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08-24-2023, 04:22 AM
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/paul-feig-bridget-everett-tribute-lauri-carlton-killed-for-hanging-pride-flag-1234809310/
Surprised this isn't a hot topic on ISH. Mother of 9 murdered in cold blood for having a pride flag in her shop.
Off the Court
08-24-2023, 12:44 PM
Imagine gunning down a mother of 9 over a rainbow flag. This won't be a hot topic in here because the right wing echo chamber crew will ignore it.
The guy didn't even murder a gay person. He murdered a very straight woman with enormous family simply because she supported gay people.
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 12:53 PM
What does this have to do with Right Wing? Eh, clowns?
Long Duck Dong
08-24-2023, 01:19 PM
Shooter was Travis Ikeguchi. A Japanese American. So weird. I haven't met a single unsuccessful Japanese American in my life. Must have been biracial(white, black, latino).
Long Duck Dong
08-24-2023, 01:33 PM
Looks like I was wrong. Maybe he wasn't biracial. Reports are he believed in Japanese superiority but was also a devout a devout Christian. That right there seems to conflict with each other :lol Reports say was also anti-Trump. Very anti-LBGTQ. Made fun of Trump supporters and called Trump the antichrist. Also very anti-cop. Guy was a basket case. Doesn't fit the mold of most extremists.
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 01:45 PM
Where's the connection to Right-Wingers?? As if these fools believe there aren't Leftists who disagree and/or hate the LGBTQ agenda. :oldlol:
LGBTQ Nazis are in for a rude awakening as this country gets more and more diverse and takes in people from countries that are Ultra-Conservative and don't promote homosexuality and overall sexual weirdness as much as this country does. I dare any LGBTQ Nazi to go to small majority-Muslim towns in Michigan or elsewhere and promote their nonsense there.
Off the Court
08-24-2023, 01:53 PM
LGBTQ Nazis are in for a rude awakening as this country gets more and more diverse and takes in people from countries that are Ultra-Conservative and don't promote homosexuality and overall sexual weirdness as much as this country does. I dare any LGBTQ Nazi to go to small majority-Muslim towns in Michigan or elsewhere and promote their nonsense there.
Would they be murdered by conservatives?
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 02:20 PM
Would they be murdered by conservatives?
What makes you think LGBTQ people would be murdered? Is that the norm nowadays? Do you have statistical data that if an LGBTQ person gets murdered, that it was a Conservative that murdered them? And why is murder associated with Right-Wingers? Is there statistical data that shows that most murders are committed by Right-Wingers??
All very good questions, Max. But let me not interrupt your narrative.
Off the Court
08-24-2023, 02:27 PM
What makes you think LGBTQ people would be murdered? Is that the norm nowadays? Do you have statistical data that if an LGBTQ person gets murdered, that it was a Conservative that murdered them? And why is murder associated with Right-Wingers? Is there statistical data that shows that most murders are committed by Right-Wingers??
All very good questions, Max. But let me not interrupt your narrative.
You were daring LGBTs to go into small towns so I was asking what would happen, but why do I feel like you aren't even aware that this is a thread about an LGBTQ supporting mother being murdered? :facepalm
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 02:38 PM
You were daring LGBTs to go into small towns so I was asking what would happen, but why do I feel like you aren't even aware that this is a thread about an LGBTQ supporting mother being murdered? :facepalm
In case you weren't aware, the LGBTQ Nazis tend to shame and shut down anyone that doesn't agree with their agenda. If you think there are only two genders, you're a Transphobe. If you don't agree with homosexuality in general, you're a homophobe. If you think children shouldn't be shown sexually explicit images in school books that primarily come from queer or gay-themed books, you're also against the LGBTQ community.
Since the United States is still majority White and White Christian, White Christians are pacifists. You can do and say anything you want to a White Christian in this country and they'll probably just bend the knee. However, the migrants that come into this country are not used to such pacifism and cuckery displayed by White America. So they will not tolerate the LGBTQ community bullying them into submission. This was shown already at certain school board meetings in predominantly Muslim districts where parents came and in full force to show their displeasure with certain curriculums and books that were being exposed to their children.
So yes, I dare LGBTQ Nazis to promote their radical agenda in these communities because they will get stopped the moment they take the first step into these communities. It doesn't mean murder you buffoon. It means that these immigrant communities aren't weak cowards like the rest of White America. White America cannot even determine what a woman is anymore and just watches as women lose their status to biological men who pretend to be women. This only stands in this country. It wouldn't stand anywhere else with the exception of a few cucked European countries probably.
