do you believe there is global warming (climate change) ?

[Jasper]

YES :

you believe where you live temps have changed , and it is not going back to what it was 20 years ago or older.


No : These temps are normal , and no one can prove me wrong.


I say yes. 65 years I have been on this planet , and have several examples. 35 years ago , I hunted ducks opening weekend Oct. 1st in
Wisconsin , and broke ice in the marshes to hunt. The season starts now in Sept .. but for a month I am fighting skeeters , and temps rarely
are in the 30's .. until third week of Oct. Our winters typically were 4.5 months and now we have winter 6 months and 2-4 times during the
winter it rains !!! Last three years Wisconsin where I live has had record snow falls 100-130 inch's a year.
The jet stream has shifted and we are getting more Canadian weather than ever before.
This summer not only drought conditions , I have mowed my horse pasture 1 time this year , (to cut down weeds) typically I am mowing 4-5 times a summer because the grass is to long for the horses to eat.

[BurningHammer]

Texas got flash frozen two years in a row and some people there don't think it was because of the climate change?

Weird temperature swings in last few years, especially during winters, are one of signs something is going wrong.

[Long Duck Dong]

.
I say yes. 65 years I have been on this planet , and have several examples. 35 years ago , I hunted ducks opening weekend Oct. 1st in
Wisconsin , and broke ice in the marshes to hunt. The season starts now in Sept .. but for a month I am fighting skeeters , and temps rarely
are in the 30's .. until third week of Oct.

I have to admit this is true. I don't remember being in shorts as a kid blasting away teal on the opener like we've been doing the last decade or so

[Norcaliblunt]

You need an “either way I don’t give a shit” option.

[ILLsmak]

YES :

you believe where you live temps have changed , and it is not going back to what it was 20 years ago or older.

^

So wait, you think the climate has changed in 20 years and it's not going back from there? That's pretty nuts from a scientific perspective. I guess I could expound and assume you mean that it somehow hit MASS EFFECT 20 years ago and is just gonna get worse exponentially until we all burn alive?

I feel like climate is a cycle. I feel like dumping nuke waste in ocean + pollution absolutely does affect our climate, but I do not agree that it is a one way process to doom. I believe the ocean and the air are like living organisms that can repair themselves and that much more disgusting things have happened in history which we have recovered from. But I'm not really a scientist, so that's just my personal PoV.

We shall see! If climate is getting worse at the rate people say it is, we will live to see some really crazy things. Better get right with God!

-Smak

[ArbitraryWater]

Yes, but the practices suggested for it are nonsense and impeding in freedom, and its nowhere near as damaging as propagated.

[ArbitraryWater]

Its a democratic scam basically.

More fear mongering.

A political prop.



https://i.gyazo.com/8e759fd965b20a9bf357e8f7d44e8f76.jpg

[ArbitraryWater]

Anything that is barely palpable / noticed in real life with real effects, while its supposed to have said tangible effect, is usually bullshit.

[BurningHammer]

>Arby spending 3 consecutive posts trying to prove climate change is dem's scam

:ohwell:

[jstern]

This is the first time that I can remember that Jasper created a poll in which he didn't set it to where users can vote for all the choices. He has really impressed me as of late. First learning how to embed YouTube video, and now creating a proper poll.

As for the question. It's such a scam, involving deep corruption, manipulation, deception going back decades. And this deep corruption and manipulation is very complicated, and it has to go up against a very simple narrative of greenhouse gases, which is very intuitive and simple to understand for the average person passively living their life. People accept it and don't give it any much more thought.

But to me, the fascinating part is just how effective big money is at creating and maintaining this narrative, through funding. And just pure corruption. Basically, setting up an environment where if you don't follow the line, then your career is ruin.

I've been wanting to create a thread about the very complicated topic, but decided to wait a few months since Baller234 recently created a climate change related thread (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?513777-If-you-consider-quot-climate-change-quot-to-be-a-major-issue-you-re-a-brainless-lemming).

[coin24]

Go and buy an EV then retards:oldlol:

People acting like a heat wave or a cold spell arent normal functions of weather that have happened for thousands of years..
Every decade they claim were going to freeze, or global warm, now it’s just “climate change”..

