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Baller234
09-07-2023, 09:56 AM
The origin of this phrase can be traced back to ancient times. It is an idiom that means not to blame the person who is delivering a message, even if the message is unpleasant or unwelcome.

Most left wing extremists today are guilty of blaming the messenger. In fact it's what drives most left wing tribalism. Whereas right wing tribalism is typically driven by hatred of left wing policy, left wing tribalism is driven by hatred of right wing people.

Look no further than someone like Matt Walsh, a guy who's utterly reviled on this forum by some of the left wing posters. They presume that Walsh is a bad guy and a bigot, therefore no matter what position he takes they aren't allowed to agree. Conceding that Walsh might be right about something would be the same as siding with the Nazis during WW2. Even hardcore right wingers subscribe to the broken clock theory once in awhile, but hardcore left wingers aren't allowed to concede ground no matter the subject at hand. If someone like Matt Walsh said that water was wet, woke lefties would look for a reason to disagree purely out of obligation. Can't be caught agreeing with a nazi after all.

Look at what's happening with all the migrants. Republicans said for years that this was a major problem but left wing tribalists paid it no mind and chalked it up to racism and fear mongering. It's a made up issue they said. Orange Man Bad. Fast forward to current day and now we're hearing the exact same rhetoric from mayors and governors on their own side. Now all of a sudden it's okay to raise the issue without being called a racist.

Because lefties are more concerned with who's delivering the message than the message itself.

Off the Court
09-07-2023, 10:13 AM
Every morning of every day you (Chewing) creates thread after thread whining and complaining about liberals. Just like this thread. But you want us to believe liberals are fixated on right wing people.

Once again the irony is lost on you. Enjoy the rest of your day thinking about liberals.

Baller234
09-07-2023, 10:24 AM
Every morning of every day you (Chewing) creates thread after thread whining and complaining about liberals. Just like this thread. But you want us to believe liberals are fixated on right wing people.

Once again the irony is lost on you. Enjoy the rest of your day thinking about liberals.

Detected in this post:

- Bitterness
- Resentment
- False accusations

Not detected in this post:

- Facts
- Logic
- Rebuttals


I guess the truth is a tough pill to swallow.

Patrick Chewing
09-07-2023, 10:39 AM
Every morning of every day you (Chewing) creates thread after thread whining and complaining about liberals. Just like this thread. But you want us to believe liberals are fixated on right wing people.

Once again the irony is lost on you. Enjoy the rest of your day thinking about liberals.

Are you under the assumption that this is me? I make my own Liberals are literally demonic threads on my own time. I mean, could it possibly be that I might not be the only one who absolutely despises Liberals like you?? :lol

Off the Court
09-07-2023, 10:48 AM
I have to say, that last post of his listing out things and using bold text is unChewinglike. Maybe that isn't you.

It's just that I didn't think there could possibly be another poster who could rival you in the amount of liberals dancing around rent free in your head.

Baller234
09-07-2023, 10:57 AM
I have to say, that last post of his listing out things and using bold text is unChewinglike. Maybe that isn't you.

It's just that I didn't think there could possibly be another poster who could rival you in the amount of liberals dancing around rent free in your head.

We're trying to help you by showing you the error of your ways and by confronting you with the truth.

The country (and the world) would be a much better place if you guys all took your head out of your ass.

Off the Court
09-07-2023, 11:57 AM
We're trying to help you by showing you the error of your ways and by confronting you with the truth.

The country (and the world) would be a much better place if you guys all took your head out of your ass.

I'm happy that you and Chewing have each other for echo chamber support in this. It's a fitting marriage that could last deep into old age with you both muttering "those darn liberals" on your rocking chairs.

Baller234
09-07-2023, 12:13 PM
I'm happy that you and Chewing have each other for echo chamber support in this. It's a fitting marriage that could last deep into old age with you both muttering "those darn liberals" on your rocking chairs.

Detected in this post:

- Bitterness
- Resentment
- Passive aggressiveness

Not detected in this post:

- Facts
- Rebuttals
- Self reflection


As the OP states, you are driven purely by emotional hatred. You continue to prove it each time you post.

Men swallow their pride and admit when they're wrong. Children pout and cry.

iamgine
09-07-2023, 12:24 PM
I saw both sides blame the messenger.

Off the Court
09-07-2023, 12:25 PM
Detected in this post:

- Bitterness
- Resentment
- Passive aggressiveness

Not detected in this post:

- Facts
- Rebuttals
- Self reflection


As the OP states, you are driven purely by emotional hatred. You continue to prove it each time you post.

Men swallow their pride and admit when they're wrong. Children pout and cry.

You're right. It's totally me making all these bitter threads, and not you :oldlol:

RRR3
09-07-2023, 12:35 PM
The origin of this phrase can be traced back to ancient times. It is an idiom that means not to blame the person who is delivering a message, even if the message is unpleasant or unwelcome.