But the other point, and the question I asked you is why did you and the OP make the connection to Right-Wingers? Where is the evidence that this crime was committed by a Right-Winger? Why is it assumed that Right-Wingers would resort to violence against the LGBTQ community? Where has it happened before? Just because LGBTQ people get bullied or murdered (which is probably a miniscule statistic anyway), where does it show that violence against LGBTQ people is a thing within the Right-Wing community?
Off the Court
08-24-2023, 02:45 PM
Has a rainbow flag waving LGBT nazi ever approached you in real life and called you a transphobe or anything else? In any city, big or small? 99.99% of any of that is limited to social media.
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 02:57 PM
Has a rainbow flag waving LGBT nazi ever approached you in real life and called you a transphobe or anything else? In any city, big or small? 99.99% of any of that is limited to social media.
Has a Conservative ever walked up to you and threatened to cancel you or murder you because you were Liberal? Or because you support the LGBTQ agenda? Or let's go broader, was there a social media company out there that was discovered to have censored Conservative voices and opinions because of their political affiliations? Can you recall the last Liberal speaker who was prevented from speaking at a public college or university??
The difference is, these LGBTQ Nazis do exist, and they're backed by straight White Liberals. And if an LGBTQ Nazi isn't coming up to me calling me a Transphobe, then it's a White Liberal who is. The crazy White Militia MAGA Conservative Nationalist Terrorist is more of a boogeyman than a factual person out there causing havoc and confronting people.
Off the Court
08-24-2023, 02:59 PM
Has a Conservative ever walked up to you and threatened to cancel you or murder you because you were Liberal? Or because you support the LGBTQ agenda? Or let's go broader, was there a social media company out there that was discovered to have censored Conservative voices and opinions because of their political affiliations? Can you recall the last Liberal speaker who was prevented from speaking at a public college or university??
The difference is, these LGBTQ Nazis do exist, and they're backed by straight White Liberals. And if an LGBTQ Nazi isn't coming up to me calling me a Transphobe, then it's a White Liberal who is. The crazy White Militia MAGA Conservative Nationalist Terrorist is more of a boogeyman than a factual person out there causing havoc and confronting people.
Do you support or condemn what happened to this mother?
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 03:01 PM
Do you support or condemn what happened to this mother?
No I do not condone this, duh. Do you?
Who would condone this? Show me those individuals if you think they exist.
Baller234
08-24-2023, 03:47 PM
Imagine gunning down a mother of 9 over a rainbow flag. This won't be a hot topic in here because the right wing echo chamber crew will ignore it.
The guy didn't even murder a gay person. He murdered a very straight woman with enormous family simply because she supported gay people.
It's not a "hot topic" because there's nothing more to add. It's a sad and tragic story and that's pretty much all you can say.
It's like you want right wingers to "own" the actions of this murderer and take responsibility, as if they are to blame.
The blame ends with this lunatic.
edit: I also have to contest your point at the end about her being killed for "supporting gay people". The pride flag is no longer associated with just gay people anymore. It's attached to a hodgepodge of hot button issues. That needs clarifying. Not condoning what this psycho did, but perhaps he hated trans people.
MrFonzworth
08-24-2023, 04:14 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna101243
More recently, the account retweeted several posts with anti-LGBTQ sentiments from right-wing provocateur Matt Walsh, who has over 2.4 million followers on X, and far-right cable news channel One America News Network, also known as OAN.
You can't make this up:facepalm
a user appearing to be Ikeguchi described himself as “Anti-zionism, Anti-jesuits, and Anti-paganism” in his bio, adding “same-sex marriage should be abolished.”
Sounds like the average Daily Wire host:facepalm
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 04:21 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna101243
You can't make this up:facepalm
Sounds like the average Daily Wire host:facepalm
What's "anti-LGBTQ sentiment"?? That Matt Walsh asked a bunch of people to define what a woman is and no one could answer so he made a movie that embarrasses all these people? If Straight Conservatives believe in two genders only, and you attack Conservatives for that viewpoint, doesn't that then make you anti-Conservative? We can then accuse you of having anti-Conservative sentiment and call you all sorts of bigots and "phobes".