These are the same people who can’t even tell you what % of the atmosphere is made up from carbon, yet will tell you Carbon is our enemy?:lol


Not surprising the same morons who fell hook, line and sinker for Covid are the same climate change warriors and Ukraine lovers

[Jasper]

Go and buy an EV then retards:oldlol:

People acting like a heat wave or a cold spell arent normal functions of weather that have happened for thousands of years..
Every decade they claim were going to freeze, or global warm, now it’s just “climate change”..

These are the same people who can’t even tell you what % of the atmosphere is made up from carbon, yet will tell you Carbon is our enemy?:lol


Not surprising the same morons who fell hook, line and sinker for Covid are the same climate change warriors and Ukraine lovers

In other words you disagree that there is no weather change , and changes have occurred thousands of years.
I don't remember 10,000 years ago man has affected our planet .. in fact I don't remember 1.5 billion vehicles on the planet at that time as well.

[Jasper]

Its a democratic scam basically.

More fear mongering.

A political prop.



https://i.gyazo.com/8e759fd965b20a9bf357e8f7d44e8f76.jpg

fear has changed my perspective , of paying more for heat over the last 20 years , and my pastures where my horses grazed is now literally all most dirt.
I should head to the barn and tell my horses - don't fear it.
good idea

[Jasper]

YES :

you believe where you live temps have changed , and it is not going back to what it was 20 years ago or older.

^

So wait, you think the climate has changed in 20 years and it's not going back from there? That's pretty nuts from a scientific perspective. I guess I could expound and assume you mean that it somehow hit MASS EFFECT 20 years ago and is just gonna get worse exponentially until we all burn alive?

I feel like climate is a cycle. I feel like dumping nuke waste in ocean + pollution absolutely does affect our climate, but I do not agree that it is a one way process to doom. I believe the ocean and the air are like living organisms that can repair themselves and that much more disgusting things have happened in history which we have recovered from. But I'm not really a scientist, so that's just my personal PoV.

We shall see! If climate is getting worse at the rate people say it is, we will live to see some really crazy things. Better get right with God!

-Smak
I never said that.
how long is your cycle ??
A friend said that his cycle was 10,000 years.
I asked him back then were 1.5 billion cars on the roads...

[Baller234]

New York didn't have a single day in August over 90 degrees. First time in 37 years.

If there is an unusual heat wave, New York didn't get the memo.

[RRR3]

Its a democratic scam basically.

More fear mongering.

A political prop.



https://i.gyazo.com/8e759fd965b20a9bf357e8f7d44e8f76.jpg
The thing is the, the Democrats have done nothing about climate change. In fact, Biden has actually approved more oil drilling permits than Trump did. Just because they virtue signal about it doesn't mean it's an issue they actually care about. But knowing this would require you to actually examine things.

[Norcaliblunt]

I’ll go full conspiracy theorist on this one. If climate change is real it’s because of weather modification weapons, or some flat earth alternative cosmos we don’t really understand nature kind of shit.

[Patrick Chewing]

If there is indeed a climate crisis, it has nothing to do with the car you drive or for how long you run your AC. It has to do with population and with deforestation. And a newsflash for all of those who don't know how electric car batteries are made, but you need to remove more trees and resources from the planet, so in a sense, do more damage and cause more climate change to be able to find the elements and raw materials for electric running vehicles. It's a scam. And the solutions are quite simple. A city with trees is cooler than a city without trees. Stop cutting down trees to build more homes, and start building up. Meaning more skyscrapers. Use less space on the map. Ancient civilizations lived in the trees or in the ground. They didn't cut down the whole forest to build a house or a f'n IKEA dresser.

[RRR3]

Climate change is due mainly to the people running the world so any individual citizen should not be getting shamed over it. The governments across the planet and massive corporations are to blame.

[Norcaliblunt]

I wanna know why people even care? I don’t get it.

[MrFonzworth]

>Arby spending 3 consecutive posts trying to prove climate change is dem's scam

:ohwell:

:roll:

Dudes a living parody. Can't help but laugh at every one of his posts. He does more harm then good for his own sake representing his ideas

[imdaman99]

New York didn't have a single day in August over 90 degrees. First time in 37 years.

If there is an unusual heat wave, New York didn't get the memo.

Word. New York saved the heat wave for September. Wouldn't expect some canadian or australian to know that though.

[Axe]

Go and buy an EV then retards:oldlol:

People acting like a heat wave or a cold spell arent normal functions of weather that have happened for thousands of years..
Every decade they claim were going to freeze, or global warm, now it’s just “climate change”..

