I blame Steve Kerr, Adam Silver, and Grant Hill for this.

[Mask the Embiid]

Steve Kerr for being worthless without Curry

Adam Silver for banning defense in the NBA. So this new generation doesn’t know how to play vs actual defense

Grant Hill for putting this roster together.


Welp, nfl time

[Xiao Yao You]

Steve Kerr for being worthless without Curry

Adam Silver for banning defense in the NBA. So this new generation doesn’t know how to play vs actual defense

Grant Hill for putting this roster together.


Welp, nfl time

Maybe this is this best Grant Hill could get? We don't know who turned him down

[Kblaze8855]

Kerr and Hill were both active players when usa started losing and Silver was still one of sterns sidekicks.

They won in 2000 by a single missed three that would have eliminated them at the buzzer with 7 hall of famers and 5 all stars. They lost and finished 6th in 2002 with 9 all stars and 3 hall of famers, they lost in 04 with 9 all stars and 5 hall of famers, lost in 06 with 10 all stars and 6 hall of famers. They took prime Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Dwight, Melo, Paul, and so on and had a close 4th quarter win vs Spain.

The talent advantage is simply not as big as the names make people think especially when it’s bottle necked by only having one ball and 5 people to play at a time.

One team of even borderline nba/euroleague level guys playing together can and have taken out whole squads of superstars.

It’s just the new reality. None of these people are as different on the same floor at the same time as has always been suggested.

A role player can pick apart a team of superstars but our favorite phrase is “And it’s not even close” even when comparing superstars.

Brian Scalabrine was definitely right when he said he’s closer to Lebron than normal players are to him. 6-8 good players who are just borderline nba can compete with any group of players you can assemble once.

[Im Still Ballin]

Kerr and Hill were both active players when usa started losing and Silver was still one of sterns sidekicks.

They won in 2000 by a single missed three that would have eliminated them at the buzzer with 7 hall of famers and 5 all stars. They lost and finished 6th in 2002 with 9 all stars and 3 hall of famers, they lost in 04 with 9 all stars and 5 hall of famers, lost in 06 with 10 all stars and 6 hall of famers. They took prime Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Dwight, Melo, Paul, and so on and had a close 4th quarter win vs Spain.

The talent advantage is simply not as big as the names make people think especially when it’s bottle necked by only having one ball and 5 people to play at a time.

One team of even borderline nba/euroleague level guys playing together can and have taken out whole squads of superstars.

It’s just the new reality. None of these people are as different on the same floor at the same time as has always been suggested.

A role player can pick apart a team of superstars but our favorite phrase is “And it’s not even close” even when comparing superstars.

Brian Scalabrine was definitely right when he said he’s closer to Lebron than normal players are to him. 6-8 good players who are just borderline nba can compete with any group of players you can assemble once.

:applause:

[Im Still Ballin]

They could have used a strong traditional center. Like a big-bodied bruising rim protector. But I guess the young guy from Utah wasn't good enough to get minutes.

[Nb1]

I said it from the beginning, they looked so underwhelming, looked like a bunch of G-leaguers out there and they can't deal with physicality since the NBA became so soft.

[Xiao Yao You]

They could have used a strong traditional center. Like a big-bodied bruising rim protector. But I guess the young guy from Utah wasn't good enough to get minutes.

Kessler played good when he got the chance. Kerr probably doesn't know what to do with him

[90sgoat]

The US doesn't need more talent, it just needs to actually buy into a sophisticated team first coaching paradigm.

They need to bother to learn and play team defense and they need to learn to play a motion offense like Pop.

Maybe that does mean bringing different types of players? I thought this team was decently put together. If they had Curry instead of Haliburton and AD instead of Kessler, then for sure they look much better. They could also just have brought one of the Lopez brothers.

Overall this roster was an improvement in terms of playstyle and chemistry imo, but you need better and bigger centers.

