Sometimes i pinch myself upon waking to remind myself the Suns have Book,KD,Beal

[highwhey]

AND AYTON...wow (future voice). :applause:

[Kblaze8855]

Just set a reminder alarm in your phone next to the one that tells you when it’s time to take your lisinopril and various other blood pressure medications. Consistency is the key. Hypertension eliminates more people than Jokic.

[highwhey]

Just set a reminder alarm in your phone next to the one that tells you when it’s time to take your lisinopril and various other blood pressure medications. Consistency is the key. Hypertension eliminates more people than Jokic.

**** you homie. i take propanolol, and it's not for hypertension, it actually slows down you heart rate and is prescribed to me as an anxiety medicatiton...non habit forming like a benzo butt almostt just as effective.

[Kblaze8855]

Damn. I just took a shot. My back up medication was going to be Spiranolactone. You just look like your blood pressure bottoms out at “high normal” after a good period of rest but you walk around ready to pop from the stress of the day.

[highwhey]

Damn. I just took a shot. My back up medication was going to be Spiranolactone. You just look like your blood pressure bottoms out at “high normal” after a good period of rest but you walk around ready to pop from the stress of the day.

yes, well i'm an alcoholic. i don't need coffee, my anxiety keeps me plenty awake.

[warriorfan]

Just set a reminder alarm in your phone next to the one that tells you when it’s time to take your lisinopril and various other blood pressure medications. Consistency is the key. Hypertension eliminates more people than Jokic.

lmaoo :roll: :roll:

insulin too

[k0kakw0rld]

There was once KD Harden and Kyrie on the same team. Not even a conference final. You can't just plug people together and expect miracles. That's not how it works.

[SouBeachTalents]

There was once KD Harden and Kyrie on the same team. Not even a conference final. You can't just plug people together and expect miracles. That's not how it works.
And that Big 3 was definitely better than this one.

[highwhey]

And that Big 3 was definitely better than this one.

oh stfu unless u finna step outside and trade hands bitch

[Spurs m8]

Just set a reminder alarm in your phone next to the one that tells you when it’s time to take your lisinopril and various other blood pressure medications. Consistency is the key. Hypertension eliminates more people than Jokic.

Fvcking hell :roll:

Just when ops life couldn't get any worse

[Jasper]

should see semi -finals

[highwhey]

should see semi -finals

shut up old man

[Norcaliblunt]

These Suns teams have been weird because everybody hates KD, Booker, and Paul. No one outside of Suns fans have anything good to say about them, and sure as hell aren’t rooting for them to win.

But in the past Phoenix always seemed to have fan favorites who kinda transcended the sport or at least the Suns organization.

Barkley, Nash, KJ, Dan Marjerle, Jason Kidd, Amare, etc. were all loved outside of Phoenix to a certain extant. People who aren’t Suns fans would root for these guys.

But now? No love. Lol.

[highwhey]

These Suns teams have been weird because everybody hates KD, Booker, and Paul. No one outside of Suns fans have anything good to say about them, and sure as hell aren’t rooting for them to win.

But in the past Phoenix always seemed to have fan favorites who kinda transcended the sport or at least the Suns organization.

Barkley, Nash, KJ, Dan Marjerle, Jason Kidd, Amare, etc. were all loved outside of Phoenix to a certain extant. People who aren’t Suns fans would root for these guys.

But now? No love. Lol.

and thats weird isn't it? Book has never been a douche, a lot of players actually talk highly of him...whole reason CP3 and KD came to phoenix is because of Booker. they went from being seen as a lottery team to being hated overnight bc of their bubble/finals run. There was no in between.

[Norcaliblunt]

and thats weird isn't it? Book has never been a douche, a lot of players actually talk highly of him...whole reason CP3 and KD came to phoenix is because of Booker. they went from being seen as a lottery team to being hated overnight bc of their bubble/finals run. There was no in between.

Them being villains and everyone wanting them to lose is like some uncharted territory for Suns fans. Of course not everyone was rooting for Nash but you best believe there were a grip of white boys outside Phoenix who weren’t even that into basketball who were watching and rooting for Nash. Same with Barkley. He had a cult following all the way back in the 90’s. Everybody loved dude. You tell people you are a Suns fan and someone will bring up how much they liked Barkley or Nash.