These are the same people who can’t even tell you what % of the atmosphere is made up from carbon, yet will tell you Carbon is our enemy?:lol
To some extent, i agree with this. As car enthusiast, i am not ready to see internal combustion engines go yet. But the inevitable has started already it seems. :(

[Jasper]

If there is indeed a climate crisis, it has nothing to do with the car you drive or for how long you run your AC. It has to do with population and with deforestation. And a newsflash for all of those who don't know how electric car batteries are made, but you need to remove more trees and resources from the planet, so in a sense, do more damage and cause more climate change to be able to find the elements and raw materials for electric running vehicles. It's a scam. And the solutions are quite simple. A city with trees is cooler than a city without trees. Stop cutting down trees to build more homes, and start building up. Meaning more skyscrapers. Use less space on the map. Ancient civilizations lived in the trees or in the ground. They didn't cut down the whole forest to build a house or a f'n IKEA dresser.

you are right about deforestation: BUT it is not only for new houses (population increase) BUT it is also to supply food for the masses.
All most every country has upped their production of food, and people in USA don't realize our production is dropping or will drop significantly because of the loss of water.
I dog train , and even though I am in the most concentrated lake region in the world , I have lost 8 ponds. Some have scant amount of water, or bone dry. I am now driving 90+ minutes to train my dog in a pond. Out west the reservoirs that supply not just cites but states has lost several feet, and may take decades to recover.
How are those food farms doing ? Many have cut their production , and your food prices have gone up.
Same in the beef industry. Cattle need food , and those resources are struggling as well.
I have a farm in ND and my neighbors (all cattle farms ), are having issues feeding their cattle. (beef prices up in grocery stores ?)

And we will not talk about the Ozone or the hemisphere. :oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

The thing is the, the Democrats have done nothing about climate change. In fact, Biden has actually approved more oil drilling permits than Trump did. Just because they virtue signal about it doesn't mean it's an issue they actually care about. But knowing this would require you to actually examine things.


They do stuff all the time.

Its usually absurd measures.


Bill Gates is currently funding millions of trees getting chopped off to save the climate.


Theyre talking about blocking the sun or putting lasers in the sky to change the weather.

They banned gas stoves in some states.

This is all done for climate change.

Wake up.

[Jasper]

They do stuff all the time.

Its usually absurd measures.


Bill Gates is currently funding millions of trees getting chopped off to save the climate.


Theyre talking about blocking the sun or putting lasers in the sky to change the weather.

They banned gas stoves in some states.

This is all done for climate change.

Wake up.

can I ask what kind of pipe do you smoke ?

[Baller234]

Daily reminder that Barack Obama lives only a few hundred feet from the atlantic ocean.

Odd behavior for someone who believes that climate change will cause rising sea levels in the near future.

https://images.barrons.com/im-133724?width=1280&size=1.77777778

[ArbitraryWater]

can I ask what kind of pipe do you smoke ?

Yea, thats the party youre voting for every year, dumb dumb.


Scary to realize, ay

[ArbitraryWater]

They are literally tracking meat consumption to help the cimate in NYC and you idiots will continue voting for this party

https://www.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/263-23/mayor-adams-commits-reducing-city-s-food-based-emissions-33-percent-2030-after-releasing#/0
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/watch-live-mayor-eric-adams-makes-climate-and-food-related-announcement-from-nyc-health-hospitals-culinary-center/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwxhxafLknc/


"They dont do anything about climate change" nice one, existence is pain

[Long Duck Dong]

Republicans need to embrace climate change as a tool to enforce policy like the Democrats do. Population control in equatorial carbon sinks and limiting immigration into high carbon use nations, getting rid of child tax credits etc. If you can't beat em, join em.

[bladefd]

If there is indeed a climate crisis, it has nothing to do with the car you drive or for how long you run your AC. It has to do with population and with deforestation. And a newsflash for all of those who don't know how electric car batteries are made, but you need to remove more trees and resources from the planet, so in a sense, do more damage and cause more climate change to be able to find the elements and raw materials for electric running vehicles. It's a scam. And the solutions are quite simple. A city with trees is cooler than a city without trees. Stop cutting down trees to build more homes, and start building up. Meaning more skyscrapers. Use less space on the map. Ancient civilizations lived in the trees or in the ground. They didn't cut down the whole forest to build a house or a f'n IKEA dresser.

