View Full Version : NBA to vote on load management policy later this week
Hey Yo
09-11-2023, 01:49 PM
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10089061-report-nba-board-of-governors-expected-to-vote-on-new-load-management-policy
There's tweets from Shams and Woj detailing what's being voted on.
dankok8
09-11-2023, 01:54 PM
Finally...
Load management has completely devalued the regular season and screwed over fans who pay for tickets just to see stars resting.
SouBeachTalents
09-11-2023, 02:41 PM
I don’t see anyway for the league to crack down on this. The team can just bullshit and say the player(s) in question are injured, and there’d be no way for the league to know for sure.
Real Men Wear Green
09-11-2023, 02:51 PM
If the Clippers tell the NBA that Leonard and George both have injuries I don't see what they're going to do about it without the help of a leaker. Setting games played requirements for awards is a good idea though.
Im Still Ballin
09-11-2023, 02:57 PM
What the league considers a "star" player:
Under current discussions among team and league personnel, a star is defined by someone who's made an All-Star or All-NBA team in the past three seasons, sources said.
bison
09-11-2023, 03:47 PM
I don’t see anyway for the league to crack down on this. The team can just bullshit and say the player(s) in question are injured, and there’d be no way for the league to know for sure.
This. There’s nothing stopping a team from listing a star player out with ‘lower back soreness’ instead of ‘load management’.
Xiao Yao You
09-11-2023, 03:49 PM
This. There’s nothing stopping a team from listing a star player out with ‘lower back soreness’ instead of ‘load management’.
that's why they got rid of the injury list and just increased the roster size because big spenders like the Knicks were carrying more players and saying they were hurt
Kblaze8855
09-11-2023, 04:09 PM
Unless you’re going to let the NBA overrule players in teams on who is hurt and who isnt this rule will do nothing. Maybe you wont see what the spurs used to do when they would rest the whole starting lineup with injury reasons like “old” but standard load management? Nah. Can’t be stopped. I already think we are going to have stars playing just the tip off or one or two more minutes to preserve award eligibility since it’s tied to Supermax. See more things like when Jrue Holiday played 5 seconds to hit his incentive.
If someone is bitch enough they can’t be stopped.
FireDavidKahn
09-11-2023, 05:11 PM
I don’t see anyway for the league to crack down on this. The team can just bullshit and say the player(s) in question are injured, and there’d be no way for the league to know for sure.
Teams can get in HUGE shit for making up injuries. Medical records exist
L.Kizzle
09-11-2023, 05:17 PM
Unless you’re going to let the NBA overall players in teams on who is hurt and who is this rule will do nothing. Maybe you want see what the spurs used to do when they would risk the whole starting lineup with injury reasons like “old” but standard load management? Nah. Can’t be stopped. I already think we are going to have stars playing just the tip off or one or two more minutes to preserve award eligibility since it’s tied to Supermax. See more things like when Jrue Holiday played 5 seconds to hit his incentive.
If someone is bitch enough they can’t be stopped.
There stats will go down doing that, which will keep them off the All-NBA teams.
Jasper
09-11-2023, 05:33 PM
should be graded : bron (whole season)
And players rated with salaries at 30mill gets a pass
and everyone else has to play.
Oh wait that is how it is now.
How bout anyone over 35 must play every game , other wise they forfeit as many games in the playoffs
bison
09-11-2023, 05:43 PM
Teams can get in HUGE shit for making up injuries. Medical records exist
Pretty sure players are already protected by HIPAA
ShawkFactory
09-11-2023, 06:40 PM
Pretty sure players are already protected by HIPAA
There can be stipulations within a contract where this can be worked around.
Kblaze8855
09-11-2023, 06:48 PM
Teams can get in HUGE shit for making up injuries. Medical records exist
how do you disprove a tight hamstring or a headache? Nausea? People have had significant real injuries not show up in tests till it was too late. The union is always going to make you lean towards taking the players word.
Real Men Wear Green
09-11-2023, 07:21 PM
Unless you’re going to let the NBA overrule players in teams on who is hurt and who is this rule will do nothing. Maybe you want see what the spurs used to do when they would risk the whole starting lineup with injury reasons like “old” but standard load management? Nah. Can’t be stopped. I already think we are going to have stars playing just the tip off or one or two more minutes to preserve award eligibility since it’s tied to Supermax. See more things like when Jrue Holiday played 5 seconds to hit his incentive.
If someone is bitch enough they can’t be stopped.
I agree that load management will survive this rule but tossing players out for a few minutes to hit the games played award minimum would damage their averages. If a guy is trying to be AllNBA and his argument is that he is averaging 28/10/7 a hypothetical game where he does 1/2/1 is a bad thing. Can't have too many games like that and some voters will hold it against a player that does games like that to barely hit the 65 game threshold. I don't think we're going to see many guys have games where they play a few minutes to try and hit the award minimum, for the main part guys will play real minutes if they are out there to make themselves award eligible. Just we will still have load management because there are cases like Kawhi Leonard where the player can't handle much play and also a number of players that have made a ton of money and know they are going to the hall of fame so they only care about playoff games nor awards and super max eligibility.
Kblaze8855
09-11-2023, 08:01 PM
That isn’t really an issue with the obvious all NBA players who would only be denied a spot due to games played. Luca for example, has played 66 and 65 games the last two years. If that’s what we can usually expect from him bet your ass if he’s not feeling great toward the end of the season, he’s going to check in for a couple minutes then leave. You can’t leave the eligibility for an extra 30 or $40 million on the table. The team wouldn’t even argue.
Embiid has only played more than 66 games once in his career. Maybe he would have without the shortened season, but I don’t know. He wouldn’t be eligible for any of the awards which gives him a super max in 5 seasons.
Steph would only have 1 of the last 4.
He’s not gonna be dropped by many voters by losing a third of a point off his ppg because he played some partial games is he?
If people are close I just don’t see leaving that money on the table.
Real Men Wear Green
09-11-2023, 08:19 PM
That 65 game limit is going to be something voters think about. If a guy barely hits the 65 with 5 games where he's pulling 2/2 stat lines his regular season numbers are going to have to be overwhelming for a lot of voters not to instead go with a guy whose numbers are almost as good but steps on the court for 75+. Some voters will look at those joke performances and give the player less credit. And those fractions of a point matter. Second and third scorers were separated by 0.2 ppg. 4th and 5th were separated by 0.3. There are 4 gaps of 0.3 points or less among players in the top 10. If you think about it logically a .3 ppg difference doesn't matter but it still sounds more impressive to be 2nd in scoring than it does to be 3rd and being higher upon that kind of list will effect voting. And for lower volume stats it becomes more important, things like rebounds and assists. Steals and blocks are rare enough to make them thought of less of a guy is averaging 3 blocks normally but has to throw in 5 0 block evenings it could knock him back to two.
Won't matter for Kevin Durant but for some guy like Mikal Bridges it could be a consideration.
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