Idk Booker might be a race thing. Whatever it is fools don’t like him.

[FultzNationRISE]

Them being villains and everyone wanting them to lose is like some uncharted territory for Suns fans. Of course not everyone was rooting for Nash but you best believe there were a grip of white boys outside Phoenix who weren’t even that into basketball who were watching and rooting for Nash. Same with Barkley. He had a cult following all the way back in the 90’s. Everybody loved dude. You tell people you are a Suns fan and someone will bring up how much they liked Barkley or Nash.

Idk Booker might be a race thing. Whatever it is fools don’t like him.


Lmao, I guarantee Steve Nash was not on “white america’s” radar outside of basketball fans. Youre just talking randomly out your ass.

[Norcaliblunt]

Lmao, I guarantee Steve Nash was not on “white america’s” radar outside of basketball fans. Youre just talking randomly out your ass.

Naw he was for sure. If you’re a Suns fan you knew just by talking to random white Americans. If basketball or the Phoenix Suns got brought up they all say the same thing. “I don’t watch much basketball but I liked that Steve Nash guy.” Pretty common back then actually and even today. I remember watching those Nash teams at bars in LA and Los Angelas white boys who didn’t follow basketball were paying attention.

Plus he was referenced in that pop song by Nelly Furtado. White little pop chicks were rocking with Nash for a second.

He definitely transcended basketball a little bit.

[SaltyMeatballs]

Suns coming for that 2024 championship :dancin:banana:

[highwhey]

Suns coming for that 2024 championship :dancin:banana:

the city needs a ship badly


and my body needs a championship cerebration parade downtown when it's 115 degrees outside

[SouBeachTalents]

the city needs a ship badly


and my body needs a championship cerebration parade downtown when it's 115 degrees outside
Y'all just won a championship 22 years ago.

[highwhey]

Y'all just won a championship 22 years ago.

ummm thats a cute title, but baseball not my favorite sportt

[warriorfan]

ummm thats a cute title, but baseball not my favorite sportt

Yes, we all know competitive eating is your specialty.

[Kblaze8855]

Nah. The top competitive eaters are slim like Joey Chestnut and that Japanese guy. The memory foam like layer of insulating blubber he likely carries about despite his warm habitat like a ****ing Hawaiian monk seal would limit his stomachs ability to expand quickly. This is probably a bowling mother****er here. Don’t even need to wipe the grease off your hands to bowl. Probably just adds to the lubrication of the lane. Perfect sport for the less mobile among us.

[highwhey]

Nah. The top competitive eaters are slim like Joey Chestnut and that Japanese guy. The memory foam like layer of insulating blubber he likely carries about despite his warm habitat like a ****ing Hawaiian monk seal would limit his stomachs ability to expand quickly. This is probably a bowling mother****er here. Don’t even need to wipe the grease off your hands to bowl. Probably just adds to the lubrication of the lane. Perfect sport for the less mobile among us.

you say this comfortably on a keyboard, say it in person though dawg. i dare you. see how quick i drop your ass. fvcking n1gger.

[90sgoat]

For me, it was seeing Doncic completely destroy Booker, humiliate him.

Booker aint that guy.

[RRR3]

Nah. The top competitive eaters are slim like Joey Chestnut and that Japanese guy. The memory foam like layer of insulating blubber he likely carries about despite his warm habitat like a ****ing Hawaiian monk seal would limit his stomachs ability to expand quickly. This is probably a bowling mother****er here. Don’t even need to wipe the grease off your hands to bowl. Probably just adds to the lubrication of the lane. Perfect sport for the less mobile among us.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Kblaze8855]

you say this comfortably on a keyboard, say it in person though dawg. i dare you. see how quick i drop your ass. fvcking n1gger.


I suppose it’s possible. Phoenix is very flat city I’ve read so I’d lack any gently rising hills to clown you from the top of and watch you give out of breath as you climb it to confront me while I casually back further out of reach till your labored breathing and accumulation of under boob sweat let me know the time was right to strike. Anakin Skywalker couldn’t even overcome the high ground and you sir…are no Anakin Skywalker.