You are an completely clueless, aren't you Chewbacca's? Climate crisis has to do with all of it. Mostly so due to pollution, which includes vehicles (co2), excessive number of animals we breed for consumption (methane), manufacturing processes, etc. Deforestation is also contributing factor to climate change and so is population expansion.

And you are wrong about electric cars. Yes, you do need to mine lithium and use resources, but it gives you vastly better mileage than gas cars, batteries last for decades & be recycled/reused at the end, and you can also recharge using renewable energy like solar/wind/hydro/etc (and nuclear energy too). As renewable energy continues to grow (and as solar systems drop in cost each year), it will be much cheaper than using oil to fuel your car. Our goal is to significantly cut down on pollution, not to cut all pollution. Comprehend the difference?

[bladefd]

you are right about deforestation: BUT it is not only for new houses (population increase) BUT it is also to supply food for the masses.
All most every country has upped their production of food, and people in USA don't realize our production is dropping or will drop significantly because of the loss of water.
I dog train , and even though I am in the most concentrated lake region in the world , I have lost 8 ponds. Some have scant amount of water, or bone dry. I am now driving 90+ minutes to train my dog in a pond. Out west the reservoirs that supply not just cites but states has lost several feet, and may take decades to recover.
How are those food farms doing ? Many have cut their production , and your food prices have gone up.
Same in the beef industry. Cattle need food , and those resources are struggling as well.
I have a farm in ND and my neighbors (all cattle farms ), are having issues feeding their cattle. (beef prices up in grocery stores ?)

And we will not talk about the Ozone or the hemisphere. :oldlol:

Agriculture, mainly grazing grounds for animals we breed for consumption like cows/sheep/etc, uses a ton of land. If we significantly lessened meat consumption globally or switched to fake meat, it would be very helpful. And for agriculture farms, you can do vertical stacking of farms inside buildings and grow more food that way (I forget what those vertical farms are called). And ofc, we can plant a lot more trees.

[RRR3]

Lil arby thinks the Dems virtue signaling and enacting half measures is them doing something about the climate lol. Dumb as shit.

[Manny98]

Yes I believe in climate change but not on this planet long enough to give a shit

[Patrick Chewing]

You are an completely clueless, aren't you Chewbacca's? Climate crisis has to do with all of it. Mostly so due to pollution, which includes vehicles (co2), excessive number of animals we breed for consumption (methane), manufacturing processes, etc. Deforestation is also contributing factor to climate change and so is population expansion.

And you are wrong about electric cars. Yes, you do need to mine lithium and use resources, but it gives you vastly better mileage than gas cars, batteries last for decades & be recycled/reused at the end, and you can also recharge using renewable energy like solar/wind/hydro/etc (and nuclear energy too). As renewable energy continues to grow (and as solar systems drop in cost each year), it will be much cheaper than using oil to fuel your car. Our goal is to significantly cut down on pollution, not to cut all pollution. Comprehend the difference?

Electric cars do not give you better mileage you clueless dolt.

And the argument isn't about what's cheaper in the long run, it's about what's better for the environment. And as of right now, it's not electric vehicles.

[ArbitraryWater]

Lil arby thinks the Dems virtue signaling and enacting half measures is them doing something about the climate lol. Dumb as shit.

The point isnt if it helps or not dumbass, that was never the topic. Its that theyre literally doing things to stop it, which you denied. Weather theyre hepful/useful is your interpretation.

Theyre doing it and its restricting everyday citizen.

[RRR3]

The point isnt if it helps or not dumbass, that was never the topic. Its that theyre literally doing things to stop it, which you denied. Weather theyre hepful/useful is your interpretation.

Theyre doing it and its restricting everyday citizen.
Yeah they’re doing stuff to make it look like they’re fighting it but it’s not accomplishing anything. If they actually cared they’d be going after massive corporations and the government itself. Those are the real causes of climate change not some individual citizen. Half measures isn’t trying to stop it. And it’s not my interpretation, climate change continues to get worse. Democrats haven’t stopped it or helped it at all. Biden has approved more oil drilling than trump, that’s not the move of a man concerned about climate change. As your friend baller pointed out Obama lives on the ocean again not someone concerned about it. They’re frauds. And you fall for it.

[BurningHammer]

Electric cars do not give you better mileage you clueless dolt.

And the argument isn't about what's cheaper in the long run, it's about what's better for the environment. And as of right now, it's not electric vehicles.

Hybrid actually is a good idea for the current state of Earth.