[Hoopexpert]

Maybe this is this best Grant Hill could get? We don't know who turned him down

Everybody turned it down. They could only get these young guys. Just the way it is now ever since Coach K and Jerry Colangelo stepped back.

[Xiao Yao You]

Everybody turned it down. They could only get these young guys. Just the way it is now ever since Coach K and Jerry Colangelo stepped back.

not any different than its been. You must've forgot about the team they sent to the last World Championships led by Kemba and Mitchell :roll:

[Druckenmiller]

When is it the players fault for being softer than a four year old girl?

How do go out there and get destroyed on the boards by a bunch of white guys? It’s hilarious because it’s a reflection on what American basketball has become.

Spoiled, entitled malcontents who are perpetually unhappy.

If you took all the foreign born players and the American born guys over age 32 out of the NBA it would be as unwatchable as the WNBA.

AAU, transfer portal basketball is producing a generation of junk.

[Xiao Yao You]

When is it the players fault for being softer than a four year old girl?

How do go out there and get destroyed on the boards by a bunch of white guys? It’s hilarious because it’s a reflection on what American basketball has become.

Spoiled, entitled malcontents who are perpetually unhappy.

If you took all the foreign born players and the American born guys over age 32 out of the NBA it would be as unwatchable as the WNBA.

AAU, transfer portal basketball is producing a generation of junk.

they were out rebounded by 2. D was their problem which makes sense. The NBA has mostly eliminated D. The transfer portal and NIL should help if anything. Staying in college longer should benefit everyone

[Phoenix]

The US can't send anything less than their A-team, but as Kblaze pointed out starting with the 2000 Dream Team the U.S have lost a bunch of times sending over big names. The world has simply caught up.

The last crop of great American players are well in their 30s now. Lebron, Steph, KD, Kahwi, Dame, etc.

[FultzNationRISE]

When is it the players fault for being softer than a four year old girl?

How do go out there and get destroyed on the boards by a bunch of white guys? It’s hilarious because it’s a reflection on what American basketball has become.

Spoiled, entitled malcontents who are perpetually unhappy.

If you took all the foreign born players and the American born guys over age 32 out of the NBA it would be as unwatchable as the WNBA.

AAU, transfer portal basketball is producing a generation of junk.


The pendulum will likely swing back the other way gradually.

We got to this point because flashy high flying showmanship and bravado was relatively novel at one time, and it received positive responses in viewership. So things shifted in that direction.

Now the game is so saturated with it, the absence of teamwork and grit is glaring. People will gradually start appreciating those things more and the direction will move back that way. Altho casuals probably didnt favor seeing the Nuggets and Heat in last years finals, I think a lot of real basketball fans appreciated the level of effort and execution those teams put forth, and more franchises will start to mimic that model and over time it will return to being closer to the norm.

[paksat]

The NBA is simply overrated

[WhiteKyrie]

It’s a number of different factors, that other people have touched on in here.

We didn’t send close to our A or even B list roster. This was C to D rate in terms of overall talent, tbh. Anthony Edwards was by far the best player, but when Austin Reaves, a guy who is 25 and just started getting significant playing time to end this past season, looks like the second or third best player on the roster, you’re gonna have problems.

The NBA game is far less physical now then the international competition, which has a smaller court and more condensed spacing, so physicality plays an even more important part. Anthony Edwards played football, so he’s really tough and can handle it, that’s why he was so easily able to dish out points as a combo sized guard.

We have absolutely no true big man. Jaren, Jackson, Jr. perpetually gets in foul trouble, but even he isn’t like a traditional banger. The center / power forward position is all but extinct. That’s why I said even though yes the foreign talent pool has gotten much more competitive, the gap should still be noticeable. Our 90s international teams have the perfect blend of size, skills, athleticism, perimeter, play, and interior play. Nobody wants to bang down low.