On ground of your choosing with no natural barriers you might prove quicker in a straight line than like to think like a hippo. I have a healthy respect for nature so I’d be disarmingly charming in person. I’m actually very approachable.

[highwhey]

hills, labored breathing, hypertension, blah blah


you're still a bitch

[Kblaze8855]

https://s.imgfi.com/images/IMG_6051.gif



Ok fine. I see your threat display. Very effective. I’m backing off before you charge. I’ll check back during the season.

[Wardell Curry]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGTXU_G5SVOKF7QLcGk1WVTKfaw4U2Y ZgYMQ&usqp=CAU

[Norcaliblunt]

Come on fellas let’s talk about the Suns.

[highwhey]

i didn't know i lived rent free in this dude's head. sound like he's been harboring these feelings for a while now bc it just came out of the blue

[Kblaze8855]

Come on fellas let’s talk about the Suns.


i’ve been burned too many times in the super team era to even try to guess how this fits together. If they won 68 games and the championship, I would be no more surprised than if they win 51 games and get knocked out in the first round.

[highwhey]

lets get in the ring old man. i'll make it easy for you, gloves, rules whatever u want as long as we trade blows. bring your bitch so i can dick her down after i work you.

[Wardell Curry]

i’ve been burned too many times in the super team era to even try to guess how this fits together. If they won 68 games and the championship, I would be no more surprised than if they win 51 games and get knocked out in the first round.

Truth

[Kblaze8855]

lets get in the ring old man. i'll make it easy for you, gloves, rules whatever u want as long as we trade blows. bring your bitch so i can dick her down after i work you.


So who is actually starting at the point and being in the 1 spot for sets for the suns on day one?

Is it Beal? Booker? You’re just giving the ball to someone who can dribble it?

[warriorfan]

So who is actually starting at the point and being in the 1 spot for sets for the suns on day one?

Is it Beal? Booker? You’re just giving the ball to someone who can dribble it?

Op is still too hungover to copy paste stuff from reddit atm

[Kblaze8855]

Isn’t Vogel a coach like Thibs who doesn’t even bother much with offense? Is the plan to make them a great defensive team and let the sheer talent of the offence figure that side out? I barely mentioned the suns this off-season, because I just don’t know what to make of them. They’re like the ultimate version of the modern strategy of just stacking people with name recognition on one team and hoping it works out quickly before they get too expensive.

Didnt work for the Nets but maybe it would have if they were healthy.

I don’t even know how to form an opinion till I see them put it together on the floor. It’s almost like when the Mavs had Dirk, Nash, Jamison, Walker, and Josh Howard. Feeeeeels like it should be good but has so much train wreck potential because you don’t know how the puzzle fits together.

[highwhey]

So who is actually starting at the point and being in the 1 spot for sets for the suns on day one?

Is it Beal? Booker? You’re just giving the ball to someone who can dribble it?

did you watch any of their games last season? booker can bring it up. coach already said it would be a committee type deal where beal and book take turns. its insignificant. this isn't the early 2000s

[highwhey]

Isn’t Vogel a coach like Thibs who doesn’t even bother much with offense? Is the plan to make them a great defensive team and let the sheer talent of the old fence figure that side out? I barely mentioned the suns this off-season, because I just don’t know what to make of them. They’re like the ultimate version of the modern strategy of just stacking people with name recognition on one team and hoping it works out quickly before they get too expensive.

Didnt work for the Nets but maybe it would have if they were healthy.

I don’t even know how to form an opinion till I see them put it together on the floor. It’s almost like when the Mavs had Dirk, Nash, Jamison, Walker, and Josh Howard. Feeeeeels like it should be good but has so much train wreck potential because you don’t know how the puzzle fits together.

they literally have the highest paid assistant coach in the league, and that's by design. he was interviewed for the head coach vacancy but settled on taking a ridiculous salary to stay with the team. CP3 said he's an offensive guru.

[highwhey]

whats to figure out on offense? any one of the 3 drives, passes to open man after the defense collapses rinse and repeat.

[Kblaze8855]

I was actually about to check to see who their assistants were. Figured it might be a situation like Rivers or Byron Scott would build, where he’s technically the coach but someone else runs the offense or defense. Thibs and Eddie Jordan made their names that way.

and yes, I’ve seen all the relevant players play over the years and recently, and don’t question anybody’s ability to bring the ball up but that isn’t always enough. It just depends on the offense. There are teams that don’t need a point guard in the traditional sense and teams that need that coach extension on the floor.