[Axe]

Hybrid actually is a good idea for the current state of Earth.
This probably.

[Jasper]

New York didn't have a single day in August over 90 degrees. First time in 37 years.

If there is an unusual heat wave, New York didn't get the memo.

ugh huh :
https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/weather/2022/08/26/august-brought-the-most-90-degree-days-to-nyc-in-over-a-decade#:~:text=To%20have%20more%2090%2Ddegree,of%2 0the%20year%20for%20NYC.

making up for record 90's in 2022.

2023 temps for NY : https://weatherspark.com/h/y/23912/2023/Historical-Weather-during-2023-in-New-York-City-New-York-United-States

[Jasper]

Yeah they’re doing stuff to make it look like they’re fighting it but it’s not accomplishing anything. If they actually cared they’d be going after massive corporations and the government itself. Those are the real causes of climate change not some individual citizen. Half measures isn’t trying to stop it. And it’s not my interpretation, climate change continues to get worse. Democrats haven’t stopped it or helped it at all. Biden has approved more oil drilling than trump, that’s not the move of a man concerned about climate change. As your friend baller pointed out Obama lives on the ocean again not someone concerned about it. They’re frauds. And you fall for it.

I'm assuming your 18 or 19 and expect change to occur overnight.
You first need to stop your bed wetting , before you think about boning a chick.

[Jasper]

so far the tally is 5 vs 2

[bladefd]

Electric cars do not give you better mileage you clueless dolt.

And the argument isn't about what's cheaper in the long run, it's about what's better for the environment. And as of right now, it's not electric vehicles.

Significantly better than ICE vehicles. SIGNIFICANTLY.

Did you read the rest of my post? Batteries give much better mileage, much longer life, can be reused/recycled for decades more beyond its normal lifetime, and can be recharged using clean renewable energy to improve its e-MPG even more. All much better for the environment than ICE vehicles.

[bladefd]

Yeah they’re doing stuff to make it look like they’re fighting it but it’s not accomplishing anything. If they actually cared they’d be going after massive corporations and the government itself. Those are the real causes of climate change not some individual citizen. Half measures isn’t trying to stop it. And it’s not my interpretation, climate change continues to get worse. Democrats haven’t stopped it or helped it at all. Biden has approved more oil drilling than trump, that’s not the move of a man concerned about climate change. As your friend baller pointed out Obama lives on the ocean again not someone concerned about it. They’re frauds. And you fall for it.

I would say democrats have helped (certainly much more than Republicans, who want to do nothing), but not enough.

[Jasper]

You are an completely clueless, aren't you Chewbacca's? Climate crisis has to do with all of it. Mostly so due to pollution, which includes vehicles (co2), excessive number of animals we breed for consumption (methane), manufacturing processes, etc. Deforestation is also contributing factor to climate change and so is population expansion.

And you are wrong about electric cars. Yes, you do need to mine lithium and use resources, but it gives you vastly better mileage than gas cars, batteries last for decades & be recycled/reused at the end, and you can also recharge using renewable energy like solar/wind/hydro/etc (and nuclear energy too). As renewable energy continues to grow (and as solar systems drop in cost each year), it will be much cheaper than using oil to fuel your car. Our goal is to significantly cut down on pollution, not to cut all pollution. Comprehend the difference?

This is probably one of the most intelligent comments on ISH I have seen in years.
Granted our world has just started the conversion , and it will take probably 30-50 years, but your kids and grandkids will benefit from it , and they can say grandpa or grandma helped make our world better.
Being selfish , saying it's bullshit only tells me that you only think of your self or your generation , and screw the next generation of people , animals and plants that live on mother earth.

our biggest net project for our world is converting salt water for farms to generate food , whether it is animals or plants. I can not emphasize how shortage of USA fresh water is becoming.

[Jasper]

if you do not believe in science , don't click on link.

if you believe in science , this will show , current and future impacts to our planet.

https://geoawesomeness.com/top-11-maps-ultimately-explain-climate-change-impact/


========================================
I also want to remind people with short memories about 911.

When the US shut down the airports for 3+ days , our air quality significantly changed.
Not like from 1 to 100. but a changed that showed scientists that levels of pollution had been changed.

When I heard this , the first thought , why not stop flights for 2 days a month?? (it could help)

[FKAri]

The way you've phrased it the answer is definitely yes but it's a loaded question so answers will vary.