The game has become way to homogenized. Everybody plays the same way, nobody wants to play down low. Everybody wants to handle the ball and be a guard in a wing. Brandon Ingram was basically pointless on this team because he couldn’t play how we does for the Pelicans. Couldn’t remotely adapt. This also comes from the AAU style of play. We are the best players just come up with the ball in their hands 24-7. They don’t know how to play without it, and they don’t know how to blend their talents and with other talented people.

Besides rebounding and shot blocking and size or physicality being nonexistent. This wasn’t a very good defensive team. All these other international teams grow up playing together for that generation, and they develop massive amounts of chemistry. America throws their teams together at the last minute with overall better talent, top to bottom typically, but they end up, just playing, isolation, heavy, or pick and roll without a lot of ball movement.

Previous dominant team USA clubs had smothering defense. If you can’t run a high-quality office because you don’t have much chemistry together or time together, you can dominate people by not allowing them to get in their sets. Making them turned the ball over for easy transition points. That’s how you rack up huge margins of victory that the 1992, 1996, 2000 (apart from gold medal game), 2003, 2007, 2008 (apart from gold medal game), 2012 (apart from gold medal game), 2010, 2014, and 2016 (apart from a few games) all experienced.

The increase in talent worldwide becomes more apparent in the later rounds when the game becomes more important and the pressure mounds, and it’s ultimately a single game illumination. Germany barely beat USA today, they didn’t play a great game, in the best of seven series, America is beating them. Anything can happen in a single game elimination, and obviously the Americans, particularly since they started bringing pros over, always have a target on their back. Unless they have some insane intimidation factor like they have had in 1992, 1996, 2008, and 2012.

The 2008 gold medal game was closer than it should’ve been because the referees deliberately put ours pressure pact perimeter defense in jeopardy by putting Kobe Bryant and LeBron James in foul trouble early. That’s why Dwyane Wade with Daron Williams had to carry the team until later in the game.

We also didn’t have a great point guard play. Brunson was very disappointing. We didn’t have a table setter, and people that like to move the ball. We have a lot of ball stoppers. All the great American teams had some form of a traditional point guard or past first guy, or a guy with the ability to create for others, and was a willing passer. Even though Austin Reaves was a traffic cone on defense, we would’ve benefited with him being a starting guard on the team.

That poor point guard play translated to very slow starts, because the quarterback of the team didn’t have them running fluidly and crisp right out of the gates. There was no Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Gary Payton, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, Scottie Pippen, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, Chauncey Billups, LeBron James, Stephen Curry or even Kyrie Irving, Kyle Lowry, James Harden in this group.

A guy like LaMelo Ball would be fantastic on this team.

And yes the Gen Z American players are kind of embarassing. Many issues with them.

[Im Still Ballin]

It’s a number of different factors, that other people have touched on in here.

We didn’t send close to our A or even B list roster. This was C to D rate in terms of overall talent, tbh. Anthony Edwards was by far the best player, but when Austin Reaves, a guy who is 25 and just started getting significant playing time to end this past season, looks like the second or third best player on the roster, you’re gonna have problems.

The NBA game is far less physical now then the international competition, which has a smaller court and more condensed spacing, so physicality plays an even more important part. Anthony Edwards played football, so he’s really tough and can handle it, that’s why he was so easily able to dish out points as a combo sized guard.

We have absolutely no true big man. Jaren, Jackson, Jr. perpetually gets in foul trouble, but even he isn’t like a traditional banger. The center / power forward position is all but extinct. That’s why I said even though yes the foreign talent pool has gotten much more competitive, the gap should still be noticeable. Our 90s international teams have the perfect blend of size, skills, athleticism, perimeter, play, and interior play. Nobody wants to bang down low.

The game has become way to homogenized. Everybody plays the same way, nobody wants to play down low. Everybody wants to handle the ball and be a guard in a wing. Brandon Ingram was basically pointless on this team because he couldn’t play how we does for the Pelicans. Couldn’t remotely adapt. This also comes from the AAU style of play. We are the best players just come up with the ball in their hands 24-7. They don’t know how to play without it, and they don’t know how to blend their talents and with other talented people.