Someone might be taken out of their comfort zone. Or maybe they score 126 a game.

I don’t believe anything strongly enough to even make a prediction. I just know I take two games off the total for Ayton flat ironing a porn stars hair on Instagram.

[Charlie Sheen]

So who is actually starting at the point and being in the 1 spot for sets for the suns on day one?

Is it Beal? Booker? YouÂ’re just giving the ball to someone who can dribble it?

Does it make any difference? Beal is not making any passes that Book is not capable of and the reverse is true. The shump video you posted was a cool story but that's what makes Lebron so damn special... he unlocks more options in an offensive set than anyone else. And that really showed up in the WCF last year... Malone was scheming that same thing Shump talks about the very beginning of that video cheating off the weak side. As good of a series as Book had he struggled with that pass.

[Kblaze8855]

Between the two of them I’m not sure it does matter, but ideally, I’m not sure it would be either one. Steph Curry is one of the five or six best ball handlers of all time, but that doesn’t mean he needs to have the ball. Like I’ve been saying, it just depends on how you want to play. it looks like they won’t have much choice but to be a bit of a your turn….now my turn…now his turn offense where everyone is also looking out the side of the eye for Ayton to come open around the basket.

that kind of thing doesn’t always work immediately. LeBron, wade and Bosh all know the game and it still didn’t work immediately. What’s the timeline before this team cost 500 million total with the tax?

if they don’t win this year, do they blow it up if it’s not looking great next deadline?

[highwhey]

Between the two of them I’m not sure it does matter, but ideally, I’m not sure it would be either one. Steph Curry is one of the five or six best ball handlers of all time, but that doesn’t mean he needs to have the ball. Like I’ve been saying, it just depends on how you want to play. it looks like they won’t have much choice but to be a bit of a your turn….now my turn…now his turn offense where everyone is also looking out the side of the eye for Ayton to come open around the basket.

that kind of thing doesn’t always work immediately. LeBron, wade and Bosh all know the game and it still didn’t work immediately. What’s the timeline before this team cost 500 million total with the tax?

if they don’t win this year, do they blow it up if it’s not looking great next deadline?

kd and book worked great for the short run they had...they were lacking personnel. this team is just an extension of that core with better depth and a coach that doesn't hate ayton.

[highwhey]

but yes, i acknowledge there is great potential for a catastrophic finale. anytime you assemble something of this magnitude where the majority of the talent concentration is distributed between 3 players, the result is a risky ride. if they don't win, it will be all for nothing and i have no clue how you clean up that sort of shitshow when you don't have 1st round picks.

[Kblaze8855]

That part, I don’t think will be an issue. Ayton is on what’s going to look like a very small contract in the coming years and given enough touches? He will be productive enough so you can flip a home to a bad or middling team that wants to go up a level, and there will always be a star ****er franchise like the Knicks perpetually under the belief they are a piece away who will trade picks for a name like Kevin Durant they can’t ever get to sign there even in a year or two.

unless you win the next two titles, this team has to get broken up in year three or one year of them will cost what an NBA team would have cost eight or nine years ago. Even the best owner won’t spend 500 million for West finals run will he?

[highwhey]

That part, I don’t think will be an issue. Ayton is on what’s going to look like a very small contract in the coming years and given enough touches? He will be productive enough so you can flip a home to a bad or middling team that wants to go up a level, and there will always be a star ****er franchise like the Knicks perpetually under the belief they are a piece away who will trade picks for a name like Kevin Durant they can’t ever get to sign there even in a year or two.

unless you win the next two titles, this team has to get broken up in year three or one year of them will cost what an NBA team would have cost eight or nine years ago. Even the best owner won’t spend 500 million for West finals run will he?

one title is enough. you win one, i will talk so much shit i will become the biggest pain in the ass this forum has ever and will ever encounter. you will wish i didn't exist.

[Norcaliblunt]

The roles players they brought in I have no clue about other than Gordon.

The health of KD is super up in the air.