Most left wing extremists today are guilty of blaming the messenger. In fact it's what drives most left wing tribalism. Whereas right wing tribalism is typically driven by hatred of left wing policy, left wing tribalism is driven by hatred of right wing people.

Look no further than someone like Matt Walsh, a guy who's utterly reviled on this forum by some of the left wing posters. They presume that Walsh is a bad guy and a bigot, therefore no matter what position he takes they aren't allowed to agree. Conceding that Walsh might be right about something would be the same as siding with the Nazis during WW2. Even hardcore right wingers subscribe to the broken clock theory once in awhile, but hardcore left wingers aren't allowed to concede ground no matter the subject at hand. If someone like Matt Walsh said that water was wet, woke lefties would look for a reason to disagree purely out of obligation. Can't be caught agreeing with a nazi after all.

Look at what's happening with all the migrants. Republicans said for years that this was a major problem but left wing tribalists paid it no mind and chalked it up to racism and fear mongering. It's a made up issue they said. Orange Man Bad. Fast forward to current day and now we're hearing the exact same rhetoric from mayors and governors on their own side. Now all of a sudden it's okay to raise the issue without being called a racist.

Because lefties are more concerned with who's delivering the message than the message itself.
Are we pretending there isn't good evidence Matt Walsh is a bad guy? He hangs out with literal Nazis: https://twitter.com/AriDrennen/status/1684572198814781441?s=20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdZnyhLedsM He also seems weirdly in favor of sex with underage women for a guy supposedly concerned about pedophilia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9NApuQ8ekE

He also is in favor of killing people for selling drugs and severely beating even petty vandals and thieves. Don't believe me? His own words: https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1617611007949668353?lang=en




So yeah he's a bad guy, even if you want to claim he's right about this. You were better off admitting he's a bad guy to start with, denying it just makes you look bad.

Baller234
09-07-2023, 12:38 PM
You're right. It's totally me making all these bitter threads, and not you :oldlol:

What bitterness? My posts are laced with facts, your posts are laced with feelings and emotions. That's why you can't refute any of the arguments made in the OP. That's why you're acting all pissy.

You are now multiple posts deep in this thread and all you've done is pout and cry. If you don't care, why do you keep replying? Is somebody forcing a gun to your head?

Baller234
09-07-2023, 12:40 PM
Are we pretending there isn't good evidence Matt Walsh is a bad guy? He hangs out with literal Nazis: https://twitter.com/AriDrennen/status/1684572198814781441?s=20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdZnyhLedsM He also seems weirdly in favor of sex with underage women for a guy supposedly concerned about pedophilia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9NApuQ8ekE

He also is in favor of killing people for selling drugs and severely beating even petty vandals and thieves. Don't believe me? His own words: https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1617611007949668353?lang=en




So yeah he's a bad guy, even if you want to claim he's right about this. You were better off admitting he's a bad guy to start with, denying it just makes you look bad.

You are free to hate Matt Walsh, that is your right.

But that doesn't mean that a man can become a woman.

RRR3
09-07-2023, 12:45 PM
You are free to hate Matt Walsh, that is your right.

But that doesn't mean that a man can become a woman.
Are you going to address what was posted? Can you at least admit Matt Walsh is a bad guy? If you can't, your claim to be a morality judge is really lacking.

Patrick Chewing
09-07-2023, 12:46 PM
I'm happy that you and Chewing have each other for echo chamber support in this. It's a fitting marriage that could last deep into old age with you both muttering "those darn liberals" on your rocking chairs.

I'm not involved in this thread. Why do you keep bringing me in into your entanglements with other posters?? Now, while I agree with everything Baller is saying about you and I commend him for speaking out against you, I am in no way involved in this, so please refrain from bringing my name up. Thank you.

Baller234
09-07-2023, 01:03 PM
Are you going to address what was posted? Can you at least admit Matt Walsh is a bad guy? If you can't, your claim to be a morality judge is really lacking.

Matt Walsh is a nazi but he willingly volunteers to work for a jewish boss? Lol, okay.

Sorry but no, I don't agree with your take at all. I think you're a sad, angry person who resents Walsh because you feel obligated to. I don't agree with him on everything, namely his stance on abortion, but he is far from being a bad guy. I judge people on their actions, not their words.... or old tweets. Joe Biden was friends with a KKK leader and is seen holding his hand in pictures, yet somehow a vote for Joe Biden was seen as a vote against racism.

For example I never accused you of being an evil person, because deep down I know you don't believe half of what you're saying. I know you love money and capitalism just like every other american. I know that you're aware of the differences beteween men and women just like everyone else. I've only ever accused you of being a liar and a phony.