Besides rebounding and shot blocking and size or physicality being nonexistent. This wasn’t a very good defensive team. All these other international teams grow up playing together for that generation, and they develop massive amounts of chemistry. America throws their teams together at the last minute with overall better talent, top to bottom typically, but they end up, just playing, isolation, heavy, or pick and roll without a lot of ball movement.

Previous dominant team USA clubs had smothering defense. If you can’t run a high-quality office because you don’t have much chemistry together or time together, you can dominate people by not allowing them to get in their sets. Making them turned the ball over for easy transition points. That’s how you rack up huge margins of victory that the 1992, 1996, 2000 (apart from gold medal game), 2003, 2007, 2008 (apart from gold medal game), 2012 (apart from gold medal game), 2010, 2014, and 2016 (apart from a few games) all experienced.

The increase in talent worldwide becomes more apparent in the later rounds when the game becomes more important and the pressure mounds, and it’s ultimately a single game illumination. Germany barely beat USA today, they didn’t play a great game, in the best of seven series, America is beating them. Anything can happen in a single game elimination, and obviously the Americans, particularly since they started bringing pros over, always have a target on their back. Unless they have some insane intimidation factor like they have had in 1992, 1996, 2008, and 2012.

The 2008 gold medal game was closer than it should’ve been because the referees deliberately put ours pressure pact perimeter defense in jeopardy by putting Kobe Bryant and LeBron James in foul trouble early. That’s why Dwyane Wade with Daron Williams had to carry the team until later in the game.

We also didn’t have a great point guard play. Brunson was very disappointing. We didn’t have a table setter, and people that like to move the ball. We have a lot of ball stoppers. All the great American teams had some form of a traditional point guard or past first guy, or a guy with the ability to create for others, and was a willing passer. Even though Austin Reaves was a traffic cone on defense, we would’ve benefited with him being a starting guard on the team.

That poor point guard play translated to very slow starts, because the quarterback of the team didn’t have them running fluidly and crisp right out of the gates. There was no Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Gary Payton, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, Scottie Pippen, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, Chauncey Billups, LeBron James, Stephen Curry or even Kyrie Irving, Kyle Lowry, James Harden in this group.

A guy like LaMelo Ball would be fantastic on this team.

And yes the Gen Z American players are kind of embarassing. Many issues with them.

Fantastic post. Agreed on all fronts. The homogeneity of the NBA game is negatively influencing the USA's international play. This is funny because that was the issue back in the early to mid-'00s. Except it was about a lack of skills like shooting.

Bang on about Anthony Edwards as well. He's the only guy who reminds me of the 2008 team's abundance of perimeter power slashers. Guys like LeBron, Kobe, Wade; even Carmelo brings more physicality and "oomph" than these soft guards and wings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeIp-HGXb0U&ab_channel=TunisieBasket

[WhiteKyrie]

Fantastic post. Agreed on all fronts. The homogeneity of the NBA game is negatively influencing the USA's international play. This is funny because that was the issue back in the early to mid-'00s. Except it was about a lack of skills like shooting.

Bang on about Anthony Edwards as well. He's the only guy who reminds me of the 2008 team's abundance of perimeter power slashers. Guys like LeBron, Kobe, Wade; even Carmelo brings more physicality and "oomph" than these soft guards and wings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeIp-HGXb0U&ab_channel=TunisieBasket

Thank you bro, please excuse all the spelling and grammatical errors, this was a quick talk to text post while at work.

But yes. Love me some Anthony Edwards. Hell, I love Austin Reaves. Mikal Bridges showed promise too. But the talent level of these other countries is being overstated in compensation for what we are doing wrong. We still have by far superior talent and depth of that superior talent. Which is all the more reason we still shouldn’t be losing.

