This past season's league-wide field goal % is the highest since '89-'90

[Full Court]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html

The overall NBA field goal % for the '22-'23 season was the highest it's been in over 30 years. The highest since the '89-'90 season in fact. This despite having well over 5 times as many 3-point attempts per game. It's certainly the highest FG% since the start of the 3-ball-fest era.

To what do you attribute this? It could that

a) Players are better shooters all of a sudden.

or

b) This was the second year of using the Wilson ball. Players may have needed a year to get used to it, but now that they're used to it, it's simply a superior ball to the Spalding model.






Or perhaps it just shows that defense is the weakest its ever been. :confusedshrug:

[sdot_thadon]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html

The overall NBA field goal % for the '22-'23 season was the highest it's been in over 30 years. The highest since the '89-'90 season in fact. This despite having well over 5 times as many 3-point attempts per game. It's certainly the highest FG% since the start of the 3-ball-fest era. .......

Or perhaps it just shows that defense is the weakest its ever been. :confusedshrug:

So you mean to tell me it's the highest since the 80s to early 90's, the time frame that gave us a big chunk of the top 10 greatest players ever? So it's basically the weakest defense has been since Mj, Magic, Bird, etc were all in their primes? That's crazy thanks for backfiring, err I mean shedding light on this little known fact.

[Full Court]

So you mean to tell me it's the highest since the 80s to early 90's, the time frame that gave us a big chunk of the top 10 greatest players ever? So it's basically the weakest defense has been since Mj, Magic, Bird, etc were all in their primes? That's crazy thanks for backfiring, err I mean shedding light on this little known fact.

I knew one of you guys was going to try to go for that. :lol Doesn't wash though.

I reiterate: There were over FIVE TIMES the amount of three point attempts as there were in the '89-'90 season. If you eliminate those and just go by 2-point field goals, this last season blows 80s/ early 90s out of the water. Go ahead and do the math if you dare. We're talking around a 55% fg percentage.


Sorry, nice try.

[ArbitraryWater]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html

The overall NBA field goal % for the '22-'23 season was the highest it's been in over 30 years. The highest since the '89-'90 season in fact. This despite having well over 5 times as many 3-point attempts per game. It's certainly the highest FG% since the start of the 3-ball-fest era.

To what do you attribute this? It could that

a) Players are better shooters all of a sudden.

or

b) This was the second year of using the Wilson ball. Players may have needed a year to get used to it, but now that they're used to it, it's simply a superior ball to the Spalding model.






Or perhaps it just shows that defense is the weakest its ever been. :confusedshrug:


What do you think makes more sense?


Evolution or Devolution?

[sdot_thadon]

I knew one of you guys was going to try to go for that. :lol Doesn't wash though.

I reiterate: There were over FIVE TIMES the amount of three point attempts as there were in the '89-'90 season. If you eliminate those and just go by 2-point field goals, this last season blows 80s/ early 90s out of the water. Go ahead and do the math if you dare. We're talking around a 55% fg percentage.


Sorry, nice try.

As expected that went smooth over your head like an F-16. I don't actually believe this is a real debate, it's far too shallow a thought. If you're going to make that statement it gives way to tons more that you aren't equipped to deal with. Yes there are more 3s in this era, so continue your stupid train of thought. Does that also mean:

-This eras fg% is higher do to the skill/threat of the 3 making paint points more available?

- That eras defense was actually in fact inferior, due to not having to defend the entire floor from the threat of scoring?

- without the threat of a 3 pretty much at all in comparison, why did the fg% still remain that high?

....and so on. There's a reason it's fruitless for most fans to compare eras. Because it gets done in either an extremely lazy, or incompetent manner. In your case? Both.

[Axe]

Banned. :yaohappy:

Don't forget to 1* this pathetic thread, guys.

[8Ball]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html

The overall NBA field goal % for the '22-'23 season was the highest it's been in over 30 years. The highest since the '89-'90 season in fact. This despite having well over 5 times as many 3-point attempts per game. It's certainly the highest FG% since the start of the 3-ball-fest era.