[Patrick Chewing]

if you do not believe in science , don't click on link.

if you believe in science , this will show , current and future impacts to our planet.

https://geoawesomeness.com/top-11-maps-ultimately-explain-climate-change-impact/


========================================
I also want to remind people with short memories about 911.

When the US shut down the airports for 3+ days , our air quality significantly changed.
Not like from 1 to 100. but a changed that showed scientists that levels of pollution had been changed.

When I heard this , the first thought , why not stop flights for 2 days a month?? (it could help)

They need to study your brain once you pass.

[Jasper]

They need to study your brain once you pass.

10 am must be slow at the jewelry clerk store ...

Why don't work , and concentrate on making a living for the owner , instead of being on the internet, and hacking people as you so often do ?:confusedshrug:

[Jasper]

Africa - hottest nation on the planet ??

https://abcnews.go.com/International/millions-dollars-pledged-africas-landmark-climate-summit-enters/story?id=102928582

[RRR3]

I'm assuming your 18 or 19 and expect change to occur overnight.
You first need to stop your bed wetting , before you think about boning a chick.
Shut the hell up gramps.

[Patrick Chewing]

Shut the hell up gramps.

:lebronamazed:

[RRR3]

:lebronamazed:
He’s racist I’ve never liked him, don’t act so shocked Gastrick.

[Jasper]

He’s racist I’ve never liked him, don’t act so shocked Gastrick.

farthest from the truth. ,, high schooler.

[RRR3]

farthest from the truth. ,, high schooler.
I've seen you say the n word multiple times, pops.

[warriorfan]

I've seen you say the n word multiple times, pops.

idk if you haven’t realized it by now but that is a straight up troll account

[Jasper]

I've seen you say the n word multiple times, pops. AK-

how bout white trailer trash ???

[Patrick Chewing]

The odds of someone named Jasper being a racist is probably like 99.99%.

[Jasper]

The odds of someone named Jasper being a racist is probably like 99.99%.

:lol

compared to your 1%


:roll::roll::roll:

[bladefd]

Substituting 50% of meat consumption for plant-based alternative (i.e. fake meat) can reduce 31% of agricultural greenhouse gas emissions. That includes beef, pork, and chicken (not sure about fish). That's quite significant. It can also save lots of freshwater, forests, and land necessary for grazing/feed for these domesticated animals bred just for consumption.

https://www.technologynetworks.com/applied-sciences/news/substituting-meat-for-plant-based-alternatives-to-cut-global-emissions-378729

[Jasper]

Substituting 50% of meat consumption for plant-based alternative (i.e. fake meat) can reduce 31% of agricultural greenhouse gas emissions. That includes beef, pork, and chicken (not sure about fish). That's quite significant. It can also save lots of freshwater, forests, and land necessary for grazing/feed for these domesticated animals bred just for consumption.

https://www.technologynetworks.com/applied-sciences/news/substituting-meat-for-plant-based-alternatives-to-cut-global-emissions-378729

good point , but our current drought in northern Wisc.. I lost 8 ponds that look lik a desert , and some a mud pads. Never touched by any live stock.

[Jimmy Rustler]

YES :

you believe where you live temps have changed , and it is not going back to what it was 20 years ago or older.


No : These temps are normal , and no one can prove me wrong.


I say yes. 65 years I have been on this planet , and have several examples. 35 years ago , I hunted ducks opening weekend Oct. 1st in
Wisconsin , and broke ice in the marshes to hunt. The season starts now in Sept .. but for a month I am fighting skeeters , and temps rarely
are in the 30's .. until third week of Oct. Our winters typically were 4.5 months and now we have winter 6 months and 2-4 times during the
winter it rains !!! Last three years Wisconsin where I live has had record snow falls 100-130 inch's a year.
The jet stream has shifted and we are getting more Canadian weather than ever before.
This summer not only drought conditions , I have mowed my horse pasture 1 time this year , (to cut down weeds) typically I am mowing 4-5 times a summer because the grass is to long for the horses to eat.

Here's the thing though: at what period in the earth's history has the climate not been changing?

[Baller234]

Substituting 50% of meat consumption for plant-based alternative (i.e. fake meat) can reduce 31% of agricultural greenhouse gas emissions. That includes beef, pork, and chicken (not sure about fish). That's quite significant. It can also save lots of freshwater, forests, and land necessary for grazing/feed for these domesticated animals bred just for consumption.

https://www.technologynetworks.com/applied-sciences/news/substituting-meat-for-plant-based-alternatives-to-cut-global-emissions-378729

Can't wait for the follow up:

"Ten Ways Eating Meat is Actually Kind of Racist (And Sexist Too)"

[Jasper]

Here's the thing though: at what period in the earth's history has the climate not been changing?