And the whole point I was making about them being drastically unliked. How is that gonna play out with fans, media, stress, the city of Phoenix yada yada yada.

The on court X’s and O’s will just be whatever. You not really gonna be able to tell until the playoffs.

[tpols]

one title is enough. you win one, i will talk so much shit i will become the biggest pain in the ass this forum has ever and will ever encounter. you will wish i didn't exist.

Yall should've won in 2021 if not for Chris Paul shitting the bed in that game 4.

[highwhey]

The roles players they brought in I have no clue about other than Gordon.

The health of KD is super up in the air.

And the whole point I was making about them being drastically unliked. How is that gonna play out with fans, media, stress, the city of Phoenix yada yada yada.

The on court X’s and O’s will just be whatever. You not really gonna be able to tell until the playoffs.

tthis is pretty on point. but yes, the city is the 5th largest metro area in the country...a lot of people don'tt realize how massive Phoenix is. we're very spread out. hell, i'm working on a microsoft data center at the moment. there's entire suburbs tthe size of a standard small US city being constructed this very moment in every which way. i drive outt to some of these places and am amazed how i had no fukking clue this ws being builtt. got a new maid and my t on the keyboard been sticking since...think she used watter.

[highwhey]

Yall should've won in 2021 if not for Chris Paul shitting the bed in that game 4.

we don't acknowledge 2021 when giannis embarrased the city and ttook our soul from us.

[Kblaze8855]

Is Phoenix hated? I’d say Kevin Durant is disliked by a lot of fans, but he’s also a huge number of peoples favorite player. I’m not sure if I’ve ever heard anybody on the suns be hated on in person other than KD. And the city itself I wouldn’t call hated. What are you all dealing with to come away with the impression you are a hated franchise?

[highwhey]

Is Phoenix hated? I’d say Kevin Durant is disliked by a lot of fans, but he’s also a huge number of peoples favorite player. I’m not sure if I’ve ever heard anybody on the suns be hated on in person other than KD. And the city itself I wouldn’t call hated. What are you all dealing with to come away with the impression you are a hated franchise?

reddit

[Norcaliblunt]

Is Phoenix hated? I’d say Kevin Durant is disliked by a lot of fans, but he’s also a huge number of peoples favorite player. I’m not sure if I’ve ever heard anybody on the suns be hated on in person other than KD. And the city itself I wouldn’t call hated. What are you all dealing with to come away with the impression you are a hated franchise?

I’m talking this team and the Paul teams when compared to other memorable Suns teams. It’s obvious people were and are strongly rooting against KD and Paul. Which is a lot different than the Barkley or Nash eras. Casuals loved those dudes.

I’m saying the Suns were always a pretty neutral franchise outside of Lakers fans but once Paul and KD came along there has been a little more venom directed towards them.

[3ba11]

title is guaranteed.. it's a stone cold, lead pipe, lock

it will be #3 for KD..

given his superior scoring ability, brand of ball, team ceilings/Finals records, and also outplaying in H2H matchups, and also carrying Westbrook to Finals while Lebron missed play-in with Westbrook & AD - these factors will put KD above Lebron in my rankings after the 2024 Finals.

[Charlie Sheen]

That part, I don’t think will be an issue. Ayton is on what’s going to look like a very small contract in the coming years and given enough touches? He will be productive enough so you can flip a home to a bad or middling team that wants to go up a level, and there will always be a star ****er franchise like the Knicks perpetually under the belief they are a piece away who will trade picks for a name like Kevin Durant they can’t ever get to sign there even in a year or two.

unless you win the next two titles, this team has to get broken up in year three or one year of them will cost what an NBA team would have cost eight or nine years ago. Even the best owner won’t spend 500 million for West finals run will he?

Devils advocate... what if the center position moves closer to the value of running backs in the NFL? Teams might be done investing draft capital and/or long extensions into centers heading into their late 20s. The exceptions at the top of the market like Embiid and Joker aside...what if teams value Ayton like we see the league shuffle around Drummond since he left Detroit?

You are not wrong. History supports you on this. Should Phoenix be looking ina year or two, a options to change course will be there. This is a league where Bynum got Dwight Howard in trade. I am just throwing ideas out there because what ifs are all i got to get my fix until the season tips :lol