To what do you attribute this? It could that

a) Players are better shooters all of a sudden.

or

b) This was the second year of using the Wilson ball. Players may have needed a year to get used to it, but now that they're used to it, it's simply a superior ball to the Spalding model.






Or perhaps it just shows that defense is the weakest its ever been. :confusedshrug:

NBA teams are trying as much as possible to load up on defensive 3 and D wing players as well as versatile bigs that can defend pick and roll yet OP thinks defence is weakest its ever been. Teams overpay for defensive 3 and D players.

Maybe because its harder and harder to guard a more spaced out court from all the 3 point shooting.


This is obvious to nearly every single fan base that watches basketball.

[8Ball]

As expected that went smooth over your head like an F-16. I don't actually believe this is a real debate, it's far too shallow a thought. If you're going to make that statement it gives way to tons more that you aren't equipped to deal with. Yes there are more 3s in this era, so continue your stupid train of thought. Does that also mean:

-This eras fg% is higher do to the skill/threat of the 3 making paint points more available?

- That eras defense was actually in fact inferior, due to not having to defend the entire floor from the threat of scoring?

- without the threat of a 3 pretty much at all in comparison, why did the fg% still remain that high?

....and so on. There's a reason it's fruitless for most fans to compare eras. Because it gets done in either an extremely lazy, or incompetent manner. In your case? Both.

All these versatile defensive wings that every team hunts tooth and nail for in free agency simply aren't trying. It's a conspiracy to inflate NBA scoring numbers and NBA defensive players are in on it!

[8Ball]

Banned. :yaohappy:

Don't forget to 1* this pathetic thread, guys.

I broke this dude mentally.

After my back and forth with him 2 years ago about my high level of wealth he completely lost it.

[Jimmy Rustler]

I broke this dude mentally.

After my back and forth with him 2 years ago about my high level of wealth he completely lost it.

:roll:

^What a hoser. How's the toilet cleaning business working out for you?

:lebronamazed:

[3ba11]

.

NBA 2-point field goal %

2023...... 54.9 (open paint)
1990...... 48.6 (packed paint)


Today's game isn't really basketball - it's more of a technique - the spacing and no-contact makes it look more like a dance routine or marching band than basketball.

It's hands-off, spaced-out, no-impede (no defense), aka beginner format

[Jimmy Rustler]

.

NBA 2-point field goal %

2023...... 54.9 (open paint)
1990...... 48.6 (packed paint)


Today's game isn't really basketball - it's more of a technique.. It's hands-off, spaced-out, no-impede (no defense), aka beginner format

Exactly.

8ball and sdot_thadon don't seem able to grasp this despite the raw data being put right in front of their faces.

[Jimmy Rustler]

Don't forget to 1* this pathetic thread, guys.

It's very surprising that this thread would send someone into a bitch fit. Shocking, really.

[Axe]

^^If you mean the autistic loser op, then yes. I solemnly agree with you.

[sdot_thadon]

Exactly.

8ball and sdot_thadon don't seem able to grasp this despite the raw data being put right in front of their faces.

Just see things from a certain point of view. One could easily say you're incapable of grasping the concept of evolution. Rather than seeing a game that isn't "your" basketball, I see a game that's evolved in a way that players have become scoring threats up 35 feet in some cases, rather than only being able to shuffle up jumpers from just outside the paint. It's cause and effect the threat and defensive responsibility being stretched further out makes it exponentially more difficult for the teams to protect the paint AND the perimeter without extraordinary personel. So obviously most of the time they are forced to concede one or the other. In the 90s nobody really had a respectable jumper past 15 feet lol, Elite guys could maybe stretch it to 20 footers. And snipers, could shoot 3s albeit at a seriously low clip attempt wise. So obviously it was harder to score closer to the rim because no one had to respect outside shooting to a degree.(I don't mean not at all, just nowhere near the modern game) Literally one of Jordan's signature career moments was based on a team not being willing to respect him shooting from outside lol. Don Nelson literally used to camp non shooters out at 3 point range just to force spacing. These are 2 pretty different times.