Here's the thing though : Aat what period in the earth's history has the human race affected the climate ?

[Patrick Chewing]

Here's the thing though : Aat what period in the earth's history has the human race affected the climate ?

The Earth feels hotter because of mass deforestation. I've already given you clowns the answer. Plant a tree on your farm and put a sock in it.

[bladefd]

The Earth feels hotter because of mass deforestation. I've already given you clowns the answer. Plant a tree on your farm and put a sock in it.

I responded to you with actual science, which you didn't bother to read. I have done research on climate change so I have seen the data and the numbers. It's not just deforestation by itself but imcludes much more.

[tpols]

The earth has gone through crazy swings in temperature and land mass and ocean changing since its inception. Humans are definitely a plague upon nature right now though I have to agree with. There's way too many of us and we're killing all other majestic forms of life. Every type of elephant and whale, tigers, wolves, eagles etc. even chimps and orangutans. Every type of beautiful forest and tree as well. We went from 1 billion people 100 years ago to over 8 billion today. That's absurd. At this point humans are basically a parasite on this planet sucking up an infinite amount of resources and killing everything that surrounds them.

[Patrick Chewing]

The earth has gone through crazy swings in temperature and land mass and ocean changing since its inception. Humans are definitely a plague upon nature right now though I have to agree with. There's way too many of us and we're killing all other majestic forms of life. Every type of elephant and whale, tigers, wolves, eagles etc. even chimps and orangutans. Every type of beautiful forest and tree as well. We went from 1 billion people 100 years ago to over 8 billion today. That's absurd. At this point humans are basically a parasite on this planet sucking up an infinite amount of resources and killing everything that surrounds them.

Throw all Liberals into the ocean.

[bladefd]

The earth has gone through crazy swings in temperature and land mass and ocean changing since its inception. Humans are definitely a plague upon nature right now though I have to agree with. There's way too many of us and we're killing all other majestic forms of life. Every type of elephant and whale, tigers, wolves, eagles etc. even chimps and orangutans. Every type of beautiful forest and tree as well. We went from 1 billion people 100 years ago to over 8 billion today. That's absurd. At this point humans are basically a parasite on this planet sucking up an infinite amount of resources and killing everything that surrounds them.

Not usually in this short period of approximately 150 years (essentially correlates with the beginning of the industrial revolution when coal entered the picture). The exceptions have been massive volcanic eruptions and things like asteroid strikes & massive solar storms.

[Patrick Chewing]

I responded to you with actual science, which you didn't bother to read. I have done research on climate change so I have seen the data and the numbers. It's not just deforestation by itself but imcludes much more.

Have you planted a tree today? I know it's hard whilst on a wheelchair, but digging a hole can't be that hard.

[warriorfan]

Throw all Liberals into the ocean.

They used to do that back in the day. If a baby blade popped out with a deformed foot they would have just let it go into the sea.

Wouldn’t it be nice.

[Nanners]

If there is global warming, there are still a dozen environmental hazards that are more dangerous for humanity yet they are largely ignored for financial reasons

A slight warming of the atmosphere over time wont extinct humans, worst case scenario canada and russia have incereased migration. Meanwhile the real threats to the future health/safety of humanity are things like microplastics, heavy metals, synthetic fertilizers, engineered viruses, electromagnetic interference.... "the idea that humanity is at risk of getting too hot is a distraction for simpletons who cant think beyond what their media tells them to think"

[Jasper]

The Earth feels hotter because of mass deforestation. I've already given you clowns the answer. Plant a tree on your farm and put a sock in it.

I have planted about 1000 trees on my farm ,,, u are lucky if you know what a tree looks like in your fabricated world.
Well guess what - you will be paying me yearly for the wind mill I am allowing to go up on my ND farm.
Just talked with INvenergy... looks like a go.
Will be getting 6500 a year with 8% increases annually.

Patsy don't forget to turn on your lights !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:roll::lol

[Patrick Chewing]

I have planted about 1000 trees on my farm ,,, u are lucky if you know what a tree looks like in your fabricated world.
Well guess what - you will be paying me yearly for the wind mill I am allowing to go up on my ND farm.
Just talked with INvenergy... looks like a go.
Will be getting 6500 a year with 8% increases annually.

