49ers are giving up on Trey Lance. They traded three 1st round picks and a 3rd round

[1987_Lakers]

to select him at #3.

Has an NBA team ever given up so much to draft someone in the top 3 only for that player to be a complete bust?

[highwhey]

the what?

[Kblaze8855]

The Warriors trading Robert Parish and the third pick(Kevin Mchale) for the pick to take Joe Barry Carroll has to be up there even though he was eventually better than his reputation.

[1987_Lakers]

The Warriors trading Robert Parish and the third pick(Kevin Mchale) for the pick to take Joe Barry Carroll has to be up there even though he was eventually better than his reputation.

Yes, Joe Barley Cares was still an All-Star at one point, Trey Lance can't even win a back-up QB role with the 49ers.

I remember when Lance got drafted, apparently they wanted Mac Jones at first, but as time went on they went with Lance because of his upside, despite not playing the 2020 season in college and playing in a really small school.

[Im Still Ballin]

Do they still have Mr. Handsome Jimmy G?

[1987_Lakers]

Do they still have Mr. Handsome Jimmy G?

He's with us now, up until our rookie Aidan O'Connell takes his spot. :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewCnlTHB3Eg

[warriorfan]

tbh it’s good niners aren’t doing sunk cost fallacy

it obviously hurts badly but scoring purdy out of no where somewhat counteracts it

if it wasn’t for purdy it would be ****ed

[Duderonomy]

tbh it’s good niners aren’t doing sunk cost fallacy

it obviously hurts badly but scoring purdy out of no where somewhat counteracts it

if it wasn’t for purdy it would be ****ed
Not that Purdy wasn't good last season but he was so under the radar teams weren't scouting him right and he did have shoulder surgery id say his career could go either way.
Still the 49ers are a win now team and you can't do that with Trey Lance.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Philly traded the third pick and a future first round pick to draft Markelle Fultz #1. That decision has basically decided the Atlantic division for years.

[Wally450]

What did they expect from a guy who didn't even play his final season in college?

He's an okay runner, but a terrible passer at the NFL level. Stop drafting bum ass QBs from 1-AA schools.

[imdaman99]

That's the 49er system for ya, they don't need an elite QB to win. They can plug an average QB in there and win. Maybe purdy improves but he could also have topped out already

[GOBB]

Niners are retards. Trey Wentz


Philly traded the third pick and a future first round pick to draft Markelle Fultz #1. That decision has basically decided the Atlantic division for years.

No it hasn’t.

[tpols]

You would've thought they learned their lesson with Kaepernick. These all running QBs are a gimmick.

[GOBB]

You would've thought they learned their lesson with Kaepernick. These all running QBs are a gimmick.

All running qbs? What does that even mean?

By the way Lamar Jackson a qb known for his running win MVP.

[tpols]

All running qbs? What does that even mean?

By the way Lamar Jackson a qb known for his running win MVP.

That's a tough example for you to use given lamar was known to fall off in the playoffs.

[Wally450]

All running qbs? What does that even mean?

By the way Lamar Jackson a qb known for his running win MVP.

They went 14-2, he won MVP, then he got absolutely shut down by the Titans at home in the divisional round. They made him beat them with his arm and it didn't happen.

That's why people label him a running back playing the QB position. He can't beat you with just his arm.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Niners are retards. Trey Wentz



No it hasn’t.

If Philly drafts Tatum what stops him and Embiid from owning the conference, let alone the division?

[Real Men Wear Green]

You would've thought they learned their lesson with Kaepernick. These all running QBs are a gimmick.

They actually had a lot of success with Kaep, went to the superbowl and also a conference final the year after that. Most QBs don't lead to that much success. His career wasn't ended by a lack of ability it was ended by a controversy. His final season he managed to retake the starting job and played respectably.

[1987_Lakers]

They actually had a lot of success with Kaep, went to the superbowl and also a conference final the year after that.

Defense is the main reason why they had success.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Defense is the main reason why they had success.

Plenty of quarterbacks played with a good or great defense and still got credit. He made a lot of plays both running and passing in the playoff runs and was still good enough to take the starting job in that final year.

[1987_Lakers]

Plenty of quarterbacks played with a good or great defense and still got credit. He made a lot of plays both running and passing in the playoff runs and was still good enough to take the starting job in that final year.