[90sgoat]

What do you think makes more sense?


Evolution or Devolution?

Devolution for sure.

We're living in a down spiral, people just haven't discovered it yet, because a few people like Elon Musk makes cool shit.

Go look at Detroit, Chicago and San Francisco. Those cities will turn into Johannesburg in a few months once the money runs out.

[Jimmy Rustler]

^^If you mean the autistic loser op, then yes. I solemnly agree with you.

What a meltdown. :roll:

Serious question: were you crying when you made this post?

[Jimmy Rustler]

Ok, not bad reasoning. But the three point era's been going on for a while. How do you account for the fact that fg% this past year was higher than last year, the year before, and every other year in this era?

[Axe]

I broke this dude mentally. (https://i.ibb.co/g4tnXnv/IMG-20230626-052542.jpg)

After my back and forth with him 2 years ago about my high level of wealth he completely lost it.
:oldlol:

[8Ball]

:roll:

^What a hoser. How's the toilet cleaning business working out for you?

:lebronamazed:

Hahahhahahahaha

Still crawling around inside your own puke bucket after getting banned and posting on an alt account because you are internally seething.

[Jimmy Rustler]

:cry:

:oldlol:

[Jimmy Rustler]

Hahahhahahahaha

Still crawling around inside your own puke bucket after getting banned and posting on an alt account because you are internally seething.

^Reeks of insecurity.

See, you know you got brutalized so badly on here that you couldn't even show your face for MONTHS. And that's happened multiple times. No wonder you're so insecure - and no wonder you're a Bronie fluffer.

By the way, I hear the Canadian economy isn't doing so well. If you need more work, and you probably do, I have a buddy who just had a major toilet overflow. He could use some cleanup.

[Axe]

Hahahhahahahaha

Still crawling around inside your own puke bucket after getting banned and posting on an alt account because you are internally seething.
:lol (https://i.ibb.co/4dCdLSB/IMG-20230207-091032.jpg)

[Jimmy Rustler]

Notice the low IQ among us, such as the autistic kid who keeps posting, are avoiding the actual content of this thread like the plague.

They know that it doesn't help the legacy of their hero, who's only actual accomplishment is career points - during the WEAKEST DEFEENSIVE ERA in the history of the sport.

[Axe]

https://i.ibb.co/gDsySW3/IMG-20230603-203842.jpg
Attention.

[Jimmy Rustler]

^Literally crying as he types. Again. :roll: Bitch having a bitch fit. :confusedshrug:

[Axe]

Who attracts op more? Lebron or jordan? :confusedshrug:

:roll:

[Jimmy Rustler]

Who sends Axe into worse bitch fits? Jordan or Full Court?

:roll:

[Axe]

https://i.ibb.co/GtDGN31/IMG-1954.jpg
X.

[Jimmy Rustler]

X.

Waiting the ENTIRE DAY for me to post. :roll:

So autistic.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia3.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2Fd3MMcC KoCmPN9yve%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=7e134ab34b0b93c3747b4103f33fe3e14b5a8b779320c1 5aaebe092225c0a2b0&ipo=images

[Axe]

. (https://i.ibb.co/JmpGnKz/IMG-20230528-095117.jpg)

NBA 2-point field goal %

2023...... 54.9 (open paint)
1990...... 48.6 (packed paint)


Today's game isn't really basketball - it's more of a technique - the spacing and no-contact makes it look more like a dance routine or marching band than basketball.

It's hands-off, spaced-out, no-impede (no defense), aka beginner format
International players today > plumbers from the 90s expansion era

[Jimmy Rustler]

International players today > plumbers from the 90s expansion era

Post us a list of plumbers, grocery baggers, and auto mechanics from the 90s.

We'll wait.

:lol

[Axe]

All these versatile defensive wings that every team hunts tooth and nail for in free agency simply aren't trying. (https://i.ibb.co/9sM1BRX/IMG-20230123-110228.jpg) It's a conspiracy to inflate NBA scoring numbers and NBA defensive players are in on it!
Sounds like what rudy gobert is today who seems hesitant to be a dominant force in the league.