And that’s with acknowledging the top end best players in the sport right now aren’t even Americans for the most part. Giannis, Jokic, Luka, Embiid (if he plays for US or France) and Shai. But we have several players of an older generation who aren’t going to be playing in FIBA or the Olympics now, this late in their career, past their early 30s that are comparable or better than some of those guys. But in terms of young Americans? Mitchell, Edwards, Booker, Bam, Garland and if some dudes got their heads out of their asses cough Ja / Zion cough … we can’t rely on LeBron, Durant, Kawhi, AD, Curry, Kyrie, Butler generation anymore. New dudes have to step up.

Hopefully the MVP situation and us losing in these international competitions, shakes them out of apathy. And yes, it’s like as you were saying about the problems we had in the early to mid 2000s on the USA team, until we got guys starting to be skillful and play defense again. Which was the Kobe Bryant and Jason Kidd leader ship that took the 2006 Bronze team to blow out route of these foreign clubs once again. And yes AE was a guy with skill set but could handle and dish out physicality like the guys you mentioned.

But yes, if we sent just flat out the best American players, irregardless of their age, does anybody really think this would be a competition?

Also, I think Coach Spo should be the team for the national squad. He’s the best modern coach. Yes, he’s better than Gregg Popovich. He is the most adept at in game adjustments. He knows how to scheme.

[Kblaze8855]

I don’t know how well anyone remembers this team but they were beasts after we lost in 02:



https://youtu.be/ablxSpBcvkU?si=10Ate7wijABj7Elw


Had a similar lineup to 04 only with prime Tmac, Vince, Kidd, and Ray Allen instead of the kids they sent next summer. They blew Argentina away then all 4 of them skipped the Olympics.

[WhiteKyrie]

I don’t know how well anyone remembers this team but they were beasts after we lost in 02:



https://youtu.be/ablxSpBcvkU?si=10Ate7wijABj7Elw


Had a similar lineup to 04 only with prime Tmac, Vince, Kidd, and Ray Allen instead of the kids they sent next summer. They blew Argentina away then all 4 of them skipped the Olympics.

I do, that’s why I specifically mention them amongst the dominant teams. They whipped Argentina, who beat us the previous year. Then we lost the majority of those players for the 2004 team. And Tim Duncan was basically the most disappointing international performer I’ve ever seen, relative to their hype and needing to be the alpha. Aging Allen Iverson, who USA refused to put on the 2000 team, played brilliantly on the 2003 team, was definitely our best player.

[ILLsmak]

Kerr and Hill were both active players when usa started losing and Silver was still one of sterns sidekicks.

They won in 2000 by a single missed three that would have eliminated them at the buzzer with 7 hall of famers and 5 all stars. They lost and finished 6th in 2002 with 9 all stars and 3 hall of famers, they lost in 04 with 9 all stars and 5 hall of famers, lost in 06 with 10 all stars and 6 hall of famers. They took prime Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Dwight, Melo, Paul, and so on and had a close 4th quarter win vs Spain.

The talent advantage is simply not as big as the names make people think especially when it’s bottle necked by only having one ball and 5 people to play at a time.

One team of even borderline nba/euroleague level guys playing together can and have taken out whole squads of superstars.

It’s just the new reality. None of these people are as different on the same floor at the same time as has always been suggested.

A role player can pick apart a team of superstars but our favorite phrase is “And it’s not even close” even when comparing superstars.

Brian Scalabrine was definitely right when he said he’s closer to Lebron than normal players are to him. 6-8 good players who are just borderline nba can compete with any group of players you can assemble once.

It's not talent. It's hunger and heart. The dream NBA teams did have a huge amount of talent and the comp was in awe of them, but they had the hunger to put their nuts on the world's chin. Like I said in the other thread, take a roster of the guys who thought they were gonna be 1st rounders, went undrafted, and fell into some other country's league, let them rep US. You'll see a much different outcome.

We have no shortage of 'talent,' and unless you're just talking about NBA bench role players. Or young up and coming players. Give the roster spots to people who are gonna fight for every second they are out there and you will see us demolish the comp. Doesn't even have to be NBA. Give guys who are just on the cusp of making the NBA a chance to show they belong, get the right coach, it's cashmoney.