49ers made the NFC championship the year before Kaep took over as a starter. Kaep for sure had his moments when he first took over as a starter, destroyed the Packers in the playoffs, but defenses eventually figured him out.

[GOBB]

They went 14-2, he won MVP, then he got absolutely shut down by the Titans at home in the divisional round. They made him beat them with his arm and it didn't happen.

That's why people label him a running back playing the QB position. He can't beat you with just his arm.

Sb titles have been won without the QB needing to look like Jesus passing the rock. We even had laughable starting Qbs with SB rings. This notion of running qbs is silly.

[Wally450]

Sb titles have been won without the QB needing to look like Jesus passing the rock. We even had laughable starting Qbs with SB rings. This notion of running qbs is silly.

That's the thing, you take away Lamar Jackson's one true game changing dynamic in his run game, and you're left with a very pedestrian QB. Sure those other guys just needed to manage the game and not lose it (ie: Trent Dilfer), but Lamar Jackson is a huge part of Baltimore's success offensively. He can't afford to have his run game taken away and relied upon to beat teams with his arm.

[ShawkFactory]

Sb titles have been won without the QB needing to look like Jesus passing the rock. We even had laughable starting Qbs with SB rings. This notion of running qbs is silly.

Maybe but the last 3 instances I can think of this (15 Broncos, 03 Bucs, 00 Ravens) had historic defenses.

[Patrick Chewing]

Bosa trade rumors heating up. It would probably take multiple firsts for a guy like him.

[Charlie Sheen]

2021 was a bad year to be named Trey and drafted by the 9ers... Sermon was gone after one season :lol

[GOBB]

That's the thing, you take away Lamar Jackson's one true game changing dynamic in his run game, and you're left with a very pedestrian QB. Sure those other guys just needed to manage the game and not lose it (ie: Trent Dilfer), but Lamar Jackson is a huge part of Baltimore's success offensively. He can't afford to have his run game taken away and relied upon to beat teams with his arm.

Tom Brady first SB ring he looked pedestrian as a passer.


Maybe but the last 3 instances I can think of this (15 Broncos, 03 Bucs, 00 Ravens) had historic defenses.

NFL you can win with a QB that is labeled as a runner or even known to run the ball. I don’t feel there is much of a rhyme or reason when it comes to winning a SB. There’s a lot of factors, variables that come into play here. Pat Mahommes won the SB Va a running QB. And that running QB threw for more yards than him. Eagles didn’t lose the SB because Jalen Hurts was a running QB. What about Colin Kaepernick vs Ravens in SB? Sure i mentioned “won” but these SBs weren’t lost because the running qbs couldn’t pass, had passing taken away from them. When I think of why eagles lost the SB or Niners did? It doesn’t start with “hurts/kap gotta improve as passers they relied too much running…”.


And yeah those teams were backed by historic defenses as you mentioned. But that’s just it. If the “running QB” has a defense on the other side? You’ll always have a chance. If anything you need a QB that can lead and not make costly turnovers in critical moments. Who can deliver a big play be it first down, td, or get into FG range to win. Stuff like that matters. It’s why a few of Tom Brady SB rings the passing didn’t stand out. What he did was in the moment drive them into position. So if a “running QB” can do that be it pass (even if he has a horrible, avg game) or rushing. Delivering in that moment would matter more.

Running QB is a tired narrative. Breaking news qbs are really mobile/athletic than the Drew Bledsoe cement feet Qbs. Defenses are much faster and you need to make plays when the pressure is on or there’s nothing open. I’ll be curious to see Lamar this season with Odell.


Not many thought Jalen hurts could take a team to the SB as a QB. He too had the running stigma on him. Coupled with throw power not being elite. He had a lot of knocks as a passer. And yet eagles were in the SB. I don’t wanna hear Hurts is more of a passer than say Lamar Jackson

[warriorfan]

Hurts was playing well but the eagles were pretty loaded.

You can go far and win a super bowl without elite QB play but it’s very difficult. The team has to be super well designed and stacked and then have to catch a lot of breaks. This is somewhat true even if you have an elite QB but not nearly to the level if your QB is average.

The one problem that is undeniable with running qb’s is keeping them healthy. If you have a traditional pocket passing qb it’s already a challenge to keep them healthy deep into the season after 15+ games…. When you have a QB who is playing like a running back…..good luck.

Then when you bring in a backup QB….the entire offense is designed around a specialized running QB so when you try to plug in a replacement it’s going to be a lot worse.