Patsy don't forget to turn on your lights !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:roll::lol

I'm so jealous of you.


Said no one ever.

[Jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm6m30Ef1Vg

just for Jstern

[coin24]

If there is global warming, there are still a dozen environmental hazards that are more dangerous for humanity yet they are largely ignored for financial reasons

A slight warming of the atmosphere over time wont extinct humans, worst case scenario canada and russia have incereased migration. Meanwhile the real threats to the future health/safety of humanity are things like microplastics, heavy metals, synthetic fertilizers, engineered viruses, electromagnetic interference.... "the idea that humanity is at risk of getting too hot is a distraction for simpletons who cant think beyond what their media tells them to think"

Bingo:cheers:

[Jasper]

If there is global warming, there are still a dozen environmental hazards that are more dangerous for humanity yet they are largely ignored for financial reasons

A slight warming of the atmosphere over time wont extinct humans, worst case scenario canada and russia have incereased migration. Meanwhile the real threats to the future health/safety of humanity are things like microplastics, heavy metals, synthetic fertilizers, engineered viruses, electromagnetic interference.... "the idea that humanity is at risk of getting too hot is a distraction for simpletons who cant think beyond what their media tells them to think"

Slight warming ???? so the examples you have given are they affecting the over all health of the planet and people as global warming??
I don't think so. The whole planet is warming up, and if the oceans increase 2 feet , NY city for example won't have a chance as well as several other cities in the world.

Meanwhile the real threats to the future health/safety of humanity are things like microplastics, heavy metals, synthetic fertilizers, engineered viruses, electromagnetic interference.... "the idea that humanity is at risk of getting too hot is a distraction for simpletons who cant think beyond what their media tells them to think

These are literally insignificant to the world population , Already our food prices have arisen because farms are having issues with a drought , and that transcends to beef , pork, and chickens , because grains are not as productive. My brother in law is a scientist and before he retired two years ago , he analyzed a study of the Atlantic ocean , where the statue of liberty sits , ocean levels are up 1 foot. That has never been recorded in history. 1 foot to you means nothing , but NY city sits at ocean level. You going to put NY city residence in your back yard ??
your a joke.

[Baller234]

Slight warming ???? so the examples you have given are they affecting the over all health of the planet and people as global warming??
I don't think so. The whole planet is warming up, and if the oceans increase 2 feet , NY city for example won't have a chance as well as several other cities in the world.

Oh wow, the ocean is going to rise two feet? Has anyone told Obama? Here's his house.

https://images.barrons.com/im-133724?width=1280&size=1.77777778

You don't think if the oceans were about to rise, someone like Obama would be the first to know? Tell me, if he isn't scared then why should anyone else be?

[Patrick Chewing]

Slight warming ???? so the examples you have given are they affecting the over all health of the planet and people as global warming??
I don't think so. The whole planet is warming up, and if the oceans increase 2 feet , NY city for example won't have a chance as well as several other cities in the world.

Meanwhile the real threats to the future health/safety of humanity are things like microplastics, heavy metals, synthetic fertilizers, engineered viruses, electromagnetic interference.... "the idea that humanity is at risk of getting too hot is a distraction for simpletons who cant think beyond what their media tells them to think

These are literally insignificant to the world population , Already our food prices have arisen because farms are having issues with a drought , and that transcends to beef , pork, and chickens , because grains are not as productive. My brother in law is a scientist and before he retired two years ago , he analyzed a study of the Atlantic ocean , where the statue of liberty sits , ocean levels are up 1 foot. That has never been recorded in history. 1 foot to you means nothing , but NY city sits at ocean level. You going to put NY city residence in your back yard ??
your a joke.

You sound nuts.


And yes, if New York City goes underwater, Nanners would gladly take me in since we are like best friends on this site. It'll be fun. We'll be playing Madden till the weee hours of the morning, then log on ISH drunk and make fun of posters like you and RRR3. I'm almost wanting the oceans to rise and swallow up NYC seeing how fun hanging out with Nanners will be.

[FKAri]

Nobody rational denies climate change. The climate debate is about what to do about it. Of course on ISH this nuance is lost. Here we find Jasper and Patrick debating whether the World is coming to an end in 50 years or is the Climate even changing?