[Jimmy Rustler]

Post us a list of plumbers, grocery baggers, and auto mechanics from the 90s.

We'll wait.

:lol

Yep, he can't do it. Once again, he's confirmed as an autistic idiot pathetically trying to do damage control. :roll:

:lebroncry:

[Axe]

^^Says the braindead low iq sore loser who thought that grant williams is still with the celtics. :confusedshrug: :oldlol:

[Jimmy Rustler]

Post us a list of plumbers, grocery baggers, and auto mechanics from the 90s.

We'll wait.

:lol

:roll:

He gets busted for lying to try to prop up his shrivelly hero, and all he can do about it is throw bitch fits.

Stinky AND stupid.

:lebronamazed:

[Axe]

^^Says the autistic jizzrag whose garbage ass main handle got banned for the fourth time already. :yaohappy:

[Jimmy Rustler]

Post us a list of plumbers, grocery baggers, and auto mechanics from the 90s.

We'll wait.

:lol

Not only has he dodged this question like he dodges deoderant, but stinky boy proceeds to have yet another epic bitch fit. :roll:

Autism....:confusedshrug:

[Axe]

Hurrr, i love to keep quoting myself and project silly stuff about other people because i like to prove to everyone that i am a loner and literally have no friends irl, durrr...
Oof, sorry to have stricken another thin ass nerve of yours.

[Jimmy Rustler]

^Something I can't identify at all with, I mean I can't even fathom, is being that big of a bitch. :roll:

:lebroncry:

So fitting that he's a Bronie fluffer.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.westernjournal.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F01%2Flebron-sbs-lebron-for-jan.-29-2023.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=a1284f888b09353ebe3o20dace11d6ae3e8f6b7ed97978 2711d26cd6221c626b4&ipo=images

[Axe]

So lebron easily upsets the redneck jizzrag op (one who certainly acts like a blatant racist towards his fanbase) more than jordan does. So much that he's reduced him into causing these 12-year old tantrums 24/7 that nobody even finds so funny here. :confusedshrug:

Goat. :bowdown:

[Jimmy Rustler]

Post us a list of plumbers, grocery baggers, and auto mechanics from the 90s.

We'll wait.




:cry::cry:

Outed as an idiot ONCE AGAIN. :roll:

Want to know how to send an autistic idiot into a bitch fit?


https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F3ohfFwu z6ofKCRn8kM%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=42b27162316d9a6d479f0162e57cc0167678caa323fced 0c7ca28cb2bac0ccbb&ipo=images


Doesn't take much.:lol

[Axe]

https://i.ibb.co/xJ2mf7g/IMG-20230505-103422.jpg
And redneck jizzrag op has the audacity to act like he's on a serious period, yet again. :oldlol:

Here, maybe have some of this little fella. :lol

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTNw9OzLERZnU_XfTnvn9zkh25r7pEB ZcAWA&usqp=CAU

[Jimmy Rustler]

:cry::cry:

I've done it again. I've sent the autistic idiot into a bitch fit. Very emotionally fragile - just like his hero LeShrivel.

:lebroncry:

[ArbitraryWater]

Devolution for sure.

We're living in a down spiral, people just haven't discovered it yet, because a few people like Elon Musk makes cool shit.

Go look at Detroit, Chicago and San Francisco. Those cities will turn into Johannesburg in a few months once the money runs out.

What does that have to do with the biology of the human species / athleticism / repetition

[Axe]

What does that have to do with the biology of the human species / athleticism / repetition
Probably how things have changed these past few years. (https://i.ibb.co/g4tnXnv/IMG-20230626-052542.jpg)

[WhiteKyrie]

Good shooting. Lots of possessions. No defense. There’s your answer.

[Jimmy Rustler]

Good shooting. Lots of possessions. No defense. There’s your answer.

Agree. And out of those three, I think the no defense one is the biggest factor.