MrFonzworth
08-24-2023, 04:30 PM
What's "anti-LGBTQ sentiment"?? That Matt Walsh asked a bunch of people to define what a woman is and no one could answer so he made a movie that embarrasses all these people? If Straight Conservatives believe in two genders only, and you attack Conservatives for that viewpoint, doesn't that then make you anti-Conservative? We can then accuse you of having anti-Conservative sentiment and call you all sorts of bigots and "phobes".
Since you seem very interested, the article referenced tweets where the suspect retweeted Matt Walsh tweets where he was dead naming transwomen.
His X account wasn't taken down until days after the shooting
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 04:36 PM
Since you seem very interested, the article referenced tweets where the suspect retweeted Matt Walsh tweets where he was dead naming transwomen.
His X account wasn't taken down until days after the shooting
Uhhh what?? :oldlol:
And what does that have to do with Right-Wingers?
MrFonzworth
08-24-2023, 04:43 PM
Uhhh what?? :oldlol:
And what does that have to do with Right-Wingers?
Are you okay?
Are you okay?
His cardiologist sure doesn’t think so.
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 04:49 PM
Are you okay?
Yes, why do you ask? Are you? Are you handling this situation?
Is this the moment where you want to resort to personal attacks because you've met some resistance and then go on for 5 pages??
Long Duck Dong
08-24-2023, 04:54 PM
What a weirdo
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4GF-jUbkAAFx7I?format=jpg
https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/trumpikeguchi.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4OOQVFXQAAYm6m?format=webp&name=900x900
But if he's a Christian.....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4GVlbbXEAACMhp?format=webp&name=small
MrFonzworth
08-24-2023, 04:56 PM
Yes, why do you ask? Are you? Are you handling this situation?
Is this the moment where you want to resort to personal attacks because you've met some resistance and then go on for 5 pages??
Asking because you asked me a question, I gave you an answer, and you seemed to had no idea what the answer was in reference to. Not a good look gish galloping (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop) if you can't keep up with the questions you ask.
This guy thought Trump was too left wing jeez. Definitely one of those Desantis types.
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 04:58 PM
Asking because you asked me a question, I gave you an answer, and you seemed to had no idea what the answer was in reference to. Not a good look gish galloping (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop) if you can't keep up with the questions you ask.
No, if you would open your eyes, you would see that I highlighted a portion of what you wrote.
The average American doesn't speak Woke nonsense and says things such "dead naming". :roll:
So my reply to you was actually mocking that ridiculous term.
Long Duck Dong
08-24-2023, 05:01 PM
This guy thought Trump was too left wing jeez. Definitely one of those Desantis types.
I don't think he likes white people
MrFonzworth
08-24-2023, 05:02 PM
No, if you would open your eyes, you would see that I highlighted a portion of what you wrote.
The average American doesn't speak Woke nonsense and says things such "dead naming". :roll:
So my reply to you was actually mocking that ridiculous term.
Wait, so you ask me for a specific example of anti lgbtq behavior, I give you an example, and you immediately want to pivot to a different discussion rather than address the one you asked for. Is there a topic you aren't completely clueless on? Genuinely curious.
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 05:05 PM
Wait, so you ask me for a specific example of anti lgbtq behavior, I give you an example, and you immediately want to pivot to a different discussion rather than address the one you asked for. Is there a topic you aren't completely clueless on? Genuinely curious.
You can't just make things up to suit your narrative.
"Dead naming" or whatever the **** that is, is not anti-LGBTQ behavior. This is why it's so easy to mock you psychos. You make up words and terms and genders and when people don't follow along, you accuse them of being anti-something. You people are nuts. :oldlol:
MrFonzworth
08-24-2023, 05:10 PM
"Dead naming" or whatever the **** that is, is not anti-LGBTQ behavior. l
Wrong. Do you know what the T in LGBTQ is?
Fatrick logs on every day just to get destroyed :lol
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 05:49 PM
Wrong. Do you know what the T in LGBTQ is?
I'm not wrong. You're making things up to be offended by. Tomorrow you'll make up some more stuff and you'll do the same the day after that.
This is exactly what I was telling Off the Court on page 1. That the LGBTQ Nazis just want to publicly attack you and shame you because you don't parrot the same delusion. What people like Fonzworth believe, is that if I don't believe what they believe, then I'm the one that's wrong and I'm the one who's the aggressor and that I should be criticized. Hence, Nazi-like behavior.
