

Biden is already being ranked much higher than Trump by historians. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_St ates)

Regardless if you love or hate Trump you can't deny that there has not been a modern day POTUS that the population was more divided on that him. In fact for most Americans it is either extreme hatred or extreme love without many who fall in the middle. If Trump did not exist the extreme tribalism we see today would only exist at lower levels and not amongst the majority. Biden is not a great POTUS but he is far less controversial.

Is that what you are looking for in a president? Someone who has less controversy surrounding him, someone who doesn't rock the boat?

The reason they hate Trump so is because they can't control what he says or does. He is not of the political ilk and doesn't follow the usual rules. Do you think a normal politician could withstand all these lawyer fees? - a normal person would back down and bow to pressure before bringing all this on himself. That Trump doesn't do this is the reason why they hate him so. And the more they go after him (and people see the unfairness of this political witch hunt), the more his supporters love him.

Trump sometimes goes too far and would be better off zipping his mouth. Hopefully, there are enough in the middle who will vote for his policies (and just put him on mute) - enough of this open border, endless spending, climate craziness, fossil fuel muzzling, political witch hunting, etc. More freedom and educational choice, less taxes, rules and regulations.

This inflation is INTOLERABLE (and I fear, BAKED in) - please I don't want to hear about how it's gone down - I go to the supermarket and gas station. My kids don't have a chance of buying a house if interest rates remain where they are - and Biden wants to continue his out of control spending which will only make inflation worse.

[Bill Gates]

Is that what you are looking for in a president? Someone who has less controversy surrounding him, someone who doesn't rock the boat?
Yes, the country needs a leader that unites us, and does not try to divide us. Granted, Biden has not done great at uniting us. But Trump throws endless fuel to the fire. MAGA snickers and labels it "mean tweets" but the reality is that those mean tweets are extremely harmful and a leader's words mean something.


This inflation is INTOLERABLE (and I fear, BAKED in) - please I don't want to hear about how it's gone down - I go to the supermarket and gas station. My kids don't have a chance of buying a house if interest rates remain where they are - and Biden wants to continue his out of control spending which will only make inflation worse.
The inflation (which has been rapidly reduced) was caused by the CARES Act under Trump. Trump spent more than any other president. Aside from that every country in the world is fighting inflation and Biden has done a better job reducing ours than the majority of the world.

[rmt]

Yes, the country needs a leader that unites us, and does not try to divide us. Granted, Biden has not done great at uniting us. But Trump throws endless fuel to the fire. MAGA snickers and labels it "mean tweets" but the reality is that those mean tweets are extremely harmful and a leader's words mean something.


The inflation (which has been rapidly reduced) was caused by the CARES Act under Trump. Trump spent more than any other president. Aside from that every country in the world is fighting inflation and Biden has done a better job reducing ours than the majority of the world.

LOL - if you think Biden is trying to unite us. They just want POWER. Did Trump go after Hillary for her emails? I'm sure he wanted to - but it didn't happen. Unlike what's happening now with these indictments.

If "mean tweets" bother you so much, put him on mute - that's what I do. Give me Trump's policies any day over what Biden is doing to this country (see my thread on him selling off the wall beams for pennies on the dollar) and letting all these people into the country. Did I mention that Miami Dade County Public Schools (1 county) saw a 14k increase last year over the previous year)? That's what he is doing to our schools and hospitals.

Yes, the CARES act contributed to the inflation - but just like the mask/Fauci/lockdown fiasco, what was Trump to do when the economy had come to a screeching halt. By the time Biden got in, the economy was coming around - the American Rescue Act was unnecessary and exacerbated the inflation.

[Bill Gates]

Did I mention that Miami Dade County Public Schools (1 county) saw a 14k increase last year over the previous year)? That's what he is doing to our schools and hospitals.
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https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?width=880&height=440&id=B03002001E012086

Miami Dade county is seeing population decrease under Biden. And the idea that Trump's wall would prevent immigration in Florida isn't realistic anyway.

[rmt]

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?width=880&height=440&id=B03002001E012086

Miami Dade county is seeing population decrease under Biden. And the idea that Trump's wall would prevent immigration in Florida isn't realistic anyway.

I never said any of (your) above. See below - do you know what kind of stress that puts on a school system (even one as big as ours). Most of them don't speak English - special ESOL classes are necessary.

Francis Suarez
stated on May 21, 2023 in a TV interview:
“Just last year,” Miami-Dade Public Schools “had over 14,000 new children, 10,000 of which came from four countries of Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Haiti.”

Miami mayor is right: Miami-Dade public schools have seen sharp increase in new immigrant students

IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT
This figure matches data shared in January by Miami-Dade’s superintendent.

The number of newly enrolled students from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela for the 2022-23 school year is close to 14,000, nearly double last school year’s number.

In total, about 20,000 new immigrant students have enrolled in Miami-Dade this school year — accounting for close to 70% of all of the county’s new enrollees.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/may/23/francis-suarez/miami-mayor-is-right-miami-dade-public-schools-hav/

[imdaman99]

Was? Biden is still going. BTW I'm paying way more taxes now but I am making more now than I was 5 years ago. The rich don't deserve tax breaks, which I'm not but I'm middle class.