That would make you dumb and ignorant, but not evil. You guys can be redeemed if you were mature enough to accept the truth about yourselves. Which is that YOU guys are the hateful ones.

RRR3
09-07-2023, 01:13 PM
Matt Walsh is a nazi but he willingly volunteers to work for a jewish boss? Lol, okay.

Sorry but no, I don't agree with your take at all. I think you're a sad, angry person who resents Walsh because you feel obligated to. I don't agree with him on everything, namely his stance on abortion, but he is far from being a bad guy. I judge people on their actions, not their words.... or old tweets. Joe Biden was friends with a KKK leader and is seen holding his hand in pictures, yet somehow a vote for Joe Biden was seen as a vote against racism.

For example I never accused you of being an evil person, because deep down I know you don't believe half of what you're saying. I know you love money and capitalism just like every other american. I know that you're aware of the differences beteween men and women just like everyone else. I've only ever accused you of being a liar and a phony.

That would make you dumb and ignorant, but not evil. You guys can be redeemed if you were mature enough to accept the truth about yourselves. Which is that YOU guys are the hateful ones.
Well Joe Biden IS a racist. He was besties with Storm Thurmond ffs. So not really a good example. I didn’t say Matt Walsh was a nazi I said he’s hanging out with Nazis. There is video proof of that. Are you going to argue with the footage? :lol. Old tweets? That pro Singapore tweet was recent :wtf:

I can admit Biden, supposedly the guy on “my side”, is a bad guy. Why can’t you do the same with Walsh? Supposedly you’re less dogmatic than me right?

Patrick Chewing
09-07-2023, 01:17 PM
Well Joe Biden IS a racist. He was besties with Storm Thurmond ffs. So not really a good example. I didn’t say Matt Walsh was a nazi I said he’s hanging out with Nazis. There is video proof of that. Are you going to argue with the footage? :lol. Old tweets? That pro Singapore tweet was recent :wtf:

I can admit Biden, supposedly the guy on “my side”, is a bad guy. Why can’t you do the same with Walsh? Supposedly you’re less dogmatic than me right?

Is Joe Biden a Nazi though? I mean, would you classify him as a Nazi? That's all we want to know.

RRR3
09-07-2023, 01:23 PM
Is Joe Biden a Nazi though? I mean, would you classify him as a Nazi? That's all we want to know.
No the only politician I suspect of potentially being a Nazi is DeSantis. And I can be sure of that. Good news that means your hero Trump isn’t a Nazi in my book!

Off the Court
09-07-2023, 01:28 PM
I'm not involved in this thread.

You're involved in every thread here.

This could be a thread about breakfast meals, and before I open it I already know you'd be in here explaining how liberals and gays ruined breakfast and made your life awful.

RRR3
09-07-2023, 01:31 PM
You're involved in every thread here.

This could be a thread about breakfast meals, and before I open it I already know you'd be in here explaining how liberals and gays ruined breakfast and made your life awful.
I doubt it, food is one thing he's definitively positive about.

Patrick Chewing
09-07-2023, 01:38 PM
You're involved in every thread here.

This could be a thread about breakfast meals, and before I open it I already know you'd be in here explaining how liberals and gays ruined breakfast and made your life awful.

I am not like RRR3 that posts in every thread with his 50,000 posts. And yes, Liberals are awful. And this is a political forum and myself and others will discuss about how awful Liberals are. I know you don't like because you are one of these awful Liberals, but you're more than welcome to post elsewhere.

Off the Court
09-07-2023, 01:38 PM
I doubt it, food is one thing he's definitively positive about.

:roll:

Off the Court
09-07-2023, 01:41 PM
I can only imagine the intense war that would take place inside of Chewing's head if he were served rainbow pancakes.

RRR3
09-07-2023, 02:05 PM
I can only imagine the intense war that would take place inside of Chewing's head if he were served rainbow pancakes.
:roll:

Baller234
09-08-2023, 11:16 AM
Well Joe Biden IS a racist. He was besties with Storm Thurmond ffs. So not really a good example. I didn’t say Matt Walsh was a nazi I said he’s hanging out with Nazis. There is video proof of that. Are you going to argue with the footage? :lol. Old tweets? That pro Singapore tweet was recent :wtf:

I can admit Biden, supposedly the guy on “my side”, is a bad guy. Why can’t you do the same with Walsh? Supposedly you’re less dogmatic than me right?

It has nothing to do with being dogmatic, it has to do with not being retarded.

Should we presume that the Obamas were predatory rapists because they were good friends with Harvey Weinstein? What about them being friends with Jay-Z? He sold crack to pregnant women. Tell us, how strictly are you prepared to enforce this standard? Bernie Sanders who I'm sure is one of your heroes endorsed Cardi B, someone who drugged men and robbed them.

Tell me how Walsh is such a bad guy again?