Dead-naming is some made up nonsense for LGBTQ people to be offended by.
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 05:50 PM
Fatrick logs on every day just to get destroyed :lol
You don't even have to log on every day to get destroyed. :oldlol:
I'm not wrong. You're making things up to be offended by. Tomorrow you'll make up some more stuff and you'll do the same the day after that.
This is exactly what I was telling Off the Court on page 1. That the LGBTQ Nazis just want to publicly attack you and shame you because you don't parrot the same delusion. What people like Fonzworth believe, is that if I don't believe what they believe, then I'm the one that's wrong and I'm the one who's the aggressor and that I should be criticized. Hence, Nazi-like behavior.
Dead-naming is some made up nonsense for LGBTQ people to be offended by.
Not really. If you were born Jason and changed your name to Tom, you’d probably be mad if people wouldn’t call you Tom. Same concept for deadnaming. Even if you don’t believe trans people exist surely you can see it’s polite to call people by their names.
MrFonzworth
08-24-2023, 06:04 PM
I'm not wrong. You're making things up to be offended by. Tomorrow you'll make up some more stuff and you'll do the same the day after that.
This is exactly what I was telling Off the Court on page 1. That the LGBTQ Nazis just want to publicly attack you and shame you because you don't parrot the same delusion. What people like Fonzworth believe, is that if I don't believe what they believe, then I'm the one that's wrong and I'm the one who's the aggressor and that I should be criticized. Hence, Nazi-like behavior.
Dead-naming is some made up nonsense for LGBTQ people to be offended by.
Wow, didn't think this question would stump you so bad, but feel free to Google it. Do you know what the T in LGBTQ stands for?
Fatrick logs on every day just to get destroyed :lol
You wake up every day just to get destroyed. Existence is pain.
Why don't you drink a cup of whatever you use to clean the library floors and take a long nice nap.
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 06:29 PM
Not really. If you were born Jason and changed your name to Tom, you’d probably be mad if people wouldn’t call you Tom. Same concept for deadnaming. Even if you don’t believe trans people exist surely you can see it’s polite to call people by their names.
Ahh so it has nothing to do with the LGBTQ community then. Cause calling someone by a different name isn't exclusive to LGBTQ people as you referenced by your Jason and Tom example. So thank you for agreeing with me that this has nothing to do with LGBTQ hate or whatever.
And there is a difference between changing your name legally, and your friend Bob waking up one day and deciding to be called Clarissa instead.
Ahh so it has nothing to do with the LGBTQ community then. Cause calling someone by a different name isn't exclusive to LGBTQ people as you referenced by your Jason and Tom example. So thank you for agreeing with me that this has nothing to do with LGBTQ hate or whatever.
And there is a difference between changing your name legally, and your friend Bob waking up one day and deciding to be called Clarissa instead.
Why does someone have to legally change their name for you to call them what they want? :facepalm Are you not aware legally changing your name costs mone
MrFonzworth
08-24-2023, 06:46 PM
Ahh so it has nothing to do with the LGBTQ community then.
Reading comprehension needs some work:lol
In what world does providing a valid contexualized hypothetical invalidate the point you make?:yaohappy:
Also why are you ducking my question? What does the T in LGBTQ stand for?:lol
Patrick Chewing
08-24-2023, 10:29 PM
Why does someone have to legally change their name for you to call them what they want? :facepalm Are you not aware legally changing your name costs mone
Because the whole thing is ****ing stupid that's why. You people are normalizing weird. That's all it is. You have found an avenue to not only be protected by White Liberal America by demonizing anyone that calls you out on it, but you have found an avenue to spread your weirdness through social media as well.
In your twisted worlds, there is no more weird. Weird is considered acceptable. And I'm just here to tell you, weird has never worked. It may have some breathing room here in cucked America and Europe, but eventually the tides will turn and this whole Trans garbage and pretending to be something you're not will be ridiculed as it should be and the trend will die out.
hateraid
08-25-2023, 02:06 PM
What does this have to do with Right Wing? Eh, clowns?
My thoughts exactly. Left wing nut jobs should be exploiting it
warriorfan
08-25-2023, 03:39 PM
You wake up every day just to get destroyed. Existence is pain.
Why don't you drink a cup of whatever you use to clean the library floors and take a long nice nap.
:roll:
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