Bummies gon bum. If your offense is running isos and jacking midrange (remm, midrange is a bad shot in NBA?) then you are gonna get flopped. It happens.

-Smak

[3ba11]

Steve Kerr for being worthless without Curry

Adam Silver for banning defense in the NBA. So this new generation doesn’t know how to play vs actual defense

Grant Hill for putting this roster together.


Welp, nfl time


:dancin:

3ball proven right again - the high screen roll format produced a bunch of robotic skillsets, while other countries and prior eras developed superior basketball instinct from playing in a tougher format and playing a superior brand of ball (less ball-dominator)

[Im Still Ballin]

I can't believe they played JJJ at center. His rebounding is atrocious. They needed to try Kessler or bring Mitchell Robinson or Mark Williams. The 2008 team had this beast manning the center position:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkphnQJtHJY&ab_channel=JHWu

[Real Men Wear Green]

I have paid no attention due to work and other responsibilities so I'm asking for opinions: what happened to Ingram?

[90sgoat]

I'd go with the Cleveland trio next time:

Mitchell, Allen, Mobley.

[WhiteKyrie]

I can't believe they played JJJ at center. His rebounding is atrocious. They needed to try Kessler or bring Mitchell Robinson or Mark Williams. The 2008 team had this beast manning the center position:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkphnQJtHJY&ab_channel=JHWu

Agreed. As much shit as I gave you Dwight Howard, I had made another post about this following Lithuania’s loss. At least Dwight Howard played like a true big man. He was a beast on the block, was big enough and strong enough to defend tanks like Marc Gasol. Or Pau Gasol. Could jump out the gym and block your shit. And if a point guard who knew how to pass after breaking his defender down, could catch lobs on the screen and roll. We have nobody who is a huge force at the rim like that. 2012 had Tyson Chandler, inferior to prime, Dwight Howard, but at least it was something. We totally lost that presence in 2014 and 2016, but we just had way more talent elsewhere to defeat teams. And it was gone on the 2021 team, Kevin Durant was playing center. The whole reason we won the gold medal was because he was the best player on the planet and dragged us to victory.

That’s why people who say international plays better now, or more talented, on average, much like the NBA, yes it is. But that doesn’t mean it’s a better brand of basketball.

Those 90s USA teams would demolish our best now, or even our best in modern times like the 2008 or 2012 team. They had a much more rounded skill set, with people that brought strengths and attributes in different ways. Because not everything was homogenous in terms of play style from player to player. Too many people in the NBA and on our national team, don’t know how to play a role, don’t do anything specifically at a super high-level, they all want to be this versatile, jack of all trades, and then you have a team that lacks cohesion because you got a bunch of players that you stand around and ball watch because they bring nothing else to the table.

When people make fun of the late 90s Utah jazz, it’s the same thing, they played cohesively with talent and intelligence. That’s harder to defend than a team with one great player or two great players.

The reason the Stephen Curry Warrior dynasty is so strong is because they have insane talent with insane quality role-play, where everybody is a piece of the puzzle. The Tim Duncan, Manu Ginóbili, Tony Parker spurs were the same way. Those guys weren’t the most talented team of all time they were talented, but the pieces fit together to create a greater some than its parts. That’s why they were in their mid 30s and beating prime, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh. Who individually were more talented, but played an inferior brand of basketball.

As I’ve said, a number of times, that 1996 Olympic team, is the best international team ever. You drop them in this FIBA international tournament, they would wipe the floor with everyone

Shaq / David Robinson / Hakeem
Barkley / Malone
Hill / Pippen
Penny / Reggie / Mitch
GP / Stockton

And if only they had Jordan instead of Stockton and Kemp over Hakeem (he’s not really American).

Literally a perfect basketball teams. No injuries. No people well past or before their prime. Perfectly built.

[ILLsmak]

I have paid no attention due to work and other responsibilities so I'm asking for opinions: what happened to Ingram?

ill, prol dysentery or something.

-Smak

[warriorfan]

I have paid no attention due to work and other responsibilities so I'm asking for opinions: what happened to Ingram?

He shopped at Lebron23’s fish stand and got food poisoning

[WhiteKyrie]

He shopped at Lebron23’s fish stand and got food poisoning

:roll: you consistently crack me up. I’m dead.

[plowking]

The 3 point shot becoming a staple has also close the gap on things.

Easier to stay in games, easier to get back into games, and sometimes even win games despite not being the better team.

[WhiteKyrie]

The 3 point shot becoming a staple has also close the gap on things.

Easier to stay in games, easier to get back into games, and sometimes even win games despite not being the better team.

Facts. That became most apparent in 2000. When the USA’s one close game was the gold medal game against Lithuania when that little ****ing guard got hot from three. And it continues to escalate from there.

[Kblaze8855]

Facts. That became most apparent in 2000. When the USA’s one close game was the gold medal game against Lithuania when that little ****ing guard got hot from three. And it continues to escalate from there.


I liked him. Thought Don Nelson would give him a shot when he got to the Warriors but it didn’t really happen.He came within a single shot of beating team USA in back to back olympics


https://youtu.be/bMupHyjP-58?si=_tCFMVtBBGAYXyPP

[Phoenix]

The 3 point shot becoming a staple has also close the gap on things.

Easier to stay in games, easier to get back into games, and sometimes even win games despite not being the better team.

Absolutely. The old Xs and Os factors of controlling the glass, keeping turnovers low and out-assisting the opponent can be neutered if one side catches fire from three. I think it was WhiteKyrie who said it, but it has homogenized both the players and teams as a result.

[90sgoat]

I liked him. Thought Don Nelson would give him a shot when he got to the Warriors but it didn’t really happen.He came within a single shot of beating team USA in back to back olympics


https://youtu.be/bMupHyjP-58?si=_tCFMVtBBGAYXyPP

Jasikevicius was a legend in Europe.

I watched him in Barcelona.

He was a bit like a more physical Steve Nash imo. I could be wrong. Looked to score, but could distribute, but not a typical pass first point guard.

[beasted]

Steve Kerr is an overrated coach who has NEVER known how to use Centers and thus never recruited them to the team. Guys like Ingram were a waste of space on this team.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I didn't get to see a single game so my opinion isn't that valid but I would like to see an emphasis placed on great defensive players. If we send three great scorers and just generally great defenders everywhere we shouldn't be losing

[Xiao Yao You]

https://www.slcdunk.com/2023/9/8/23865102/fiba-world-cup-2023-steve-kerr-cost-usa-gold-by-not-playing-walker-kessler

[k0kakw0rld]

Steve Kerr for being worthless without Curry

Adam Silver for banning defense in the NBA. So this new generation doesn’t know how to play vs actual defense

Grant Hill for putting this roster together.


Welp, nfl time
Because Steph was reaching finals and winning championships without Kerr right?:facepalm

Things don’t change, your ignorance is legendary.

[ILLsmak]

The 3 point shot becoming a staple has also close the gap on things.

Easier to stay in games, easier to get back into games, and sometimes even win games despite not being the better team.

I watched v little highlights but I saw team USA take some obnoxiously bad 3s. Like in college you get pulled from the game level 3s. Those guys weren't even playing seriously. If they said you lose and you get cut from the NBA, it woulda been different.

Edit: @ not playing walker Kessler, nah having that dude on the team as the only big and even having to decide to play him or not was the problem. The fact that he is prol the one guy who could grab a board is stupid. The fact they were starting a G at PF was stupid. I think they were trying to lose. They shoulda picked up Kofi Cockburn from overseas!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S8vKdywezM they sed he was too big for the NBA. Blaaa.

Edit2: ofc dude would prol not be playing for team usa haha.

-Smak